
***Sorry about the server hiccup everyone. While we were down, Marcy completed liveblogging at DKos here. We'll update our liveblog thread as soon as Marcy can eat her lunch and give her tired fingers a break. Thanks everyone for your patience — and please remember to be judicious with comments and refreshing. Thanks much! — CHS UPDATE from Pach: All the content posted during our site hiccup at Dkos has now been posted here at FDL again. Check below this post here and here for all the courtroom updates. Marcy's at lunch and when she gets back, we'll be back in full action here at Firedoglake. Thanks for your patience! ***
It's lunchtime, and I thought we could all use a little diversion. So I've gathered a few link to some funnies — some Libby related, some not, but all in the spirit of fun. (Well, most of them are fun, anyway.)
– The Daily Show did a Libby trial recap that is hilarious. Too funny.
– Be still my heart: The General has the hots for FDL's Libby coverage. And a fascinating sneak peek at Tim Russert. And fubar at Needlenose does a little trendspotting.
– Michael Kinsley's snide is too subtle, but that doesn't mean that I can't laugh at it anyway. Especially this:
The specific facts of this saga have not been friendly to the press's arguments. Far from keeping the government honest, the leaks, or intended leaks, to Novak and others, in this tale were all part of a dizzy spin campaign in the Vice President's office. What's more, everyone involved seems to have overlooked the fact that a leak of the identity of an undercover agent can be against the law. This is a law that even most journalists think is reasonable. This law cannot be enforced if one of the parties to an illegal conversation is protected by the Fifth Amendment's right against self-incrimination and the other party, as journalists wish, is protected by a First Amendment reporter's immunity from testifying. Journalists have secrets, and government intelligence agencies have secrets. Journalists seem to be saying that their secrets are always more important and always get to win.
But even Bob Woodward can't create a leak all by himself. It takes two. You need someone else with inside knowledge of the evildoing in question. And here is what's strange: the gospel of the leak has nothing to say about sources except that the reporter won't blab about who they are. If the boss finds out who the leakers are in some other way and fires them, or if they find themselves the subject of a gargantuan federal prosecution, they should not look to the press for sympathy.
Big hat tip to the reader who e-mailed the article link to me, but forgot to tell me what screen name to thank. So, thanks!
–Digby pulled a choice selection from the Judy Diva Roadshow.
– In case you missed it last night, Olbermann had another special comment — and Crooks and Liars has the video up for your viewing pleasure.
– The Nitpicker points out Michelle Malkin's most recent faults. Quite handily, I might add. For more on Malkin's fatuous hot air, see the lovely folks at SadlyNo!
– Taylor has a compilation of Republican lemons. Mwahahaha.
– The latest TBogg takedown of J-Pod? Too funny.
– Patrick at Making Light has a peek at the Bush thumb on the science scales. Not funny, but well worth a read. And a call to your elected representatives. (What? You can do it in between hitting the refresh button…)
– While we're at it, please go and read this story from Bob Geiger. It's infuriating, but it needs to be read, discussed and sent out to anyone pushing escalation. Soldiers are not automatons we send out to do the neocons bidding — they are human beings, and we would do well to remember that each and every time a decision is made to send them into harm's way. Each and every time. While you have your elected official's office on the phone, tell them to say no to escalation — and offer to send them a link to this article.
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new word: “blurking” = blog lurking
FitZED
Christy!
I caught a link to Rich Lowry’s oped, entitled Trial could ruin Libby’s life and Fitzgerald’s reputation. I don’t know that I should link to him, because he’s undeserving of hits. He’s one helluva KoolAid kid; that much is clear. He rehashes all the typical fascist sympathizers complaints, without any justification. Fitz is “out-of-control”; Armitage is “the original leaker”; what about Sandy Berger; and, the clincher, Libby may not face a fair jury in heavily Democratic DC.
What a prick. He claims to like comments…
Sorry for the hiccup, gang — we got hit simultaneously with a bunch of stuff. Blergh.
