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	<title>Comments on: Libby Trial:  No Love For Imus</title>
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		<title>By: mahopac maze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/08/libby-trial-no-love-for-imus/#comment-498304</link>
		<dc:creator>mahopac maze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At this poiint, I’m thinkin’ that Team Libby ought to abandon the dubious “Memory” defense and go with something more tried-and-true: a “Substance Abuse Excuse,” specifically, hallucinogen abuse.  Any hallucinogen will do, but I’d favor peyote for its mystical and somewhat exotic characteristics, and the possibility of a French pronunciation.  Think about it — this would explain why the once very professional Libby was described as noticeably “agitated” and “excited” by multiple observers (especially Miller and Russert), why he staged the unusual meeting with Fleischer, why he was &lt;em&gt;convinced&lt;/em&gt; of multiple irreconcileable facts (e.g. that he didn’t know about Plame’s status &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; that he knew it was classified), why he concocted such a bald lie about the Russert phone call (it wasn’t a lie, he was truthfully describing a &lt;em&gt;hallucination&lt;/em&gt;!), and it would neatly explain the “Aspen’s Letter” as simply a piece of psychedelia.  And who knows — it might even be true!&lt;br /&gt;
(BTW, &lt;b&gt;fantastic&lt;/b&gt; job FDL crew.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this poiint, I’m thinkin’ that Team Libby ought to abandon the dubious “Memory” defense and go with something more tried-and-true: a “Substance Abuse Excuse,” specifically, hallucinogen abuse.  Any hallucinogen will do, but I’d favor peyote for its mystical and somewhat exotic characteristics, and the possibility of a French pronunciation.  Think about it — this would explain why the once very professional Libby was described as noticeably “agitated” and “excited” by multiple observers (especially Miller and Russert), why he staged the unusual meeting with Fleischer, why he was <em>convinced</em> of multiple irreconcileable facts (e.g. that he didn’t know about Plame’s status <em>and</em> that he knew it was classified), why he concocted such a bald lie about the Russert phone call (it wasn’t a lie, he was truthfully describing a <em>hallucination</em>!), and it would neatly explain the “Aspen’s Letter” as simply a piece of psychedelia.  And who knows — it might even be true!<br />
(BTW, <b>fantastic</b> job FDL crew.)</p>
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		<title>By: JBK</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/08/libby-trial-no-love-for-imus/#comment-498216</link>
		<dc:creator>JBK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane — as a long time fan and now “listener” to you and FDL — I just want to say to you and Christy and TRex and Swados, et al — that you’re doing an outstanding job (I hope you get paid for this? if not, you should!) covering this trial and the various other stories and issues you have covered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am increasingly AMAZED at the professionalism you bring to this! BRAVO! I am now completely and forever hooked to the “bloggeshere” as the place to get unfiltered news and consider the mainstream news outlets to be nothing more than complete and utter shills. Unbelievable! and perhaps funny — except that we are now engaged and alone in a protracted war like no other we have ever faced as a united states of America and the sorry result is the 3,100 unsung and unthanked Americnas KIA in Iraq.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jane, please keep up the excellent work and I promise to read and contribute any way I can from here. Yours sadly and truely, JBK.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane — as a long time fan and now “listener” to you and FDL — I just want to say to you and Christy and TRex and Swados, et al — that you’re doing an outstanding job (I hope you get paid for this? if not, you should!) covering this trial and the various other stories and issues you have covered.</p>
<p>I am increasingly AMAZED at the professionalism you bring to this! BRAVO! I am now completely and forever hooked to the “bloggeshere” as the place to get unfiltered news and consider the mainstream news outlets to be nothing more than complete and utter shills. Unbelievable! and perhaps funny — except that we are now engaged and alone in a protracted war like no other we have ever faced as a united states of America and the sorry result is the 3,100 unsung and unthanked Americnas KIA in Iraq.  </p>
<p>Jane, please keep up the excellent work and I promise to read and contribute any way I can from here. Yours sadly and truely, JBK.</p>
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		<title>By: wlgriffi</title>
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		<dc:creator>wlgriffi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-497389&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;neurophius @ 69 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;raven,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was not suggesting that I would “just do what someone else tells” me to do. I don’t know Don Imus. I don’t know much about him. I don’t live in his broadcast range. Maybe I could find him on the Internet if I tried, but I haven’t had reason to do so. TRex gave me some information I did not have before–that Imus apparently is a fan of Joe Lieberman. I value the opinions of people who comment at FDL, and the information they can provide me. That includes you. Thank you for broadening my awareness about Don Imus. Thanks also to TRex for the same.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t fret over lack of knowledge of Imus. He’s another of the nutcases that thrills the airwave listeners. He exhibits the know all punditry common to todays “entertainers”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That being said. I tune in to the MSNBC coverage of his program in the morning. Usually swithing back and forth between him and C-span’s Washington Journal. Listening to whichever is of more interest. I do this because there is so little of interest on the TV that early.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-497389"><em>neurophius @ 69 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>raven,</p>
