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		<title>By: Lance Link</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/parsons-under-fire/#comment-489949</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 06:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489727&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 11 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Where did the Bush family fortune originate from?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Samuel Bush, through his munitions company “Buckeye Casting”, was reportedly a major war profiteer during WW1.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Where did the Bush family fortune originate from?</p>
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<p>Samuel Bush, through his munitions company “Buckeye Casting”, was reportedly a major war profiteer during WW1.</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/parsons-under-fire/#comment-489829</link>
		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489817&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;barrelhse @ 75&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Parsons? As in Boston Big Dig? I imagine those pigs are livin’ high on the hog with all OUR money. They’d be unworthy of contempt, but I enjoy hating people who think they’re cool when, in fact, they’re nothing but fucking criminals.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Were they the Big Dig prime? I thought I recognized that name from somewhere. Looks like they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.parsons.com/transport/tunnel/projects/project06.asp&quot;&gt;had a big, expensive piece of it&lt;/a&gt;, anyway.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They’re also involved with a project called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.parsons.com/transport/highways/projects/project09.asp&quot;&gt;the T-REX Corridor&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Parsons? As in Boston Big Dig? I imagine those pigs are livin’ high on the hog with all OUR money. They’d be unworthy of contempt, but I enjoy hating people who think they’re cool when, in fact, they’re nothing but fucking criminals.</p>
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<p>Were they the Big Dig prime? I thought I recognized that name from somewhere. Looks like they <a href="http://www.parsons.com/transport/tunnel/projects/project06.asp">had a big, expensive piece of it</a>, anyway.</p>
<p>They’re also involved with a project called <a href="http://www.parsons.com/transport/highways/projects/project09.asp">the T-REX Corridor</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/parsons-under-fire/#comment-489826</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489807&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jon Hendry @&lt;br /&gt;
                74              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not to defend Parsons, but in the pictures at the bottom, some of that debris and damage could be from weapon fire, rather than shoddy construction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example, the piles of dirt and debris on the staircase, or the holes in the walls showing daylight. The latter photo has a bunch of debris on the ground, as I’d expect to see if people had been taking potshots at the building.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It wouldn’t be unusual for people to take potshots at a vacant building for kicks - except in Iraq they’d use weapons heavier than bb guns and slingshots.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s interesting speculation, I suppose.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, the Inspector General has seen and reported on the evidence that the construction was unbelievably shoddy.  I just saw him talk about it on the news the other day in an interview.  It was staggering — it was hard to believe the buildings they “constructed” were actually standing.  And there was plenty of film footage in the segment to show the gory details.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-489807"><em>Jon Hendry @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Not to defend Parsons, but in the pictures at the bottom, some of that debris and damage could be from weapon fire, rather than shoddy construction.</p>
<p>For example, the piles of dirt and debris on the staircase, or the holes in the walls showing daylight. The latter photo has a bunch of debris on the ground, as I’d expect to see if people had been taking potshots at the building.</p>
<p>It wouldn’t be unusual for people to take potshots at a vacant building for kicks &#8211; except in Iraq they’d use weapons heavier than bb guns and slingshots.</p>
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<p>That’s interesting speculation, I suppose.</p>
<p>However, the Inspector General has seen and reported on the evidence that the construction was unbelievably shoddy.  I just saw him talk about it on the news the other day in an interview.  It was staggering — it was hard to believe the buildings they “constructed” were actually standing.  And there was plenty of film footage in the segment to show the gory details.</p>
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		<title>By: barrelhse</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/parsons-under-fire/#comment-489817</link>
		<dc:creator>barrelhse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Parsons? As in Boston Big Dig? I imagine those pigs are livin’ high on the hog with all OUR money. They’d be unworthy of contempt, but I enjoy hating people who think they’re cool when, in fact, they’re nothing but fucking criminals.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parsons? As in Boston Big Dig? I imagine those pigs are livin’ high on the hog with all OUR money. They’d be unworthy of contempt, but I enjoy hating people who think they’re cool when, in fact, they’re nothing but fucking criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Hendry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Hendry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not to defend Parsons, but in the pictures at the bottom, some of that debris and damage could be from weapon fire, rather than shoddy construction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example, the piles of dirt and debris on the staircase, or the holes in the walls showing daylight. The latter photo has a bunch of debris on the ground, as I’d expect to see if people had been taking potshots at the building.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It wouldn’t be unusual for people to take potshots at a vacant building for kicks - except in Iraq they’d use weapons heavier than bb guns and slingshots.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to defend Parsons, but in the pictures at the bottom, some of that debris and damage could be from weapon fire, rather than shoddy construction.</p>
<p>For example, the piles of dirt and debris on the staircase, or the holes in the walls showing daylight. The latter photo has a bunch of debris on the ground, as I’d expect to see if people had been taking potshots at the building.</p>
