The Libby trial dramatizes for me how the wealthy and powerful can maximize their chances to evade the consequences of their actions. The trial is notable in large part because people like Libby almost never have to answer to the public for their criminal actions. Even if they are indicted, the Libby types of the world can spend millions in their defense, while the poor and the pigmented can rot. Whether Libby is eventually convicted or acquitted, this situation will remain.
The United States has the highest prison population in the world. I need to do more learning and study of our penal culture, but I've begun to assemble some links here and here and here. Feel free to offer me more links for community review in the comments.
This is all connected to our growing concentration camp system for immigrants, which, as we've seen, tends to gather the undocumented and their citizen children all together (does anyone really trust the Department of Homeland Security to do anything right?). The Washington Post had a front page article yesterday with some dramatic content, including this snippet about a brimming $65 million penal tent city in Texas:
But civil liberties and immigration law groups allege that out of sight, the system is bursting at the seams. In the Texas facility, they say, illegal immigrants are confined 23 hours a day in windowless tents made of a Kevlar-like material, often with insufficient food, clothing, medical care and access to telephones. Many are transferred from the East Coast, 1,500 miles from relatives and lawyers, virtually cutting off access to counsel.
"I call it 'Ritmo' — like Gitmo, but it's in Raymondville," said Jodi Goodwin, an immigration lawyer from nearby Harlingen.
An inspector general's report last month on a sampling of five U.S. immigration detention facilities found inhumane and unsafe conditions, including inadequate health care, the presence of vermin, limited access to clean underwear and undercooked poultry. Although ICE standards require that immigrants have access to phones and pro bono law offices, investigators found phones missing, not working or connected to non-working numbers.
On a personal note, I have a pretty compelling (to me at least) story related to our prison culture I'd like to tell you, because I'm going to ask the community for some help at the end.
Three years ago, my parents, just days before they moved from my childhood home, received a letter addressed to me. It was from a man whom I knew in 1989-1990 when he was 15 or 16 years old. At that time, I had been a full time volunteer (with housing and a small stipend) for Covenant House in Texas, serving homeless, runaway and throwaway youth, trying to help them get out of a life on the streets.
Unlike a lot of the kids I had dealt with there, this kid seemed to have a chance to make it. He had an adoptive family that was willing to take him back, under certain conditions. He was bright and eager to get his young life together, having been raised at first by a very mentally ill woman, his natural mother. For whatever reason, he began to look up to me, and I gained approval from the organization to help him transition into his adoptive home and back to into high school, at the request of his adoptive parents and as part of an aftercare plan to keep him off the streets.
I left Texas in 1990 but had given him a contact address for me at my parents' home, and he wrote to me for a year or two more before falling out of contact. Then, suddenly, I heard from him again three years ago: he was in prison in Texas, desperate to reform his life, reaching out via mail on some faint hope of finding me. Somehow, he remembered the address after all those years.
For the last three years, he's been writing me lengthy letters in longhand, and I've been writing back. I confronted him on his crime, what he had done, sorting it out, cutting through his initial tendency to want to defend himself or minimize his actions. He was pretty able to take an inventory of his culpability, but I still had to scuff up his thinking a bit. I also contacted authorities in Texas so I could study his criminal record. His crime? Hitting his child while trying to slap his common law wife during a domestic dispute (she may or may not have picked up the child as a sheild). Ugly stuff.
Oddly enough, I did a lot of work with batterers once upon a time and so I know the species quite well, the different types, the treatment options and ways to evaluate treatment programs (the subject of my doctoral research). I know well the need to bluntly and unrelentingly confront any tendencies among such offenders to minimize, deny or blame others for their actions. I know from some experience how to make informed guesses about a given offender's prognosis.
I did all this as best I could through letters, letters, letters. He hung in there. To him, I was some person from his past who once had stuck with him and had given him hope when the chips were down, and he wanted me to be a kind of mentor for him again.
I admit, I had mixed feelings when I received that letter. There are not many times in your life when the universe knocks on your door like that, asking you to take a chance to help another person make some kind of positive change in their lives. As much as I hated what he had done, how could I say no? I decided I could not look myself in the mirror if I refused to help, as long as I felt he was being straight with me and was using his time on the inside to make his life right. I stuck with him, right or wrong. Others could justifiably have responded differently, but I'm happy with my choice. He seems to have done very well, with plenty of necessary learning and introspection, these last three years.
On the inside, he's stayed out of trouble (I've verified this), and he has taken loads of classes, as many as he could. He's gotten A's in his prison extension community college classes (he sends me his graded papers). To me, he's an example of a person inside our prison system who has a chance at rehabilitation if the resources are afforded him, who can make a change with the right relationship support.
Still, through his experiences, I've gained a window into how difficult we make it to get access to those resources, how much our prison systems are rigged for harsh punishment over any chance at rehabilitation. This is especially true after release: there are very few, meagerly funded transitional programs swamped by waiting lists serving ex-offenders. No one gets elected by helping them and few people make donations (ex-offenders aren't very cuddly looking). Fundamentalist churches do some good, but they force you to become a wingnut to earn the right to eat. Will my ex-offender make it eventually? I don't know, but as long as he's making the real effort and keeping himself clean, I'll help.
Here's where I need help from this community: he's set for release this month and needs some assistance making his way back into community life on entirely new footing. I'm not talking about money here, but rather, opportunity.
He does have a place to stay. It's a little shaky, but it's the best he could get for now (though he's willing to support his child, he's no longer in a relationship with the child's mother,, which, from all I can tell, is a very good thing for everyone). The big thing right away is this: he's going to need a job.
Is there anyone in Houston willing to give an ex-con a chance? He's got some computer tech skills, probably on a basic level of network engineering support. He speaks well in a basic service position, and should certainly be able to do better than your average tech support desk person at a CompUSA or some such place. But he needs someone to give him a chance.
I'm asking people who might have some ideas about options or some provisional interest in helping his transition back to the community to email me at pachacutec at firedoglake dot com. Please write "Second Chance" in the subject line of your email, even if you only want to ask me more questions to help you make whatever decisions you may want to make about all this.
No matter what happens with this ex-offender, our culture is broken when it comes to criminalizing all kinds of actions and meting out unduly harsh sentences falling disproportionally on the backs of the poor and on people of color. Once we classify someone in our minds as a "criminal," we virtually cease to think of that person as human at all anymore. We make ex-felons, reformed or not, into social pariahs, no questions asked, while war criminals and profiteers make the rounds of the talking head shows and op-ed pages. Our politicians score cheap points competing with each other to try to appear "tough on crime." Even progressives blithely traffic in prison rape jokes, a testament to how well the right wing has desensitized us all to the humanity of others, most especially the poor or members of minority groups.
The public relations blitz of our imaginary "war on terror" (that virtually ignores Al Qaeda and bin Laden in favor or Saddam) is of a piece with this kind of thinking. Once we labeled Saddam a "terrorist," based on lies, we justified aggression and occupation of a nation of people, resulting in countless and continuing deaths, all in the name of some rhetoric of international "law and order" (even as we behave lawlessly). Having learned nothing, we're trying to do it again with Iran. Every time we do it, with the help of Democrats who want to appear "tough," we destroy lives. No wonder the rest of the world is subtly beginning to band together to bring us down a few pegs. We're out of control.
