off topic but something to give a smile

raw story head line;

GOP Rep. warns Bush if border patrol agents die in jail
‘there’s going to be some kind of impeachment talk’

lol….somehow I don’t think being head of the Executive branch translates to impeachment for every underlings screw up.

Its not like he dropped his pants told his employee service him…then proceeded to lie about it to everyone. Sexual harassment and admitted purgury….but heck he is such a handsome man…who cares

Nice rundown. I think that weird symbol stands for Democrat. Looks like a D on top of a chevron.

Kerry was just one of many vying for the nom back in July 2003.

http://wid.ap.org/documents/li…..7/GX1a.pdf

That’s Cheney’s annotated copy of the Wilson article “What I didn’t find in Africa”

These have some other record numbers 8009501 and LL002-02038.

Apparently Cheney placed it under the glass of his office desk.

This is the one where Libby was asked whether Cheney might have taken it out from there and annotated it. It would be very interesting if Cheney had it taken out and placed in the “locked vault” that only included classified documents.

BTW there’s a lot of other other material in the above worth reading/deciphering.

For example…Libby actually took notes of his meeting with Mad Mary Matalin and she gives him all sorts of advice BESIDES just going to TIM (she only uses his first name!)…and YES! She did apparently say that TIM hates Matthews!. [Exhibit 60] For example she says that the stuff Joewas saying would “fuel K Theory” and that it would help “K campaign” [the odd “K” code here is obviously Libby’s for Kerry]. Madelin then says that there is a need to “address Wilson’s motivation” and that “you need to get cable declassified”. What CABLE? And what si Libby sharing the contents of a classified cab;e with Matalin for!

Gosh! I just hope that Fitz gets this witch on the stand!

And there’s a very interesting meeting on June 9th, 2003 where the PRESIDENT HIMSELF is very upset about the Kristof article about his SOTU!

Another series of Libby notes (009501- GJ Exhibit #59) has a meeting with Libby, Cheney, Rice and Hadley on July 10th, 2003 in which they discuss declassification of documents relating to the Wilson situation

Hadley says: “ML/GT [George Tenet?] WILSON IS DECLASSIFIED. Starting to declassify NIE. [SH”
CR: “President is uncomfortable. No ? it’s better to leak NIE”
Then there is something that I struggled to decipher that the VP says would be “a mistake”.

So there seems to be a decision to LEAK the less problematic NIE, rather THAN the “Wilson declassification”. Wonder WHY????

Damiana @
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Okay, now I’m all confused.

Exhibits entered today are now up at the DOJ trial site … and they put up exhibit 403, which is Libby’s copy of Wilson’s Op-Ed, and doesn’t have any handwriting on it at all.

Swopaaaaaa, help!!!

FYI: Swopa’s transcript says 402 and not 403. So maybe Exhibit 402 is another news article that does have Cheney’s handwriting on it.

Yup, which is why I’m confused. The documents entered as evidence today have been put up on the DOJ trial website, and they include document #403, NOT document #402. 402 is probably Cheney’s copy of Wilson’s Op-Ed, complete with underlining and comments handwritten by the VP. 403 is Libby’s copy of the Op-Ed, with underlining he did but no comments. From what Swopa said, the document entered had comments written on it and Fitz showed other documents, handwritten by Cheney, to show that the comments on 402 were written by Cheney. See my confusion?

Since the defense is filing motions to admit Mitchell and Fitzgerald is opposing it, the notion that Wells does not want to call her is, uhh, unsupported.

However, I liked a different explanation for the hearsay tussle – *IF* the judge had allowed it, then the defense could have included that evidence in the inevitable motion to dismiss charges that follows the resting of the prosecution case.

Since he did not get it in with Russert, the motions will have to cite other evidence (FWIW, my current advice is that no charges will be dropped by the judge), and Wells will have to rely on Mitchell’s evidence for his closing argument.

Okay, now I’m all confused.

Exhibits entered today are now up at the DOJ trial site … and they put up exhibit 403, which is Libby’s copy of Wilson’s Op-Ed, and doesn’t have any handwriting on it at all.

Swopaaaaaa, help!!!

FYI: Swopa’s transcript says 402 and not 403. So maybe Exhibit 402 is another news article that does have Cheney’s handwriting on it.