<p>It wouldn’t be unusual for people to take potshots at a vacant building for kicks &#8211; except in Iraq they’d use weapons heavier than bb guns and slingshots.</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/parsons-under-fire/#comment-489804</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/the-scooter-libby-trial-and-uranium-from-africa-part-4-the-under-reported-war-on-joseph-wilson/&quot;&gt;eRiposte Part 4&lt;/a&gt; is upstairs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/parsons-under-fire/#comment-489803</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489800&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;viget @ 70&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Greeeaat….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Parsons is the lead engineering design firm for the contractor for the rebuild of I-64 in St. Louis.  This is already a boondoggle, as they’re supposedly going to start in April and have this all finished by 2010.  Right.  This is going to go WAAAAY over budget and will be a disaster.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are there bridges in that stretch of roadway?  And can you avoid driving on it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-489800"><em>viget @ 70</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Greeeaat….</p>
<p>Parsons is the lead engineering design firm for the contractor for the rebuild of I-64 in St. Louis.  This is already a boondoggle, as they’re supposedly going to start in April and have this all finished by 2010.  Right.  This is going to go WAAAAY over budget and will be a disaster.</p>
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<p>Are there bridges in that stretch of roadway?  And can you avoid driving on it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/parsons-under-fire/#comment-489801</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489795&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;David Ehrenstein @ 66&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Fitzgerald, however, will not be intimidated. And with his having studied with the Jesuits, I guarantee he understands every rhetorical trick in the book, every false analogy, every straw man argument, etc. etc. (too numerous to list).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s why I love him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In fact, I can hardly believed Cheney will allow himself to be put on the stand.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s too arrogant not to.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I too was educated by Jesuits, something that’s stood me in good stead all my life.  When in graduate school I had professors stop me and ask me where I’d gone to school (and bemoan the fact that other students seemed to lack the rigor of critical thinking).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you too go to a Jesuit institution?  [Not that that’s the only way to become a great critical thinker!]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-489795"><em>David Ehrenstein @ 66</em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>Fitzgerald, however, will not be intimidated. And with his having studied with the Jesuits, I guarantee he understands every rhetorical trick in the book, every false analogy, every straw man argument, etc. etc. (too numerous to list).</p></blockquote>
<p>That’s why I love him.</p>
<blockquote><p>In fact, I can hardly believed Cheney will allow himself to be put on the stand.</p>
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<p>He’s too arrogant not to.</p>
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<p>I too was educated by Jesuits, something that’s stood me in good stead all my life.  When in graduate school I had professors stop me and ask me where I’d gone to school (and bemoan the fact that other students seemed to lack the rigor of critical thinking).</p>
<p>Did you too go to a Jesuit institution?  [Not that that’s the only way to become a great critical thinker!]</p>
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		<title>By: viget</title>
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		<dc:creator>viget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Greeeaat….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Parsons is the lead engineering design firm for the contractor for the rebuild of I-64 in St. Louis.  This is already a boondoggle, as they’re supposedly going to start in April and have this all finished by 2010.  Right.  This is going to go WAAAAY over budget and will be a disaster.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greeeaat….</p>
<p>Parsons is the lead engineering design firm for the contractor for the rebuild of I-64 in St. Louis.  This is already a boondoggle, as they’re supposedly going to start in April and have this all finished by 2010.  Right.  This is going to go WAAAAY over budget and will be a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/03/parsons-under-fire/#comment-489799</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489796&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;perris @ 67&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489792&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mrs. K8 @ 64&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In fact, I can hardly believed Cheney will allow himself to be put on the stand.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not sure he will…this might be just a shiny object&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he might video tape, he might answer wells and then simply say;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“you don’t know what I know and if you did you would understand this trial undermines national security&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;scooter libby is a patriot and was doing what needed to be done to protect our country and anyone that decides otherwise is a traitor”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;don’t put it past him&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He can’t just cough up a videotaped segment and call it testimony.  He has to be able to be cross-examined.  I don’t believe for a minute that the judge would allow such a thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, attorneys in the house?  That’s not permitted in a trial, is it?  For a witness to testify without being cross-examined?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-489792"><em>Mrs. K8 @ 64</em></a></p>
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<p>In fact, I can hardly believed Cheney will allow himself to be put on the stand.</p>
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<p>I’m not sure he will…this might be just a shiny object</p>
<p>he might video tape, he might answer wells and then simply say;</p>
<p>“you don’t know what I know and if you did you would understand this trial undermines national security</p>
<p>scooter libby is a patriot and was doing what needed to be done to protect our country and anyone that decides otherwise is a traitor”</p>
<p>don’t put it past him</p>
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<p>He can’t just cough up a videotaped segment and call it testimony.  He has to be able to be cross-examined.  I don’t believe for a minute that the judge would allow such a thing.</p>
<p>Hey, attorneys in the house?  That’s not permitted in a trial, is it?  For a witness to testify without being cross-examined?</p>
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