As a nation, our thinking needs to change, not only regarding many of our "terrorist enemies" abroad, but also about those whom we demonize at home, including "criminals" and "immigrants." As progressives, it's our responsibility to begin to push this national conversation. After all, what do we abet by our silence?
If we remain silent, ask not who will be responsible for the next Abu Ghraib or Gitmo: we will be. If there is to be justice, or some greater approximation of it, in America, including accountability for the powerful, we need to change the way we think and talk about crime, criminals, responsibility and accountability. We must remember that the labels we blithely apply, like "terrorist" or "felon," carry with them a cost in blood, death and the destruction of people's lives, of whole communities: our communities. The choice to begin that change, to propel that national conversation, belongs to us.
(The song in the clip above originally appeared on Steve Earle's terrific 1996 album of the same name, "I Feel Alright.")
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PACHACUTEC!!
Yes. Pachacutec.
Fitz?
Fitz!!
I believe S. Earle wrote the album “I feel alright” in prison didn’t he?
Steve Earle is the Man
TRex!!! Sent you a belated email response. Hope you got it.
Valley Girl @ 6
I did. I got it this afternoon. Thanks!
Pach! You rock!
Houston, we have an opportunity…)
Pach — I want you to contact The Real Live Preacher. I will send him an email and let him know you’re going to contact him, along with a link to this post.
Preacher will understand what you and your protege are up against, and he’s in the right neck of the woods. For him it will be both his calling and personal.
I’m writing to him as soon as I hit Submit Comment.
Pach – Great post. The situation with immigration concentration camps is as bad downunder. An American ex-pat (now Aussie citizen) Linda Jaivin has been active in trying to do something about the refugees interned down there. She wrote a novel based on that experience called the Infernal Optimist. Highly recommended.
Hope you can find help for your ex-con.
BTW – Linda Jaivin has written some very funny books as well, Rock and Roll Babes from Outer Space is excellent [TRex if you’re still lurking - you might enjoy this!]
Wow, thanks gang. I was frankly a bit nervous writing about this, expecting a lot of ambivalence.
While I’m sure there are people who would not feel comfortable offering support or opportunity to the guy I mention, and for understandable moral objections due to the nature of his crime, I also think we should reframe the social redemption narrative from the left, and refuse to cede the ground entirely to the fundies. There are ways to earn your standing back in the community, but right now, we really don’t offer them, not from a secular perspective.
Pach:
A friend of mine just built a brand new recording studio in the Houston area, which I did the technical design for last year.
I’ll contact him, he’s plugged into the pro music community down there, which, these days, is heavily computer based.
Rayne, please copy me on emails. It will help me track everything in my database, rather than through the comment thread and links.
That so rocks that you may have a good contact. I’m so appreciative.
I put a lot of heart and soul into this man when he was a homeless kid, and I’m rooting for him now, even if there are no guarantees in life.
SteveAudio @ 15
Awesome. Thanks!
When he was sixteen, this guy built his own home stereo. He’s an avid and able tinkerer.
Wow, the NY Times just can’t stop carrying water for Scooter.
The title of their latest article could have been written by Wells: “Did I Say That? Memory proves Weak in the Libby Perjury Trial”.
I don’t know where to begin with this piece of garbage…
Bless you and your friend (and Steve Earle!). I wish I could help. I know of a tech support place in Phoenix that might hire him (they’ve hired several of my students, including a former student who was a recovering meth addict with a record), but that probably isn’t much help. Best of luck to you, and I hope the man you are helping finds a job and builds a better life.
I got nothing to offer in the way of help but thanks for an awesome post. I think you’re doing a great thing.
Pach — email’s been sent. Tell him Rayne Today sent you. hello [at] reallivepreacher.com
I have a kid brother who served time. He wasn’t right in the head after a head injury, had literally hit a tree with his skull after cracking up his car. He made crappy decisions for a handful of years afterwards that landed him in prison. He was fortunate enough to find gainful employment after he got out, and now 10 years later is a family man with a good job, a bachelor’s degree, working on a Master’s. Having an opportunity to set himself back on the road made a big difference in his life, although it wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t hit bottom. It took that before his fragile head could wrap itself around the right stuff.
Here’s hoping that your protege will head in the right direction given a good chance to do so.
xyz: link? I just checked the front page and don’t see it.
Whose byline is it?
Here’s a link to the NY Times Libby article. Key line: “last week, when Libby’s lawyers pressed witnesses to recall events in 2003, the witnesses faltered, some spectacularly. For the defense, that was a twofer, raising doubts about the testimony while adding plausibility to Mr. Libby’s contention that he, too, merely misremembered.”
Yeah, because of the fact that memory failures occasionally occur in the world at large, including among witnesses at Libby’s trial, it therefore follows that Libby’s own specific memory claims must be plausible. I call bullshit.
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/w……html?8dpc
Pach — just forwarded a copy to the email addy I have for you on file.
I know you have a lot invested in this person, and I hope this works out for the best. But keep in mind that you can only do so much; the choice and responsibility for the outcome is ultimately up to your protege. As progressives we believe in providing opportunity to everyone — but as progressives, we believe we are all responsible, and that includes to ourselves and to our community.
Pach,
I too wish I could help. As I read your post I got the distinct “feeling” that this man will change because he really does want to change and have a better life.
I’m not sure why I felt that, but it came through very clearly to me.
I will keep good thoughts for him, and you, that he will get his second chance.
Rayne @ 24
Absolutely. I’m very acquainted and practiced with boundaries and expectations, but you’re also, as I hear you, looking out for me. Very personally: thank you!
Pach, Be sure and advise him against wearing yellow ties…)
Bless your good heart and great work, Pach.
Anyone who’s ever filled out a job application has come to that box that asks “Have you ever been convicted of a crime?” Even if saying “yes” isn’t an automatic “never mind” from the employer, it’s a big hurdle to get past.
Meanwhile, here in California, Gov Ahnold is now planning on out-sourcing some of the prison population to other states. The overcrowding in our prisons is tremendous, and it’s cheaper to send these inmates elsewhere rather than build, staff, and maintain new prisons here in CA. Of course, this means that those sent out of state are even farther from any kind of support system to keep them interested in working hard while in prison in order to make it on the outside when they are released. Where’s the sense in that?
An ounce of rehab is worth a pound of prison.
Thanks for posting this, Pach. I hope that something works out in Houston, and I’m glad you brought this to us here tonight.
Pach (26) — just reiterating to you what became a mantra to me during my brother’s roughest years. ;-)
It would have been easy to step in and intervene in my brother’s, but it would not have solved a thing and it would have deferred it. Once he got his chance, he had to make it on his own. Hurt like hell to watch, but in the end it unfolded as it should have, and just as he chose. Would spare you the pain if I could, but it can’t be done — and as a professional, you’re better armed than I was, thank goodness.
If you’re interested, below is a link to one of several stories written by Tito Valdez, a prisoner serrving 25 to life in California. He mostly writes about prison life, so it’s not strictly political.
http://theroguevoice.blogspot……-cage.html
Pach, thank you for caring and helping this lost soul and for most of all bringing it here. It gives us all hope to know that all is not corrupt and evil in this world. You are so special. So are all the others that are offering help. Who knows he may end up with a choice of possibilities. I only wish I had something to offer. I live in CA
Thanks for the kind words, everyone, but trust me I’m not engaging in false posturing when I say, I ain’t no saint.
