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		<title>By: Scarecrow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488723</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 01:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How Libby heard about Plame:, via CCR&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnsRtjbn2k&quot;&gt;Heard it through the grapevine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How Libby heard about Plame:, via CCR</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnsRtjbn2k">Heard it through the grapevine</a></p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488658</link>
		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hey thanks for the link, christy.  i’m especially excited at all the work on the mooninites over boston story i’ve done this week.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;remember, when cartoon characters no longer bring major metropolitan centers to a complete stand still, the terrorists have won.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey thanks for the link, christy.  i’m especially excited at all the work on the mooninites over boston story i’ve done this week.</p>
<p>remember, when cartoon characters no longer bring major metropolitan centers to a complete stand still, the terrorists have won.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Butler</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488643</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If anyone thinks ‘Civil War’ is an inadequate description for the Iraqi situation, you might try ‘failed state,’ ‘warlord government’ or ‘anarchy.’&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone thinks ‘Civil War’ is an inadequate description for the Iraqi situation, you might try ‘failed state,’ ‘warlord government’ or ‘anarchy.’</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488635</link>
		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A cross-post from the HuffPo:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brent Budowsky’s article: The Cheney Trial within The Libby Trial&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/the-cheney-trial-within-_b_40305.html&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....40305.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brent says plea bargains may be on the way that could leave ‘Shooter’ holding the wrong end of the gun.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cross-post from the HuffPo:</p>
<p>Brent Budowsky’s article: The Cheney Trial within The Libby Trial</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/the-cheney-trial-within-_b_40305.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/&#8230;..40305.html</a></p>
<p>Brent says plea bargains may be on the way that could leave ‘Shooter’ holding the wrong end of the gun.</p>
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		<title>By: Bay State Librul</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488620</link>
		<dc:creator>Bay State Librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thoughts while watching the snow come down…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How come Rove isn’t on trial/indicted?&lt;br /&gt;
From the revelations to date, why isn’t the&lt;br /&gt;
press outraged and calling for impeachment…&lt;br /&gt;
Is the Congress listening to the trial?&lt;br /&gt;
In Fitz’s heart, he must be saying to himself&lt;br /&gt;
how in the fuck has my country got to this&lt;br /&gt;
low point?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just a few questions, after having a few&lt;br /&gt;
Corona’s… and thinking what a wonderful site we have in FDL…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jack&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughts while watching the snow come down…</p>
<p>How come Rove isn’t on trial/indicted?<br />
From the revelations to date, why isn’t the<br />
press outraged and calling for impeachment…<br />
Is the Congress listening to the trial?<br />
In Fitz’s heart, he must be saying to himself<br />
how in the fuck has my country got to this<br />
low point?</p>
<p>Just a few questions, after having a few<br />
Corona’s… and thinking what a wonderful site we have in FDL…</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jack</p>
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		<title>By: newspaperbrat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488608</link>
		<dc:creator>newspaperbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-488572&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs, AR @ 110&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;npb - and little yellow birds..) BTW, Did you get my offer to send Chomsky if you cannot find it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So happy you asked - my local library hasn’t been able to get it for me through their request for inner/library loan and YES I would love to borrow your copy. Book rate postage is fine- never more than a day longer usually that first class usually. Many thanks! Address it to my P.O. Box  1914, Carmel, CA 93921.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had hoped Marcy’s new book would be here by now but Amazon confirmed it had been shipped. Let me know if you want first dibs on it after I’ve read it and I’ll send it right out to you. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Been swamped catching up on neglected work from being glued to Marcy’s live blogging and afraid I’ll never get caught up with today’s posts and comments anytime soon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Glad you asked about the collage - I was afraid I had missed it. Maybe he sent the original to Jane and is just waiting to confirm she got first dibs before posting it here. ;~)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-488572"><em>Eureka Springs, AR @ 110</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>npb &#8211; and little yellow birds..) BTW, Did you get my offer to send Chomsky if you cannot find it?</p>
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<p>So happy you asked &#8211; my local library hasn’t been able to get it for me through their request for inner/library loan and YES I would love to borrow your copy. Book rate postage is fine- never more than a day longer usually that first class usually. Many thanks! Address it to my P.O. Box  1914, Carmel, CA 93921.</p>
<p>I had hoped Marcy’s new book would be here by now but Amazon confirmed it had been shipped. Let me know if you want first dibs on it after I’ve read it and I’ll send it right out to you. </p>
<p>Been swamped catching up on neglected work from being glued to Marcy’s live blogging and afraid I’ll never get caught up with today’s posts and comments anytime soon.</p>
<p>Glad you asked about the collage &#8211; I was afraid I had missed it. Maybe he sent the original to Jane and is just waiting to confirm she got first dibs before posting it here. ;~)</p>
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		<title>By: Rat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488603</link>
		<dc:creator>Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-488567&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Prairie Sunshine @ 105&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sorry if this fly-by is a repeat…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;commondreams.org has Molly tributes by Paul Krugman and Bill Moyers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bill Moyers is another of my heroes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-488567"><em>Prairie Sunshine @ 105</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Sorry if this fly-by is a repeat…</p>
<p>commondreams.org has Molly tributes by Paul Krugman and Bill Moyers.</p>
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<p>Bill Moyers is another of my heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488592</link>
		<dc:creator>Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-488525&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @&lt;br /&gt;
                66              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-488496&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 40&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
There will never be peace in the Middle East without a settlement of the Palestinian ‘question’. If it was right for Israel to be given a homeland in 1948, and I believe it was, then it is right that the Palestinians be granted a home of their own now.&lt;br /&gt;
————&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-488504&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;BobbyG @ 46 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
There will never be peace in the Middle East, period, I fear. Would the granting of a truly independent Palestinian state suffice to effectively neutralize the mutual/multi-way hair-trigger hatreds?
