f i t z ?

Fitz!

I’m not gay. I just sleep with men.

I succumbed to the urge to “fitz”. I feel kind of dirty now. rehab time?

Arianna eviscerates Joe Klein, via Kos. a sampling:

3. As a student of the dark art of sophistry, I particularly loved this Kleinian gem: “I had my doubts about my skepticism about the war…” I know English is my second language, but let me get this straight: you weren’t actually, as you have claimed, “opposed to the war” since 2002 — you were “skeptical” of the war? And, what’s more, you had “doubts” about your “skepticism.” Wow, talk about taking a bold stand. Could you possibly cover all your bases any more thoroughly (and inelegantly)?

His Holiness TRex I!

But how will the popemobile hold up under your 60ft self?

…no word on his throwing-meth-in-the-trash-can problem?

twolf1 @ 6

…no word on his throwing-meth-in-the-trash-can problem?

there’s a meth thud to his man-ness.

punaise @ 4

I succumbed to the urge to “fitz”. I feel kind of dirty now. rehab time?

I’m sure you can quit any time you like, right?

He now needs to immediately contact ex rep Foley.
Maybe they could do some sort of revival.

This church-controlled audit that proclaimed RevTed “completely heterosexual” also asked that he and MrsTed leave the state and seek employment outside the church.

With friends like that….

Haggard is no longer claiming he’s a homosexual.

He’s now claiming he’s the reincarnation of Roy Cohn.

punaise @ 8

twolf1 @ 6

…no word on his throwing-meth-in-the-trash-can problem?

there’s a meth thud to his man-ness.

After that, we give the Puhl-itzer, and retire from commenting, as it will not get better.

And, in honor of Ted Haggard’s 110% heteroness, Dan Savage linked to this article

Oh, TRex, I was so looking forward to your take on this. Can we have a little more snark, please?

Nah, you’re right, it’s a three-month miracle. What more can you say?

I’m gonna wash that gay right outta my hair!

wasn’t brawn the tamed the beast, nor beauty, twas jesus. ted couldn’t get it up to bone jesus, so they figure he is cured.
wonder how many butts they had to use to cure him? was it a slow withdrawal? did various former fornicators help him with the cure? did they start him on meth to gauge his affliction? did they practice what they preach? did they lay on hands?

please forgive me for my attempt at humor using haggard’s hole in one poker as the article for the saxon fricative in question. and since the most famous guy named jesus, sorry, second, there was a ball player that had more going for him at the time, is dead and probably doesn’t care about why ted was boning anyone, but I digress.

what other country would believe this tripe but for….dare I say it…..
Boratistan?

punaise @
8

twolf1 @ 6

…no word on his throwing-meth-in-the-trash-can problem?

there’s a meth thud to his man-ness.

This is just wonderful.

Crazy Horse @ 12

punaise @ 8

twolf1 @ 6

…no word on his throwing-meth-in-the-trash-can problem?

there’s a meth thud to his man-ness.

After that, we give the Puhl-itzer, and retire from commenting, as it will not get better.

hee hee: poor Ted: low hanging fruit, so to speak….

Well, gosh, don’t we all know by now that words are more important than behavior? It’s all about the rhetoric, baby.

Seeing as how she’s still with him, he’s obviously just bribed his wife to back up that he’s hetero now. He’ll probably knock her up soon just to seal the deal.

“It’s hard to heal in Colorado Springs right now. It’s like an open wound. He needs to get somewhere he can get the wound healed.”

Perhaps he could come to San Francisco.

punaise is really smokin’ 2-nite

Ralph said the board spoke with people close to Haggard while investigating his claim that his only extramarital sexual contact happened with Mike Jones. The board found no evidence to the contrary.

“If we’re going to be proved wrong, somebody else is going to come forward, and that usually happens really quickly,” he said. “We’re into this thing over 90 days and it hasn’t happened.”

I always laugh at this kind of logic when it comes to determining someone’s sexual orientation.

The absence of a certain kind of sexual activity does not prove anything about orientation. Think of it this way: if a guy has never had sex with a girl, you don’t say that means he’s gay — you say he’s a virgin.

TeddySanFran @
11

This church-controlled audit that proclaimed RevTed “completely heterosexual” also asked that he and MrsTed leave the state and seek employment outside the church.

With friends like that….

Gee, and the Sunday school and church I attended and joined were always teaching Christ’s message of forgiveness and eternal love.

Guess the fundies edited those bits out the Gospel.

Blergh.

Arianna.

what are you smokin’, btw?

BTW, TRex, in Germany, the joke is, “Wir sind Papst” We are the pope!

punaise @ 19

Crazy Horse @ 12

punaise @ 8

twolf1 @ 6

…no word on his throwing-meth-in-the-trash-can problem?

there’s a meth thud to his man-ness.

After that, we give the Puhl-itzer, and retire from commenting, as it will not get better.

hee hee: poor Ted: low hanging fruit, so to speak….

refresh

Teddy,
I noticed that. That was just the saddest thing.

twolf: Didn’t you see Stephen Colbert’s explanation: “I buy meth all the time and throw it away just to keep it out of the hands of the kids!”

