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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’d like to hear Wolfowitz testify as to who authorized him to leak NIE info.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I stil wonder why Armitage admitted to outing Plame. Does he have inoperable cancer or something?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clearly those who were part of the effort to out Plame and discredit Wilson were banking on the idea that when authorized by the Prez or VP that it was declassified and that the official process didn’t have to be exercised so long as Dubya said it was declassified (insta-declassification). That will probably have to be tested in the Supreme Court.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;9/11   asbestos   telling New Yorkers it was safe to breathe =&lt;br /&gt;
incredibly horrible&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;W truly is the worst American president since Jefferson Davis and the worst dictator since forever.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yet, the Congressional Dems know they couldn’t get him convicted in the Senate (see anti-Iraq War resolution anti-filibuster vote).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d like to hear Wolfowitz testify as to who authorized him to leak NIE info.</p>
<p>I stil wonder why Armitage admitted to outing Plame. Does he have inoperable cancer or something?</p>
<p>Clearly those who were part of the effort to out Plame and discredit Wilson were banking on the idea that when authorized by the Prez or VP that it was declassified and that the official process didn’t have to be exercised so long as Dubya said it was declassified (insta-declassification). That will probably have to be tested in the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>9/11   asbestos   telling New Yorkers it was safe to breathe =<br />
incredibly horrible</p>
<p>W truly is the worst American president since Jefferson Davis and the worst dictator since forever.</p>
<p>Yet, the Congressional Dems know they couldn’t get him convicted in the Senate (see anti-Iraq War resolution anti-filibuster vote).</p>
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		<title>By: Rat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/07/libby-live-libby-grand-jury-testimony-six/#comment-494641</link>
		<dc:creator>Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494551&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;J. Thomason @&lt;br /&gt;
                131              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;What &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:ace@97&quot;&gt;ace@97&lt;/a&gt; states makes a kind of logical sense.  Money has never had any particular compunction against exploiting the cultural and legal loopholes with respect to harm and violence.  Take the economies of tobacco, alcohol, asbestos, slavery, war, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What we have in this administration is an example of the resentment of this kind of business against the rule of law.  And the difficulty in correcting this trend and establishing precedent toward civility will be the compelling cultural investment in a war on terror and the special position war holds within the Constitution.  But maybe brick by brick the new Congress will be able to show the money trail (like the story of 12 billion dollars in stacks of $100 bills disappearing in Iraq that Bremer told yesterday, for instance).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Otherwise the corporate global establishment will continue to keep its books off shore in a strategy to evade the jurisdiction of the Courts of the United States and accountability to the rule of law.  Guantanamo is of course an effort to establish this right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The circumstances offer a profund challenge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Indeed.  And the challenge is only made worse by the fact that so many are sucked into that same lust for powe4r and greed tube — glorified by media (news, advertising, movies, etc.) and by Bush himself when, as a nation in shock his words of comfort were to “go out and shop.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When we return to the idea (at least in more measure than we have in years) that virtue and   value is in the work one does rather than the money one makes (especially the CEO’s), then I can see the US possibly getting back on track.  Until then, sad to say, I can only see the US continuing the path it has since Reagan.  We’ve claimed to bring “democracy” and “right” and “justice” to places where we previously supported despotic governments, allowed (nay, SUPPORTED) repression of the working classes and sought to discredit or kill those who opposed our efforts.  The vast majority of these “efforts” were conducted on behalf of large corporations — i.e. “follow the money.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder what would happen if we stopped subsidizing the tax breaks for the corporations and the wealthy by not paying federal taxes one year.  Hmmmm.  Yeah, I know, I’m dreaming.  (sigh)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-494551"><em>J. Thomason @<br />
                131              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>What <a href="mailto:ace@97">ace@97</a> states makes a kind of logical sense.  Money has never had any particular compunction against exploiting the cultural and legal loopholes with respect to harm and violence.  Take the economies of tobacco, alcohol, asbestos, slavery, war, etc.</p>
