
From the lead front page article in Tuesday’s NYT:
WASHINGTON, Jan. 29 — President Bush has signed a directive that gives the White House much greater control over the rules and policy statements that the government develops to protect public health, safety, the environment, civil rights and privacy.
In an executive order published last week in the Federal Register, Mr. Bush said that each agency must have a regulatory policy office run by a political appointee, to supervise the development of rules and documents providing guidance to regulated industries. The White House will thus have a gatekeeper in each agency to analyze the costs and the benefits of new rules and to make sure the agencies carry out the president’s priorities.
True to form, the White House explanation applies as much lipstick as it can to this very ugly pig:
In an interview on Monday, Jeffrey A. Rosen, general counsel at the White House Office of Management and Budget, said, “This is a classic good-government measure that will make federal agencies more open and accountable.”
And we have this assurance:
The White House said the executive order was not meant to rein in any one agency. But business executives and consumer advocates said the administration was particularly concerned about rules and guidance issued by the Environmental Protection Agency and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
Oh, well if that’s all they’re doing, we shouldn’t worry, because the only responsibility EPA has is to protect the environment and the public by identifying and mitigating the harmful effects of human activities on the planet and its inhabitants. And OSHA’s function is merely to make sure that America’s workplaces are relatively free of unshielded, toxic and hazardous materials and dangerous equipment and working conditions. No big deal.
Beyond the lipstick applied by the President’s men, we have a distraction: the increasing use by federal agencies of non-binding “guidance documents.” The Administration spin suggests that some agencies have been abusing the “guidance” process by issuing the documents without hearings or public notice, then allowing the documents to have the effect of binding regulations, while avoiding public scrutiny. Maybe, but I find the suggestion that the Bush Administration has been spending the last six years over-regulating the business community through “guidance documents” issued in the dead of night rather laughable. On which planet without global warming did that occur?
The Times article cites business leaders who are pleased and public interest advocates who are appalled at the President’s Executive Order, but I think Henry Waxman sums up what this is about:
Representative Henry A. Waxman, Democrat of California and chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said: “The executive order allows the political staff at the White House to dictate decisions on health and safety issues, even if the government’s own impartial experts disagree. This is a terrible way to govern, but great news for special interests.”
To understand why Waxman is right, here’s a personal anecdote. Many years/decades ago, I was the senior counsel at a state agency in California dealing with energy. The agency had a statutory mandate to adopt many types of regulations, such as procedural rules for ensuring public notices and meetings for power plant licensing and rules for how the agency examined and mitigated health, safety and environmental features of each plant. We were also charged with adopting regulations for how energy efficient new appliances (air conditioners, furnaces, refrigerators, etc), homes and office buildings (insulation, glazing, shading, thermal mass, setback thermostats, etc) had to be. The energy efficiency rules were designed to wean California off traditional fossil fuels and technologies, a goal considered extremely important back in the Carter years following the first and second oil embargoes.
Despite their importance to the nation, these regulations were always extremely controversial, with regulatory staff often strongly opposed by affected industries, Chambers of Commerce and powerful Republican legislators who could affect the agency’s budgets and appointments. Every time we tried to update these rules to reflect new technologies or new cost/benefit analyses, we met political opposition at every turn. But we had one powerful weapon: a statutory mandate adopted by the State Legislature and signed by the Governor. And our statute was clear: our job was to vigorously pursue energy efficiency and alternative fuels/technologies and adopt mandatory standards so that California’s economy and its people would be less vulnerable to foreign oil cartels, declining fossil fuels and environmentally damaging technologies. Sound familiar? Relevant?
Our main legal constraint was that we had to prove that the standards we proposed were technically feasible (e.g, that the materials/devices and/or techniques required by the rules were commercially available) and that the standards were cost-effective. The value of the energy savings had to pay for the costs of the materials/devices and their installation. We had to document everything and respond in writing to every single adverse comment — usually hundreds of them — then get our own Commissioners to agree and run the standards and the record through one or two other agencies designed to weed out unsupported (or unpopular) regulations. So this process was exhausting, but with the help of a handful of technical experts, economists and scientists, we met the statutory requirements, and usually in spades.