Le troisieme! Ce n’est pas mal, non?
Latest FaBlog: Justice and Justin
Love the visual! Reminds me of our school cafeteria.
EPU’d 707 http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..bby-trial/ 707
The official versions of the “Soldiers of Heaven” battle is unraveling far more quickly than the usual mythmaking spin from the DoD:
There are growing suspicions in Iraq that the official story of the battle outside Najaf between a messianic Iraqi cult and the Iraqi security forces supported by the US, in which 263 people were killed and 210 wounded, is a fabrication. The heavy casualties may be evidence of an unpremeditated massacre.
A picture is beginning to emerge of a clash between an Iraqi Shia tribe on a pilgrimage to Najaf and an Iraqi army checkpoint that led the US to intervene with devastating effect. The involvement of Ahmed al-Hassani (also known as Abu Kamar), who believed himself to be the coming Mahdi, or Messiah, appears to have been accidental.
The story emerging on independent Iraqi websites and in Arabic newspapers is entirely different from the government’s account of the battle with the so-called “Soldiers of Heaven”, planning a raid on Najaf to kill Shia religious leaders.
http://news.independent.co.uk/…..201103.ece
McClatchy is running a story which follows the Pentagon’s line, vaguely trying to link these hapless victims to Iran (!!!) and accusing the sect of being “wealthy.” sheesh…
Required reading over lunch pups: No one will be let back into the live blogging school room until you have read it: “The Inconvenient Truth: Why Plame Had to Go” It is brilliant (and of course, scary).
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..135851/077
Christy Hardin Smith @
5
A lot of dead fish floating on top of the lake can cause lots of trouble. Glad they got cleared out.
And thanks Christy for thinking to go to the wind cat pond to let us know and thanks to egregious for tipping us off to the Kos Diary.
Richmond @ 11
Richmond, I second that; it’s an important read.
Bookwoman @ 8
Your school cafeteria has rodents, eh?
The kos echo page has a lot of interesting comments.
Please click thru to Marcy’s book on the ad here to recommend the review. No particular reason, why do you ask?
And no, I never sleep. At least not during this trial. Oh ha ha you think I actually WENT jogging :) :)
RevDeb @
12
did egregious EVER get any sleep? talk about jetlag. she went jogging at 4:00 am or some such hour.
I’m interested in that Paragraph 5 that Jeralyn referred to yesterday on the ‘Politics TV’ update. Is that something we have access to and I don’t know it?
All the missed content is now back here at FDL. Check my updated note at the top of this post for details. Refresh if necessary.
Cheers!
Christy at 5
apologies for blabber from this site. who WAS that masked woman?! no excuses! none at all, if you discount feeble mental override system failure at this end… *sniffle, snort, oh dear, i – pffffzt – wasn’t going to do this, sniffle sniff*
Richmond @
11
Good for Occam’s Hatchet. Last time I pointed out this stuff at fdl *(last summer) and noted that B-J’s efforts and discoveries probably is what really brought Armitage in on this thing, I was dissed. Bigtime…
Pach at 17. Much thanks.
off to visit
Torquemada, uh, my darling physical therapist.Ed*ard Teller @ 19
I wasn’t one of them. But, as per this election, the times have changed. And people I think are more aware now about how dangerous these times are!
And don’t miss what Joe Biden said about Barack Obama:
He is “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
A song dedicated to Steve Doocy & all other FoxNews Frauds
Very good Kos post.
Having lived through the Cold War (I’m turning 60 on the 18th) I know that what Mary McCarthy said of Lillian Hellman goes double for this government and its lackey press.
watertiger @ 23
you missed the alleged tail end of that quote: “he’d run a mean 7-11″
punaise @ 26
Oh snap!
I’m so glad I finished my lunch before I read the Jesus General post about Russert. The image of him fighting his father for the last pork chop was hysterical.
