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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/late-nite-fdl-one-for-my-pepys/#comment-489461</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489008&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ed*ard Teller @ 109&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kevin,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Democracy Now has recently run features about destruction of video imaging equipment and still cameras at several confrontations.  In the USA.  Bloggers haven’t been specific targets per se, word, audio or video.  But it is coming.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A State Department already involved in demonizing international communication between environmental, anti-war, humanitarian and other organizations &lt;b&gt;can’t be far from attempting to roll up a very activist blog site/network.  Here, not Egypt&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I doubt you’re holding your breath waiting for the media &amp; gov reactions to the Egyptian activists’ plight.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489007&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kevin Hayden @ 108&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Speaking of Da Bloggers, the Rodney King video was a seminal moment in the pre-blog era.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now in places like Egypt, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070219/azimi&quot;&gt;vidbloggers fight against state-sanctioned torture&lt;/a&gt;, and are facing reactionary repression from their Feds.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which raises the questions: &lt;b&gt;can a state succeed in shutting down a burgeoning phenomenom?&lt;/b&gt; And can we press our State Dept to register complaints if they do?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Deep in EPU territory here, guys, but -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, a state can.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And here in the US, fifty states did.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The US DOJ tried &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shac7.com/updates.htm&quot;&gt;six non-violent activists&lt;/a&gt; for their web site - and sent them to Federal prison.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They’re &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shac7.com/updates.htm&quot;&gt;still there&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And perhaps the US media will notice -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;one of these years ……….. of their sentences.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Federal criminal convictions for their speech on their website.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;[The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/2006/08/15/ar2006-plenary/&quot;&gt;SHAC 7&lt;/a&gt;] are a group of activists who were never charged with breaking into a fur farm, spray-painting slogans, or breaking windows. The SHAC 7 simply made a point of vocally supporting those who did.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SHAC never tried to be in the “with us” camp. They vigorously defended direct action, even as many national groups condemned underground activists as extremists, and even terrorists, to win cheap political points.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-489008"><em>Ed*ard Teller @ 109</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Democracy Now has recently run features about destruction of video imaging equipment and still cameras at several confrontations.  In the USA.  Bloggers haven’t been specific targets per se, word, audio or video.  But it is coming.</p>
<p>A State Department already involved in demonizing international communication between environmental, anti-war, humanitarian and other organizations <b>can’t be far from attempting to roll up a very activist blog site/network.  Here, not Egypt</b>.</p>
<p>I doubt you’re holding your breath waiting for the media &amp; gov reactions to the Egyptian activists’ plight.</p>
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<p><a href="#comment-489007"><em>Kevin Hayden @ 108</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Speaking of Da Bloggers, the Rodney King video was a seminal moment in the pre-blog era.</p>
<p>Now in places like Egypt, <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070219/azimi">vidbloggers fight against state-sanctioned torture</a>, and are facing reactionary repression from their Feds.</p>
<p>Which raises the questions: <b>can a state succeed in shutting down a burgeoning phenomenom?</b> And can we press our State Dept to register complaints if they do?</p>
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<p>Deep in EPU territory here, guys, but -</p>
<p>Yes, a state can.</p>
<p>And here in the US, fifty states did.</p>
<p>The US DOJ tried <a href="http://www.shac7.com/updates.htm">six non-violent activists</a> for their web site &#8211; and sent them to Federal prison.</p>
<p>For years.</p>
<p>They’re <a href="http://www.shac7.com/updates.htm">still there</a>.</p>
<p>And perhaps the US media will notice -</p>
<p>one of these years ……….. of their sentences.</p>
<p>The Federal criminal convictions for their speech on their website.</p>
<blockquote><p>[The <a href="http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/2006/08/15/ar2006-plenary/">SHAC 7</a>] are a group of activists who were never charged with breaking into a fur farm, spray-painting slogans, or breaking windows. The SHAC 7 simply made a point of vocally supporting those who did.</p>
<p>SHAC never tried to be in the “with us” camp. They vigorously defended direct action, even as many national groups condemned underground activists as extremists, and even terrorists, to win cheap political points.</p>
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		<title>By: pseudonymous in nc</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/late-nite-fdl-one-for-my-pepys/#comment-489452</link>
		<dc:creator>pseudonymous in nc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EPUd, but anyway:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You are the rightful descendents of Swift, Pope, Dryden, and Boswell!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d say Addison and Steele, or the Levellers and Diggers (though Swift and Pope did some pamphleting in their time). But that’s your point of reference.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EPUd, but anyway:</p>
<blockquote><p>You are the rightful descendents of Swift, Pope, Dryden, and Boswell!</p>