<p>What we have in this administration is an example of the resentment of this kind of business against the rule of law.  And the difficulty in correcting this trend and establishing precedent toward civility will be the compelling cultural investment in a war on terror and the special position war holds within the Constitution.  But maybe brick by brick the new Congress will be able to show the money trail (like the story of 12 billion dollars in stacks of $100 bills disappearing in Iraq that Bremer told yesterday, for instance).</p>
<p>Otherwise the corporate global establishment will continue to keep its books off shore in a strategy to evade the jurisdiction of the Courts of the United States and accountability to the rule of law.  Guantanamo is of course an effort to establish this right.</p>
<p>The circumstances offer a profund challenge.</p>
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<p>Indeed.  And the challenge is only made worse by the fact that so many are sucked into that same lust for powe4r and greed tube — glorified by media (news, advertising, movies, etc.) and by Bush himself when, as a nation in shock his words of comfort were to “go out and shop.”</p>
<p>When we return to the idea (at least in more measure than we have in years) that virtue and   value is in the work one does rather than the money one makes (especially the CEO’s), then I can see the US possibly getting back on track.  Until then, sad to say, I can only see the US continuing the path it has since Reagan.  We’ve claimed to bring “democracy” and “right” and “justice” to places where we previously supported despotic governments, allowed (nay, SUPPORTED) repression of the working classes and sought to discredit or kill those who opposed our efforts.  The vast majority of these “efforts” were conducted on behalf of large corporations — i.e. “follow the money.”</p>
<p>I wonder what would happen if we stopped subsidizing the tax breaks for the corporations and the wealthy by not paying federal taxes one year.  Hmmmm.  Yeah, I know, I’m dreaming.  (sigh)</p>
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		<title>By: katie jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think we’ve all known it but my gut about who people are told me from the beginning that this was an “idea” that embodies this administration and that the pres needs to go down with the crew.  It was a hatched plan by all of them and Cheney’s notes make that clear.  Fitz will get them all…damn his patience and bless his patience.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are all coming down. God I have been talking about this case for 3 years to my colleagues who are educated but just didn’t see it in the media.  They didn’t follow my investigative leads and so no one will believe me until it finally hits the news that the administration is being charged with conspiracy.  In my neck of the woods…cause I stuck my neck on that block WAY too early…vindication won’t take place until the charges for conspiracy come. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I pray…that vindication will come.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we’ve all known it but my gut about who people are told me from the beginning that this was an “idea” that embodies this administration and that the pres needs to go down with the crew.  It was a hatched plan by all of them and Cheney’s notes make that clear.  Fitz will get them all…damn his patience and bless his patience.  </p>
<p>They are all coming down. God I have been talking about this case for 3 years to my colleagues who are educated but just didn’t see it in the media.  They didn’t follow my investigative leads and so no one will believe me until it finally hits the news that the administration is being charged with conspiracy.  In my neck of the woods…cause I stuck my neck on that block WAY too early…vindication won’t take place until the charges for conspiracy come. </p>
<p>I pray…that vindication will come.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lina at 133 — Barbara Comstock?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lina at 133 — Barbara Comstock?</p>
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		<title>By: jayacoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayacoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494555&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;lina @ 133 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;  I don’t know where they (Clarice, et. al.) get their information.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FreeRepublic.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-494555"><em>lina @ 133 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>  I don’t know where they (Clarice, et. al.) get their information.</p>
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<p>FreeRepublic.com</p>
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		<title>By: karen allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cranky Observer @ 99:  Ever heard of justice?  That same argument was used re Richard Nixon.  He should have been prosecuted after leaving office.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cranky Observer @ 99:  Ever heard of justice?  That same argument was used re Richard Nixon.  He should have been prosecuted after leaving office.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494506&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ed*ard Teller @ 94&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;No doubt this qualifies as a “dumb question” to some, but I’ll ask anyway:  If the minutae of testimony in this trial clearly shows Libby to be part of a wider misinformation and coverup crime and Fitz refuses to issue indictments on that, is there a “citizen’s arrest” process on the Federal level whereby a criminal complaint can emanate from, uh, us?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes! It’s called a Congressional Investigation, from whence Impeachments come!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-494506"><em>Ed*ard Teller @ 94</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>No doubt this qualifies as a “dumb question” to some, but I’ll ask anyway:  If the minutae of testimony in this trial clearly shows Libby to be part of a wider misinformation and coverup crime and Fitz refuses to issue indictments on that, is there a “citizen’s arrest” process on the Federal level whereby a criminal complaint can emanate from, uh, us?</p>
