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		<title>By: Lois Fairbanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lois Fairbanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cinnamonape @ 204 -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah, thanks! It makes more sense now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Ah, thanks! It makes more sense now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Maguire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Maguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;CHS notes: Tom — That is the single most ludicrous thing you have EVER said. Your blog is on our blogroll, and you have never, ever been banned here. Period.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can’t imagine how I would prove that from time to time my comments have been “disappeared”, but that has been my experience on occasion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>CHS notes: Tom — That is the single most ludicrous thing you have EVER said. Your blog is on our blogroll, and you have never, ever been banned here. Period.</i></p>
<p>I can’t imagine how I would prove that from time to time my comments have been “disappeared”, but that has been my experience on occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494613&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lois Fairbanks @ 56 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If they’re playing GJ audio tapes, how does it work when Fitz or someone &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Shows note saying “talking points - Hardball 7/14, wrong statement,” along with others saying “Shapiro - Adam Levine knows,” “Eric Sorenson,” and “fax a station”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;– that is, how do the auditors at the current trial know what was shown, or underlined, or redacted, from the exhibits? Does Fitz give a description of what he’s showing, or is there a voiceover commentary, or what?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(new poster here - kudos to all at FDL for the incredible job you’ve done and continue to do!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I get from swopa (our glorious paraphraser) that Fitz is showing the exhibits  he showed Libby on the Elmo to this jury at the same time that he handed them to Libby (on the tape). Thus the jury can see the versions that Libby saw.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if there were subsequent redactions… (seems there was some)but the DEFENSE didn’t protest these, so it’s most likely that Libby saw additional material that has been ruled not germane to his testimony but that should remain confidential (either personal information, like phone numbers, or classified information).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These should be in todays release of exhibits by Fitz on &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wid.ap.org/documents/libbytrial/index.html&quot;&gt;http://wid.ap.org/documents/libbytrial/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-494613"><em>Lois Fairbanks @ 56 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>If they’re playing GJ audio tapes, how does it work when Fitz or someone </p>
<blockquote><p><em>Shows note saying “talking points &#8211; Hardball 7/14, wrong statement,” along with others saying “Shapiro &#8211; Adam Levine knows,” “Eric Sorenson,” and “fax a station”</em></p>
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<p>– that is, how do the auditors at the current trial know what was shown, or underlined, or redacted, from the exhibits? Does Fitz give a description of what he’s showing, or is there a voiceover commentary, or what?</p>
<p>(new poster here &#8211; kudos to all at FDL for the incredible job you’ve done and continue to do!)</p>
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<p>I get from swopa (our glorious paraphraser) that Fitz is showing the exhibits  he showed Libby on the Elmo to this jury at the same time that he handed them to Libby (on the tape). Thus the jury can see the versions that Libby saw.</p>
<p>I don’t know if there were subsequent redactions… (seems there was some)but the DEFENSE didn’t protest these, so it’s most likely that Libby saw additional material that has been ruled not germane to his testimony but that should remain confidential (either personal information, like phone numbers, or classified information).</p>
<p>These should be in todays release of exhibits by Fitz on </p>
<p><a href="http://wid.ap.org/documents/libbytrial/index.html">http://wid.ap.org/documents/libbytrial/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494561&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tap Duncan @ 9 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494557&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;froggermarch @ 7&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did I miss it or did Libby suggest that Wolfowitz had leaded the Intelligence Estimate BEFORE it had been declassified?  Uh, isn’t that, you know ILLEGAL?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah I caught that too, and had the same reaction, so at least you’re not alone!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wolfowitz (according to the former Secretary of the Treasury Paul O’Neil in Ron Suskind’s book the “Price of Loyalty” (a must read) Wolfowitz and Cheney are the architects of the catastrophe in Iraq) walked out the back door to the World Bank…let’s hope Fitz walks him back in the front door.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Wolfowitz is just another radical drowning in American soldiers and the Iraqi peoples blood.  He deserves to be part of the Frog March!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-494561"><em>Tap Duncan @ 9 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-494557"><em>froggermarch @ 7</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Did I miss it or did Libby suggest that Wolfowitz had leaded the Intelligence Estimate BEFORE it had been declassified?  Uh, isn’t that, you know ILLEGAL?</p>
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<p>Yeah I caught that too, and had the same reaction, so at least you’re not alone!</p>
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<p>Wolfowitz (according to the former Secretary of the Treasury Paul O’Neil in Ron Suskind’s book the “Price of Loyalty” (a must read) Wolfowitz and Cheney are the architects of the catastrophe in Iraq) walked out the back door to the World Bank…let’s hope Fitz walks him back in the front door.</p>