Give him a break– giving up guys isn’t really that hard ….

Wait, that now makes him a lesbian!

See you at the next Indigo Girls concert, Ted! Can I borrow a tampon?

Nice observation.

TRex, I hope we’ll be seeing that “image” as part of your “signature” from now on. It’s hysterical!

Beware of the ziggurat!

attn sara-don’t know if you’re in old thread or new thread—
sorry trex, o/t and epu’d from last thread, but is something that has nagged me for four years……….

epu’d=
sara @79
this hits upon something i have wondered about and don’t know if i can put it into words—-

back when we first invaded iraq-before the government was set up, when things were still crazy, museums being pillaged, etc., when we first sent negotiators over there……i heard an interview with someone who was helping ’set-up’ things there……..one of the first things talked about were trade deals, as i remember it was THE FIRST thing negotiated, it shocked me….business came first…….similar to how we control what seeds a country can import, etc., that kind of thing…….that was the first thing we did, who they could do business with and how……….i have tried to find information on this, but don’t even know where to start looking or what it is called……but it was there in the interview in black and white–she was talking off the cuff but what she said had great implications on later control of commerce and agriculture—–these are the companies you can deal with and these are the rules that you live by in order to form an agreement, was not an option for them……do you know anything about that kind of thing? has always nagged at the back of my brain, was never mentioned again anywhere that i could find…..

from your post:
For example, the Danes decided to rehabilitate their Agriculture and Food Processing sector as first priority (Butter, cheese, Beer, Chicken, Eggs and Bacon) by using loans to purchase needed farm machinery, fertilizer, and cold storage equiptment — whereas W. Germany bought from Gary Indiana giant stamping equiptment, so as to build out the Volkswagan production. Profits from trade had to be re-invested, currency value was controlled, Subsequent re-investment was also subject to approval by the Economic Ministers Commission.

(snip)

Once the first projects were selected and financed in 1948, this made US private investment in a Recovering Europe a profitable and secure proposition, and beginning in 49 and 50, private investment massively increased, though for a period of years profits could not easily be repatriated. In fact one reason the VW came to the US in the 50’s was because it was a means to repatrate profit.

(snip)

Personally I think if more ordinary Americans had just a little familarity with this history, there would be a lot less tolerance for the slap dash approach to both Afghanistan and Iraq.

(snip)

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kirk murphy @ 25

TeddySanFran @
11

This church-controlled audit that proclaimed RevTed “completely heterosexual” also asked that he and MrsTed leave the state and seek employment outside the church.

With friends like that….

Gee, and the Sunday school and church I attended and joined were always teaching Christ’s message of forgiveness and eternal love.

Guess the fundies edited those bits out the Gospel.

Blergh.

Wow, his church was just sooo supportive and forgiving when this first happened . . . praying for his recovery and all that jazz.

No surprise here, either.

A contrite Ted Haggard said today that if he banged anyone outside his marriage it would be a woman relieved church leaders reported.

Mandrake @
27

what are you smokin’, btw?

true story, I think: Brigitte Bardot, when asked if she smoked after sex, replied: “I don’t know – I never checked.”

BWAHAHAHAHA

Who wants to start a pool: weeks/months before that steroid abusing meth snorting muscle queen is photo’d with her heels over her head at the tubs in whatever town they move to?

My brain works oddly. Every time I run across news on this story I can’t help but think of the H. Rider Haggard novel She and the several movie versions and sequels. Some of the films are *really* campy.

Oh – I should probably post a link to Truth Wins Out, a group who “montiors” the ex-gay whackos.

BTW Mitch McConnell is on the NewsHour lying about the Iraq Resolutions and raising strawmen right and left. Typical.

In case anyone missed *this* rather offensive “explanation” for Ted’s behavior…

Most pastors I know do not have satisfying, free, sexual conversations and liberties with their wives. At the risk of being even more widely despised than I currently am, I will lean over the plate and take one for the team on this. It is not uncommon to meet pastors’ wives who really let themselves go; they sometimes feel that because their husband is a pastor, he is therefore trapped into fidelity, which gives them cause for laziness. A wife who lets herself go and is not sexually available to her husband in the ways that the Song of Songs is so frank about is not responsible for her husband’s sin, but she may not be helping him either.

punaise @ 38

Mandrake @
27

what are you smokin’, btw?

true story, I think: Brigitte Bardot, when asked if she smoked after sex, replied: “I don’t know – I never checked.”

:^D

punaise @
38

Mandrake @
27

what are you smokin’, btw?

true story, I think: Brigitte Bardot, when asked if she smoked after sex, replied: “I don’t know – I never checked.”

sounds more like Mae West to me. or Divine…

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – An outspoken supporter of the Iraq war on Tuesday called for a new tax to pay for its astronomical cost as Congress opened a debate on President George W. Bush’s $2.9 trillion budget plan for next year.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut proposed a “war on terrorism tax” at a Senate hearing during which he said the Pentagon’s $622 billion defense budget proposal for fiscal 2008 threatened to crowd out funds for domestic programs.