Yeah, apparently Biden wants get to the presidency by following in the footsteps of Strom Thurmond.
Swift talking Joe.
-GSD
watertiger @ 23
Oh, gawd.
Yeah, And YO, y’dont be have t’ axe him a question twice, yo. ‘Cuz homie got his shit tight, yo. Y’feel me?
_
Hey Biden, what am I? Chopped Liver?
Here’s a little lunch hour visit from the Waaaaaaahmbulance:
Thunderingly, screamingly hypocritical, you say? David Obey isn’t being any nicer about it:
Hear, hear!
The Lord have Marcy! That woman was just too much.
How did she get and keep a job at the NYT? I would not let her work on the classifieds, let alone national security issues.
It would be funny, except for the fact her malfeasance aided and abetted the tragedy that is still unfolding in Iraq.
watertiger @ 23
That’s a little meatier than most of Biden’s vanilla-bland public statements…
BobbyG @ 30
Barak “Hyphie” Obama….
I manage to clean myself everyday. What do I have to do to get props from Biden?
If Shirley Chisholm had stopped with all of her ghetto talk she might have won in 1972.
I am going to recommend that if Al Sharpton wants to win this time around he better start bathing more often.
Uncle Joe says so.
-GSD
I think the deal Fitz made with Judy is that she could “not remember” any and all other sources except for Libby
It made it look like she had a bad memory and could go against her credibility but it did get her notebooks entered into evidence.
EPUed, so reposting:
Um, if Matalin calls someone “a snake”, is it an insult or a compliment? Didn’t she publicly and repeatedly refer to her husband as “Mister Serpenthead”? Can’t wait for the defense to try to argue that this was just Mary’s way of saying she had a crush on Wilson.
Maybe Earl Butz would like to comment!
GSD @
37
Stephen Dulaney @ 38
Doubtful. That’s pretty much suborning (sp?) perjury, which isn’t Fitz’s style.
Stephen Dulaney @ 38
And it kept her from spoiling any cases to come…
Howdy folks, de-lurking to give a big thanks for the amazing coverage Team FDL is giving this trial. And since this is a thread dedicated to some lighter notes, thought I’d point you to yesterday’s episode of The Show with ZeFrank, where he neatly skewers the trial coverage in terms of high-school politics. If you haven’t seen ZeFrank before, you’re in for a treat. His Libby rant starts about a minute into the piece. Enjoy!
http://www.zefrank.com/theshow.....13007.htmlBiden was toast before. Now he is really burned white bread, with the crusts still intact. The kind that is so bad, that you can’t even scrape off the charcoal on the surface because it goes right through.
Shorter David Obey (D-Wisconsin) to GOP: STFU
One more thing, Libby intentionally told Miller that Plame worked at WINPAC at a time when he new she was on the more covert CPD group then he new she was covert. He understood the difference so why link her to WINPAC?
Ted Koppel the former host of ABC’s Nightline had a commentary today on NPR. He said that the Bush Administration was dishonest when it said that the reason we were in Iraq was to help the Iraqi people. It was, in fact, about oil. Koppel then turned around and slammed those who wished to withdraw our troops because he said that this would endanger oil production and flow in the region.
While it is nice that Koppel has picked up on the fact that we would not be in Iraq except for the oil, he too has some “honesty” issues.
First, he puts those who are trying to clean up this mess on the same level with those who created it. Bush didn’t have to go into Iraq. He certainly didn’t have to go in there the way he did. He had alternatives. Those who must face up to the disaster that Bush made in Iraq have options but not alternatives. They can deal with the disaster in various ways. They can not, however, unmake the disaster or act like it is not there.