&lt;p&gt;I am skeptical. We &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; have, to be fair, though, the example of Northern Ireland, I suppose. I never thought they’d give up the gun.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dunno.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-488506&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 48&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The impression here is we have to try.&lt;br /&gt;
————&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-488512&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;snuffy @ 54 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Why?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The view here is that maintaining the status quo won’t help bring peace between the two parties. Some argue the problem will continue to fester and the violence will only get worse.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My two cents worth:&lt;br /&gt;
(and originally, I had a lot to say but decided this might be better)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A people subjected to occupation by another country (sound familiar?) are not going to be overly friendly to the occupying force.  All humans deserve humane, respectful treatment.  This currently is not happening in the Israeli-Palestinian region.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is not an easy conflict to resolve, but neither is it one that should be abandoned each time one side “slips” in its efforts.  And finally, the U.S. needs to quit taking sides and be a fair brokeer.  I fear that for the last 6 years, this has not happened and it is to our detriment.  More to the point, it is to the detriment of those in the region.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-488525"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @<br />
                66              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote><a href="#comment-488496"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 40</em></a><br />
There will never be peace in the Middle East without a settlement of the Palestinian ‘question’. If it was right for Israel to be given a homeland in 1948, and I believe it was, then it is right that the Palestinians be granted a home of their own now.<br />
————<br />
<a href="#comment-488504"><em>BobbyG @ 46 </em></a><br />
There will never be peace in the Middle East, period, I fear. Would the granting of a truly independent Palestinian state suffice to effectively neutralize the mutual/multi-way hair-trigger hatreds?</p>
<p>I am skeptical. We <em>do</em> have, to be fair, though, the example of Northern Ireland, I suppose. I never thought they’d give up the gun.</p>
<p>Dunno.<br />
————<br />
<a href="#comment-488506"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 48</em></a><br />
The impression here is we have to try.<br />
————<br />
<a href="#comment-488512"><em>snuffy @ 54 </em></a><br />
Why?</p>
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<p>The view here is that maintaining the status quo won’t help bring peace between the two parties. Some argue the problem will continue to fester and the violence will only get worse.</p>
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<p>My two cents worth:<br />
(and originally, I had a lot to say but decided this might be better)</p>
<p>A people subjected to occupation by another country (sound familiar?) are not going to be overly friendly to the occupying force.  All humans deserve humane, respectful treatment.  This currently is not happening in the Israeli-Palestinian region.</p>
<p>This is not an easy conflict to resolve, but neither is it one that should be abandoned each time one side “slips” in its efforts.  And finally, the U.S. needs to quit taking sides and be a fair brokeer.  I fear that for the last 6 years, this has not happened and it is to our detriment.  More to the point, it is to the detriment of those in the region.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo M</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488589</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s your take on Libby’s efforts to have the grand jury tapes that will be played to the jury sealed, so there is no public access to the recordings themselves?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/02/AR2007020200818.html&quot;&gt;Libby: Don’t Release Grand Jury Tapes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My brief research on CD Circuit law suggests that although Walton has the discretion to do that, the strong presumption is to allow public access and that he has to find a strong countervailing public interest compelling their being sealed. What that public interest could be is not clear to me. Seems like the public interest would be to treat them like the rest of the trial exhibits — part of the public court record. After all, it’s not as if reporters won’t hear them played and report on them using their note taking skills (though no one is as good as you all at FDL!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any prediction as to what Walton will do and whether a sealing order would hold up on appeal?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy:</p>
<p>What’s your take on Libby’s efforts to have the grand jury tapes that will be played to the jury sealed, so there is no public access to the recordings themselves?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/02/AR2007020200818.html">Libby: Don’t Release Grand Jury Tapes</a></p>
<p>My brief research on CD Circuit law suggests that although Walton has the discretion to do that, the strong presumption is to allow public access and that he has to find a strong countervailing public interest compelling their being sealed. What that public interest could be is not clear to me. Seems like the public interest would be to treat them like the rest of the trial exhibits — part of the public court record. After all, it’s not as if reporters won’t hear them played and report on them using their note taking skills (though no one is as good as you all at FDL!)</p>
<p>Any prediction as to what Walton will do and whether a sealing order would hold up on appeal?</p>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma kiddo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/02/and-in-other-news-3/#comment-488588</link>
		<dc:creator>Oklahoma kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I want a candidate who understands the anger of much of America at the Bush domestic programs, his environmental denial, and his lunatic foreign policies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a candidate who understands the anger of much of America at the Bush domestic programs, his environmental denial, and his lunatic foreign policies.</p>
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