Renee in Ohio @ 41

In case anyone missed *this* rather offensive “explanation” for Ted’s behavior…

Oh, yeah, the “it’s his wife’s fault” defense.

I remember that. The re-run is just as obnoxious as the first time around.

So much for that conservative meme, taking personal responsibility….

Oklahoma kiddo @ 44

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – An outspoken supporter of the Iraq war on Tuesday called for a new tax to pay for its astronomical cost as Congress opened a debate on President George W. Bush’s $2.9 trillion budget plan for next year.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut proposed a “war on terrorism tax” at a Senate hearing during which he said the Pentagon’s $622 billion defense budget proposal for fiscal 2008 threatened to crowd out funds for domestic programs.

I wonder how Holy Joe is going to make this sound like a genuine sacrifice without his very wealthy contributors being affected in any way by such a tax….

Haggard’s gonna go learn ta be a shrink- cause he obviously has great powers for change.

montag @ 45

Renee in Ohio @ 41

In case anyone missed *this* rather offensive “explanation” for Ted’s behavior…

Oh, yeah, the “it’s his wife’s fault” defense.

I remember that. The re-run is just as obnoxious as the first time around.

So much for that conservative meme, taking personal responsibility….

What are you saying?! They are advocating responsibility. The responsibility of the wives to look like porn stars for their sorry-ass fundie husbands.

montag @ 46

Oklahoma kiddo @ 44

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – An outspoken supporter of the Iraq war on Tuesday called for a new tax to pay for its astronomical cost as Congress opened a debate on President George W. Bush’s $2.9 trillion budget plan for next year.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut proposed a “war on terrorism tax” at a Senate hearing during which he said the Pentagon’s $622 billion defense budget proposal for fiscal 2008 threatened to crowd out funds for domestic programs.

I wonder how Holy Joe is going to make this sound like a genuine sacrifice without his very wealthy contributors being affected in any way by such a tax….

Just the fact that he used the word “tax” without being followed by “cut” leaves me stunned.

Mandrake @
42

punaise @ 38

Mandrake @
27

what are you smokin’, btw?

true story, I think: Brigitte Bardot, when asked if she smoked after sex, replied: “I don’t know – I never checked.”

:^D

Haven’t found it yet, but Woodie Allen DID say “If you smoke after sex, you’re doing it too fast.”

Matthews, on “Hardball”, is incredulous at the Scooter ‘defense’. Perhaps Libby can get a new trial based upon inadequate representation.

And how exactly did they test Ted to verify that he is indeed a changed man? How do they audit sexual proclivity? Do you think they have some kind of very complex and insanely expensive machine they hook people up to and get a Gay/No Gay readout? Do you think they’d be interested in buying one?

by the way, Brigitte Bardot, after a stint as an animal rights activist, turned into a right-wing extrem*st xenophob*c homophob*c nut-job.

Oh, god, Tony Snow on CSPAN on that fucked-up budget proposal. [shuffles off to get waders and a bottle of Pepto]

MSNBC – KO on the Scootie Libber tapes – tonight

A clip of Bremer today also from the NewsHour. Bremer says that when he arrived in Iraq the country was in chaos. Wow, I’m glad he solved that problem.

Clothodi @ 52

And how exactly did they test Ted to verify that he is indeed a changed man? How do they audit sexual proclivity? Do you think they have some kind of very complex and insanely expensive machine they hook people up to and get a Gay/No Gay readout? Do you think they’d be interested in buying one?

Already out there. Gaydar. :)

Would it help, in bars, say, to be able to go up to a stunning supermodel and say, “Hi, I’m Ted, and the Reverend Tim Ralph – no, really, I’m not making that name up – the Reverend Tim Ralph has declared me ‘completely heterosexual.’ How about we take that out for a spin?”

Seriously, this news had the potential to give me the giggles for days, albeit with a fear that if Rev Ted moved into my neighborhood, my unendorsed heterosexuality would shrivel up next to his, you know, complete & certified brand of same.

And then I considered the nugget in the second half of the article TRex linked to: Ted & the Mrs. are going to pursue Master’s degrees in Psychology. I’d love to hear him introduce himself to prospective clients, and I wonder if he’ll carry the Right Reverend Ralph’s proclamation around on his card.

Holy Jeebus, you couldn’t make this shit up.

Clothodi @ 51

And how exactly did they test Ted to verify that he is indeed a changed man? How do they audit sexual proclivity? Do you think they have some kind of very complex and insanely expensive machine they hook people up to and get a Gay/No Gay readout? Do you think they’d be interested in buying one?

They’ll probably strip him down and lock him in a room full of gay porn with a surveillance camera.

montag @ 56

Clothodi @ 52

And how exactly did they test Ted to verify that he is indeed a changed man? How do they audit sexual proclivity? Do you think they have some kind of very complex and insanely expensive machine they hook people up to and get a Gay/No Gay readout? Do you think they’d be interested in buying one?