<p>I was not suggesting that I would “just do what someone else tells” me to do. I don’t know Don Imus. I don’t know much about him. I don’t live in his broadcast range. Maybe I could find him on the Internet if I tried, but I haven’t had reason to do so. TRex gave me some information I did not have before–that Imus apparently is a fan of Joe Lieberman. I value the opinions of people who comment at FDL, and the information they can provide me. That includes you. Thank you for broadening my awareness about Don Imus. Thanks also to TRex for the same.</p>
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<p>Don’t fret over lack of knowledge of Imus. He’s another of the nutcases that thrills the airwave listeners. He exhibits the know all punditry common to todays “entertainers”.</p>
<p>That being said. I tune in to the MSNBC coverage of his program in the morning. Usually swithing back and forth between him and C-span’s Washington Journal. Listening to whichever is of more interest. I do this because there is so little of interest on the TV that early.</p>
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		<title>By: victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On DEMOCRACY NOW, Isikoff opined on the potential of a Libby pardon by saying, “So, right now, you know, one would expect, if he does get convicted, the play will be, at the end of the day, for Scooter Libby to get pardoned on the President’s last day in office, in the same way that Bill Clinton pardoned a whole bunch of people under investigation in his administration on the last day in office.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any chance you could add to your excellent work on this case an analysis of the potential crimes of that “whole bunch” (exact number please) under investigation in the Clinton administration?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On DEMOCRACY NOW, Isikoff opined on the potential of a Libby pardon by saying, “So, right now, you know, one would expect, if he does get convicted, the play will be, at the end of the day, for Scooter Libby to get pardoned on the President’s last day in office, in the same way that Bill Clinton pardoned a whole bunch of people under investigation in his administration on the last day in office.”</p>
<p>Any chance you could add to your excellent work on this case an analysis of the potential crimes of that “whole bunch” (exact number please) under investigation in the Clinton administration?</p>
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		<title>By: rocksand</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocksand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FDL, Jane, Marcy, Swopa, et al,&lt;br /&gt;
Can’t thank you enough for shining light on this.  It’s been years of anguish and “weeping for our republic”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wanted to ask about how this may all play into RICO indictments:&lt;br /&gt;
Wikipedia -&lt;br /&gt;
“Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act&lt;br /&gt;
“The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly referred to as RICO Act or RICO) is a United States federal law which provides for extended penalties for criminal acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.&lt;br /&gt;
Under RICO, a person or group who commits any two of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period and, in the opinion of the US Attorney bringing the case, has committed those crimes with similar purpose or results can be charged with racketeering. Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and/or sentenced to 20 years in prison. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of “racketeering activity.” The act also contains a civil component that allows plaintiffs to sue for triple damages.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Although some of the RICO predicate acts are extortion and blackmail, one of the most successful applications of the RICO laws has been the ability to indict or sanction individuals for their behavior and actions committed against witnesses and victims in alleged retaliation or retribution for cooperating with law enforcement or intelligence agencies.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDL, Jane, Marcy, Swopa, et al,<br />
Can’t thank you enough for shining light on this.  It’s been years of anguish and “weeping for our republic”.</p>
<p>Wanted to ask about how this may all play into RICO indictments:<br />
Wikipedia -<br />
“Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act<br />
“The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly referred to as RICO Act or RICO) is a United States federal law which provides for extended penalties for criminal acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.<br />
Under RICO, a person or group who commits any two of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period and, in the opinion of the US Attorney bringing the case, has committed those crimes with similar purpose or results can be charged with racketeering. Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and/or sentenced to 20 years in prison. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of “racketeering activity.” The act also contains a civil component that allows plaintiffs to sue for triple damages.”</p>
<p>“Although some of the RICO predicate acts are extortion and blackmail, one of the most successful applications of the RICO laws has been the ability to indict or sanction individuals for their behavior and actions committed against witnesses and victims in alleged retaliation or retribution for cooperating with law enforcement or intelligence agencies.”</p>
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		<title>By: GE</title>
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		<dc:creator>GE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-497428&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;lectric lady @&lt;br /&gt;
                104              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Andrea Mitchell’s skanky ass on the stand under Well’s examination?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Priceless!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All Andrea Mitchell has to do is tell the truth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which I am guessing is along the lines of:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Well, I said it because that’s what Karl Rove told me.  I am too lousy a reporter to actually check the facts out before I report what the White House tells me. I just assumed that if Karl told me ‘everybody knew Plame was CIA’, it must be true.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;–&lt;br /&gt;