On the one hand, it’s important for people to feel like there are role models out there, though I expect that, in reality, I’m a damned poor candidate. You’ll just have to take my word for it: I feel no current obligation to put my skeletons on display!
And on another front, I don’t want the focus to fall so much on me that the argument I make for the larger need to change the conversation about accountability, responsibility and redemption in our country gets lost in the shuffle.
/end speech.
And yes, Steve Earle so rocks!
I love that album.
Pach, seems to me you’re a good role model simply because you do care. I hope the young man finds his way. The penal system has, with the advent of the private prison system, given up any pretense at rehabilitation. Coupled with the Great War On Drugs over the last thirty years, its made quite a nice growth industry for some people.
Pachacutec @ 33
Putting a face to “an issue” is often the best way to humanize it, especially when you’re talking about a dehumanizing system built upon demonization. A society is only as strong as the amount of energy and effort it is willing to put into supporting those at its margins – and they don’t get much more marginalized that those in prison.
Don’t let this topic go, Pach – it’s something we need to talk about.
(And I’ll leave my skeletons in the closet too. They’ll only get in the way.)
Living in a huge death penalty state with the famous Sheriff Joe and his tent city with pink underwear… a Sheriff who has his own tank.
The criminal justice system in this country is broken. Why does America have the highest prison population in the world?
The combination of three things, war on drugs, privatization of prisons AND denial of voting rights to convicted felons.
My own personal experience was with my own son(18yrs) who had moved away from home, living hand to mouth and broke into a Subway store for food. This was in one of those hard nosed western states with a even harder ass store owner who wanted the book thrown at my kid. Felony robbery would of been 5 years of hard time.
Thankfully his sentencing PO saw the good kid inside and instead recommended Rehab & probation. It has been 10 years, he is a successful, married and a great daddy now. I am so glad that someone saw what I knew in my heart.
They took a chance and we all won. It is too bad that this attitude to “throw the book at them” is the major meme.
Support, Support, Support is the key.
Yeah, the “War on Drugs” was the biggie on the domestic front, the precursor to the “War on Terror” on the international – and now, also the domestic – front.
It’s all bullshit. Who profits?
We know, don’t we. All of it cooked up in right ring propganda factories like the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute.
Not in Houston; have no job to offer; nevertheless wanted to thank you, Pachacutec, for what you are doing for this young man. Most of the time we forget that MOST prisoners get released and, for our OWN sakes, if not theirs, it behooves us to lend a helping hand.
The United States has the highest prison population in the world. I need to do more learning and study of our penal culture
If you really want to get into it …
This (link below) is hair-raising, chilling, astounding, gobsmacking … add your own word if and when any of you may read the linked essay.
Written by someone who is not a conspiracy theory driven “dirty effing hippie”, but rather the ex-Managing Director of one of New York’s blue chip investment banks (Dillon. Read)and subsequently Ass’t Secretary of the USA’s HUD (Department of Housing and Urban Development), this long essay details how tobacco companies and the privatized prison system in the USA provides a convenient and hidden means of laundering large (and I mean large) amounts of the narcotics money flowing around the world.
The levels of connections and complicity are breathtaking.
I am astounded that the story, with the quotes, names, dates, places has been allowed to remain on the Intertubes. I would have thought one of the many high-profile people she has named (including Gore, Lou Gerstner, Nick Brady, etc.) would have sued for libel. That she has not been sued speaks volumes.
“Dillon, Read & Co. Inc and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits”
You may never view mainstream business (at least in the USA) the same way again if you make it to the end of this story.
It needs someone to fix up the master narrative, though.
In other words, there’s a reason why the prison population is so high, and the execs of the investment and merchant banks that helped with the privatizations and IPO’s, and the politicians to whom they contribute, know why that is … it’s a prop for the businesses they want in place.
*xyz @
23
I’d recommend that you not even bother with the MSM coverage of the trial at this point. The most intriguing thing right now is Libby’s grand jury testimony. Why don’t his lawyers want the public to see it?
Private armies.
Private prisons.
No right of habeus corpus.
Hmmmm…
msauna @ 43
Bad things happen when Republicans are given power-what can I say?
Note on link: Your World O’ Crap link leads to the old WOC site. The new site is
http://world-o-crap.com/blog/
I don’t mean to suggest exposing specific skeletons is a good idea but acknowledgement of old bones from folks who have successfully moved on is very important and qualifies one to speak up even more so, imo.
katymine – I couldn’t agree more with your point about the drug war and denial of voting rights. I would like to see reliable data in regard to privatization and before it was initiated (I am curious). Please don’t misunderstand me, I am against private jails, prisons, half way houses, etc. No good can come from corporations who as we all know are not accountable for so much these days. For that matter I am also against those who use religious conversion as persuasion for better treatment.
In California, something like 70% of prisoners are in for drugs. Yes, not murder, beating people up, kidnapping, etc. Drugs! And I just heard this week that there are SO many prisoners, they can’t keep up with building new prisons — and are going to ship CA prisoners to Mississippi.
This country is so off track, it is amazing. To start off with, how about not imprisoning folks for victimless crimes — like prostitution, drug USE (not selling or driving while on them, etc.), gambling. You know? Where there are no VICTIMS. There would be plenty of room in prisons for REAL bad guys.
I’m off to bed, gang.
I know it’s not a sexy topic, and not our usual pithy, funky late nite fare, but sometimes the posts choose you, rather than the other way around. Know what I mean?
Thanks for all the great comments. I’m looking forward to catching up in the morning.
Rushton @ 44
Yeah, given by the court not the people. How convenient!
g’nite Pach, thanks for sharing your acts of kindness.
No one said that saving the world would be easy. But we’re working together now, and the burden will be lighter as we go along.
Sunday Morning Preview
Relax. Enjoy.
Pac,
God bless you for trying to help a kid out. Once a person goes into the AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL PRISON COMPLEX it’s hard to get out given that so many folks make a living off of it.
NO MONEY FOR SCHOOLS, WE NEED IT FOR PRISONS!
Excellent post Pach and I have no doubt that the right people will step up to help. Regarding the larger issue, we have other injustices to confront besides the rich/poor disparity of justice….ask Martha Stewart about that one.
The power assumed by the government to use prosecution as a political tool has grown tremendously since 9/11. Part of the enabling is done by the TM/MSM but their goal is more similar to the prison privatization motive – profits.
Why hasn’t the legal community done a better job of defending the integrity of the law since 9/11? Very few have spoken out against the insanity of many of the so called “war on terror” prosecution victims.
Privatization… means services provided by Government agencies is outsourced to a private contractor AND they plan to make a profit which the Government agency didn’t need to do.
So for More money, so that private company can make its 25% profit without ANY oversight. Nice way to run a business. No oversight, who sets the rules, who says inmate A committed a crime while in their prison so that inmate can never get out alive. So we taxpayers are paying for a private company to lock up Americans forever.
katymine @ 54
That’s right. And the ones that do get out have mostly just been warehoused. You can be sure that the percentage of returnees to the system is part of someone’s long range forecast.