Already out there. Gaydar. :)

HomoMeter

Tart of tongue Arianna does it again: ;0)

I agree with Joe Klein’s assessment that there are “far more important things going on in the world” than a clarification of his position on the war in Iraq. But I can’t resist reacting to his seven-point response to my post on him:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..40570.html

Mutant Poodle @ 57

And then I considered the nugget in the second half of the article TRex linked to: Ted & the Mrs. are going to pursue Master’s degrees in Psychology.

I think it’s kind of nice to see literalist fundamentalists embracing the sciences, don’t you? :)

Ted’s theme song:

“Glory, glory hole, I’ll oo ya…”

oh I am LOVIN’ that one ! Fa-buh-luss !

Last one on smoking subject:

Do you mind if I smoke? (Oscar Wilde to Sarah Bernhardt) I don’t care if you burn

off to a couple of rehearsals where I’ll”smoke ‘em” ’cause the doc let me throw away my sling. Maybe I’ll send it to ex-Rev. Haggard after he secretly sends his new address.

punaise @ 62

Ted’s theme song:

“Glory, glory hole, I’ll oo ya…”

“Mine eyes have seen the glory of the cooooommminnng of the Lord….”

Kate O’B on Hardball. Good Christ!

Oklahoma kiddo @ 66

Kate O’B on Hardball. Good Christ!

Is she doing an outraged Lynne Cheney routine in defense of her hubby?

montag @ 66

punaise @ 62

Ted’s theme song:

“Glory, glory hole, I’ll oo ya…”

“Mine eyes have seen the glory of the cooooommminnng of the Lord….”

Whew! Both you guys.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 69

Ted’s theme song:

“Glory, glory hole, I’ll oo ya…”

“Mine eyes have seen the glory of the cooooommminnng of the Lord….”

Whew! Both you guys.

sorry, Peterr. got a little carried away there… :~)

but has anyone told The General?

behind, the eightball….

Oklahoma kiddo @ 68

Whew! Both you guys.

I was holding back, giving punaise time to bask in the glory of that first one of his in this thread….

Those same four ministers would also like you to know that should Rev. Ted in the future be caught diddling with others of the same gender, it’s all part of the therapy and doesn’t mean anything. Oh, yeah, the same holds true for the therapists.

I think we need a little more proof of Ted’s alleged heterosexuality. Maybe something like the test that the belly dancer gave to Gregory Hines in
“History of the World”.

punaise @ 70

Oklahoma kiddo @ 69

Ted’s theme song:

“Glory, glory hole, I’ll oo ya…”

“Mine eyes have seen the glory of the cooooommminnng of the Lord….”

Whew! Both you guys.

sorry, Peterr. got a little carried away there… :~)

Not a problem – I’m more bothered by the nutjob that Renee brought up @ 41. “Rather offensive” doesn’t begin to express my contempt for such folks and their theology. :)

Having said that, if anyone around the Lake ought to have a problem with this story, it’s Pach and the other psychologists around here. Now Ted’s headed from my profession to his.

Be afraid, Pach. Be very afraid.

I can only imagine what school would be willing to accept Ted into their masters program.

montag @ 73

Oklahoma kiddo @ 68

Whew! Both you guys.

I was holding back, giving punaise time to bask in the glory of that first one of his in this thread….

after being on best behavior during live-blogging threads, all that pent up wordplay was bound to emerge somewhere….

Peterr @ 76

I can only imagine what school would be willing to accept Ted into their masters program.

this one?

What a riot. I love it! ;0)

Ted! Why! did! your! mom! do! that! to! you!

(see http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..zn.01.html and search for “why did you do”… the original video has the gay guy whaling on a pillow with a tennis racket… very scary and VERY sad.) Ted, you have no chance, you deluded oaf. Resign and live out your life being true to yourself.

I hate being on my best behavior. I can’t get into enough trouble that way. That’s no fun atoll.

TedHaggard @ 3

I’m not gay. I just sleep with men.

Roy Cohn’s famous last words…

Someone else mentioned this somewhere on the toobz, but isn’t it pretty kinky of the wife to stay with old Ted? I mean the denial, humiliation, submission, and redemption aspects of the whole thing are just thick with sexual energy. I bet this check knows how to get off just as well as the good Reverend.

Jesus… just imagine the shit that will get stirred up in their U. of Fundy Masters in Psychology coursework.

punaise @ 77

Peterr @ 76

I can only imagine what school would be willing to accept Ted into their masters program.

this one?

Umm, I think Ted would be more at home at Norman Bates College.

So Ted has licked homosexuality? That is just nuts.

Olbermann has stopped by our living room.

Well, let me just say I’d do everything possible to keep Ted off my couch.

Can someone please explain to me why a debate on the Iraq war is necessary in view of polls which show Americans are way against this war?

I hear the U. of Fundy is tidally boring. Sorry, that was bad. Oh, Fundy as in fundamentalist. Sheesh. More sorry. :)

What debate?