<p> Wolfowitz is just another radical drowning in American soldiers and the Iraqi peoples blood.  He deserves to be part of the Frog March!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494666&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ace @ 105 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;JEP:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mel Sembler is the key to the Niger Forgery.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mel Sembler heads up Scooter Libby’s Legal defense Fund.  Mel is a lifelong Republican with a very checkered past:  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://alternet.org/story/27725/&quot;&gt;http://alternet.org/story/27725/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestraights.com/index.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.thestraights.com/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How’s this for coincidence?  Mel just happened to be the Ambassador to Italy (of all places, in that he didn’t even speak the language) at the same time that Ledeen makes a trip to Rome to meet with him and others - then magically - the purported Niger Yellow Cake document appears in Italy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even more interesting, when Lieberman loses to Lamont in the DEMOCRATIC primary, it is Republican Sembler who hosts a fundraiser for Lieberman to run as an Independent (with the full support of the White House and Karl Rove).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; “Faster Please”  Micheal Ledeen is pushing  hard for the pre-emptive strike on Iran. Will Iran be attacked before the Aipac/Rosen/Franklin trial?  This trial has been delayed at least three times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   It is telling that a Republican controlled Congress found it more important to hold a President accountable for lying about a BLOW JOB than to hold those responbible for AN INTELLLIGENCE SNOWJOB that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deathe and injuries ( Phase II of the SSCE was dismissed, delayed and diverted by Senator Pat Roberts too many times to count).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will we ever witness anyone held accountable for the Niger Documents? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Crime in Italy (Niger Documents) will someone  please give Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest of these criminals blow jobs so that they could be impeached!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-494666"><em>ace @ 105 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>JEP:</p>
<p>Mel Sembler is the key to the Niger Forgery.</p>
<p>Mel Sembler heads up Scooter Libby’s Legal defense Fund.  Mel is a lifelong Republican with a very checkered past:  </p>
<p><a href="http://alternet.org/story/27725/">http://alternet.org/story/27725/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.thestraights.com/index.htm">http://www.thestraights.com/index.htm</a></p>
<p>How’s this for coincidence?  Mel just happened to be the Ambassador to Italy (of all places, in that he didn’t even speak the language) at the same time that Ledeen makes a trip to Rome to meet with him and others &#8211; then magically &#8211; the purported Niger Yellow Cake document appears in Italy.</p>
<p>Even more interesting, when Lieberman loses to Lamont in the DEMOCRATIC primary, it is Republican Sembler who hosts a fundraiser for Lieberman to run as an Independent (with the full support of the White House and Karl Rove).</p>
<p> “Faster Please”  Micheal Ledeen is pushing  hard for the pre-emptive strike on Iran. Will Iran be attacked before the Aipac/Rosen/Franklin trial?  This trial has been delayed at least three times.</p>
<p>   It is telling that a Republican controlled Congress found it more important to hold a President accountable for lying about a BLOW JOB than to hold those responbible for AN INTELLLIGENCE SNOWJOB that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deathe and injuries ( Phase II of the SSCE was dismissed, delayed and diverted by Senator Pat Roberts too many times to count).  </p>
<p>Will we ever witness anyone held accountable for the Niger Documents? </p>
<p>Crime in Italy (Niger Documents) will someone  please give Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest of these criminals blow jobs so that they could be impeached!</p>
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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Punchprincess @ 5&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks FDL bloggers. This is the most fun I’ve had since 1974.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Me too!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember coming home from law school classes and plopping down in front of the tv to watch the Watergate hearings.  This was before the day of VCR’s [at least there wasn’t one in my home], and WAY before personal computers or the internets.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was riviting to watch the Watergate saga unfold under the relentless questioning of Senators.  And the press was helping things along. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To the Time Machine, Batman.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry kiddies.  We old folks are just engaging in a little nostalgia.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punchprincess @ 5</p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks FDL bloggers. This is the most fun I’ve had since 1974.</p>
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<p>Me too!!!</p>
<p>I remember coming home from law school classes and plopping down in front of the tv to watch the Watergate hearings.  This was before the day of VCR’s [at least there wasn’t one in my home], and WAY before personal computers or the internets.</p>
<p>It was riviting to watch the Watergate saga unfold under the relentless questioning of Senators.  And the press was helping things along. </p>
<p>To the Time Machine, Batman.  </p>
<p>Sorry kiddies.  We old folks are just engaging in a little nostalgia.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie in Novato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie in Novato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494867&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;litigatormom @ 197 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Sadly, Clark not eligible to serve as SecDef; his active military service is too recent. I think he would be great at State.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“By statute the secretary must be a civilian who has not served in the active component of the armed forces for at least 10 years “&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Defense&quot;&gt;from wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Had Powell been inactive for ten years before he became Secretary of State? He was active during the Gulf War in 1991, wasn’t he?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The restriction regarding prior active military service applies only to SecDef. Powell, as SecState was not affected. This is why I suggested Clark for SecState. ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-494867"><em>litigatormom @ 197 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“Sadly, Clark not eligible to serve as SecDef; his active military service is too recent. I think he would be great at State.</p>
