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		<title>By: llamajockey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/30/youre-fired-and-by-the-way-forget-the-bill-of-rights/#comment-484594</link>
		<dc:creator>llamajockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;ATTENTION!!! Anybody in the nursing and healthcare profession needs to be aware of the heinous corporatist SKIL bill that will be debated in the next couple of months.  The SKIL Bill was orginally designed to greatly expand the H1B, L1 and F4 visa programs that have destroyed millions of tech jobs in recent years. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson and John Cornyn are attempting to include in it provisions to allow for the importation by Big Healthcare of over 100,000 foreign nurses a year using the notoriously evil H1B visa programs’s wicked twin H1-C.  This is part of Karl Rove’s stated goal of busting the Nursing unions once and for all &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Corporatists however give it the wonder  sounding name The Nursing Relief for Disadvantaged Areas Act&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;See&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-07&quot;&gt;http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-07&lt;/a&gt; Skil Bill on the verge of passing.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-07&quot;&gt;http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-07&lt;/a&gt; H-1C Approved by Congress Goes to President Bush.txt&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Folks in the Nursing and Healthcare industry need to link up with all the new allies they kind for this fight.  Fertile ground for a revived labor movement could begin by continuing to reach out to the millions of Computer Programmers, IT workers and Engineers who have laid-off. The ranks of this nation’s formerly middle-class tech workers who were once touted as the country’s engine for prosperity have been decimated.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The primary culprit has been Global Labor Arbitrage the same phenomena hurting skilled manufacturing jobs.  Republicans and DLC Vichycrats have allowed Corporate American to run wild with the notoriously corrupt and unnecessary H1B, L1 and F4 visa programs.  Offshoring, Outsourcing or Insourcing, call what you will, it would not be happening without the huge number of “non-immigrant” indentured servants  that Corporate American is able to import each year.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For more information on the evils of the H1B and L1 visa programs please visit these websites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washtech.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.washtech.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Prof Norman Matloff has written hundreds of articles and commentaries on IT outsourcing and the H1B and L1 visa programs.  See:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/&quot;&gt;http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive&quot;&gt;http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the very first time in American History millions of formerly White Collar college educated workers who once believed that Unions were not for them or were even militantly anti-labor now see a need for unions.   These former self-style libertarians and former “Perot”&lt;br /&gt;
 voter have been given a huge dose of reality.  The days of “Welfare Capitalism/ Paternal Corporatism” that their father’s generation enjoyed are over. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the first time in history an European style labor movement linking skilled, unskilled, blue collar, white collar, working class, endangered middle class, uneducated, high school, trade school and college educated is possible in this country.  If only because the devastation the DLC Vichycrats and Buchco have brought about.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>ATTENTION!!! Anybody in the nursing and healthcare profession needs to be aware of the heinous corporatist SKIL bill that will be debated in the next couple of months.  The SKIL Bill was orginally designed to greatly expand the H1B, L1 and F4 visa programs that have destroyed millions of tech jobs in recent years. </b></p>
<p>Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson and John Cornyn are attempting to include in it provisions to allow for the importation by Big Healthcare of over 100,000 foreign nurses a year using the notoriously evil H1B visa programs’s wicked twin H1-C.  This is part of Karl Rove’s stated goal of busting the Nursing unions once and for all </p>
<p>The Corporatists however give it the wonder  sounding name The Nursing Relief for Disadvantaged Areas Act
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<p>See<br />
<a href="http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-07">http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-07</a> Skil Bill on the verge of passing.txt<br />
<a href="http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-07">http://www.zazona.com/NewsArchive/2006-12-07</a> H-1C Approved by Congress Goes to President Bush.txt</p>
<p>Folks in the Nursing and Healthcare industry need to link up with all the new allies they kind for this fight.  Fertile ground for a revived labor movement could begin by continuing to reach out to the millions of Computer Programmers, IT workers and Engineers who have laid-off. The ranks of this nation’s formerly middle-class tech workers who were once touted as the country’s engine for prosperity have been decimated.  </p>
<p>The primary culprit has been Global Labor Arbitrage the same phenomena hurting skilled manufacturing jobs.  Republicans and DLC Vichycrats have allowed Corporate American to run wild with the notoriously corrupt and unnecessary H1B, L1 and F4 visa programs.  Offshoring, Outsourcing or Insourcing, call what you will, it would not be happening without the huge number of “non-immigrant” indentured servants  that Corporate American is able to import each year.  </p>
<p>For more information on the evils of the H1B and L1 visa programs please visit these websites.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washtech.org/">http://www.washtech.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/">http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/</a><br />