I just have to pop in to say that I’ve pretty much spent the last hour adjusting my track lighting.

FWIW…rumor has it that TRex will have a special guest for Late Night tonight.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 87

Can someone please explain to me why a debate on the Iraq war is necessary in view of polls which show Americans are way against this war?

Gotta give the congress critters some opportunity to show that they’re needed… and they seem to be proving that they aren’t….

Oklahoma kiddo @ 88

Can someone please explain to me why a debate on the Iraq war is necessary in view of polls which show Americans are way against this war?

possibly because if the US Senate showed its resolve to act like a co-equal branch of the govt., the Executive Branch would have to pay attention. They can and are ignoring us, the REAL Deciders. Of course, the Senate Repubs caved because they hate America.

If a debate actually happens, how many additional American soldiers will perish in Iraq in the interim?

punaise @ 53

by the way, Brigitte Bardot, after a stint as an animal rights activist, turned into a right-wing extrem*st xenophob*c homophob*c nut-job.

Oh, crap. That’s disappointing.

KO on libby tapes now on msnbc

Mandrake @ 95

punaise @ 53

by the way, Brigitte Bardot, after a stint as an animal rights activist, turned into a right-wing extrem*st xenophob*c homophob*c nut-job.

Oh, crap. That’s disappointing.

almost as alarming as my inadvertent near-brush with the c-word…

oops, sorry mods, for requoting that one.

Simply put: I cannot take the Libby defense of ‘I forgot’ seriously.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 94

If a debate actually happens, how many additional American soldiers will perish in Iraq in the interim?

Are the troops in Iraq fighting to defend the freedom of Republican senators to block Democratic senators from speaking out against the war?

neurophius @ 99

Oklahoma kiddo @ 94

If a debate actually happens, how many additional American soldiers will perish in Iraq in the interim?

Are the troops in Iraq fighting to defend the freedom of Republican senators to block Democratic senators from speaking out against the war?

Well stated.

I’m sure that the ministers want to remove all doubt about their technique. Therefore, one of them needs to volunteer to be converted to gay. Then, all of us skeptics will believe in the validity of their technique and they can convert him back. These guys are fast so the whole thing should take about a month.

I really have to wonder what Fitzgerald is thinking tonight.

RBG @
91

I just have to pop in to say that I’ve pretty much spent the last hour adjusting my track lighting.

FWIW…rumor has it that TRex will have a special guest for Late Night tonight.

a) well, Halo is a major manufacturer of track lighting. just sayin’.

b) is that anything like a mystery witness?

Mandrake @ 94

punaise @ 53

by the way, Brigitte Bardot, after a stint as an animal rights activist, turned into a right-wing extrem*st xenophob*c homophob*c nut-job.

Oh, crap. That’s disappointing.

I hear there’s a remake in the works, “Love Hate is My Profession.”

dannyM @ 83

Someone else mentioned this somewhere on the toobz, but isn’t it pretty kinky of the wife to stay with old Ted? I mean the denial, humiliation, submission, and redemption aspects of the whole thing are just thick with sexual energy. I bet this check knows how to get off just as well as the good Reverend.

Jesus… just imagine the shit that will get stirred up in their U. of Fundy Masters in Psychology coursework.

Like I said earlier, he paid her off.

Clothodi @
52

And how exactly did they test Ted to verify that he is indeed a changed man? How do they audit sexual proclivity? Do you think they have some kind of very complex and insanely expensive machine they hook people up to and get a Gay/No Gay readout? Do you think they’d be interested in buying one?

http://skepdic.com/penilep.html

“The results of this study indicate that individuals who score in the homophobic range and admit negative affect toward homosexuality demonstrate significant sexual arousal to male homosexual erotic stimuli.”

I’ve long held the theory that guys who go into bars to pick fights are gay-inclined men psycho-sexually trapped in strict gender roles. They can’t face the fact they want to fuck guys, so they picks fights with them instead.

In the interest of full disclosure, I am not gay.

But my Mistress is, sometimes…

http://www.selinaraven.com/

Was Cheney a usurper? Perhaps guilty of sedition?

Olbermann tackles the ‘diaper caper’ in a moment. Talk about strange.

Rev.Ted’s miraculous “recovery” offers new hope for the tragically gay.

I wonder whether Vice President Cheney has considered sending his daughter Mary on a vacation trip to Colorado Springs?

That was great, Ty, but the one I can’t get over was about Mr. Dickerson. It was so excellent I’m giving it my top rating: ultra-super OTW. Almost the exact same thing happened to me last time I went to the DMV. I was just amazed at how you captured the way a normally sensitive person can feel so exposed and vulnerable in a place like that . It’s like my long-lost identical twin fantasy come true.

Anyway, I’m promoting you to first and only on my intensive focus list. (St*lking is such an ugly, ugly word.) I checked out your sun sign and blood type, and they’re a match.