Pach,
More power to you and to the man you’re helping.
He has paid the price for his crime and he needs help. I hope to God he gets it…you’re a lifeline! Some angel put you there, all those years ago.
I used to talk to a guy on a political debate forum who was a prison guard in Texas. I’ll drop him a line; he’s at least in Texas and might know of some jobs.
Still, through his experiences, I’ve gained a window into how difficult we make it to get access to those resources, how much our prison systems are rigged for harsh punishment over any chance at rehabilitation. This is especially true after release: there are very few, meagerly funded transitional programs swamped by waiting lists serving ex-offenders. No one gets elected by helping them…
Written as only a true progressive who has experienced how poorly our approach to “corrections” functions. “Puniishment” overwhelmed “rehabilitation” as an operative concept in Alaska in the early 1990s. It preceded the takeover of our legislature by the far right by at least three years, though. Democrats came under more and more pressure from Reaganesque ideals during that six-year transitional period between 1988 and 1994.
Observing that cynical transition in politics and correctional policy while I was a correctional administrator was the saddest work experience of my adult life.
Good luck continuing to help your friend, Pach. Nothing like seeing somebody you helped through that scary world succeed to make a contribution.
Shell @ 47
California also has an absurdly high rate of returning non-violent offenders to prison for non-violent parole “violations”. Saner states don’t send parolees back for administrative crap: in California, it’s an industry.
California prison guards make well over 100K (up to 187K) with overtime: their union is the second biggest donor in California state politics.
msauna @ 55
Katymine,
Privatized companies offering correctional services began to expand rapidly from the mid-80s through the mid-90s. But most of those companies offered treatment alternatives for people such as Pach described as part of their contracting packages to run an overall program for municipal, state and federal contracts. The bid specs during that time changed from treatment-oriented contract RFPs to punishment and confinement-oriented RFPs.
Pach alludes to fundamentalist orgs offering help to offenders – and the price they exact for the help. But I see the rise in fundamentalist office holders to be key in the changing mood in corrections and rehabilitation toward punishment.
Oh, and the California prison system. Look at the amounts of overtime the guards are paid in CA. HUGE. Guards there are making $100,000 , some of them.
link
And why does California have a 70% recidivism rate?
” About 70% of all California parolees end up back
in prison within 18 months of their release — a failure rate more than twice the national average. Such high recidivism is a huge factor in the cost of
running the state’s $7.3-billion correctional system — to say nothing of the harm done to new crime victims. “
link
Pachacutec: What you have written really makes me think. Especially about the dereliction of duty of people on the left towards prisoners. I work in a prison as an educator, and people say things to me like, “Why do you want to be involved with those men when you have a nice life and could do more pleasant things?”
What I reply is, “They’re real.” And I care about them, even the ones who have done awful things. Why? Because they are human.
The state where I live, Hawaii, just passed a “three strikes” law, modeled after the one in California, which I fear will cause our prison population to soar. There is little or no excuse for all this, since we have a low crime rate, besides which time has shown that, “three strikes” has not reduced crime in California.
Everyone should see the film produced by Michael Moore, “The Legacy: Murder, Media, Politics and Prison,” about the history of the “three strikes” initiative. The real winners here were the politicians, construction firms, and corrections workers’ unions.
I could say plenty more. Several books worth.
Ed*ard Teller @ 57
Somehow, “Reaganesque ideals” strikes me as an oxymoron, particularly in this context.
The rest of the country seems to have gone through a similar transition at about that same time. I remember in the ’80s how it suddenly wasn’t politically correct (in the old Soviet-era sense of the term) to talk about rehabilitating people in prison. Folks acted like the people who were recidivists were the norm, instead of the exception.
I think it’s still true, as it was then, that most crime was caused by a relatively small proportion of the prison population. Keeping the repeaters in and everyone else out of the system as much as is safe seemed like a much better way than the one we chose. Like katymine’s son, many inmates really do reform if they’re given any chance. Each one who does saves us a whole lot of money in incarceration, court costs, and opportunity loss due to their not contributing to society if they’re in jail.
Maybe it doesn’t show, but I find this situation incredibly annoying. We seem to have found one of the stupidest ways of dealing with this problem and thrown an incredible amount of effort and money into it.
rumi @ 59
This reminds me so much of what’s happened in DoD over the last couple of decades that it’s depressing. How could we let this stuff happen? The government is being run for a very few people’s benefit, and the rest of us are just along for the ride.
Well, I’m depressed, and everyone else is gone. Goodnight, all.
Cujo359 @ 64
We can’t even discuss the DoD problems let alone fix them. Our tax money is given to private companies, with little accountability for cost, to develop and run possibly illegal surveillance programs on citizens. The politicians-companies-lobbies are so tight that one of the three succeeds in thwarting any investigation.
…yeah, it’s mightily depressing.
AmericaBLOG’s John Aravosis interviewed Gen. Wesley Clark at the DNC winter meeting on February 2, 2007 in Washington, DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRy4NMM5GGg
Pach — You may not be a saint. Few of us are. But you are definitely a compassionate and caring human being. Who knows whether your “pen-pal” will succeed on the outside, but your reaching out to (and for) him will certainly help.
Bless you. And him.
If you’re studying prison reform, you might want to take a look at this book, just out a few months: Beyond Prisons: A New Interfaith Paradigm for Our Failed Prison System, by Laura Magnani and Harmon Wray. It comes from the American Friends Service Committee, a group guided by Quaker principles, and of course Quakers have been actively involved in prison reform for a couple hundred years or so.
I can’t vouch for the academic rigor of the book, but from what I’ve heard it covers the main bases and is good for getting discussion rolling.
The privitization of prisons does make me worry quite a bit. There is an enormous potential for abuse in the name of profit, and the corporatization of the State is troublesome. I worked at a private prison that also doubles as a drug/alcohol treatment facility and halfway house–it’s a transitional place. I found the social workers who dealt with the population to be admirable, and their work worthy. They even seemed to be effective in keeping people employed and out of prison.
The structuration of the private prison enterprise is what’s most worrysome. You basically have wealthy white people investing in “beds” and housing for black people, and they make money from State grants and also, significantly, by deducting money from prisoners’ paychecks. It’s like slavery with middlemen.
radlib1 @ 67
Amen
You shame all the so-called Christians of the Religious Right who claim to speak for God. I do not wish to be uncharitable, but I sometimes wonder what Jerry Fallwell and his ilk will say to St. Peter when asked to account for themselves. Pach, you are doing more of Christ’s work with this one person than any of these “Men of God” will ever do in their lifeimes.
You, as well as all the FDL people, are a constant reminder to me that I can do better. Christy, Jane, Pach, Marcy, RevDeb,TRex, and everyone else, you are an inspiration And for that I thank you all. And God bless.
Restorative justice is a different approach that tries to restore balance to the ecosystem — rather than trying to just punish the perpetrator.
Van Jones has done a lot of great work in this area, and I have a 20-minute interview with him asking him about alternative justice paradigms here.
So many thoughts, many of them sad and frustrated at the state of things.
And somehow this society is reminding more and more of those very early 1930s black and white movies depicting the America of the Great Depression. The struggle to survive. The vast majority of the population suffering, while there was still an elite remaining at the top who always seemed to get a better class of “justice” than everyone else.