Prof Norman Matloff has written hundreds of articles and commentaries on IT outsourcing and the H1B and L1 visa programs.  See:<br />
<a href="http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/">http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/</a><br />
<a href="http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive">http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive</a></p>
<p>For the very first time in American History millions of formerly White Collar college educated workers who once believed that Unions were not for them or were even militantly anti-labor now see a need for unions.   These former self-style libertarians and former “Perot”<br />
 voter have been given a huge dose of reality.  The days of “Welfare Capitalism/ Paternal Corporatism” that their father’s generation enjoyed are over. </p>
<p>For the first time in history an European style labor movement linking skilled, unskilled, blue collar, white collar, working class, endangered middle class, uneducated, high school, trade school and college educated is possible in this country.  If only because the devastation the DLC Vichycrats and Buchco have brought about.</p>
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		<title>By: janinsanfran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/30/youre-fired-and-by-the-way-forget-the-bill-of-rights/#comment-484162</link>
		<dc:creator>janinsanfran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A further part of the problem for many US workers is that the company you’ve heard of — say Nike or Genentech or Microsoft — isn’t really the employer, at least legally. Of sure, these outfits have a white collar, educated workforce, but the people who run their cafeterias, clean their buildings, mow their lawns, these folks are employed by contractors. And usually they get paid shit and have have no benefits. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other day I &lt;a href=&quot;http://happening-here.blogspot.com/2007/01/she-knows-who-she-wants-with-her.html&quot;&gt;went to a meeting&lt;/a&gt; where Dolores Huerta and some of the workers spoke about their conditions. Think how you’d feel if you did your job, day after day, no sick leave, hardly a vacation day, and then suddenly the big company decided to get another contractor and you’re out of a job, because you were never an employee. More and more folks find themselves in this situation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They need a union, but first they need basic respect.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A further part of the problem for many US workers is that the company you’ve heard of — say Nike or Genentech or Microsoft — isn’t really the employer, at least legally. Of sure, these outfits have a white collar, educated workforce, but the people who run their cafeterias, clean their buildings, mow their lawns, these folks are employed by contractors. And usually they get paid shit and have have no benefits. </p>
<p>The other day I <a href="http://happening-here.blogspot.com/2007/01/she-knows-who-she-wants-with-her.html">went to a meeting</a> where Dolores Huerta and some of the workers spoke about their conditions. Think how you’d feel if you did your job, day after day, no sick leave, hardly a vacation day, and then suddenly the big company decided to get another contractor and you’re out of a job, because you were never an employee. More and more folks find themselves in this situation.</p>
<p>They need a union, but first they need basic respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary McCurnin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/30/youre-fired-and-by-the-way-forget-the-bill-of-rights/#comment-484146</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary McCurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-483991&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @&lt;br /&gt;
                51              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-483948&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary McCurnin @&lt;br /&gt;
                48              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Punaise,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3D Illustrator here. Just saying . . .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there’s a fair bit of overlap in our fields, to be sure. I need to hire someone with an arch. degree, 7-10 years experience, and major AutoCAd skills.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No Autocad. Lightwave, Studio Max. Mostly product illustration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-483991"><em>punaise @<br />
                51              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-483948"><em>Mary McCurnin @<br />
                48              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Punaise,</p>
<p>3D Illustrator here. Just saying . . .</p>
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<p>there’s a fair bit of overlap in our fields, to be sure. I need to hire someone with an arch. degree, 7-10 years experience, and major AutoCAd skills.</p>
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<p>No Autocad. Lightwave, Studio Max. Mostly product illustration.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-483948&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary McCurnin @&lt;br /&gt;
                48              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Punaise,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3D Illustrator here. Just saying . . .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there’s a fair bit of overlap in our fields, to be sure. I need to hire someone with an arch. degree, 7-10 years experience, and major AutoCAd skills.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-483948"><em>Mary McCurnin @<br />
                48              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Punaise,</p>
<p>3D Illustrator here. Just saying . . .</p>
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<p>there’s a fair bit of overlap in our fields, to be sure. I need to hire someone with an arch. degree, 7-10 years experience, and major AutoCAd skills.</p>