Don’t worry though,Ty. I’m so discreet and under control, you’ll barely notice. An occasional distant glint off the binoculars. A mystery note on the windshield now and then. The rare late phone call with intense whispering and theremin solos. Some people find it life-enhancing to have that little bit of dramatic edge added to everyday life. I’m also intrigued by the possibilities of a GPS personal locator beacon. If you wore one, I’d never have to worry about where you are. I know I could hide one in your car, but that seems kind of impersonal.

Ty, I hope it makes your day to know that you met someone’s emotional needs, modest as they are. I’m looking forward to following your future work, and I’m sure you’ll never, ever disappoint me.

Your eternal abject fanboy,

Stanley Ungerforth

montag at 46:

Oklahoma kiddo @ 44

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – An outspoken supporter of the Iraq war on Tuesday called for a new tax to pay for its astronomical cost as Congress opened a debate on President George W. Bush’s $2.9 trillion budget plan for next year.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut proposed a “war on terrorism tax” at a Senate hearing during which he said the Pentagon’s $622 billion defense budget proposal for fiscal 2008 threatened to crowd out funds for domestic programs.

I wonder how Holy Joe is going to make this sound like a genuine sacrifice without his very wealthy contributors being affected in any way by such a tax….
_______________________________________________

Probably going to be a tax only on people who make less than $250K.

Diapers, astronauts, attempted murder, and Ted Haggard. Is this a great country (circus)? Or what?

The TRex pope illustration only needs the label “fig. 1″ to be complete.

hilarious

Ann in AZ @ 112

Probably going to be a tax only on people who make less than $250K.

Actually, I was fearing something like a payroll tax with an $80K or so cap on it, just so the little people would really feel like they were sacrificing for the war effort.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 113

Diapers, astronauts, attempted murder, and Ted Haggard. Is this a great country (circus)? Or what?

And Bush is out on the stump, selling his budget as “just like a family budget.”

Yep, I read the news, oh, boy….

Hey Dem pols. What are you doing to save American GI’s from being killed in Iraq? Oh, you’re debating? Non-binding resolution? Sorry. Won’t cut it.

I can only imagine what school would be willing to accept Ted into their masters program.

I can’t believe that no one said Oral Roberts University. Was it just too obvious?

I’m getting somewhat pissed, Demos.

neurophius @ 110

Rev.Ted’s miraculous “recovery” offers new hope for the tragically gay.

Homosexuality is not a disease. It fails to satisfy Cock’s Postulates

Members of my party (Democrats) you will be held accountable, also.

KO talking about O’Reilly and the child abductor…grrrrr, I am about to pop a vein! Breathe….!

Doh! *waving to Suzanne*

Suzanne @ 118

I can’t believe that no one said Oral Roberts University. Was it just too obvious?

Us, resort to cheap puns? :)

We in this country have freedom. To be hilarious. And deadly.

montag @ 124

Suzanne @ 118

I can’t believe that no one said Oral Roberts University. Was it just too obvious?

Us, resort to cheap puns? :)

we are all cheap-punned by this discussion.

LindaR @
114

The TRex pope illustration only needs the label “fig. 1″ to be complete.

hilarious

but where is his tail? he needs it for ballast – he’ll tip over with those little legs.

Trex,

When I saw the story earlier today I thought that this would be of interest to you. Nice to know that there is a “cure”. I wonder if they will announce a vaccine next. They must have really screwed with Ted’s head. THe Log CAbin Republicans will standing in line for this!

KO is going to talk about Haggarty, coming up soon.

punaise @ 126

we are all cheap-punned by this discussion.

We’re all feeling morally Haggard and cheep-hen-pecked.

All hail Pope TRex!!

We wondered how you were going to handle this one. Heh.

I guess I didn’t know that Christianists used magic wands like that, just wave it around, SWISH! and all teh gay is gone. Huh.

Bob Jones University could have a whole new meaning now.

What TV movie will come first Haggard Boys or Space Panty Waste?

1 in a million

Rayne @ 131

SWISH! and all teh gay is gone.

Isn’t that sort of a contradiction in terms…?

3 weeks counseling?? Holy crap, I thought it was 3 months! Seriously.

Inheard a great story on the local NPR station of proposed lesgislation on teen drivers. A 12 pm to 5 am curfew and no more than 2 in the car for drivers with less than 6 months since receiving their licences. Some woman legislator said that better to have more kids in the car order to prevent teen pregnancy.

PAID HER OFF!

Blair defends close links with US
Press Association
Tuesday February 6, 2007 10:28 PM

Tony Blair issued a staunch defence of his Government’s close partnership with the United States and his readiness to involve Britain in military action overseas.

Mandrake @ 135

3 weeks counseling?? Holy crap, I thought it was 3 months! Seriously.

How gay!

Eureka Springs, AR @ 132

Bob Jones University could have a whole new meaning now.

What TV movie will come first Haggard Boys or Space Panty Waste?

This is gonna be a bit weird, but I actually worked next door to a company that once got a contract from NASA to destroy astronaut shit.