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<p>Yes! It’s called a Congressional Investigation, from whence Impeachments come!</p>
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		<title>By: steeelthing</title>
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		<dc:creator>steeelthing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks once again FDL for a job well done. I hope your evenings at Plame House are restful you must be exhausted after a day of live blogging. Stay healthy we need to see the truth as it unfolds. Yesterday I got the chance to inform one of my employees why this nation has become a pariah in the eyes of the world. She wanted to know what pariah meant so I told her. She was shocked to think this could be so because we have ‘helped’ so many nations become free. Then I let her know in no uncertain terms what was really happening including the Libby trial. Thanks again for your outstanding coverage.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks once again FDL for a job well done. I hope your evenings at Plame House are restful you must be exhausted after a day of live blogging. Stay healthy we need to see the truth as it unfolds. Yesterday I got the chance to inform one of my employees why this nation has become a pariah in the eyes of the world. She wanted to know what pariah meant so I told her. She was shocked to think this could be so because we have ‘helped’ so many nations become free. Then I let her know in no uncertain terms what was really happening including the Libby trial. Thanks again for your outstanding coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: lina</title>
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		<dc:creator>lina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If she was outed by Ames circa ‘85 to ‘94, she could not have continued to work overseas for CIA.  I don’t know where they (Clarice, et. al.) get their information.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she was outed by Ames circa ‘85 to ‘94, she could not have continued to work overseas for CIA.  I don’t know where they (Clarice, et. al.) get their information.</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
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		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Kathleen@87&quot;&gt;Kathleen@87&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you think Wolfowitz (OSP) made the Mar 8, 2003 DIA ‘concurrence’ Memo happen?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This was the Memo that ‘confirmed’ the Feb CIA Analysis Memo that ’shape-shifted’ Wilson’s Report to SUPPORT the Uranium Claim that it actually DEBUNKED.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By getting DIA to ‘confirm’ the Feb CIA Analysis Memo, two weeks before the Invasion, Cheney had established a SECOND STREAM of Intell that (fraudulently) INDEPENDENTLY SUPPORTED the Uranium Claim to re-justify the 16-Words after the IAEA declared the original Intell for the 16-Words to be forgeries.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, Cheney leaned on the CIA for the ’shape-shifting’ Analysis Memo, and then leaned on Wolfowitz to produce the DIA ‘confirmation’ Memo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And off to War we went on the strength of the fraudulently DOCTORED and fraudulently ‘CONFIRMED’ re-interpretation of the Wilson Report.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It took Cheney a while to realize that the report he had DOCTORED at the CIA and had CONFIRMED at the DIA was Wilson’s Report, but when he did - his Talking Points narrow down to just one thing - Get Joe Wilson.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why? Because Joe KNEW from the SOTU forward that BushCo was ‘twisting’ HIS intelligence to SELL THE WAR - Joe Wilson SAW TREASON AFOOT in the highest offices in the land!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He had to be smeared - they had no choice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:Kathleen@87">Kathleen@87</a></p>
<p>Do you think Wolfowitz (OSP) made the Mar 8, 2003 DIA ‘concurrence’ Memo happen?</p>
<p>This was the Memo that ‘confirmed’ the Feb CIA Analysis Memo that ’shape-shifted’ Wilson’s Report to SUPPORT the Uranium Claim that it actually DEBUNKED.</p>
<p>By getting DIA to ‘confirm’ the Feb CIA Analysis Memo, two weeks before the Invasion, Cheney had established a SECOND STREAM of Intell that (fraudulently) INDEPENDENTLY SUPPORTED the Uranium Claim to re-justify the 16-Words after the IAEA declared the original Intell for the 16-Words to be forgeries.</p>
<p>So, Cheney leaned on the CIA for the ’shape-shifting’ Analysis Memo, and then leaned on Wolfowitz to produce the DIA ‘confirmation’ Memo.</p>
<p>And off to War we went on the strength of the fraudulently DOCTORED and fraudulently ‘CONFIRMED’ re-interpretation of the Wilson Report.</p>
<p>It took Cheney a while to realize that the report he had DOCTORED at the CIA and had CONFIRMED at the DIA was Wilson’s Report, but when he did &#8211; his Talking Points narrow down to just one thing &#8211; Get Joe Wilson.</p>
<p>Why? Because Joe KNEW from the SOTU forward that BushCo was ‘twisting’ HIS intelligence to SELL THE WAR &#8211; Joe Wilson SAW TREASON AFOOT in the highest offices in the land!</p>
<p>He had to be smeared &#8211; they had no choice.</p>
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