And then there was the plethora of prison movies! Those are the ones which came to mind when reading this post. About guys down on their luck who got caught up unfairly, or guys who figured they’d do whatever it took to survive and got snagged running rum during the “war on drugs” of the time called “Prohibition.” And there were the mean ones in prison, who sought to exploit what they could for themselves, in spite of incarceration. Everybody everywhere knowing the game sure seemed rigged.
Social Darwinism on parade! And many of the characters became “anti-social” and “hardened” in that dog-eat-dog world.
Sigh.
If history repeats itself, if the economy finally goes completely off a cliff — will we see a new generation of prison movies? About the injustice of it all?
Pachacutec — bless you, and good luck, both to you and the fellow you’re helping. I’ll be saying prayers for both of you. Wish I were in a position to help with more than prayers, though.
Pachacutec @ 14
No, Pachacutec, my thanks to you.
I visit here and at Kos occasionally and have often wondered why I haven’t seen this topic more often. I know a lot has been going on the last few years just trying to get these sites up, going and vital. That work is done and now the really hard work begins. The work of achieving true social justice for everyone.
I wish your friend the absolute best of luck and it’s apparent already there are people lining up to help him. My best to you all.
I have to wonder, though, what the response would have been if Pach’s friend were a sex-offender. I wonder if the people would have been as eager to offer help. If there would have been a warm response, or the more typical response I’ve seen most places, even here and at Kos. Invective and revulsion.
I’m a sex-offender myself although I rarely discuss it and I’m certain most of you can understand why. I’ve been out of prison for 15 years and have finished school and have worked for two fortune 500 companies, the first for five years and the second for three years now. I have a decent job and make a fair income, pay my bills and even donate a bit here and there to worthy candidates and even to most pleas for money here.
I was locked up for five years and I won’t go into details what for but I saw to it my victim never had to go court. It meant pleading guilty (which I was, but not for what I was charged with) and being sentenced on a first degree felony but it was worth it to not have the boy further victimized by the system, which any reasonable person knows can happen.
I had counseling the entire time, 7 years total. I learned a lot about myself. I think I am about as low risk as they come but still I have fears. Fear that one say someone will knock on my door and shoot me after finding my name on a register. Or that I will be evicted from my apartment. It’s happened before. Or that I will have to quit my job. Not because my employer discovers I am a sex-offender, they know. I worry more about my co-workers and what it would be like if they knew they were working side by side every day with what most of them would consider to be a *monster* regardless of the details.
Sex-offenders are pretty much painted with the same broad brush no matter the details. 1 victim or 100. Statistics are thrown about in the media and repeated without consideration for their accuracy. The number one being, sex-offenders have the highest rate of recidivism of any criminals, when in fact it’s actually the lowest. The data is out there and maybe one day when I can get everything lined up I’ll write my own diary about it.
I just felt compelled to write today and I am sure I could have done a better job of it but this will just have to do for now. One more point I’d like to make is that there are more and more laws being enacted on the federal level and in virtually every state that each and every one of us should be concerned about whether or not your are a sex-offender or know one. These laws are leading to the ghettoization and alienation of a huge segment of our society, many of whom, even though they have committed serious crimes, have also availed themselves (as did Pach’s friend) of every chance at education, counseling and rehabilitation and yet are often mentioned in the same sentence as terrorists. Ashcroft did so himself in a speech defending the Patriot act.
I do know that some who have broken sexual laws have indeed committed heinous and even terroristic acts but the reality is that most, a vast majority of sexual offenders, can be treated and live safely in society. You just wouldn’t know it from reading the newspapers or watching the television, or even sometimes visiting FDL or Kos.
Mornin’ all!
G’morning all. I wonder if I’m the only one up this fine Sunday morning, with a very large cat on my lap whilst trying to type.
I wish I could contribute to this particular thread but have nothing to share other than I have special concerns about relatively harmless people landing in jail, such as the mentally ill. There used to be more treatment out there – perhaps your friend, had he been so motivated, could have received some kind of counseling to help him deal with whatever it was that drove him to do what he did. And he might not be where he is today had affordable assistance been available to someone in his position.
But, needless to say, our elected officials are more concerned with the tender feelings and neediness of our vulnerable little corporations which need so much support, financial and emotional (propagandizement), to survive, the poor, dear, unfortunate things. And, when they break the law, as your friend has done, we must tenderly nurture their psychoses by either looking the other way or imposing fines as opposed to punishing them and making them face the consequences of their actions as individual human beings, such as your friend, has had to do.
They are fragile, embryonic creatures whose continued growth must not be checked for fear we might inhibit their “creative” abilities to make money hand over fist. These talents must be fostered in the most generous fashion by our tax dollars lest they perish, perish I say, under the crushing weight of laws and regulations.
Again, our elected officials have the wisdom to see the social benefits of having individual citizens pay for violating the law, while the legal obligations of their corporate mistresses remain unchecked since such burdens might inhibit their ability to make money. The hypocrisy of this is to be tolerated, since the end result is . . . wait for it . . . “creating more jobs!”
I know it’s true because all the pundits and also the NY Times say so.
Jeralyn–
For the future of our immigration policy, if left to Tom Tancredo and his ilkbtake a look at the newly released film Children of Men. It’s stunning.
Skanking1 @
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Whoops–
I wrote Jeralyn when I meant Pachacutec .
Good morning, pups. The sky is actually blue this morning!
In the NYT we have David Brooks (sigh), although based on a course he taught at Duke he sees trouble ahead for the Republican party, Nicholas Kristof brings us some reader comments on who’s who in the administration (Dick Cheney as Lord Voldemort works for me), and Frank Rich explains Lord Voldemort’s melt-down on CNN.
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Having filled the bird feeders yesterday it seems they’re going to need filling again today — it looks like every red winged blackbird on the east coast is in my back yard.
DISCLAIMER: I am a criminal defense lawyer.
It costs less to send a kid to college than it does to send a kid to prison. When he gets out of college, he can be an asset to the community; when he gets out of prison, he’s going to have a hard time finding ANY job, much less a decent job at a living wage. And who will be there to commiserate with him? Yep, the rest of the ex-felons, who make their living as burglars, copper thieves, meth cooks, drug dealers, etc.
I always ask prosecutors how the community benefits from their insistence on a felony conviction. I haven’t heard a good answer yet.
I spend a large portion of my working week meeting with, talking to, learning about “criminals.” And for the most part, they aren’t any different from a lot of my friends and neighbors. They aren’t career criminals, just men and women who made a bad decision. (Or, in many cases, they have an untreated mental illness, a legacy from the Reagan administration’s meat-axe approach to mental health services) Unfortunately, that decision, often made in a split second of poor judgment, grows to define their entire lives. And the Pharisees, all of whom have made equally egregious decisions without getting caught, want a pound of flesh, so that they can solidify their position as sans peur et sans reproche.
I hire former clients whenever I have a chance, for remodeling projects, cutting firewood, miscellaneous shit around the homestead, but that’s just a drop in the bucket. The need for reform is great; the resources needed will be significant. Only when communities realize that these birds are coming home to roost, rehabilitated or not, will people value programs that make the transition easier, and in turn, make their communities safer.