Jeff @
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I’m going for the home run: I boldly predict that exhibit 402 is the copy of Wilson’s op-ed with Cheney’s notes on it.

If so, that’s unbelievable, if I’m following what is going on.

please elaborate

Good guess. Here’s why.

1) Several of Fitz’s other exhibits are VERSIONS of the same document (e.g. talking points made by Libby) and these are numbered sequentially.

2) The number of the mystery article falls in a series that Fitz has used for newsclippings.

3) The number of LIBBY’s VERSION of the Wilson article “What I didn’t see in Africa” is right before the “mystery article”

4) There was discussion of the Wilson article sitting under the GLASS TOP of Cheney’s desk in the Grand Jury examination of Libby yesterday. As I recall this article was annotated and underlined by Cheney. Fitz asked Libby if Cheney ever highlighted or marked articles and how long he kept them. He also asked if Cheney might review or mark such articles after the fact.

Thus Cheney DID have and mark the Wilson article.

And if this is THE ARTICLE in the “Secure” desk it appears that CHENEY had staff (or himself) placed the article in an area where it was treated as CLASSIFIED!

Seems he was trying to hide it to me! Damn those Secretaries! Where are their Rosemary Wood’s instincts!

… they put up exhibit 403, which is Libby’s copy of Wilson’s Op-Ed, and doesn’t have any handwriting on it at all.

One thing I found veeeerrrryyyy eeeeenteresting was another document submitted today–the fax that specifies that the CIA sent Wilson to Niger in response to a VP request for more information from his CIA briefer. The interesting bit is that it specifies that Wilson was clandestine. The document is declassified, of course … but when? Does this mean Joe Wilson’s status was ALSO classified, and if so, when was that declassified?

Curiouser and curiouser!

Maybe the copy of the op-ed with notes was not Libby’s, but Cheney’s.

One thing I find amazing and curious is the fantastic coincidence that it was Wilson chosen, suggested by his wife Plame, and that it was outing Plame which enabled the Bush people to shut down Middle Eastern non-proliferation of nukes investigations. Isn’t that coincidence rather far out? I mean, that’s a coincidence just begging to be investigated. I’d almost bet money that it’s the very opposite of a coincidence.

The question is how it was arranged. Cheney asks a question about Niger. Someone arranges a meeting and Plame is (just happens to be) in the meeting. She suggests her husband, former ambassador/charge Joe Wilson for the trip. [I don’t think anyone has disputed that.] Then he writes an op-ed for the Times. Who okayed that? Did it require a CIA o.k.? It’s neat, complete and oh so sweet. And yet, it seems to be exactly what the Bush admin. wanted in order to get at Plame. Amazing.

Was it normal for Plame to be in such a meeting?

Would they have picked Wilson even if she hadn’t suggested him?

Was someone at the CIA working to truly undermine Bush’s Niger uranium claim?

Did the Bush people expect or want this or did they just run with the ball after it happened?

Was it that last bit of unplanned off-handed “let’s get Wilson” attitude (with the Bush grin) which hung ‘em?

The, your last point, is also news to me. Why would they have made Wilson’s trip clandestine? That needs to be verified. But, perhaps it doesn’t matter once the trip is over. Maybe he could only have been ‘outed’ DURING his trip/junket/boondoggle/investigation.

Finally, poor Anna. Her life seems to have been tragic: success young, beautiful, rich, anything she wanted…horrible; sounds like Paris Hilton.

Exhibits entered today are now up at the DOJ trial site … and they put up exhibit 403, which is Libby’s copy of Wilson’s Op-Ed, and doesn’t have any handwriting on it at all.

Swopaaaaaa, help!!!

One thing I found veeeerrrryyyy eeeeenteresting was another document submitted today–the fax that specifies that the CIA sent Wilson to Niger in response to a VP request for more information from his CIA briefer. The interesting bit is that it specifies that Wilson was clandestine. The document is declassified, of course … but when? Does this mean Joe Wilson’s status was ALSO classified, and if so, when was that declassified?

It’s apparent that I’m some kind of newbie to this, since I don’t understand why the first dozen comments are always stupid one-word lines like “FITZ!”

It’s just an FDL tradition. “Fitz!” instead of “First here”

This happens in every thread. What the fuck is wrong with you people? It’s like you just crawl over each other’s dicks to get the first post in each new thread.

Chill out! It’s just a bit of perfectly harmless fun.