
I consider this to be a positive development (via Carpetbagger):
I’ve often thought there should be some kind of consequence for Fox News’ more ridiculous behavior. Apparently, I’m not the only one.
These are chilly days on Capitol Hill … and on the campaign trail for Fox News journalists — at least when they’re anywhere near Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).
Sources tell The Sleuth that the Obama camp has “frozen out” Fox News reporters and producers in the wake of the network’s major screw-up in running with the erroneous Obama-the-jihadist story reported by Insight magazine.
“I’m still in the freezer,” one Fox journalist said, noting that the people at Fox “suffering the most did nothing wrong.” (It was “Fox and Friends” host Steve Doocy who aired the Insight magazine piece, which reported that operatives connected to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) found out that Obama, as a child, was educated at a Muslim madrassah in Indonesia.)
Another Fox journalist called the network’s airing of the story “unfortunate” for the network’s journalists who have to cover Obama and who are being adversely affected despite not being involved in the incident.
Aw. Cry me a goddamn river. Those poor, poor Pox News correspondents. How dare those mean ol' Obama people strike back in the face of what was clearly a paper-thin, double-dealing, vicious personal attack (which Fox then turned around and tried to blame on the Hillary camp). What are they thinking? It's not like Fox is nothing but a propaganda tool for the Republican Party, right?
Oh, no, wait.
It’s difficult to feel sorry for Fox News’ team.
I'll say.
Whether the individual correspondent assigned to Obama’s campaign was directly responsible for the bogus madrassa story or not, it’s still Fox News. What are the chances that the reporting on his campaign will be fair? And if those chances are small, why give the network precious time?
It may seem petty to punish the network, but I like this approach. Indeed, if Fox News is basically an ideological tabloid, along the lines of the National Enquirer, why play along and treat it as a legitimate news source? Why not punish irresponsible conduct?
Indeed. I think all Democrats should boycott Fox News. Or if they do talk to Fox, make sure to get in a dig or two at their utter lack of objectivity and their willingness to spin stories out of whole cloth as long as they benefit the GOP. I've seen some excellent push-back from (of course) Big Dog in his interview with that little mewling, puking hairball Chris Wallace, Barney Frank, and even Barbara Boxer. I believe that any Democratic or left-leaning pundit who says anything at all to Fox News should make it abundantly clear how contemptuous they are of Fox's journalistic standards (such as they are). The administration sock-puppets who host and staff the programming certainly aren't shy about showing their irrational hate and prejudice toward anything that isn't so red-state that it's momma and daddy are siblings. Sensible Dems should by all means return the favor.
What has been Fox's response to the Obama camp's decision to put them in Time Out?
A Fox News spokesperson told the Post that it’s in Obama’s interest to change his mind. In reference to Obama’s campaign advisor, Robert Gibbs, the FNC media flack said, “[P]erhaps Mr. Gibbs should reconsider that ill-advised strategy given his candidate is trailing by 20 points in the polls.”
In other words, "Nice candidacy you've got here. Be a shame if anything...'happened' to it."
Yeah, well, that's mighty tough talk from a network whose ratings are dropping like an Evangelical preacher's pants at a gay hooker convention.
In the week and a half since the election, the numbers have settled somewhat, and Fox is back to number one. But there is no denying the trend: CNN, and now third-place MSNBC, are steadily gaining in share, and Fox is, well, not. It's still the leader, but even before the election it was showing signs of slippage: Its October 2006 numbers reflected a 2% drop in total day and a 9% drop in primetime. CNN was up 15% in total day and lost only 1% in primetime — while underdog MSNBC enjoyed a double-digit jump on both fronts with a 34% leap in day and a 15% hike in primetime, the only network of the three to post gains.
Die, Fox News, die. Our nation will be so much smarter and better informed for it.
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Molly!!
Fitz 4 ever!
Goddamn, I loved Molly Ivins. May God tenderly embrace her soul at Heaven’s gates tonight.
Oh, and my contempt for Michelle Malkin, Joe Lieberman, and Chris Wallace will never subside. In fact, even if you strike it down, Lord Vader, it will grow more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
TRex @ 3
I don’t spend much time worrying about how God will treat the truth-tellers. She’s in.
Saw the title, and thought it was a gay/lesbian lament about the one that got away.
Damn! Straight! I coulda sworn . . .
Great Thread TRex & I hope the only “Faux Democrat” to appear on the Fox Noise Channel will be LIEberman from now on!!
“That mewling, puking hairball . . .”