Pach,
I hope you check back at this thread. Prisoner reentry is a critical issue in lots of urban communities. I work in Newark, NJ, and the new mayor Cory Booker has identified reentry as one of his top priorities. Lots of the nonprofits are stepping up to offer jobs and support. But there’s no industrial base any more, only service-sector, minimum-wage jobs. Our criminal justice system has evolved into a means of controlling young African American and Latino men, who when they emerge from incarceration have nowhere to go, no jobs, no social support system.
Good Morning, Firepups,
Sunny and very cold, with stiff breezes from the north west. Stay warm, starting with a big pot of coffee [French Roast with a touch of French Vanilla]. I’m going for bagels–what do you want?
Work for peace every day.
I need some help please. A commenter at my blog really needs to know he’s not alone right now. Please read and then light a candle to let him know he’s in people’s thoughts/prayers. I don’t know hiom that well, but I know people who do and am going to try to get in touch with them.
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The reason we have a big problem in jails is in large part because the media (including the blogosphere) refuse to talk seriously about ending the war on drugs. Everyone knows that prohibition is stupid. Everyone knows the system is completely racist and corrupts everyone who touches it. Everyone knows it’s a bullshit system set up so that fat rich white assholes who run private prisons, rehab centers, (and probably have links to the poppy fields a la A Scanner Darkly) can put inconvienent brown people in jail while making money to finance covert ops against other inconvienent brown people that are hard to fund legitimately, and no one talks about it.
There are hundreds of thousands of people in jail right now for very minor drug crimes. Most drug distribution occurs through informal networks of friends, where people will pool money to buy in bulk, or get a decent size bag and then sell half of it to a friend. These aren’t people making a lot of money. These are low level people who got busted and had no one to give up or didn’t know anyone criminal enough to make a plea with, or who couldn’t afford competent legal representation.
I hope your friend gets out of the prison system, but until I see more people with soapboxes like the ones at firedoglake and kos actually talking about the root of the problem with the prison system, the war on drugs, with the same amount of articulate compassion and righteous outrage they bring to other social justice issues, I have to say that they are part of the problem. There are black people in texas who have been in jail for over 20 years because racist white police claim to have found less then a joints worth of pot on them. There are hundreds of thousands of people in jail for possession of minor amounts of drugs. None of these people deserve what is happening to them. But no one in politics will even talk about it. Again, I hope your friend gets out of the cycle, but there are many many people who have it a lot worse for doing a lot less, and many people who write here, and at other places like kos, are completely ignorant or complacent about it.
We keep over 2.2 million people in prison, the vast majority are in for victimless drug related “crimes”. We imprison more people than the population of several countries and the prison industrial complex is yet another one of those cash cows for corporate america sucking at the taxpayers tit.
There is no quity and justice in this nation. It’s all talk and BS. Ask any dark skinned person in NYC or america for that matter.
It’s the new slavery…
This country’s mindset on punishment rather than rehabilitation is obscene but profitable for too many. I’ve seen secondhand in Texas how parolees are forced to live and work.
Rumi @ 53, Martha Stewart (a successful woman ripe for the picking) became the poster child for corporate crime. Since her trial and conviction, I am skeptical of all evidence presented by prosecutors in Federal court; particularly, notes and memories of FBI agents used to convict. Ms. Stewart’s trial never received the scrutiny it should have had because it was much more sensational to demonize her. I realize I am in a minority but I am more interested in justice than in slapping down a woman who made it big in this man’s world.
The Architects and Designs Professionals for Social Responsibility (ADPSR) began a compaign to example the construction of prisons and the warehousing of humans. They done some very good studies about this tragedy… but changing the mindset is a big battle. Too many people are getting rich from this and fear is what enables it all.
Sally (86) — will agree with you about the Martha Stewart case. The media crucified her about a crime for which she was not prosecuted or sentenced. In the time that it took to investigate her, prosecute her and for her to serve her sentence, all the Enron thugs were out walking around scott-free, although guilty of crimes that hurt Enron employees and retirees and millions of energy customers, as well as the general financial market place.
Pays to be a well-to-do white man.
Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as promised that she and the Democratic leadership will obstruct and “embargo” any effort to reform America’s Jim Crow drug war, that has given America its world record prison population, for the political expedience of keeping drug reform out ot he 2008 presidential election.
Political expedience by Pelosi and the Jim Crow Democrat presidential contenders will condemn tens of thousands to prisons, electoral disenfranchisement and/or addiction in the next two years before the 2008 election.
Nancy Pelosi imposes Jim Crow status quo in congress
We’re pretty close to facism in america… too many lawyers are interested in big fees from the corporate and financial sector and could care less about justice.
This is a laudable effort; bolstering each other out of bad circumstances is an essential element of living a compassionate, full life.
That said, I have to mention because it’s weighing heavy on my heart after reading everyone’s comments…Unless you’ve been personally impacted by a felonious act, it’s difficult to fully appreciate our system of justice, but it’s certainly easier to talk about it in black and white terms. Yes, there are certainly flaws that can and should be corrected, and there are merits in much of what’s been said. But it bears remembering that the system serves the victims as well as the criminals — a viewpoint that seems lost in this discussion.
Rayne @ 88
A case in poinst: Bush did the same thing she did in the 80’s when he dumped his own company’s stock before it went under.
Creating the American prison gulag has nothing to do with profits. That is the simple answer.
The prison population exists and grows in America because that is how the Jim Crow right-wing, that controls both Democrats and Republicans, controls American democracy with gerrymandering and apportionment subversion that are facilitated by the high prison populations. Populations of urban minorities sent to rural white run prisons where they have no vote but are counted for apportionment as being in tose white districts.
The invidious economics of Jim Crow
And: Pennsylvania -democracy incarcerated-
Here in Pennsylvania the state constitution very clearly states:
“Elections shall be free and equal, and no power, civil or military, shall at any time interfere to prevent the free exercise of the right of suffrage.”
But some fifty thousand, mostly minority, citizens are electorally disenfranchised because they are in prison here. this takes bodies out of the apportionment counts for the cities while artificially inflating the apportionment of rural mostly white districts.
Democrat Nancy Pelosi will not allow anyone to change this before the 2008 presidential election. this, even though prison populations in highly contested states like Florida have easily made the difference in the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. In Bush’s favor.
If there’s any way I can help from Fayetteville, NC, let me know.
While I was going to college I taught Russian, and helped teach English Literature, in Greenhaven Prison – a maximum-security prison in NY, for about 3 years.
A lot of inmates were well read. The only thing was that they only read materials that reinforced their own views. The toughtest thing in teaching the inmates was to get them to to listen to other points of view. That took some time. But, it was one of the best experiences of my life. Those prisoners who got a degree had very low rates of recidivism. Why? They had learned skills that could help them cope in the real world. The program that I participated in no longer exists in NY State. It died in the early years of the Reagan Administration (surpise!).
We are great at throwing peopole into prison. We don’t do anything anymore to help them cope when they get out.
People make mistakes. There, but for the grace of God, go I. I’ve done some stupid things in my youth that I could have gone to prison for. Many of us did. We had one thing on our side – LUCK!
We are no longer a country that forgives. We are a country that punishes.
We are closer to becoming China, North Korea, and Iran, than the Western European countries.
America has lost its soul. We need to work hard to get it back.