Bet they didn’t think of this. They could have saved a lot of money by just buying Depends and a big slingshot.

John Aravosis looks pretty good in a 3/4 front view (he’s on CNN’s Hate Hour Now)
but his front shots always leave me feeling chastised.

do not hit submit this comment, do NOT hit the submit this comment button.

aw phoque…

So Trex, are you going to market your own Pope-on-a-Rope soap?

montag @ 140

Eureka Springs, AR @ 132

Bob Jones University could have a whole new meaning now.

What TV movie will come first Haggard Boys or Space Panty Waste?

This is gonna be a bit weird, but I actually worked next door to a company that once got a contract from NASA to destroy astronaut shit.

Bet they didn’t think of this. They could have saved a lot of money by just buying Depends and a big slingshot.

Waste is a terrible thing to be mined.

Gay people are sent by god to help us with over population, they have existed in every culture of every peoples on this earth. They have higher than average I.Q’s (which suggests to me, that it’s adaptive and effective).

If we would let people be gay there would be less sex addiction and promiscuity which, in my opinion is the result of the constant rejection and invalidation that occurs in our culture.

The addiction is a symptom of invalidation that often gets confused with “being gay”.

Ugh…ignorance kills.

punaise @ 143

Waste is a terrible thing to be mined.

Digestion makes the fart go wander.

The roots of most of American Jewry’s anger toward the current president, George W. Bush, cannot be traced to Israel. They did not vote for him in the first place. His ongoing support for Israel may be recognized and appreciated by the establishment, Israeli and Jewish, but it does not receive due credit among a wide Jewish-American public that is liberal, Democratic, dovish and very angry at Bush for significant and various reasons.

Much has been written in recent weeks about the decline in interest in Israel among American Jews, but the writers made scant mention, if they mentioned it at all, of American politics. They should have – because Bush, strange as it may sound, is one of the factors behind the widening of the gap between Jews in America and Israel.

This is one of those bizarre anomalies that characterize the period: The Jews of Israel comprise perhaps the most sympathetic group toward Bush in the entire world. They are certainly more supportive than the general American public and may very well be more sympathetic than any particular group of Americans. On the other hand, American Jews constitute one of the least sympathetic groups. A vast majority of them oppose Bush. Indeed, many really loathe him.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/p…..&art=1

AZ Matt @ 136

Inheard a great story on the local NPR station of proposed lesgislation on teen drivers. A 12 pm to 5 am curfew and no more than 2 in the car for drivers with less than 6 months since receiving their licences. Some woman legislator said that better to have more kids in the car order to prevent teen pregnancy.

I don’t believe in teen drivers. On my son’s 18th birthday, we went for his permit and then his license.

when will Lisa Nowak enter rehab?

I meant I don’t believe in drivers under 18 since eight is a teen. :_

montaq (134) — heh. Not really.

ccmask @ 147

AZ Matt @ 136

Inheard a great story on the local NPR station of proposed lesgislation on teen drivers. A 12 pm to 5 am curfew and no more than 2 in the car for drivers with less than 6 months since receiving their licences. Some woman legislator said that better to have more kids in the car order to prevent teen pregnancy.

I don’t believe in teen drivers. On my son’s 18th birthday, we went for his permit and then his license.

Some kids certainly don’t need them but many parents don’t pay much attention afterwards. What got me in this story was tying teen pregnancy into it. The lady was more worried about that than safety.

Nowak. I have to say this is a sad case. I don’t feel good about it.

TeddySanFran @ 11

This church-controlled audit that proclaimed RevTed “completely heterosexual” also asked that he and MrsTed leave the state and seek employment outside the church.

With friends like that….

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did anybody catch that he and his wife are going back to school to become counselors????? to ‘counsel” people back into being ‘hetero”? there’s money in that in some circles these days…..the powers that be are just spreading out the ministry, sending out the new missionaries to iowa or missouri. they won’t miss a beat now……….they are set. what i spin, i didn’t see it coming, but here it is……..counselors, guess what they’ll be counseling??????????
christian right brainwashing of gays…….”you’re really hetero” it was just a vice. i’m sick.

“Haggard said in an e-mail Sunday, his first communication in three months to church members, that he and his wife, Gayle, plan to pursue master’s degrees in psychology. The e-mail said the family hasn’t decided where to move but that they were considering Missouri and Iowa.

Another oversight board member, the Rev. Mike Ware of Westminster, said the group recommended the move out of town and the Haggards agreed.

”This is a good place for Ted,” Ware said. ”It’s hard to heal in Colorado Springs right now. It’s like an open wound. He needs to get somewhere he can get the wound healed.”

It was also the oversight board that strongly urged Haggard to go into secular work. “

SECULAR WORK—-we’re the secular, people—two more footsoldier brainwashers, they’re adding to their ranks……your ‘vice’ is also your gift……that’s why some of them are so affective, they don’t miss a moment over what they did, they just immediately use it, spin it into an asset, and they will be supported in doing it……that is why places like this, ((((fdl)))) are so important, to be supportive in what each of us is doing……to keep adding foot soldiers, using our ‘passions’ to affect people..but the difference in the kind of foot soldiers that we are is motives…..ours are not based of vices, ours are based on gifts……….and we are using them.

what a place this is. ((((fdl)))) it’s magical.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..r=homepage

new thread

montag @
140

Eureka Springs, AR @ 132

Bob Jones University could have a whole new meaning now.