Love the Shakespeare, TRex (though I don’t recall the hairball part . . . )!
Ewe. Ewe. Dam. Sheeple.
I actually laughed out loud for this one. Nicely said :)
oregondave @ 8
TRex is known for his creative memory. Or, now he is, anyway.
oregondave @ 7
I am guessing that Shakespeare didn’t have a cat. Otherwise I’m sure he would have included it.
TRex, I always thought you were an animal lover. (No, not like THAT….) I’m concerned that the photograph illustrating your post harmed an innocent ewe. No animal lacking an opposable thumb, who therefore can’t change the channel, should EVER be exposed to Pox News. Shame. Shame. Shame… I am SO disappointed…
Soylent Fox is sheeple!
EvilDrPuma @ 5
Actually by those standards Trex has a place reserved already(but no need to use it anytime soon). Molly would probably enjoy very much the the wit of the 60 Footer!
As this story gets out among democratic voters, I can envision a different scenario than the one laid out by the Fox News spokesman.
Day one: Obama gets a bump, from Dems who are delighted to see someone stick it to Fox.
Day two: Hillary gets nervous, looking at that bump, but can’t decide whether to follow suit or not.
Day three: Edwards stands up to defend Obama, kicks Fox off the campaign bus, and gets a bump from the Dems who aren’t keen on Obama and like a Dem who sticks up for other Dems, even if he’s running against them.
Day four: Hillary, now really nervous, avoids the press altogether for a day.
Day five: Richardson stands up to Fox, and adds his own Hispanic twist by dissing them in Spanish over both Obama and their wingnut coverage of immigrant issues - big bump out west for the Gov.
Day six: Hillary finally gets the memo, and joins the chorus along with Biden, Kucinich, and the rest of the cast of thousands in refusing to take questions from Fox reporters.
And on the seventh day they rested.
“Fox, nice network you’ve got here . . . be a shame if anything ‘happened’ to it . . .”
Marion in Savannah @
13
Um, Marion, the sheep is only in danger from Falafel Bill if she turns around.
TRex @ 12
It’s clear, though, that he had a dog: “Out! Out, damned Spot! Out, I say!”
And quite the disciplinarian, apparantly . . .
Peterr @ 16
They can always get McCain, Brownback, Tancredo and the rest of that soooo inspired ilk.
Peterr @ 16
Looks like you’ve got Hillary’s number.
Marion in Savannah @ 12
Worry not, dearest. I ran this by some Right Wing photoshop experts and they assured me that this is a mock-up.
TRex @ 21
I was concerned that it was actual animal abuse.
Anchor Baby is attacking Lara Ingram now. She really has no clue…
Kelven @ 22
Really? A Reich Wing cat-fight?! Meeeeee-OW!
Or do you mean Lara Logan?
The cat will mew, and dog will have his day. (yrs, will)
Let’s give Olbermann a bit of love and just start calling it “Fox Noise” on a permanent basis. It has such a nice ring to it, doncha think?
Not sure Biden’ll still be in the race by Day Six, but I like the chronology. Let’s have a Foxcott, Democratic Presidential Wannabes!
TRex @ 21
It was made with a black lab and a whole shitload of cotton balls.
TRex @ 24
DOH! - yeah that’s what I meant…
I love it when a Trex pelts FOX. After all we rabid lambs are no sheer suckers.
EvilDrPuma @ 20
You know, in some ways I think she’s got some good stuff to say, but she’s afraid to let it out. She got burned so bad in the health care policy stuff at the beginning of Bill’s presidency that I think she’s gunshy about pushing too much, too fast, and so ends up looking like she’s poll-driven or afraid to take a stand.
But I could be wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time. I’m going to be really curious to see how she handles the whole “frontrunner” thing.
It’s going to be a fun campaign season, and I look forward to hearing from all the candidates as I sort out my thinking.
Pass the popcorn.
EvilDrPuma @ 28
hehe. Oh, EDP, I apologize for my “downer” comment about Cambridge the other eve. I thought about it later, and regretted it. If that’s what you want, I hope you get it.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 29
Fleece Navidad!
Or something.
This post is too funny. Especially love the picture. Where’d it come from? The pox freeze out may be the 1st “political” thing my junior Senator has done that I approve.
Heads up NPR is covering the bloggers covering the Libby Trial.
TeddySanFran @ 27
Beats having the Fox-trots, which is what you get after watching too much of their Noise.
Valley Girl @ 32
Don’t worry about it; I actually appreciated the opinion. My mileage may vary, or maybe it won’t.