as to the “pricelessness” of a Wells examination, I can’t think of many things that are more pointless, tiresome and infuriating to listen to.  JMHO,YMMV — I guess he must be doing something right though, after all he is pulling in those big right wing bucks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-497428"><em>lectric lady @<br />
                104              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Andrea Mitchell’s skanky ass on the stand under Well’s examination?</p>
<p>Priceless!</p>
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<p>All Andrea Mitchell has to do is tell the truth.</p>
<p>Which I am guessing is along the lines of:</p>
<p>“Well, I said it because that’s what Karl Rove told me.  I am too lousy a reporter to actually check the facts out before I report what the White House tells me. I just assumed that if Karl told me ‘everybody knew Plame was CIA’, it must be true.”</p>
<p>–<br />
as to the “pricelessness” of a Wells examination, I can’t think of many things that are more pointless, tiresome and infuriating to listen to.  JMHO,YMMV — I guess he must be doing something right though, after all he is pulling in those big right wing bucks!</p>
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		<title>By: Katie Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Everyone jumps on this report by her that “everyone knew.” I was more interested in an earlier story where she said that there may have been a conspiracy to out plame that went all the went to the president of the U.S. She made this statement very early on and was the first person that I heard actually say the charge out loud.  No one is talking about that statement.  I think she knew there had been a conspiracy…because she alluded to it, early in her reporting, then she says…”everyone knew.”  Now she says “no one knew.”  I think she was trying to protect the administration and got caught.  But we may never know the answer to that one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone jumps on this report by her that “everyone knew.” I was more interested in an earlier story where she said that there may have been a conspiracy to out plame that went all the went to the president of the U.S. She made this statement very early on and was the first person that I heard actually say the charge out loud.  No one is talking about that statement.  I think she knew there had been a conspiracy…because she alluded to it, early in her reporting, then she says…”everyone knew.”  Now she says “no one knew.”  I think she was trying to protect the administration and got caught.  But we may never know the answer to that one.</p>
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		<title>By: sammy1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/08/libby-trial-no-love-for-imus/#comment-497685</link>
		<dc:creator>sammy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love you guys on politicstv.com.&lt;br /&gt;
You’ve been making a complicated story much clearer.&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love you guys on politicstv.com.<br />
You’ve been making a complicated story much clearer.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: S.O.S. in MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.O.S. in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-497606&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;stingray @ 160&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; … Either would be delicious for us Plameologists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But my swag is they will resort to a Flying Spaghetti defense instead … &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Surely you cannot mean that the Defense will litter the walls with spaghetti in the hope that something will stick…  no… can’t be that.  I’ve got it! &lt;em&gt;Hallelujah!!&lt;/em&gt;  Next week, right in court, His Supreme Pastafarianism will touch Irving Lewis “Scooter” Libby Junior with his Noodly Appendage! That kinda lawyering takes Cold Hard Cash, it does.  Yah, that’s gotta be what’ll happen.  :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;=====&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;excel @ 165&lt;/em&gt; — let’s not forget the role played by Jeff “Gannon” Guckert in all of this depraved whorishness.  If THAT story — of LITERAL whorishness —  ever comes out, the whole Administration will be toast, &lt;b&gt;stat&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-497606"><em>stingray @ 160</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p> … Either would be delicious for us Plameologists.</p></blockquote>
<p>But my swag is they will resort to a Flying Spaghetti defense instead … </p>
<p> Surely you cannot mean that the Defense will litter the walls with spaghetti in the hope that something will stick…  no… can’t be that.  I’ve got it! <em>Hallelujah!!</em>  Next week, right in court, His Supreme Pastafarianism will touch Irving Lewis “Scooter” Libby Junior with his Noodly Appendage! That kinda lawyering takes Cold Hard Cash, it does.  Yah, that’s gotta be what’ll happen.  :)</p>
<p>=====</p>
<p><em>excel @ 165</em> — let’s not forget the role played by Jeff “Gannon” Guckert in all of this depraved whorishness.  If THAT story — of LITERAL whorishness —  ever comes out, the whole Administration will be toast, <b>stat</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good question for Mrs. Greenspan if she ever appears on the stand under oath is whether her close friend Mr. Vice told her Mrs. Wilson’s status.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fineman insists on stating the prez probably didn’t know half the things Vice was doing, insinuating he wasn’t in on this chapter of the WH lies.  I’ll wager the king knew the half pertaining to outing Mrs. Wilson.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question for Mrs. Greenspan if she ever appears on the stand under oath is whether her close friend Mr. Vice told her Mrs. Wilson’s status.</p>
<p>Fineman insists on stating the prez probably didn’t know half the things Vice was doing, insinuating he wasn’t in on this chapter of the WH lies.  I’ll wager the king knew the half pertaining to outing Mrs. Wilson.</p>
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