Second, Koppel puts forth a strawman: stay and protect the oil supply or leave and see it compromised. This is silly. For one thing it can be argued that it is precisely our presence in Iraq that is doing the most to destabilize the region and endanger the flow of oil through it. As for withdrawal, even under the best of circumstances, this would take months and have to be staged allowing at least the opportunity for Iraqis to fill in the resultant power vacuum if they were so inclined. Realistically, they probably won’t or will do so only partly. This is true now. It will be true if we wait another year. Only in the latter case more Americans troops will have died to achieve the same result. What’s more withdrawal from Iraq does not mean withdrawal from the Persian Gulf. Koppel should go back and reread the Murtha Plan or really almost any other plan for a phased departure of our troops. Nobody is suggesting that we leave the region entirely.
Third, while criticizing everyone else for their lack of a “reasonable” plan, Koppel rather noticeably offers none of his own.
This leaves Koppel’s commentary with the single point that Iraq was and is about oil. I hate to tell you, Ted, but we kind of knew that.
Richmond @ 11, that’s my theory. A two-fer.
Richmond @ 44
YO! I feel ya, yo. And all dem low-rise hoppers gonna be gettin’ down with Obama, yo.
_
Richmond @ 44
Does this make Biden “Lincolnesque”?
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”
Abraham Lincoln
reference to note, Libby’s phone call to Mary Matalin
Well, Libby calls Russert, knowing MM thinks Russert hates Chris Matthews…
I recall Matthews saying “I just got off the phone with Rove and he says your wife is fair game.”
SOOOO, Libby and Rove were not only playing NBC for tools, they were playing individuals against one another.
Libby talked to Russert and Rove talked to Matthews.
Do I wonder if the competition between Russert and Matthews was reflecting some competition between Libby and Rove?
Catching up on the liveblogging, this is my favorite recent bit:
:-)
Libby’s aspen letter to Judy Miller:
For those who find the NYTimes pdf hard to read, you can go to this link to read the entire readable text. This letter is crucial to the case.
Pach, re: “Michael Kinsley’s snide is too subtle, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t laugh at it anyway. Especially this:“
Where do you cross the line from “leaking” to “participating in and the furthering of a criminal conspiracy”?
This, I believe, has never been fully discussed in the public realm. At least by the msm anyway. But it’s a crucial question – leak vs. crime participation. And that I what this whole Plame Case should be about. (personally, I believe they went WAY over that line in this Case.)
But if it takes a perjury and obstruction case to at least make this larger Case apparent in court…..then so be it. I hope this question does not evaporate after this trial is over.
“The truth shall set ye free.”
Stephen Dulaney @ 46
The most damaging possibility is that he wanted it leaked, and thought that even Judy might hesitate if she checked up and found that CPD was Operations, whereas WINPAC was mostly Analysts.
Of course, it could be something more innocent, but “more innocent” rarely seems to apply to members of this administration.
Read the very interesting dailykos article & was surprised (shouldn’t have been) to see Judy Miller’s name.
Judy sure has been passed around a lot among the neo-cons. I guess that makes her community property.
My favorite quote of the day is Judy’s
This is certainly true if the profession in question is prostitution but if it’s journalism and the idea is to facilitate the powerful and not protect others from them, then not so much.
watertiger @ 23
i wish you were kidding, but apparently not?
OMG what a… what’s the word for male witch?
Hey bunny! (looking at picture on top of page) You gunna use that jelly packet on your tray?
njr @ 50
all the dirty laundry is getting aired. You gotta love it.
All right – SO, that damned affidavit from Judith Miller to squash the subpoena isn’t available, is that it?
From Froomkin’s column today:
“The Firedoglake blog continues to shame the traditional media with its liveblogging, making it the only place where you can find out what’s going on in real time, and in any detail.”
Thank you, ladies and GENTS (neglected them the last go-round).
Christy, Pach, Marcy, RBG et al — thanks so much for the graceful continuity. Great work!!
That bit by Michael Kinsley is good stuff, but it would have been great if we could trust the corporate-owned media.