The remaining hurdle was political – convincing the appointed Commissioners, and the folks they had to answer to, that they and the agency could withstand the enormous political opposition to changing the way powerful industries (and their campaign donors) build appliances and homes and office buildings. I won’t tell you how we did this, but I want to tell the citizens of California that their government had a lot of very politically courageous and intellectually honest appointees, Commissioners willing to listen to the evidence, take the political heat and get the job done. And the result is that California adopted, beginning in the late 1970s, some of the most advanced standards for energy efficiency of any state or country in the world, and the pattern of California standards became the national model both for other states and for the federal government.
Some of my old friends/colleagues have continued to upgrade these standards every few years and they've forced the US Department of Energy, through repeated lawsuits, to continue to upgrade the federal appliance efficiency standards. These folks are my heroes. The efficiency standards they adopted are the reason that you can walk into any Sears and find efficiency labels on every major appliance you shop for, and why the models you choose from are all substantially more energy efficient than comparable models a decade ago, and why there are national standards for the efficiency of windows/glazing and so on, and why new homes have much more insulation and other energy-saving features than homes built just a few years back. And they are the principal reason that California consumers in their homes and offices use less electricity and natural gas per capita today than they used 30 years ago. That’s right, they use less.
Now let’s put the White House and the President’s Executive Order in the middle of this rule-making process. First, there will be a lot more paperwork, costs and delays for agencies trying to adopt new regulations:
. . . each federal agency must estimate “the combined aggregate costs and benefits of all its regulations” each year. . . . [I]n deciding whether to issue regulations, federal agencies must identify “the specific market failure” or problem that justifies government intervention. [And there are other paperwork requirements that invite delays, costs and litigation.]
Okay, we could do that, and maybe the costs and delays might not matter in the long run if we were persistent enough. But can I just point out that these executive "rules" add de facto requirements to rulemaking that are not authorized by Congress? This isn’t about a unitary executive; it’s about a unilateral executive that ignores the legislature and separation of powers. But this is the killer:
Mr. Bush said that each agency must have a regulatory policy office run by a political appointee, to supervise the development of rules and documents providing guidance to regulated industries.
There is no doubt in my mind that if we had had to contend with this degree of political interference, California would never have adopted most the regulations for improving energy efficiency. We were young, dedicated, determined, on a mission connected to national security and with strong public support — but we would have failed. And if folks like us had failed, that failure would have been multiplied across dozens of agencies like ours at the state and federal levels. And not just in energy fields, but also fields dealing with worker safety at OSHA, and federal mine safety, and the Highway Traffic Safety Commission, and federal fuel standards, and standards under the Clean Air Act, and the Water Pollution Control Act, and environmental limits of logging and misuse of federal lands and protections of endangered species, and . . . and every other government agency that has a statutory mandate to protect the American public and the environment we live in.
No matter how much they dress up this pig, it is not about better government or providing sunshine on secretive agencies; it is worse than putting the fox in charge of the henhouse. In the hands of the kinds of appointees we’ve come to expect from this regime, which has no qualms about distorting or suppressing science to serve its political ends, the President’s directive is a direct challenge to the notion that government exists to protect the public and enhance the public interest; it is an assault on responsive government itself. And it is the antithesis of this:
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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fitz?!
Mr. Bush rules by divine right. Doesn’t he?
Lipstick and pigs? Really had me going about what this one was about. Could apply to so many current topics.
AP – Federal scientists have been pressured to play down global warming, advocacy groups testified Tuesday at the Democrats’ first investigative hearing since taking control of Congress.
Tonight NBC’s Brian Williams (gasp) had a (surprise!) segment on how the White House supposedly edited scientific reports on global warning but the Pentagon guy hit the ball for GE and said Iran is being a baddie, folks, very bad. Sound familiar?
