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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/01/happy-hour-buffet/#comment-487565</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was surprised by the revelation of Libby’s testimony in the beginning of the investigation that he may have discussed with Cheney about leaking Plame to reporters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which is a ridiculous statement from someone who stated that he forgot about Plame and that reporters told him about Plame. So if reporters were leaking to them and telling them that all reporters knew - their strategy was what? To leak to reporters? Yeah, right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised by the revelation of Libby’s testimony in the beginning of the investigation that he may have discussed with Cheney about leaking Plame to reporters.</p>
<p>Which is a ridiculous statement from someone who stated that he forgot about Plame and that reporters told him about Plame. So if reporters were leaking to them and telling them that all reporters knew &#8211; their strategy was what? To leak to reporters? Yeah, right.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/01/happy-hour-buffet/#comment-487408</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-487094&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Frank Probst @ 24 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-487064&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;perris @&lt;br /&gt;
                8              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;someone want to give a go at all the little tid bits we got from todays testimony?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lots of legal wrangling.  My take on the significant parts:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.  The lawyers are no longer bothering to suggest that Plame’s identity might not have been classified.  There is still some haggling over “classified” versus “covert”, but no one’s trying to suggest that Plame might have just been a cleaning woman, in which case this would be much ado about nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2.  Libby’s in a tight spot because of his opening statement.  The claim that he had no motive to lie has bitten him in the ass several times.  Fitz has been able to come back with several (You blabbed about a CIA agent.  If you weren’t sure of her status, you had an obligation to check.  We have your signature on the damn form.  You saw a number of articles saying that a crime may have been committed.  One of your co-workers saw one of those articles and immediately sought an immunity deal.)  Team Libby is trying to exclude a lot of this, on the grounds that it will make Libby look guilty.  Fitz’s response was along the lines of, “Well, yes.  That’s the point.”  The part about Libby being scapegoated has also come back to haunt him, as Fitz now wants to play video of the White House press secretary denying that Libby was at all involved.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3.  Fitz may play footage (audio only?  video?  not sure) of Libby’s grand jury testimony.  He may play all of it.  I think this is a very strong move on his part.  It would be faster to just say, “He’s a goddamn liar!”  But the video will make the same point.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wells gave the game away earlier this week when he let slip that Team Libby expects to be appealing the ruling.  That is, they expect to lose at this level but have the cash to keep going.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-487094"><em>Frank Probst @ 24 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-487064"><em>perris @<br />
                8              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>someone want to give a go at all the little tid bits we got from todays testimony?</p>
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<p>Lots of legal wrangling.  My take on the significant parts:</p>
<p>1.  The lawyers are no longer bothering to suggest that Plame’s identity might not have been classified.  There is still some haggling over “classified” versus “covert”, but no one’s trying to suggest that Plame might have just been a cleaning woman, in which case this would be much ado about nothing.</p>
<p>2.  Libby’s in a tight spot because of his opening statement.  The claim that he had no motive to lie has bitten him in the ass several times.  Fitz has been able to come back with several (You blabbed about a CIA agent.  If you weren’t sure of her status, you had an obligation to check.  We have your signature on the damn form.  You saw a number of articles saying that a crime may have been committed.  One of your co-workers saw one of those articles and immediately sought an immunity deal.)  Team Libby is trying to exclude a lot of this, on the grounds that it will make Libby look guilty.  Fitz’s response was along the lines of, “Well, yes.  That’s the point.”  The part about Libby being scapegoated has also come back to haunt him, as Fitz now wants to play video of the White House press secretary denying that Libby was at all involved.</p>
<p>3.  Fitz may play footage (audio only?  video?  not sure) of Libby’s grand jury testimony.  He may play all of it.  I think this is a very strong move on his part.  It would be faster to just say, “He’s a goddamn liar!”  But the video will make the same point.</p>
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<p>Wells gave the game away earlier this week when he let slip that Team Libby expects to be appealing the ruling.  That is, they expect to lose at this level but have the cash to keep going.</p>
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		<title>By: kairos in cal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/01/happy-hour-buffet/#comment-487404</link>
		<dc:creator>kairos in cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The News Hour’s tribute to Molly Ivins was a video of her tribute to Texas “ort” - those gross “sculptures” that don’t beautify the state.  Don’t know when the video was done, but it was classically hilarious tongue in cheek Ivins. What a fabulous lady she was!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The News Hour’s tribute to Molly Ivins was a video of her tribute to Texas “ort” &#8211; those gross “sculptures” that don’t beautify the state.  Don’t know when the video was done, but it was classically hilarious tongue in cheek Ivins. What a fabulous lady she was!</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/01/happy-hour-buffet/#comment-487400</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-487054&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;P J Evans @ 4 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 3&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why do I have the impression they’re trying to hide Gore’s nomination?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or trivialize it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-487054"><em>P J Evans @ 4 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 3</p>
<p>Why do I have the impression they’re trying to hide Gore’s nomination?</p>
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<p>Or trivialize it?</p>
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		<title>By: JugOPunch</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/01/happy-hour-buffet/#comment-487370</link>