In any case, I expect to know whether I get the interview late in February. Keep your fingers crossed.
Ooooh….oooooh….ooohhh…anchor baby….
-GSD
Charlie Rose just mentioned that in France political commercials are not allowed on television.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 38
That would pretty much take care of Faux News right there.
Was anyone else surprised that Faux News had reporters covering Obama in the first place? I mean, if they had people there with Obama, why didn’t one of them just say, “We’re about to run with a story claiming that you were educated in a fundamentlist Islamic training camp. Would you care to comment on that?”
TRex @
33
like, have a warm birthday …….
Cats, dogs, sheep, foxes . . . we got The Crass Menagerie here. Say, maybe that’s an apt term for the FOX crowd . . .
GSD @ 37
imagine Eartha Kitt …..
If Senator Clinton waits too long to boycott Fox Noise, it may appear like her campaign really did have something to do with the Obama/madrassa thing…
Which is worse? Faux Noise morning guy Stephen Douchebag and John Gibberish?
Or rant radio’s Rush Limbaugh and Falafel O’Reilly shilling books and newsletters for the troops…for a price?
We compose…you decide.
If the White House could try to freeze out Helen Thomas, surely the Dems could stand up to Fox. Not that it did the WH any good with Helen, mind you, but the notion of candidates and officeholders refusing to deal with certain media outlets is not exactly new.
EvilDrPuma @ 36
I will keep my fingers crossed. Actually, I was in a difficult situation in Cambridge. I was living with someone I met the summer before I went there- I already had my Cambridge gig in place, and met this Welshman (who was also going back to Cambridge) when were both “Grass” fellows at MBL. The deal was, he was planning to return to the US asap. But, turned out not, once he got back to the UK. So, what I had initially thought would be a limited 3 year tour turned out to be the possibility of “Cambridge forever”. That did not work. I know that the Americans (I assume you are such) who were in Cambridge as a “stop-off” in their academic careers really enjoyed the experience.
Peterr @
6
My one and only ewe?
HeirofPatriots @ 34
Yeah, and NPR manages to get it wrong. To wit:
And when they do mention (and quote from) Marcy’s coverage, they never mention her name. How poor is that? They give Dickerson more than a nod . . . but Marcy? Nada.
oregondave @ 49
Seems to me that there’s a word for that…something starting with a “p” that I kick students’ asses for if I catch them doing it.
Peterr @
31
Inside of every DLC democrat is a true progressive screaming to get out.
Beautiful post, beautiful thing somebody finally saying fuck you sideways you fucking fox fucks. Damn does this befit Molly. God I am heartsick but she is smiling. Beautiful job Molly. You leave an army.
Oregondave,
You’re right about Marcy. That’s not professional way to quote someone.
We can ask if the Corrections and Ombudsman will look into it.
(Sorry to prove my ignorance, but I don’t know who Robert Cox is.)
Goodnight everyone.
Eureka Springs, AR @
38
Good idea!
EvilDrPuma @ 50
Dr.E- hope you saw my extended explanation above. Oh, the “P” word. Plagiarism - took me the longest time to learn how to spell that- and I had to use a memory trick- giar = liar. And, occasion (not occassion) (don’t want any asses at my occasion).
Colbert had a comment last week about the joy of “watching Steve Doocy feeding a warmed banana to a monkey”….Fucking funny.
-GSD
Frank Probst @
40
On the other hand, the one person at Fox most likely to know that the story was a piece of crap from Day One is the reporter covering Obama.
Producer: “OK, we’ve got this story on Obama’s Islamic education. Go get a reaction quote on camera for us.”
Reporter: “You’ve got to be nuts. I mean, I’ve been to the guy’s church with him. I’ve heard him talking to church choirs, I went with him to that conservative evangelical church thing a couple months ago . . . the guy is a Christian! Whoever gave you this story sold you a piece of crap!!”
Producer: “Just go ask for a reaction.”
Reporter: “Hell no.”
Even if it didn’t go down like that, right now that reporter is probably the most relieved guy at Fox: “Thank God I don’t have to go up and apologize every day for the story those idiots in the studio ran.”
Valley Girl @ 55
I did read your comment; sorry to sit on it, but no reply leaped into my brain. You’re right, it’s a different situation, but it might not have much effect on how friendly you thought the locals were. We’ll see; I may be more introverted than you, so it might not even make much difference.
As for the NPR thing–that really pisses me off. Is it really too much to ask that our media show some awareness of intellectual ethics?