What a terrific, real life explanation of exactly what this means! Spread it far and wide!
Will the Times include Marcy’s book when it makes it to the top ten bestsellers?
Gulf of Tonkin in progress.
CNN is breaking news alleging Iran is responsible for the Karbala attacks last week.
Hold on folks, it is about to get ugly.
-GSD
Let’s hope Gore gets the Oscar and he gets to give his oscar award & his nomination acceptance speeches both at the same time.
Taking a clue from Mother Russia in its day?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparatchik
This guy has completely run amok with our Constitution.
Be prepared for the Bush press conference that begins:
My fellow Americans, on my orders….
-GSD
It’s a given. We’re going into Iran. And then what happens? I notice the Israeli government has been rather quiet recently.
They’ll push and lie and dictate and rule by decree…until someone or some group stops them. It’s that simple. The GOP work this way—crank it out to the wall and beyond and dare anyone to stop them, then scream and cheat and fight until they get the opposition to cave or they get something slightly less over-the-top. It IS a dictatorship in formation; total power from the core leader, backed by military force and without democratic checks and balances.
I hope to hell we are all ready to stop them dead in their tracks. We need nothing less than a revolution. (Now who’s that knocking on my door?)
EPU’d fm eriposte poste :)
William Ockham @ 109
Scarecrow!! Strong stuff. Intellect plus passion => powerful writing. Keep it coming.
This is the last Hagar the Horrible raid on the Treasury to rape and pillage for the mega-billionaire corporations.
And the chief means by which EPA does its protecting and OSHA does its insuring are rules that HOLD VIOLATORS ACCOUNTABLE for their violations.
Amazing. It’s not enough that BushCo wants to avoid accountability in government on all kinds of levels; now they want to privatize unaccountability!
More Orwellian monkey business as usual.
Off topic. Does anyone know if the Amazon links on the FDL page somehow are associated with our individual Amazon history? I only ask because I ordered some Tassimo coffee this morning and that’s what is showing up on their ad?
Republicans = party of smaller government
What a f*cking lie and a half.
Republicans = party of non-intrusive government
And another puking lie and a half.
This ought to be tattooed into every Republican, that their boy ORDERED an increase in the size of every single federal agency, for POLITICAL purposes only.
I want to cram this right down a few Repugs’ throats after all the puling I’ve heard about Democrats being tax-and-spend-Big-Government.
F*ckers.
PM approves eastward move of section of separation barrier
By Meron Rapoport, Haaretz Correspondent
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has approved the moving of the separation barrier at least five kilometers eastward from the Green Line in the area of Modi’in Ilit, in order to take in the settlements of Nili and Na’aleh, according to security sources and a brief submitted by the state to the High Court of Justice.
The new route will create two Palestinian enclaves containing about 20,000 people. Nili and Na’aleh together have some 1,500 residents.
Olmert approved the change in response to pressure from residents of the two settlements, both of which would have been left outside the barrier, according to the route approved by the cabinet last April. The new route will lengthen the fence by about 12 kilometers, which will cost an estimated NIS 120 million.
The result is that some 17,000 Palestinians will be stuck in an enclave bounded by the fence along the Green Line to the west, and the road and the Nili-Na’aleh fence to the east. Another village, with some 2,000 residents, will be enclosed by the new fence route on three sides.
raven @ 17
Amazon leaves a cookie that “remembers” what you looked at last at Amazon and that will show up on any site that has Amazon as an advertiser… so yes, you are being tracked… blow your cookies out and it won’t track you until you visit Amazon again (and all ya gotta do is visit, not buy to pick it up)
Bustednuckles @ 10
I used to travel from the free country to the totalitarian one. They used to listen to me about the virtues of democracy. Of course power and money speak loudly in both nations*. But I observe we have lost the high moral ground.
*If you steal 1/8 of the wealth of a large nation, it buys a lot of PR in other countries. Just saying. Not everyone advocating ‘democracy’ in Russia is on the side of the angels. It’s complicated. I promised TRex I wouldnt get upset on this topic so I’ll leave it at that.