		<dc:creator>JugOPunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, I only refreshed after every beer.  Sorry about the server, yesterday.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I only refreshed after every beer.  Sorry about the server, yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/01/happy-hour-buffet/#comment-487359</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;has anyone mentioned that there is a new thread?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anyone mentioned that there is a new thread?</p>
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		<title>By: plaindave</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/01/happy-hour-buffet/#comment-487352</link>
		<dc:creator>plaindave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Swopa - “Now you know why people like Joe Biden run, and sane people like Russ Feingold don’t.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Senator Feingold &lt;b&gt;will&lt;/b&gt; run when he believes it’s in the best interests of the country, regardless of any other consideration, including his own preference.  He is a genuine patriot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His place is in the Senate for now, wasting no time in his effort to stop the war.  Don’t mistake that for sanity.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swopa &#8211; “Now you know why people like Joe Biden run, and sane people like Russ Feingold don’t.”</p>
<p>Senator Feingold <b>will</b> run when he believes it’s in the best interests of the country, regardless of any other consideration, including his own preference.  He is a genuine patriot.</p>
<p>His place is in the Senate for now, wasting no time in his effort to stop the war.  Don’t mistake that for sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-487175&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @&lt;br /&gt;
                75              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-487169&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sparkles the Iguana @ 70 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-487138&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 50&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;glad to see that Markos has come around to my position:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Al Gore - accept no substitutes”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So you trust the judgment of a guy who chose Lieberman as his second in command.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Punaise… would you like to handle this one. Or shall I?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I got called away, so I trust you handled it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-487175"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @<br />
                75              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-487169"><em>Sparkles the Iguana @ 70 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-487138"><em>punaise @ 50</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>glad to see that Markos has come around to my position:</p>
<p>“Al Gore &#8211; accept no substitutes”</p>
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<p>So you trust the judgment of a guy who chose Lieberman as his second in command.</p>
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<p>Punaise… would you like to handle this one. Or shall I?</p>
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<p>I got called away, so I trust you handled it.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/02/01/happy-hour-buffet/#comment-487347</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-487296&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;froggermarch @ 149 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;147 cinnamonape says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“In fact, the CIA still will not reveal either her former status, whether or not her position was/is classified, or even generalities about her position EVEN today”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gosh, I bet I know of someone who could get that information declassified right quick…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well he could…but he doesn’t WANT TO!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But like the bowdlerized versions of the NIE’s I’m sure that the Imperial Executive was considering only declassifying only PART of Mrs. Wilson’s employment profile.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m wondering if they asked…did Tenet really tell Cheney about Plame…or was it someone else. Maybe Tenet told Cheney that her work was highly classified and her identity could not be declassified without great risk to US Security?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-487296"><em>froggermarch @ 149 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>147 cinnamonape says:</p>
<p>“In fact, the CIA still will not reveal either her former status, whether or not her position was/is classified, or even generalities about her position EVEN today”</p>
<p>Gosh, I bet I know of someone who could get that information declassified right quick…</p>
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<p>Well he could…but he doesn’t WANT TO!</p>
<p>But like the bowdlerized versions of the NIE’s I’m sure that the Imperial Executive was considering only declassifying only PART of Mrs. Wilson’s employment profile.</p>
<p>I’m wondering if they asked…did Tenet really tell Cheney about Plame…or was it someone else. Maybe Tenet told Cheney that her work was highly classified and her identity could not be declassified without great risk to US Security?</p>
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		<title>By: ds</title>
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		<dc:creator>ds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
As you might imagine, the folks who nominated Rush appear to have little respect for the rules. According to their press release .. they submitted an “unsolicited” nomination. Sadly, the only nominations accepted by the Nobel committee come from &lt;a href=&quot;http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/nominators.html&quot;&gt;those they invite&lt;/a&gt; to do so.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What this really means is that nobody nominated Rush Limbaugh for a Nobel Peace Prize. Nobody. It didn’t happen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just because some hokey legal group writes a letter to Oslo doesn’t make it a real nomination anymore than if I stick a post-it on a telephone pole nominating my dog. You have to be invited to submit a nomination.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, don’t repeat this meme. It didn’t happen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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As you might imagine, the folks who nominated Rush appear to have little respect for the rules. According to their press release .. they submitted an “unsolicited” nomination. Sadly, the only nominations accepted by the Nobel committee come from <a href="http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/nominators.html">those they invite</a> to do so.</p>
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<p>What this really means is that nobody nominated Rush Limbaugh for a Nobel Peace Prize. Nobody. It didn’t happen.</p>
<p>Just because some hokey legal group writes a letter to Oslo doesn’t make it a real nomination anymore than if I stick a post-it on a telephone pole nominating my dog. You have to be invited to submit a nomination.</p>
<p>So, don’t repeat this meme. It didn’t happen.</p>
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