South Orange County Democrat — I’ll have to disagree with you and say no, the system does not do that, either. It only assumes a nominal default position with the victims. It does damned little to prevent future victims, or re-victimization of past victims, and frightfully little to help victims of violent crimes heal their wounds mentally and physically.
And the subject here was mainstreaming, how to reincorporate the punished back into our society so that they become a constructive, tax-paying citizen. If we don’t find a more effective way to do this, we are only encouraging recidivism by sending a message that these now-punished persons are disposable.
Rayne and Sally: I think Looseheadprop said they did not want to prosecute Stewart, but that her attorney screwed her chances by trying to throw his weight around with the prosecutors (I know your boss’s boss and so…) and it backfired. Apparently at that point having stuck a finger in their eye, they felt they had to proceed. I really don’t feel sorry for her any more than I do Libby. Neither one are being prosecuted for the actual crimes, but they both engaged in actions that hurt people with less power – Stewart got an inside tip to save her investment, and Libby…only the tip of the iceberg for his role in outing Plame/smearing Wilson…He ought to be tried for war crimes.
c u n d gulag — you hit upon one of the factors that was key to my own brother’s turn-around. He was half-way through his college degree program when he got derailed by his accident. While in prison, he realized that more than 80% of the population serving with him could not read. Once he made this connection, he told himself that he did not belong there (by which I don’t mean he didn’t deserve his punishment, only that he didn’t fit the pattern). He spent the short time he served teaching other inmates to read or to read better. And then he got out and went to college while working full-time.
What happened to the rest of the inmates? Does anybody care?
That’s another factor, too; a friend’s brother ended up in jail because of his alcoholism, caught driving DUI too many times. He realized while serving that a substantive majority of people in there did not have family.
What happened to these inmates? Obviously nobody was there to care — but should their future victims have cared?
Go Bears — the person that Martha Stewart hurt the most was herself; she owned the largest chunk of her company’s stock.
And I say this as an MSO stockholder; I’ve held it for quite a long time, since before she was charged.
You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think what Martha did isn’t done every day over lunch or golf in the most prestigious country clubs in America. They made an example of her, in part because of reasons you mentioned.
And in part because the circus that was her trial and prosecution kept the public eye off the other enormous scams going on at the same time: Global Crossing, Enron, Adelphia, Tyco and more. Martha was a dustmote in comparison to the size of these scandals, and yet the coverage she received drowned out the press on these other suits.
kirk murphy @ 58
100% correct. And I know. I used to contract for a firm creating a computer system for the prisons. The “users” were the prison guards. They would actually whine when they “only” made 90K a year. And that was 10 years ago!
happy monkey @ 73
I think you’ve touched a real nerve with this one, and what you’ve written is quite well put. It’s very much on topic. Knowing what you’ve just said made me rather uncomfortable with some, but not all, that had been written about Mark Foley. Those who argued as if it were a virtual certainty that he was a serial child rapist, no matter what facts came out, were operating, in my view, from a flawed set of assumptions, assumptions that I try to point out in this post.
This is not to say Foley was admirable or had not done wrong, but when the whiff of sex offense or related pathology comes up, people get all monochromatic in their thinking and, in my view, frankly lose their heads. It’s possible to work to protect children without forgetting the humanity of offenders, and without painting all offenders with the same brush.
Thanks for your comment. I admire what you did by pleading guilty and taking full responsibility for your life and your actions, working to get your own house in order. This is the right and admirable response. Good for you, and welcome to the community.
The prison based drug rehab is a good example of how the American criminal justice system is actually designed to create and neglect crime victims.
There is very little drug rehab in America for indigent addicts. These are the people who commit most of the street crime in America. They are offered rehab but only in prison. So the admission price for drug rehab then becomes a string of innocent crime victims until the addict is jailed. If the addict is a drug dealer the admission price to prison rehab is a string of new addicts in the community to subsidize that addict until they are busted.
Either way the prison based drug rehab actually serves to increase crime.
Rayne,
I’m glad your brother was able to lift himself up. Other’s can’t. And that’s my prolem with America right now. Ever since the first cowboy President, we pile-on on top of the defenceless, the helpless, the cunfused, the ignorant, the addicted, etc.
Yes, maybe many of these people should be in the prison’s that they are in. But, for those not serving life-sentences, can’t we do anything to help them acquire life skills? Even those with life-sentences. Cant we, as a country try to do something to educate and better them, too?
I guess not.
I’m against the death-penalty. I’m against sending kids to prison for small, stupid drug charges. The Rockefeller laws that NY State has are draconian. The laws in many other states are draconian, too.
And just like the obsession with choice, people do everything to make sure that that child stays in there; nobody gives a shit after they come out.
Wecome to the America of our times. Let’s do what we can to change it. I’m one of the MC’s at the Fayettteville, NC anti-war raly on March 17th. I’d love to see some of you there.
We are home to Fort Bragg and Pope Airforece base. We see these brave kids leave, and we see them when they come back. If that doesn’t break your heart, you have a kevlar heart – like those in the present adminstration.
Back to the prison’s. We need to make our state government’s takwe up the slack, since the Federal one is useless – except for profit’s for the already profitable, and war’s for profiteer’s.
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“The New York Times in a January 25 editorial (“Closing the Revolving Door”) talks of the “heavy price” we’re paying for mandatory sentencing, begun some three decades ago. The piece identifies some of the obvious costs: we’re shelling out $60 billion a year for corrections, and shuttering schools as new prisons open. And we’ve created a burgeoning “felon caste,” with over “16 million…felons and ex-felons, who are often driven back to prison by policies that make it impossible for them to find jobs, housing or education.”
Sally @
86
Yeah, I agree. Thanks for elaborating in a way that I should have. My point was that wealth and power alone are not a guarantee that prosecution and punishment can be avoided OR that it can always be used to achieve justice. The original post presented the disparity of “justice” based on wealth and power.
Ken Lay avoided justice by dying when he did and he truly gamed the system if he didn’t.
Go Bears @ 96, well, I followed the Stewart case closely and never heard the excuse about her attorney and don’t believe it for a second.
The judge let the prosecutor try Stewart as though she was guilty of insider trading, which she was not indicted for. The Defense repeatedly argued against that but the judge let it go forward, saying she would address it in her instructions to the jury. She did not.
One of the jurors had a criminal record but lied about it in writing. That was o.k. with the judge.
It was established the FBI agent who testified for the prosecution lied when he said he performed the ink tests on the smoking gun. He was tried and acquitted.
The questions and answers between the notes and memories of the FBI agents were different from those of the defense.
One of the two Republican representatives who sent the SEC after Stewart was legislating on drug prices and left his elected office to work for the drug industry at a salary over $1,000,000.
In addition to being a successful woman, Ms. Stewart donated to Democratic office seekers AND politely declined to appear before the above rep’s committee, thus precluding him from using her appearance for political hay.
Sally – thanks for all of the interesting details and insight.
The Republican Death Cult wants more and more blood. This from the WSJ of all places.
http://online.wsj.com/public/a…..?mod=blogs
“Today, there are 47 people on federal death row — more than double the number six years ago — and Mr. Wilson this week became the seventh sentenced in a state without a death statute of its own since the federal death penalty was reinstated in 1988. The ranks may grow in the months ahead, with several capital cases on tap in locales traditionally opposed to the death penalty.”