If you are a Palestinian living in Palestine you reside in the Rez.
Breaking from the gulf of Tonkin news…
Scarecrow’s post hits right on target.
Most of the posters here will likely not understand the detail and experience on which this post is based. And it’s not so sexy as what Judy Blew Lies is hiding.
But the solution to our future is hidden in the details of this post. This is how amurka goes from point A to B. The possible salvation of a broken amurka is hidden in the details of California’s experiments.
One has only to see how Germany has taken the lead position globally from what California created, which means billions per year, to understand how valuable what the Scarecrow has written means.
Don’t suppose anyone has a plan to stop the invasion of Iran. Silly question when Specter is asking the AG at this late date what authority Congress has regarding war powers. If you have to ask, ….
I notice the “surge” involves a lot of helicopters. The plan must be to bomb Baghdad into submission. That’ll work the way the rest of it has.
Mmmm..cloned beefburgers….FDA approved
Thx
OldCoastie @
21
Scarecrow – another exquisitely written and highly informative piece. Thank you for the ground-breaking work you did years ago in California and for explaining just how bad this new underhanded executive order is.
BushCo is just determined to destroy this country isn’t it? They are turning back the clock to the era of the Robber Barons (or at least the pre-income tax 1920’s when the rich were richer and there were few government regulations).
Europeans fear US attack on Iran as nuclear row intensifies
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran…..29,00.html
High level sources are saying the Rothschild’s have issued a directive to the Rockefellers that Vice Terrorist Cheney is not to be touched.
Scarecrow –
Thank you. This is a great piece, one that I’ve been trying to write but which I’m too close to.
While I won’t be professional effected by the new Executive Order, I see it as a culmination of a set of tactics by the Bush Administration, through the auspices of the Office of Management and Budget and the Office of Personnel Management that make running the Federal Government increasingly difficult and politicized. In six years, under the guise of “good government” and “effective management” the Bush Administration has managed to screw things up completely.
I’m convinced that for every horrific violation of law and the Constitution the Bush Administration has committed, it’s these small things that really will create problems for all of us in the coming years.
Very short OT: Thanks, Marcy, for today’s trial coverage. The little comments are funny. Who was it yesterday who had “no discernable neck”? hah~!
Egregious,
My reference to Apparatchik was one of historical parallels.
Russia used to send apparatchiks with every military unit to make sure decisions made conformed to the political outlook.
This is exactly parallel to what Bush just did with our environmental and safety agencies.
katymine @ 15
Peterr @ 16
In many cases, federal regulatory agencies are under Congressional mandates to adopt new standards by a certain date, or under court order to do so, where they’ve dragged their feet. The Exec Order provides another delaying tactic, because the agency heads will claim that they just can’t get to that rule-making yet because they have to comply with the President’s Order and don’t yet have a political appointee installed as regulatory czar and don’t have the czar’s direction, etc, etc, etc. Of course, the whole notion is probably unconstitutional, but to show that, we’ll have to litigate. So I see this as stalling any useful regulations for the remainder of Bush’ term if not beyond.
GET A CLUE AMERICA!
IMPEACH THE MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!
thanks, Scarecrow – there’s all that and then it seems the shrub was trying to mow reporters down with a tractor today…
Look OUT! Bush behind the wheel!
Bustednuckles @ 10
I was thinking the same thing. We don’t need efficiency. We need purity and political commissars are exactly the way to go to ensure that.
By itself, this is reason enough to impeach. What more does he need to do before Congress pulls the trigger? What’s gonna be the tipping point?
I bloody seasick already.
I completely agree Scarecrow… it is…
Healthy ForestsLeave no tree standingHealthy Sky’sNo clean air left and EVERYONE has AsthmaProtect Corporations above everyday Americans. Above healthy children, above our senior citizens.
There are some days that I feel trapped in The Scream painting!
Where is “the front-runner”?
