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you guys are gonna love this from think progress;

Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX) regrets voting for the Iraq War resolution in 2002:

The resolution was a resolution that authorized the president to take that action if he deemed it necessary. Had I been more true to myself and the principles I believed in at the time, I would have openly opposed the whole adventure vocally and aggressively. I had a tough time reconciling doing that against the duties of majority leader in the House. I would have served myself and my party and my country better, though, had I done so.

nice

republicans owning up to the damage they have done to America

we need more of this going on

see, now we can definately go to armey and offer him some kind of campaign deal if he supports impeachment

this is what I’m talking about, we can’t afford to wait two years, we can’t afford to go through channels, we can get the administration impeached if we approach the politicians like armey and give them something

these guys want to hang on to power, it’s because of the administrations depraved abuse of the republican party that they’ve lost their power, they will be more then willing to exact a fee for that depravity, all we have to do is give them a good reason to do it

I’m with you. To wit:
Rep. Walter (the original “Freedom Fry”) Jones (R-NC) wins my all time award for taking a long hard look in the mirror, seeing some truth, then doing something about. Humility is fantastic and his introduction of HJ Joint Resolution 14 may be the only thing between the current f**k’d-up situation and pure insanity. A Bible thumping right wing politician trying to take a very big gun from the hands of a madman. He needs our support on this:
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H. J. Res. 14: Concerning the use of military force by the United States against Iran

(a) Rule of Construction- No provision of law enacted before the date of the enactment of this joint resolution shall be construed to authorize the use of military force by the United States against Iran.

(b) Requirements- Absent a national emergency created by attack by Iran, or a demonstrably imminent attack by Iran, upon the United States, its territories or possessions or its armed forces, the President shall consult with Congress, and receive specific authorization pursuant to law from Congress, prior to initiating any use of military force against Iran.
_______________________________________________________
Sure, it could be stronger, but right now we’re all in a dangerous situation and this will help.

I think it was George Lakoff remarked on the success of the Republican machine over the past 40 years owing much to the willingness of disparate factions to agree on some basic doctrines and, more importantly, agree to disagree on many of the specifics. (Picture in my head of James Dobson debating Bill Kristol on abstinence only education. Huh?). There is something we could all learn from that.

These republican flip-floppers are useful and should be congratulated and nurtured (then of course indicted and tried if appropriate). Thank you Perris for the update. I feel a little better.

Me too, thanks sweetgumroot.

you guys are gonna love this from think progress;

Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX) regrets voting for the Iraq War resolution in 2002:

The resolution was a resolution that authorized the president to take that action if he deemed it necessary. Had I been more true to myself and the principles I believed in at the time, I would have openly opposed the whole adventure vocally and aggressively. I had a tough time reconciling doing that against the duties of majority leader in the House. I would have served myself and my party and my country better, though, had I done so.

nice

republicans owning up to the damage they have done to America

we need more of this going on

see, now we can definately go to armey and offer him some kind of campaign deal if he supports impeachment

this is what I’m talking about, we can’t afford to wait two years, we can’t afford to go through channels, we can get the administration impeached if we approach the politicians like armey and give them something

these guys want to hang on to power, it’s because of the administrations depraved abuse of the republican party that they’ve lost their power, they will be more then willing to exact a fee for that depravity, all we have to do is give them a good reason to do it

I’m with you. To wit:
Rep. Walter (the original “Freedom Fry”) Jones (R-NC) wins my all time award for taking a long hard look in the mirror, seeing some truth, then doing something about. Humility is fantastic and his introduction of HJ Joint Resolution 14 may be the only thing between the current f**k’d-up situation and pure insanity. A Bible thumping right wing politician trying to take a very big gun from the hands of a madman. He needs our support on this:
_____________________________________________
H. J. Res. 14: Concerning the use of military force by the United States against Iran

(a) Rule of Construction- No provision of law enacted before the date of the enactment of this joint resolution shall be construed to authorize the use of military force by the United States against Iran.

(b) Requirements- Absent a national emergency created by attack by Iran, or a demonstrably imminent attack by Iran, upon the United States, its territories or possessions or its armed forces, the President shall consult with Congress, and receive specific authorization pursuant to law from Congress, prior to initiating any use of military force against Iran.
_______________________________________________________
Sure, it could be stronger, but right now we’re all in a dangerous situation and this will help.

I think it was George Lakoff remarked on the success of the Republican machine over the past 40 years owing much to the willingness of disparate factions to agree on some basic doctrines and, more importantly, agree to disagree on many of the specifics. (Picture in my head of James Dobson debating Bill Kristol on abstinence only education. Huh?). There is something we could all learn from that.