Chady @ 56
Judy’s been circulated in DC, NYC, Tripoli-Libya, Cairo, Jerusalem, Amman-Jordan. As Maureen Dowd put it: She’s tropistic toward powerful men. Oh, and London. Let’s not forget London.
clueless @ 58
chinchilla? gerbil? any mammal-experts in the crowd besides Pach? *g*
Something bothering me about Rove and some reference to his being involved with “Bioshield”.
Is that where they try to scare us with avian flu$ or anthrax or Iraq/ni people with Possible Scary Bioweapons? Hm.
egregious @ 66
I took it as a reference to Bush’s penchant to passing gas.
egregious @ 65
I prefer to hope he just failed his initial screening test for Rite-Gard spokesnit.
Chinchilla’s ears are bigger. Color wrong for gerbil. A designer rat in honor of judyjudy, libbylibby, cheneycheney & rove,rove?
Ha! The very idea of Tarantula Matalin with her viper-headed husband calling ANYBODY else a snake is rich…rich indeed.
Adie @ 65
Prolly a hamster.
This link might go better with the Malicious Buffoonery thread, but Bush’s visit to a Caterpillar plant is a doozy.
Newsweek blogs
Way to uphold the honor of the Office of President. What a joke of a man.
And to continue the theme of reporters being much too nice to this White House, none of the articles about this story in the local IL papers mentions this episode. Way to go, press corps.
Hamster, most likely.
(where the hell did that last post go? Weeeeeird.)
does anyone here know the significance of the role of the Rendon Group ?
visavis, well, to be blunt, all of this:
the Libby Trial , the Inconvenient truth: Why Plame had to go piece, etc etc
much love, newbie the Antithesis
Never mind.
[puts headache-y skull back down on desk]
TheOtherWA @ 71
It didn’t say if he was wearing a codpiece in his special designer construction worker outfit. And, I bet he did it on purpose!
Of course he did. Just like he put firecrackers in frogs on purpose and branded fraternity pledges on purpose. He’s a sick, twisted person.
Put a hot pink tie on that critter and you have Driftglass’ version of BOBO.
GSD @ 29
The sad, pitiful thing is that Biden probably has no idea how that sounds. He’s so clueless. He should stay on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and investigate the hell out of Bushco over the next two years, and not be distracted by a hopeless presidential campaign.
Biodun @64- And a very understanding husband to boot, I gather. She must have attended man training school.
Aspen letter: You will have stories to cover — Iraqi elections and suicide bombers, biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program.
These are the fake stories that the administration was trying to promote thru Judy’s propaganda articles.
And we’re juuust in time for the Iranian nuclear program.
Wonder if “V” got the bio stuff taken off the list, at least for a while. Too obvious.
Rendon Group: A “public relations” group formed by a neocon to promote Chalabi and Iraq war. Here is a link:
http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp11012005.html
The story of the snake and the caterpillar @ 72 and the reporters being too nice to the White House: When Rich Little appears at the press fete, he will be free to slam Democrats (and he will) but not Snow White and his dwarfs. So many Judy Millers in that crowd.
njr @
51
So is there any truth to the rumor that Tim Russert intends to rename MTP as Tool Time?
I gotta say, I’m liking Judge Walton: “You ain’t gonna win that one.”
LOLOL!
TheOtherWA @ 72
And how many times were we treated in 1988 to clips of Dukakis in the tank? Why aren’t I allowed to see Bush “accidentally” running down members of the press on my teevee?
Richmond @ 67
1. okay. couldn’t remember.
2. Nuh-uh. Eyes too small for designer rat (which would trace to Norway rat).
How ’bout designer guinea pig???
watertiger @ 70
Eyes too small? How ’bout guinea pig???
Uh, I think that it’s jive ass m*therf*cka if memory serves.
Adie @
58
Mary Matalin referring to someone else as a snake is merely inter-species acknowledgment.
-GSD
litigatormom @ 87
Here’s my own Bush ‘Dukakis in a Tank Moment’. FAR more absurd.