Crazy Horse @ 23
And meanwhile, California teeters with backsliding. The steps forward that started in the late 70s that scarecrow describes took a big hit in the late 90s as CA did its little dance with privatizing the energy system.
One of government’s chief roles is to police the marketplace. The NYSE, the high holy temple of the God of The Market, cannot exist without a baseline of trust, and government regulations serve to insure and enforce a level playing field. The extent to which the government abdicates its responsibility for holding folks accountable is the extent to which the government has failed the people.
Like his job approval ratings, Bush is apparently trying to see how low he can drive government responsibility.
Harold Ford. The new chairman of the DLC. There shouldn’t even be a DLC!
Russ Feingold on CNN/Wolf — says we should consider the judgment of those who voted for the Iraq war when we consider their qualifications for President. Pretty clear, no?
Once again we have only one solution.
Impeach Cheney
Impeach the Cabinet
Impeach Bush
You do the crime, you do the time.
GSD @ 8
The chief evidence for this view is apparently that the attack was well planned. This says a lot about the incredibly dismissive and condescending way the Iraqis are seen by us. If they were well planned and executed, Iraqis could not be involved.
Bustednuckles @ 10
Yes, in the Soviet Union, even the various military units had an assigned “apparatchik” or “political officer” to make sure that the unit operated in a political correct revolutionary manner.
Government agencies, manufacturing and farming entities were rife with these guys.
The incompetence and inefficiency of such folk were one of the reasons the Soviet Union eventually imploded.
So naturally, Bush decides to follow the Soviet example.
Iran. Playing in a war theater near you. Soon.
Hugh @ 45
Hey who knows maybe we were involved.
I really do believe Bush admires Putin. Perhaps more than ‘41′ even. It’s the ruthless thing.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 48
Maybe they could share some tea?
Hugh @
45
Yeah the examples they cited sounded frankly ludicrous. Soon we will see autographed headshots of Ahmadinejad as evidence.
This is the beginning, the second aircraft carrier is almost in place…the new leaders are in place. We may find out that the new military leaders are the ones who would support the Iran strike as opposed to simply just a surge…….
Now the ducks are in a row and quacking in unison.
Hang on.
-GSD
snip
I’m wondering if Bush had actually run over someone if he would have been given a breathylizer test…?
Tonight KO will be doing a special commentary in 17 minutes!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 12
Wrong! They just ordered $100 million in bombs from the US. They are packing!
CNN announcing that Bush, Pelosi, Reid agree to a bipartisan advisory group for advice on Iraq. But who will be on it?
Published on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 by Reuters
Congress Can Stop Iraq War, Experts Tell Lawmakers
by Susan Cornwell
WASHINGTON – The U.S. Congress has the power to end the war in Iraq, a former Bush administration attorney and other high-powered legal experts told a Senate hearing on Tuesday.
Well… Democrats.
Scarecrow @55- The Neo-cons.
peterr — Of course you’re correct, but here seems not to be the right discussion group.
Busted Knuckles @ 50. A second tea party is badly needed if it’s not too late.
OK everyone chant along with me:
What does Facism look like?
This is what Facism looks like.
What does Facism look like?
This is what Facism looks like.
……………..
Scarecrow @ 54
My guess would be these guys.
http://ok1tzd.goo.cz/Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil1.jpg
katymine @ 53
;0)
raven @
18
beware the cookies in your browser…
you leave little crumbs behind, and the big guys know how to sniff them up
Catching the late edition of Hardball here, so this is
freshraw right now…WTF does Tweety have going with Hlllary????? He’s back on her joke again.
Memo to Chris Matthews. Mr. Sunshine turns the channel whenever the word Hillary crosses your lips. And we put you in the same category as Toenails Morris and Falafel O’Reilly for your media stalking. Whatever your personal issues are, save ‘em for when you go home instead of parading your insecurities or psychoses or whatever in front of the world.
Well, hell yeah, I saw this coming. The propaganda machine is winding back up to full speed. Fuck this shit.