What TV movie will come first Haggard Boys or Space Panty Waste?

This is gonna be a bit weird, but I actually worked next door to a company that once got a contract from NASA to destroy astronaut shit.

Bet they didn’t think of this. They could have saved a lot of money by just buying Depends and a big slingshot.

So, I gotta ask, how do you destroy astronaut shit?

I don’t remember the Hal 9000 taking care of that issue, “I’m sorry Dave, but your digestion of protein pack 298764 was incomplete. I’m afraid I’m going to have to let that float around in anti-gravity for a while, Dave.”

Finish this sentence.

And to prove it to the congregation Ted is going to _____________________________________ _________________________________________________________.

ceo @
156

Finish this sentence.

And to prove it to the congregation Ted is going to _____________________________________ _________________________________________________________.

Do the Clockwork Orange deal while viewing Heavy into Jeff and never registering more than purely hetero levels on the erectometer, praise god.

Pat Buchanan was his usual pain-in-the-ass self tonight, and Scab-orough is reverting.

Buchanan says it’s only the far left who are being brave and standing up about exiting Iraq. Why does he have to label them — and incorrectly, too? Why isn’t he bitching about the ENTIRE Republican party, save for exceptions like Hagel, who are digging in their fascist feet and rejecting the will of 70%-plus of the American people?

Agh. And that f*ckwit Scab-orough keeps cutting Katrina van den Heuvel off, reiterating Buchanan’s point almost word for word…rude-assed jerk. I don’t know why guests don’t call these morons on this behavior.

I worked with a client who had receieved such counseling. (anti gay counseling) He was absolutely brilliant (spoke several languages and attended college at Hebrew U). When he came to see me he was working taking tickets in a movie theatre and completely psychotic. He was so brainwashed about being gay by his religious upbringing that he was self harming to stop himself from being gay and had joined an anti gay group.

He refused to continue therapy with anyone who dared call him gay. He would not allow me to discuss it with him so we refrained from labeling him. It took about a year for him to fall in love with another man, but eventually he did.

Today, he is not psychotic and is completely self supporting, his parents are filthy rich and would not pay for his therapy or meds because, of course, we didn’t brain wash him the way they would prefer.

Invalidation leads to horrible mental illness and costs all of us in society. Tax payers paid for his hospital bills because his parents disowned him.

Rayne @ 158

I don’t know why guests don’t call these morons on this behavior.

You’re a brave soul, Rayne. I’ve just given up on watching the shout-o-thons in all their various different forms. When the most presentable and courteous information/interview source on the big toob is Donny Deutch’s Big Idea, I know it’s just time to turn the damn thing off.

I can always catch KO’s special comments on YouTube. I’m just getting too old to deal with any other aggravation anymore.

ceo @ 156

Finish this sentence.

And to prove it to the congregation Ted is going to _____________________________________ _________________________________________________________.

get a NEW LIFE CHURCH flakey videotape him waxing the dolphin to the latest Hustler
while downing a can of ol’milwaukee?

katie jenson at 159

thanks, is one of the things i care about. how attitudes and mores are formed and affected i am interested in, that is how things change. we affect each other and if in a good way, open and caring, it matters. and what we THINK matters, and people can tell that…..they use brainwashing of vices, we use gifts to affect each other. i think our way is much more affective. and happier.

neurophius @
110

Rev.Ted’s miraculous “recovery” offers new hope for the tragically gay.

I wonder whether Vice President Cheney has considered sending his daughter Mary on a vacation trip to Colorado Springs?

I think Mary Cheney graduated from Colorado College in the Spgs. A very liberal liberal arts school in a very conservative, reactionary community. I know her Mother and sister graduated from CC, and I think Mary did, too.

Jon Stewart is opening TDS with Haggart’s miraculous “recovery/cure” from gayness.
(Don’t worry, no spoilers for those to the west!)

Who knew that curing gayness could be so easy? Just three weeks of counselling provides a 100% “cure”. Maybe now Haggard can start up his “Love Jesus instead of the Gay Prostitutes with Crystal Meth Camp”.

tragically gay? the only tragedy here is that kind of thinking!!

LindaR @
114

The TRex pope illustration only needs the label “fig. 1″ to be complete.

hilarious

Done.

TRex @
166

LindaR @
114

The TRex pope illustration only needs the label “fig. 1″ to be complete.

hilarious

Done.

love the sketch, but I’m having a little trouble with the bird legs/feet. wouldn’t something heftier be in order?

Totally OT, but where does that formation “Teh Gay,” with the deliberabe misspelling of “the,” come from? I’ve seen it over and over but can’t remember where I saw it first.