_
face & ears wrong for a designer Guinea, me thinks. Someone above said hamsta. I’ll go with gangsta hamsta for the moment.
watertiger @ 72
good news: Caught it!
bad news: eyes too big for hamster?
Gonna go with designer guinea pig, I think…
Chady @ 80
There’s speculation about her and Pinch as well. In the 1970s, when Judy was freelancing for the Times before she got on staff, they both shared an apartment with two others in DC.
Re Bush’s Caterpillar plant visit, Caterpillar has had record profits making it a natural for a Bush show piece and features a manufacturer to boot. Caterpillar workers have not shared in this largesse. They suffered through a crippling strike and while Cat’s profits soar, their paychecks don’t and they have to pay for most of their healthcare.
So in a way this is a perfect corporate example for Bush’s America: a profitable corporation, happy shareholders, and workers with stagnant wages and higher healthcare costs. In Bush economics, there are lords and their are serfs. Call it neo-feudalism.
I’m keeping this in the lunch thread so as to perhaps “save the servers”
From Froomkin’s chat:
litigatormom — the reason you’re not seeing Bush stumbling like Ford, sweating like a paranoid freak like Nixon, bumbling like Reagan, batting at bunnies like Carter, being a bubba like Clinton is the very reason we are seeing the Press staff of the administration and media figures on the stand.
The Bush administration owns the media. And that means the boss does whatever he wants without any worries that he’ll be portrayed in a bad light, except on a couple shows on late night television after the most frequent and reliable voters have already snogged off to see the Sand Man.
[sigh]
Hugh @ 47:
Ted Koppel is certainly critical of the Bush Administration, but yes, he constantly triangulates. Remember, he claimed to be Kissinger’s protege.
okayallyoubigmaladjustedmammals:
no fair wrenching science around to fit pre-determined narrative! too much-a that goin’ around, for real, blergh.
*off to googledom, tra-la-la-la-la-lah….*
Oops! One more thing. Did anyone catch this bit-a newz in the a.m.?
Ladies & gents, I give you the leader of the free world. HELP!?!
http://www.talk.newsweek.com/d…..tem=464251
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterpillar_D10
At least Reagan was a bit older when senility began to set in…
This latest incident – all I can think of is “Mash” series character Frank Burns in his runamok tank escapade, or poor Dukakas in his tank-moment.
How may ways can we beg Congress to impeach? NOW!
Sure looks like a buff-colored chinchilla to me, just has his ears laid back like a rabbit would.
Agh, have to pick up the boy and attend his chess club tournament, no WiFi. I’m going to go into withdrawal!!!
Keep my spot warm, check you in a few hours.
Cooper’s back.
New thread upstairs…
Richmond@11
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Sort of fits with conclusion I came to independently.
“I don’t know how much reporters are benefiting from the perspective of the bloggers — but most journalists would agree that the more voices out there, the better.”
I guess that leaves out Judy, Judy, Judy.
So Joe
Felix Macaca AllenBiden is going to go down in history as having had the shortest – 24 hrs – presidential campaign in history? I hope so.This from Walter Shapiro in today’s Salon (his last paragraph) is certainly depressing:
Ed*ard Teller @ 19
ET – I hope I wasn’t one of the dissers – but I admit I found the idea a little too paranoid when this all began == now it fits perfectly with these people’s m.o. and mindsets. Sadly, I figure it’s very likely.
as i pointed out yesterday (on one of your threads as well as my own blog), cnn’s situation room blog also hearts fdl, linking to you twice in their coverage of the libby trial.
The picture is entitled “hamster”
googled’n’googled s’more:
My gamblin’ money is on designer GERBIL.
Longer hair, & different color than wild-type, but they’ve been domesticated long long time, with color & longer hair being a favorite thing people seem to want to change when they get started messin’ wit’ muddernature.
Gerbil’s the only one with that cute a nose & nice BIG eyes. Both guinea pigs & chinchillas have broader skull &, ahem, less diminutive schnozola.