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		<title>By: dab from CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>dab from CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-483905&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 16 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/30/193150/553&quot;&gt;sad news&lt;/a&gt; via DKos: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m sorry the news I bring is so dire, but many are wondering: Molly Ivins is indeed losing her fight with cancer.  She’s out of the hospital and back at home, on life support with organ failure. She is lucid some of the time, and spending her last hours with close friends and relatives.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m glad she got to go home. My poor dad wanted to, but ended up in the hospice wing of the hospital. (And, by the way, the nurses in ICU and hospice were fantastic &amp; supported my family in our wishes to stop prolonging my father’s suffering (doctors just don’t seem to want to let go).)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-483905"><em>punaise @ 16 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT, <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/30/193150/553">sad news</a> via DKos: </p>
<blockquote><p>I’m sorry the news I bring is so dire, but many are wondering: Molly Ivins is indeed losing her fight with cancer.  She’s out of the hospital and back at home, on life support with organ failure. She is lucid some of the time, and spending her last hours with close friends and relatives.</p>
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<p>I’m glad she got to go home. My poor dad wanted to, but ended up in the hospice wing of the hospital. (And, by the way, the nurses in ICU and hospice were fantastic &amp; supported my family in our wishes to stop prolonging my father’s suffering (doctors just don’t seem to want to let go).)</p>
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		<title>By: karen jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes! I’m now a card-carrying associate member of the USW, and proud of it!  All americans need union representation.  Thank you for keeping us informed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! I’m now a card-carrying associate member of the USW, and proud of it!  All americans need union representation.  Thank you for keeping us informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary McCurnin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary McCurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Punaise,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3D Illustrator here. Just saying . . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punaise,</p>
<p>3D Illustrator here. Just saying . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;katymine –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry about Miss Dog’s mastiff encounter!  Tandy (10 yrs old) is also a shy dog, but has been recovering from PTSD caused by a bite on the butt (drew blood!) from a neighborhood dog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She’s been recovering nicely thanks to the dog parks.  Where we go — people are very assertive about kicking out folks who have uncontrolled, agressive dogs.  People and dogs are very nice — and it’s heart-warming to see Tandy “bloom” like a shy grade-schooler in the playground suddenly blossoming with her social skills.  Other shy dogs seem to seek her out — they sense her understanding!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p.s.  I just LOVE beagles — grew up next door to a man who had at least seven at any given time.  I thus assumed that ALL dogs howl, that was the default natural dog sound to me.  Still makes me feel good to hear a howling beagle, feels warm like home!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p.p.s.  You sure have had some serious first hand experience of the injustice of employers and the exploitation of workers!  It’s going to be a long, long marathon of a battle to get justice.  But we mustn’t ever give up!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>katymine –</p>
<p>Sorry about Miss Dog’s mastiff encounter!  Tandy (10 yrs old) is also a shy dog, but has been recovering from PTSD caused by a bite on the butt (drew blood!) from a neighborhood dog.</p>
<p>She’s been recovering nicely thanks to the dog parks.  Where we go — people are very assertive about kicking out folks who have uncontrolled, agressive dogs.  People and dogs are very nice — and it’s heart-warming to see Tandy “bloom” like a shy grade-schooler in the playground suddenly blossoming with her social skills.  Other shy dogs seem to seek her out — they sense her understanding!</p>
<p>p.s.  I just LOVE beagles — grew up next door to a man who had at least seven at any given time.  I thus assumed that ALL dogs howl, that was the default natural dog sound to me.  Still makes me feel good to hear a howling beagle, feels warm like home!</p>
<p>p.p.s.  You sure have had some serious first hand experience of the injustice of employers and the exploitation of workers!  It’s going to be a long, long marathon of a battle to get justice.  But we mustn’t ever give up!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary McCurnin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary McCurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Molly. I love her. She always draws the curtain back so we can see the truth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Molly. I love her. She always draws the curtain back so we can see the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-483939&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary McCurnin @ 43&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;What do you do business wise?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;residential architecture&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-483939"><em>Mary McCurnin @ 43</em></a></p>
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<p>What do you do business wise?</p>
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<p>residential architecture</p>
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