These republican flip-floppers are useful and should be congratulated and nurtured (then of course indicted and tried if appropriate). Thank you Perris for the update. I feel a little better.

Swopa @ 45

Sigh… I guess no one reads my posts. :-(

Oh yes we do! And can’t wait for your scintillating blogging from court on Monday.

Ari didn’t get that golden “Get Out of Jail Free” card for nothing!

I believe that Fitz had to know beforehand he wasn’t really buying a “pig in the poke” from Ari when he gave him Immunity.

That knowledge was probably from others (i.e. via squealing by the piggies members of our illustrious MSM), but it was the real deal!

Immunity handed out like bubblegum? From a Federal, hard-as-nails, bully-proof prosecutor?

It. Just. Ain’t. Done!

Can you say GREGORY? Or maybe even Tamara Lipper? He knew that ARI was at the tail end of a chain of leaks…and wanted to find out who told ARI.

Interesting diary at dKos from Larry C. Johnson. By citing several documents, he connects some interesting dots.

We have known all along that Dick Cheney asked the CIA to follow up on a DIA report about Iraq’s effort to get uranium from Niger. Thanks to the latest document dump we now know that Dick Cheney received a preliminary brief from the CIA and the the Senate Intelligence Committee, in its 2004 report, covered up this fact. February 12, 2002, Dick Cheney’s CIA briefer arrived with a piece of finished intelligence that set in motion a series of events that exposed the identity of a CIA undercover officer, destroyed a CIAfront company and compromised its various assets, and sent Scooter Libby to trial for perjury and obstruction of justice.

He also provides links to several docs released in a doc dump. These indicate what the VP knew and when he knew it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/4/132816/7498

Who else isn’t watching the Superbowl?

I will point out that this is supported in the infamous “June 12th” (backdated) memo between the VEEP and Libby. BTW I read the date (before it being altered) as 6/8/03…the day that Condy went in front of Press The Meat do counter the charges that Kristof was making about the Niger Uranium forgeries.

http://wid.ap.org/documents/li…..X10401.PDF

Note that the memo nowhere mentions anything about a Pincus article…only Kristof. Libby asserts that the memo was to provide him with Talking Points for the Pincus article, but he would not have been aware of that on June 8th!

Not only does that memo contain the statement “his wife works in CP Division” [Counter-Proliferation] but that whenyou can get through Libby’s horrific penmanship and codes the note clearly says:

“6/12/03″ [see comment above…about what I think is an “8″ below that and the “~” above the “12″]

“J-Y re “Uranium Q”- Kristof NYT Article” [Y=Cheney; Q= Iraq]

“Took place at our behest – functional office – CP/ his wife works in that div(isio)n”

AT OUR BEHEST!!! They admit in this memo that they initiated the request to the CIA to follow up on the Iraq Uranium reports. Then the request went to the “functional office” where it was passed to the CPD.

“Debriefing took place here bar [?] mtg in region”

This shows that Cheney already knew details about Wilson’s trip…including that he may have had a “debriefing” in Niger. “Bar” possibly stands for “Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick”.

“OVP – Defense and State expressed strong interest in issue”. “Y [= VP] – Hold * get agency to answer this”

STRONG INTEREST! As Larry Johnson pointed out…is it at all likely that the OVP didn’t get follow up?

Apparently Cheney told Libby that, YES! OVP was interested, but so was State and Defense. Perhaps he was hoping that the CIA would be able to cover up his role and say that Wilson was sent at the request of the other Departments.

Then there are series of ‘talking points’ with difficult handwriting

“1) didn’t here [?] @ [and here the next word is perhaps important and is either] “mission” or “Wilson”

“2) didn’t get report back”

and “3) no indication of forgery per [?] (an IAEA”

Now this lays out precisely what the Vice President requested of the CIA about the Iraq Uranium claims. He tells Libby that it WAS done “at our behest” but also lays out some ways of obscuring that fact…by getting the CIA to say that the mission may have occurred at the request of the State Dept. or Defense. That they didn’t know about the “mission” (or “Wilson”), that they never got “the report” back, and that they had no idea about a forgery.

Given that Libby admits that by this time Cheney had already learned that the Ambassador’s “wife works in that division” (Counter Proliferation…from the CIA (Tenet?)…it’s had to believe that he would not have known the Ambassadors name.

That’s why I think that “mission” actually is “Wilson”. But it’s ambiguous.

http://news.nationaljournal.co…..525nj1.htm

Jane has arrived at the Plame House up top.