Go search for yerself & see whatcha come up with.
s’cuse while I refresh. then I’ll be right up with the good students upstairs, sitting primly at my desk & reading every word. ;->
but then, the guineapig our kids used to have sure was a cutie, so….
lectric lady @ 107
Remember please, at the lake, if you have to actually read something to find out the answer, it is called cheating. :-} (Literacy is a wonderful thing if you use it)!
Rayne @ 98
Absolutely Raine!! That in many ways is the worst of this whole things. The founding fathers expected corrupt Presidents, Congress People and Judiciary and planned accordingly with checks and balances. But the Media is something new altogether – and in many ways the most difficult to counter.
I am not surprised about the wait for VA treatment. I to am a disabled vet.(100% disability from service 1968 to 1980) the VA greatly improved under Clinton, but has fallen on hard times lately. I have to see a Dr at my own expense for my hearing problems(2 hearing aids) as the VA no longer has anyone local who can do any thing. Trying to see a specialist is quite difficult due to the large numbers of people and shortage of Dr and space. I get VA dental service, and until recently it took over a year yo get an apointment. I needed to get a tooth pulled and my apt was for 6 months later. I took the $300 hit and had a outside dentist take care of it. Don’t get me wrong, both myself and my wife think that VA treatment is fantastic-my wife was in the ER twice for food poisoning, ER doc’s were right there and very knowledgeable, but getting a routine apt is hard. I have spent much time waiting and talking to others in the system. We are all agreed that gwb has not funded the VA the way that he should. He has vastly underfunded the system, to the point that in order to get rehab for our new vets, the govt refused to fund(private funds did) the new rehab center at Fort Sam’s Brook Army Medical Center-it was all over national TV when it opened-but the big question was never asked or answered by gwb. Why did it take private funds to get the rehab instead of govt funds. The repigs always say that they are for the troops, well they are, but only as long as they don’t have to spend money. If not for the owner of an empty bldg here in San Antonio giving a floor to the VA to use as a dental clinic, I would still be going to my dentist in the VA hospital, where each dentist room was all of about 5 feet wide, and 15 feet wide. A dentist, the asst. and me in the chair, very tight space. And it had been like this for years. A VA hosp about 60 miles north of here in Kerrville Tx, is mostly empty as they are not able to hire new Dr’s when the ones they have leave or retire, so they are sent to SA, as are all in the Rio Grande valley. The only way it works at all is the fact that there is a medical school here, and the Dr’s there, and from University hosp across the street come over to the VA hosp and work for free. You get the picture?
Richmond @
113
okay – sure is a cute little fella, whatever he/she is and, like me, could probably use a few extra turns on the wheel instead of scarfing down more biscuits ;->
on literature note, be cautious – just ’cause it’s in print doesn’t mean it’s necessarily true.
go google a critter you know well, & click on “images”, & look at all the wrong titles that pop up.
Hugh @
47
Yep, I listened to that too. IMHO, Koppel is pretty much washed up anymore. He might have influence, but he lacks much in substance anymore. Not sure if you heard his pieces from when he reported on Iran a few months back, but much of what he discussed sounded more like Bush administration propoganda than any sort of balanced reporting.
Sorry, but Koppel gets no vote of confidence from me either.
By the way, check this too … more on “it’s about the oil.” Only this is a bit more current. Not sure just how closely some are following.
Independent__UK
Oirat @ 117
Oil AND Armament sales AND Isr*el – as Mr. Koppel knows very well.
Richmond @
118
Exactly. I fear we are seeing more of the cherry-picking of intel again, not to mention selective use of media outlets. As Yogi Berra might say, “It’s deja vu all over again.”
One can only hope we’ll start to see more definitive reporting on this new (and related) development as well. Particularly in light of the clear evidence of smear / deception tactics going into Iraq and as brought to light in this trial.
Well, a girl can dream, can’t she? If it is a dream,, don’t wake me up! :-P