I am sick to my stomach that the King is being
protected by his knights who are sacrificed in
his battle to fulfill his personal objectives.
And the Queen is moving everyone around the
board.To someone like Libby, who does others’
bidding, and those over him, this is a chess
game. But the blood being spilled by their
games is very , very real.

It would seem that the opposing team would be
countering . But the separate but equal parts of the government are very still, and very
frightened.

Let us hear from you often please.

David Corn says he’s never listened to Fog Hat. I think I’m going to have to apologize.

Be brave.

I’m sad that Marcy would go on to the Talk of the Nation show. I know it’s good to get the real story out, but Neal Conan is a glib, covert Bushco apologist, who has been promoting the pro Iraq war line all along.

And I distinctly remember when he had Victoria Tonsig on his show early in the Traitor-gate saga. His show is a disgrace to NPR, and I’m disappointed that you guys would be associating with him.

At this point, I can’t really pick and choose the widely heard show from the widely heard show. THough I will say I felt more “at home” on NPR than I did on Wash Journal. Besides, someone’s got to keep Byron in check. I’m happy to do so.

And I distinctly remember when he had Victoria Tonsig on his show early in the Traitor-gate saga. His show is a disgrace to NPR, and I’m disappointed that you guys would be associating with him.

portia.vz @ 117

I’m jumping into this a bit late but isn’t hearing Grand Jury Testimony a little like making the defendant take the stand? I thought that you couldn’t be compelled to incriminate yourself. Does Grand Jury Testimony fall into some special kind of category of evidence?

Can one take the Fifth in GJ testimony?

I don’t know. I think you can but you can be sent to jail for failing to cooperate (like Jud) or given immunity (like Ari). (I think)
But what I meant in this trial is that yhr defendant can’t be compelled to testify. The defense is under no obligation to make him do so. As I understand it, the burden of proof is on the prosecution. So, if the prosecution offers your grand jury testimony as evidence, it seems to me that this is equivalent to making you testify at trial. But as others have pointed out, Libby testified voluntarily at the Grand Jury so his testimony can be used.
I am *soooo* glad I didn’t become a lawyer. This stuff would have driven me mad, MAD, I say!

portia.vz @ 117

I’m jumping into this a bit late but isn’t hearing Grand Jury Testimony a little like making the defendant take the stand? I thought that you couldn’t be compelled to incriminate yourself. Does Grand Jury Testimony fall into some special kind of category of evidence?

Can one take the Fifth in GJ testimony?

He’s being accused of committing perjury and obstruction of justice in his grand jury testimony. The GJ testimony isn’t being presented as testimony, but rather as proof that he did, while under oath, make statements that he knew to be false.

The fifth amendment gives you the right to remain silent, not the right to commit perjury and obstruction of justice if you think it might help you escape the consequences of your actions. If he had wanted to plead the fifth he should have done it in front of the grand jury instead of fibbing.

–MarkusQ

I’m jumping into this a bit late but isn’t hearing Grand Jury Testimony a little like making the defendant take the stand? I thought that you couldn’t be compelled to incriminate yourself. Does Grand Jury Testimony fall into some special kind of category of evidence?

Can one take the Fifth in GJ testimony?