And I’m sitting here with Chris Matthews on (listening, not watching) thinking about these pundits and how we all sit around and listen to these goofball white men and they’re wrong about everything! Sheesh, I realize that’s stating the obvious, but I forget there are people who still don’t recognize what they are really seeing. A bunch of white men with a marginal understanding of the region talking about the Middle East, the most important issue in this country. God!
Well, at least Keith O is coming up to talk some sense.
I just wish Tweety would stop obsessing about Hillary. Get a room, Chris.
“Media stalking.” He should be arrested for it, too.
Besides the EPA and speaking of “mushroom clouds,” don’t forget the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
14 signs of Fascism
I think they have completed each and every step. So there it is…
Anatomy of Deceit now at #387 on Amazon!
Scarecrow @ 55
What difference does it make, I wonder? More stalling while he stokes the flame under Iran. Somebedy has got to do something.
Bionic @ 69
anatomy of receipts!
mandrake @ 70
YUP!
katymine @ 68
yup
Katymine: Yup Yup!! I’d love a T-shirt or FDL coffee cup with those 14 points on it!!
TTFN… going for my KO fix… and then buy my own copy of The Scream Painting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scream
A question for Plameolists: On tonight’s Hardball, Matthews seemed stunned by the Miller testimony suggesting that the VP/Libby knew that Cheney’s own inquiry had been the impetus for Wilson’s trip to Niger — Matthews interprets this as the VP admitting this for the first time, when all along they insisted that Valerie sent Joe.
Was this (1) an new acknowledgment (2) for the first time by Cheney? Or is Chris confused about this?
Wooo Hooo!
Helloooo Doggies!
FDL – what an embarrassment of riches! Great post, Scarecrow, as usual!
Keith just referred to “the current transients in the White House.”
Bwahahahah!
Oh, my, Arlen stands up the president again! Oh, dear, whatever will happen next? Will he just go ahead and take the final step into the abyss of total enablement of the president and gun down half the Democratic majority?
Scarecrow @ 76
My sense (but I am hardly a pro on this) is that to some extent this is one of those “shiny objects” in the case. In yesterday’s comments, there seemed to be a consensus that the decision to send SOMEONE to check out the story came out of an inquiry from the OVP, but that the selection of Wilson specifically, probably came at the suggestion of CIA and specifically someone who knew Valerie (or perhaps Valerie herself) because Wilson knew Niger so intimately having been an ambassador there.
Thanks, Keith, for again giving the honorable Russ Feingold some airtime. One of the few people that turn up on any of these shows that is actually worth a shit and has something to say that’s worth listening to.
Scarecrow @ 55
CNN announcing that Bush, Pelosi, Reid agree to a bipartisan advisory group for advice on Iraq. But who will be on it?
mandrake @ 70
What difference does it make, I wonder? More stalling while he stokes the flame under Iran. Somebedy has got to do something.
Exactly what I was thinking. We do not need another advisory group. We need to get out of Iraq and stay out of Iran.
I am truly disappointed in the Dems, with the exception of Feingold and Waxman and Waters and Kucinich (sp?).
Keith
talking about a Constitutional crisis at worst…clash between branches of government at best…
talking about rice not getting back to Jim Webb…
Richmond @ 74
Yup! We’re having a Sam Elliott moment.
mandrake @ 78
Yeah, that’s called The Specter Two-Step.
Some people say the administration must have taken Specter’s oncologists hostage. Whereas I say Specter’s been a hypocrital slime for a long, long time — all the way back to the Warren Commission.
I had the misfortune of shaking his hand once, when introduced to him by a Philly journalist. Slimy. His hands sweat a lot.
mandrake @ 83
Yup!
Holy crap. I never expected all that from Judy. In a room full of people who exercise some degree of poker face, Judy is all out there. I’ll have more sometime soon.
Jeebus!
“The Specter Two-Step” – I like it!