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<p>I’d say Addison and Steele, or the Levellers and Diggers (though Swift and Pope did some pamphleting in their time). But that’s your point of reference.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I commend you TRex fer demostatin’ dat us bloggers kin quote yer famous Brit writers wit the best on ‘em.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When was the last time Joe ‘I-pulled-it-out-of-my-ass’ Klein quoted Trollope? Fukin’ never is when.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Onward to a brighter, more erudite Left Blogistan!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I commend you TRex fer demostatin’ dat us bloggers kin quote yer famous Brit writers wit the best on ‘em.</p>
<p>When was the last time Joe ‘I-pulled-it-out-of-my-ass’ Klein quoted Trollope? Fukin’ never is when.</p>
<p><b>Onward to a brighter, more erudite Left Blogistan!</b></p>
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		<title>By: oregondave</title>
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		<dc:creator>oregondave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489041&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Marion in Savannah @                 134              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the NYT we have Stacy Schiff on the wonders of caffeine (speaking of addictions, I’m starting to get addicted to her stuff…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Marion. I particularly liked this&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Coffee makes everything crystal-clear, which makes me certain that I am right. What happens to a society in which everyone feels lucid, infallible and empowered? I believe Fox News would be your answer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ha!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-489041"><em>Marion in Savannah @                 134              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>In the NYT we have Stacy Schiff on the wonders of caffeine (speaking of addictions, I’m starting to get addicted to her stuff…)</p>
<p><a href="http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/">http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/</a>
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<p>Thanks, Marion. I particularly liked this</p>
<blockquote><p>Coffee makes everything crystal-clear, which makes me certain that I am right. What happens to a society in which everyone feels lucid, infallible and empowered? I believe Fox News would be your answer.</p>
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<p>Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: bg</title>
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		<dc:creator>bg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I second the Phillips Collection.  I saw fabulous Calder wire pieces there.  Amazing.  There was a lovely tea house just near there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the Phillips Collection.  I saw fabulous Calder wire pieces there.  Amazing.  There was a lovely tea house just near there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hayden</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/late-nite-fdl-one-for-my-pepys/#comment-489278</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Near the Lincoln Memorial, I hope you explore and find Einstein, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2007/02/03/what-do-you-mean/&quot;&gt;here’s a thought&lt;/a&gt; for everyone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Near the Lincoln Memorial, I hope you explore and find Einstein, too.</p>
<p>And <a href="http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2007/02/03/what-do-you-mean/">here’s a thought</a> for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: johnSwifty</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnSwifty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone who reads Dickens has a perfect right to hold and advance an opinion on any issue, human.  Dickens is all the qualification anyone ever need.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A simple fact; ’nuff said.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who reads Dickens has a perfect right to hold and advance an opinion on any issue, human.  Dickens is all the qualification anyone ever need.</p>
<p>A simple fact; ’nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: owlbear1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/late-nite-fdl-one-for-my-pepys/#comment-489090</link>
		<dc:creator>owlbear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hours and hours and hours of reading.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: petedownunder</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/late-nite-fdl-one-for-my-pepys/#comment-489089</link>
		<dc:creator>petedownunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-489061&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;twolf1 @ 143&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;One more DC site to see - National Museum of the American Indian - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wolf-digital.com/images/AmIndianMuseum/pages/AmericanIndian_01.htm&quot;&gt;slideshow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was there a few years ago and found it disappointing; I did not think it was that interesting nor providing a good insight into the lives of the American Indians. The smaller provincial museum in Victoria, BC does a better job depicting the lives of indigenous people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-489061"><em>twolf1 @ 143</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>One more DC site to see &#8211; National Museum of the American Indian &#8211; <a href="http://www.wolf-digital.com/images/AmIndianMuseum/pages/AmericanIndian_01.htm">slideshow</a></p>
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<p>I was there a few years ago and found it disappointing; I did not think it was that interesting nor providing a good insight into the lives of the American Indians. The smaller provincial museum in Victoria, BC does a better job depicting the lives of indigenous people.</p>
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		<title>By: petedownunder</title>
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		<dc:creator>petedownunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good mornin’ Pups. Good post TRex, enjoy DC. If you’re at all interested in aviation, the two Air &amp; Space museums (one on the Mall, one near Dulles) are a must see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good mornin’ Pups. Good post TRex, enjoy DC. If you’re at all interested in aviation, the two Air &amp; Space museums (one on the Mall, one near Dulles) are a must see.</p>
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