<p>“By statute the secretary must be a civilian who has not served in the active component of the armed forces for at least 10 years “</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Defense">from wikipedia</a></p>
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<p>Had Powell been inactive for ten years before he became Secretary of State? He was active during the Gulf War in 1991, wasn’t he?</p>
<p>The restriction regarding prior active military service applies only to SecDef. Powell, as SecState was not affected. This is why I suggested Clark for SecState. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: godeep-er</title>
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		<dc:creator>godeep-er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494599&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Woodhall Hollow @&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494593&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;BobbyG @ 37&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Cheney would just say, I declassified Plame’s ID, suck it up”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;_____&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wanna hear Deadeye make that specific assertion unequivocally in public for the record, that mendacious prick. They keep tangentially proferring that, via the  ostensible ‘enfettered classification authority’ of POTUS and VPOTUS.&lt;br /&gt;
_&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know!  And will a reporter have the guts to ask him about this when he is next interviewed (if he is).  Better yet, I would love to see one of the WH press corps ask either Tony Snow or Bush himself…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shooter will just say, “I can’t discuss anything about a matter for which I might be called as a witness.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The real question is, will the conservative Fitzgerald get the VP to testify? Under oath. That’s what we all want to see.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Major kudos to FDL and all the bloggers here. Stellar stuff!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-494593"><em>BobbyG @ 37</em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>“Cheney would just say, I declassified Plame’s ID, suck it up”</p></blockquote>
<p>_____</p>
<p>I wanna hear Deadeye make that specific assertion unequivocally in public for the record, that mendacious prick. They keep tangentially proferring that, via the  ostensible ‘enfettered classification authority’ of POTUS and VPOTUS.<br />
_</p>
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<p>I know!  And will a reporter have the guts to ask him about this when he is next interviewed (if he is).  Better yet, I would love to see one of the WH press corps ask either Tony Snow or Bush himself…</p>
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<p>Shooter will just say, “I can’t discuss anything about a matter for which I might be called as a witness.” </p>
<p>The real question is, will the conservative Fitzgerald get the VP to testify? Under oath. That’s what we all want to see.</p>
<p>Major kudos to FDL and all the bloggers here. Stellar stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Mandrake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandrake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-494756&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;JEP @ 170 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edwards-Pres.&lt;br /&gt;
Obama- VP&lt;br /&gt;
Gore- EPA Chief&lt;br /&gt;
Fitz OR Spitz-AG&lt;br /&gt;
Bill Clinton- UN&lt;br /&gt;
Hillary Clinton-Majority Leader&lt;br /&gt;
Vilsack-Education&lt;br /&gt;
Clarke-Defense&lt;br /&gt;
Richardson-State&lt;br /&gt;
Gephart-Labor&lt;br /&gt;
Harkin-Agriculture&lt;br /&gt;
Huffington-Press Secretary&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK the last one is a bit tongue in cheek, but a worthy suggestion, nonetheless… she would sure pretty-up the press room, and compared to Snowjob, Scottydog, and Flesh, the IQ would jump precipitously.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just responding to a previous post…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, what about Dean??  I used to think Surgeon General but I guess you gotta be a surgeon so something to do with healthcare, for sure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-494756"><em>JEP @ 170 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Edwards-Pres.<br />
Obama- VP<br />
Gore- EPA Chief<br />
Fitz OR Spitz-AG<br />
Bill Clinton- UN<br />
Hillary Clinton-Majority Leader<br />
Vilsack-Education<br />
Clarke-Defense<br />
Richardson-State<br />
Gephart-Labor<br />
Harkin-Agriculture<br />
Huffington-Press Secretary</p>
<p>OK the last one is a bit tongue in cheek, but a worthy suggestion, nonetheless… she would sure pretty-up the press room, and compared to Snowjob, Scottydog, and Flesh, the IQ would jump precipitously.</p>
<p>Just responding to a previous post…</p>
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<p>Hey, what about Dean??  I used to think Surgeon General but I guess you gotta be a surgeon so something to do with healthcare, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: litigatormom</title>
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		<dc:creator>litigatormom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Sadly, Clark not eligible to serve as SecDef; his active military service is too recent. I think he would be great at State.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“By statute the secretary must be a civilian who has not served in the active component of the armed forces for at least 10 years “&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Defense&quot;&gt;from wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Had Powell been inactive for ten years before he became Secretary of State? He was active during the Gulf War in 1991, wasn’t he?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Sadly, Clark not eligible to serve as SecDef; his active military service is too recent. I think he would be great at State.</p>
<p>“By statute the secretary must be a civilian who has not served in the active component of the armed forces for at least 10 years “</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Defense">from wikipedia</a></p>
<p>Had Powell been inactive for ten years before he became Secretary of State? He was active during the Gulf War in 1991, wasn’t he?</p>
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