Frank Probst @ 40
If they were an actual news organization, that would be a no-brainer. But they couldn’t be bothered even to call someone on the ground and confirm the story, so it’s pretty obvious that’s not what they are, even if people who work for them call themselves “reporters.”
Dr.E. Total introvert here. Extrovert only under duress. fwiw.
I found the actual quote:
One can only imagine what might have been warmed in this mighty chamber. Maybe Sean Hannity nuking a hot pocket. Maybe Alan Colmes reheating his mug of gruel. Or Steve Doocy softening a banana so he can feed it to a chimp in a top hat. There it is, the memento of a magical evening preserved forever on this DVD.”
-GSD
I think The Carpetbagger may have libeled the National Enquirer!
Valley Girl @ 60
Okay. Oh, and I am an American, but only on paper these days.
Frank Probst @
40
But that would ruin EVERYTHING!
And yes, I was surprised that they’ve got anyone on the campaign at all.
I just went and read the NPR article .
I don’t think the issue is plagiarism.
More like, it disses FDL by implying that the coverage is frivolous.
~~”Liveblog” commentaries can be snarky. (”Now she’s got a pissed look on her face,” the writers of Fire Dog Lake noted when describing former New York Times reporter Judith Miller on the stand). ~~
~~The writers at Fire Dog Lake keep their site updated throughout the day, offering a playful mix of colorful details and inane minutiae — such as this commentary, when reporter Judith Miller took the stand.
“Judy back. Looks like she’s doing breathing exercises, pouring herself water. Got out of chair and is now back. Gets more water. Thanks person who brings more. Looking around cautiously. Closes eyes. Breathes. Breathes out. Looking straight foward. Head darts nervously. Staring forward. Shifts in chair. Looks toward Libby’s team? Looks towawrd lawyers. Adjusts blouse. Looks at lawyers again.”
This particular post inspired yet another popular blog, Wonkette, to question the utility of having bloggers in the courtroom. The jury’s still out on that one.~~
THAT should be the subject of any complaints.
Yeah, well, that’s mighty tough talk from a network whose ratings are dropping like an Evangelical preacher’s pants at a gay hooker convention.
That is classic.
TRex,
Agreed. You know what I’d really like to see? Everyone on the good team just ignore FOX. No decent people on the tube, no Colbert making a fool of O’Reilly, no “Worst Person in the World”, no blogs discussing their trash, nothing. No responses to their dribble at all. Dissappeared.
I’m going to go have a talk with the people at NPR this weekend. They don’t know it yet, but I’m about to inform them that their blog coverage sucks.
TRex @ 68
Fair enough, since it does. Gee, I’ll bet I could pick out one or two brief clips from any given NPR program and use them to make public radio look completely irrelevant and undeserving of attention, too.
TRex @ 68
speaking of which, did they ever fill the “blogger” position? (edit the blogger “position”)
NPR — whatever. They give credence to Clarice Feldman, who insists that that the first world trade center bombing was planned by Iraqi agents and Fitzgerald was wrong for being the first justice official to indict Osama and throw the Blind Sheik in jail. And then Tom Pierce snarks on firedoglake. **Eye roll**
Sigh. No wonder we are in this mess in Iraq - this is your ‘liberal’ media at work. But remember, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, and they they fight you, then you win.
I think that sheep is among the 8% of sheep who are sexually attracted only to Bill O’Reilly.
Hey TRex, can we deliver a “Maryland Moment” to NPR?
With Hannity, Doocy and O’Reily, Fox Noise has a formidable lineup of Right Wing apologists. They fool some of the people all of the time. Those are the people who want to be fooled, who want to live in a make believe world, waiting desperately for their American dream to materialize.
It is just recently, (say since about November 2006,) that even the Right Wing starts to realize that they are being fed a load of crap, from Iraq to Iran, from Clinton to Obama. Here is to more and more pundits and correspondents realizing how they have been duped and pushing back against the propoganda!
Obama deserves support for this decision. Thanks TRex for bringing this to our attention. I for one had not heard this news.
been wondering about a few issues during our snowstorm.
Any news on dartmonk project?
I have been wondering about the consequences of this move for early primary votes in so many states in such a small period of time. It appears big money candidates will benefit far more than voters. They will need more money earlier but spend much more time just running against the other party. It’s good for the “Hillarys” but is it good for the party?
Don’t know if anyone (redshift maybe?) has run across an explanation for Webb (or even Hagel) voting against Dodds proposal last week.