Thanks to virtuous xian John Asscroft,
“Congress in 1986 began expanding federal jurisdiction to crimes that traditionally had been prosecuted by states — imposing mandatory minimum sentences in crack cocaine cases, for example — and two years later expanded federal reach into capital cases. Still, it took 14 years before federal prosecutors under then-Attorney General John Ashcroft managed to obtain capital convictions in jurisdictions that didn’t have the death penalty at the local level.”
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Gee one simple thing I did street combat South Bronx as a tall 1st generation Irish cop 1965-70 .Dear God we never forgot the black and Hispanic folk there we were so close to them Yes some cops way to close to the mommies and chicks .But we learned you just hadda take care of the black and Hispanic mommies and their needs . So boom we helped deliver their babies ,rushed their so sick babies to the hospital in a patrol car giving mouth to mouth to a little baby .Yes me and my partner saved most babies but yes lost a little baby in my arms too and that still hurts me .So do not think New York City cops do not appreciate justice for the poor I did .I still feel for the little South Bronx babies who died in my arms . God Love .
John
Hey, thanks for posting the Steve Earle clip – this reminded me it was the song at the end of Season Two of The Wire. Cool stuff. Very, very cool…
VA @
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EXACTLY! Pach, while I don’t live near Houston and can’t really offer any help to your friend, I want you to know that many of us are fighting this “good fight” right along with you.
As an educator, I chose to work in schools located in poor communities because that informed my reason for becoming an educator in the first place.
After working in decrepit buildings with little or no resources available for many years, I got so tired of hearing that there was no money available to fix the crumbling buildings, invest in the communities, and provide the needed resources to help these children and their families succeed.
I have worked to fight the privatization of public education for many years, for the very reasons quoted above. Make no mistake, the privatized schools are primarily for the poor and people of color, and they resemble too closely, for my comfort, the industrial prison complex.
None of the private, for-profit companies hired to run public schools (all big Republican donors, by the way) in the inner cities offer the rich, well-rounded opportunities that their wealthier, usually white public school counterparts do. Rather, they nearly always focus on a basic, “traditional” approach to education that is based on the factory-worker-preparation model of the late 19th/early 20th centuries.
No Child Left Behindwas merely a complicated plan designed to make public education look out of date and a failure to the American public and to ease the way into privatizing schools, making billions of dollars available, for the first time, to private, for-profit companies.
Moneys formally used to provide tutoring, supplies, smaller classes, etc. is now funneled to private enterprises who offer after-school tutoring to children, often with tutors who have no formal training, degrees, or licensing in teaching. The kids are not expected to excel but rather justify profits and provide political cover for those who wish to claim they are “tackling” the poor/color problems without actually doing anything worthwhile.
I won’t go on with my rant other than to say that the privatization of prisons, the defense industry, and the schools are all cut from the same profit-making greed of the Republican cloth and there is no doubt it is class and race based and designed from inception to maintain a social/racial hierarchy in this country.
Thanks so much for caring about another human being; I know how painful and challenging it is to invest your hopes and dreams in people who lack the basic social tools to make their lives work in our country — I too have devoted my life to it. We so much need to do as you say Pach, and take the lead in bringing this discussion to the table and initiating reform.
Hey caught three bad gunbattles South Bronx 1969-70 . So been there and yes got four degrees including a post grad, Am a old time pre neo Zionist conservative and one of the first New York State Conservative Party Committeemen . So on most things differ with you liberal women but agree totally with you about Bush and Cheney .Must comment I admire and cherish your keen intellects and yes drive .And yes Jane you are a sharp woman not only cognitively but culturally .And yes you look so pretty ( Smile ) too . God Love.
John
Everyone knows it’s a bullshit system set up so that fat rich white assholes who run private prisons, rehab centers, (and probably have links to the poppy fields a la A Scanner Darkly) can put inconvienent brown people in jail while making money to finance covert ops against other inconvienent brown people that are hard to fund legitimately,
Read the story “Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits” (also linked above.
The levels of explicit complicity by your government are staggering. It should be front-page news (well, lots of other stuff should be too).
Chris @
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I was flipping through channels sometime in the middle of the night and found an episode on BET from (I think) the first year. Bubs and a bud were scamming a construction guy by faking a pedestrian hit by the truck. While the guy was busy checking the (non)injured dude on the ground, Bubs makes off with 47 joints of copper pipe out of the back of the truck. He finally sold it for a fraction of retail to another contractor but had plans to go back and get it after the drywall was up to sell it again .
Come to think of it now, wasn’t there an episode where Bubs and a boy were dragging off an aluminum utility pole that coincided with a real life incident that happened in Philadelphia?
…excellent music, too.
I used to teach in max security prisons for men for about 10 years. My family and I have been volunteers at Indiana State Prison for almost 30 years now. In 2004, I published a book entitled Conversations, in which around two dozen inmates of ISP write about themselves and their experiences with education. By the way, we have one of our guys in Crown Point who was just released. He’s a licensed barber and a haz-mat worker. If anyone wants to offer a job in Crown Point, let me know. Isn’t it time for a web page for ex-cons and their supporters?
Drug Busts=Jim Crow by Ira Glasser
“Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other members of the Democratic leadership have effectively embargoed major crime or drug policy legislation for the next two years, to avoid looking soft on crime in the 2008 election.” A Change in the Weather The Los Angeles City Beat, 02-01-07
for Jim Corw Democrats politics trumps policy.
wow pach – that is just so right what ure doing! i hope the fellow appreciates that ure there for him and will use the oppprtunity to do his absolute best! props to you man! good luck to the person as well.
Rumi @ 106, you’re welcome. And Mr. Comey had a big role in setting Martha up for punishment and in publicizing it all. After the trial, the female lead prosecutor took a job with a high-powered firm and Mr. Comey went on to better (more monetarily rewarding) things. Sheesh.
Pachacutec @ 16
I respect what you’re doing Pach… the guy is lucky he has your support. Thanks for NOT labeling him. Calling him an ex-con is an additional negative that he doesn’t need hanging over his head.
He’s a guy who made a mistake and, with support and guidance from people who care, he can work his way back into a normal life. Is there such a thing as a normal life in this sick world we live in? I doubt it, but I will send him positive energy when he pops into my thoughts.
Please keep us informed.
http://www.unicor.gov/
Continuation of a program of slave labor?
victoria2dc @
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This thread will close in another day, but my soon to be released friend will likely read it upon release, and may even stop by himself in the comment threads from a library computer once in a while to say hello, keep people updated and to thank them.
Best wishes to Pach’s friend.
Here’s a link to the hypocrite who sent the SEC after Ms. Stewart.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2…..-d18.shtml
Sally@117 – Don’t you think Martha Stewart’s name recognition/fame was largely responsible for the intensity of the coverage? The big difference between Stewart and Ken Lay is that the public was familiar with Martha Stewart. BTW, Mr. Comey went to the DOJ in DC and appointed Fitz to Plamegate, and he at least refused to sign off on the 45-day renewal of the warrantless wiretapping. Maybe he made too much out of the Martha Stewart deal, but anybody trying to put the brakes on this administration deserves some kudos, IMO.