I mentioned last night the several month late NIE that Jane Hardin was asking for before the election. It still has not been produced. Will Bushco wait until Negroponte is out (because he wont write what they want him to) and the UN sanctions/ deadline with Iran is upon us?
Maybe FOX will get right on these topics since Obama denies them real faux news…
From the post title, I thought it might involve something about the percentage of the sheep population that is gay.
p.s. this is just one FDL post, a blast from the past about the “Maryland Moment”. here
I’m kind of wishing that Wes Clark leaves Fox. I appreciate his willingness to take them on on their dime, but I think his affiliation with them sort of taints him.
I see that the defense has subpoenad Jill Abramson….expect the trial to be extended by a couple weeks. Abramson is a sloooooow talker. Marcy’s fingers will get a well-deserved rest.
So that’s why they would call her.
-
Sparkles the Iguana @
79
I wonder how much her testimony will contradict Judy’s. Does anyone know if she testified in the GJ?
Frank Probst @ 40
I don’t think they were covering Obama. I thought they just picked up the story from Insight and ran with it without checking it. Then of course CNN sent a reporter to Indonesia to actually check out the school, and the editor of the Insight website defended himself by complaining that they didn’t have the budget to send a reporter to Indonesia. (We don’t have CNN’s budget, how could you possibly expect us to get it right??) Still, Insight is sticking by its story, amazingly.
I thought TRex’s picture might have been Mutton Jeff Gannon.
TRex @ 81
Her testimony will directly contradict Judy’s. I don’t know if she testified at the GJ.
Any time you write about Fox News, “journalists” should have mandatory scare quotes.
Rushton says
January 31st, 2007 at 10:08 pm
I’m kind of wishing that Wes Clark leaves Fox. I appreciate his willingness to take them on on their dime, but I think his affiliation with them sort of taints him.
Wes Clark will be on Hardball Friday. Actually it might be coverage of a speech(s) of his etc as opposed to him being live, since his Fox Noise deal limits his cable appearances.
Dude.
Check it out.
We’re about to get whomped.
‘Lo everyone. Back from a two day sick stint. Yay for combined nausea and abdominal pain. Ugh.
Glad to see someone getting a clue and telling Fox to piss off. Definitely needed for that useless noise maker of a news channel.
Did the NYT correct that article where they called Fitzgerald Fitzpatrick? I can’t find it online.
EPU’d - credit where credit is due (Biden tag):
punaise @ 116
TRex - You might like this site for weather info.
imo, it’s far more accurate than weather.com.
Punaise!
Valley Girl @ 65
now that is just rude. marci did such a great job explaining judys demeanor. it was so interesting and funny. wonkette is just jealous
Eureka Springs, AR @ 91
Oooooooh, they’ve got the pretty maps.
TRex @ 92
hey, Trex! I gotta go back up and read your post now….
Agreed. Marcy did an amazing job of conveying that Judy was doing the whole quivery Blanche DuBois bit for the court. That’s exactly the sort of thing we DON’T get from the Washington Post and NPR.
Fuck em. All the energy, all the zeitgeist, all the cultural momentum is with us. If big media won’t do its job properly, then we’ll be more than happy to do it for them.
Hell, we’re doing it for free already.
oops in SF:
yessir, pretty maps and no ads.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 98
Oooooh! No ads!! Of course, I didn’t notice until you pointed it out.
Sometimes I’m such a moron on the computer. My brother’s all, like, “Why are you doing it that way? It takes twice as many keystrokes.”
Of course, I instantly feel the need to respond to him in the voice of the French waiter from Monty Python’s “The Meaning of Life”, “Fahk yeu! Peess off!”
Eureka Springs, AR @ 75
I don’t have any inside information, but here’s my take, based on Webb’s appearance on Countdown that night or the next, where he stated specifically that he was in favor of the non-binding resolution, but only as the first of many steps.
1. Dodd’s proposal wouldn’t be veto-proof, and probably wouldn’t even pass the Senate, since Lieberman, at least, would vote against it. (There are issues where it’s politically useful to get a veto on record, but since Bush’s Cheney-you attitude on the war is well known, arguably this isn’t one of them.)
2. It was important strategically to get as many Republicans on record as possible against the surge, and especially John Warner, because it shifts the “safe” position for them.
Combining these two, I can see an argument that this is part of a political strategy for building the Republican support that will be needed to end the war with a veto-proof vote. Contributing to this will be the contractor-fraud hearings, the hearings on how extended deployments and stop-loss are breaking the military (someone’s announced those, but I’ve forgotten who), etc., which are just getting started.
Anyway, that’s my guess.