He always seems like he’s going to stand up right before he collapses to the floor again…
Mrs. K8 @ 84
Ew. I can imagine his handshake being creepy. Craggy old lying bastard! I really have sincere contempt for that man. In case that’s not obvious.
I guess I’ll have to read thru all the comments to search for my answer, but…..
After reading the first half of this post by Scarecrow, I find myself asking why this is such a big deal. All Federal agencies, departments (i.e. Defense Dept, State Dept.), etc. are headed by political appointees. That’s the system. Why is it so noteworthy that there will be some more lower level (compared to “head” of agency/department) political hacks? And if the rules are that you can put your boy in, then the rules would also say that when we take over, in say 2008, we get to put OUR boys and girls in. Cuts both ways.
OK, now that my initial thought is out of the way……….((reading)).
OldCoastie @ 87
Don’t think he ever gets past being on all fours.
Olbermann on Libby trial now…
Richmond @ 85
Start up a “yup chain.” Cristy would kill us.
OldCoastie @ 87
Arlen Ex-Specter-ates on the Constitution
Miller on the stand on KO right now
The corporate oligarchy is counting on people being clueless as they take over. The United States of America is no more. There has been a coup in broad daylight. The corporations have taken over, and we should all just shut up now. The New World Order: human beings are here to work and spend and pay and die and STFU.
mandrake –
Me too! “Ewww” is right! Went to the ladies’ room right after and washed the slime off.
My feelings about him are a little personal. Once upon a time he “represented” me in Congress.
He started his political life as a Democrat, but switched — WHY?
Because he’s an opportunist. Philly is a Dem town, and he didn’t like being a little fish in a big pond. By switching to the GOP he suddenly being a bigger fish in a smaller pond.
Had an easier time of it getting elected.
WHAT principles? They mean nothing to him. And not even a brush with his mortality — thanks to cancer — seems to be able to give him any genuine values.
Well, it’s HIS soul. He’ll be responsible for it, and for its damnation.
Just got an e-mail on this: am on air with Tony Trupiano. You can call in with questions:
888-573-8372
You can listen live here. (Forgot to repost this link for everyone and I got a couple e-mails asking. Ooops — sorry guys!)
Since 1971 when FBI agents came to VVAW meetings at our house I have assumed “the man” was on my case.
njr @
63
joysness @ 81
This is, I feel, really turning into an emergency situation. I am going to have to work hard on maintaining a sense of humor through this! It’s pointless to panic. But I feel like this nation is in meltdown mode and somebody needs to cool down the reactor fast! (thinking China Syndrome analogy)
mandrake @ 87
I wonder (as with Lieberlier) whether the Bush press to invade Iraq (and now Iran) to reshape the Middle East supposedly for the security of Isr*el didn’t essentially transform Spector into an apologist for the admin, someone willing to give away the Constitution among other things as payback for this act. In many ways, I think this is one of the most tragic things of this whole mess. And, of course, the counter response is that those of us who voice concern about this are in some way anti-sem*tic.
KO mocking Miller’s “product placement.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I think KO was reading FDL today.
It’s the Administration that’s on trial. I just hope that voters realize this. Of course none of this will matter much if Bush goes ahead and fulfills what this lunatic views as HIS destiny.
clueless @ 89
Here’s a partial answer: It’s true that Bush appointees to regulatory agencies are not likely to be inclined towards aggressive regulation in the public interest. But they have to comply with Congressional statutes and court order — see my comment at 34 — and they often become persuaded by staff, who tend to have careers beyond Presidential terms. So a new interference, coming in the last two years of Bush’ term, and more personally loyal to the WH can offset these factors.
Mrs. K8 @ 96
Ugh, that sounds about right. Really, where do these people keep their souls, in a drawer by the nightstand?
Ooops — flubbed the number:
888-573-8372
Five government officials, including ex-White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, also have testified that they discussed Plame and her CIA job with Libby before July 10.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..0bQ–
Hi Mrs. K8….. wave your way!
Here is a cute MP3 called Republicans Do Good
It is about Hagel but fits Spector
Oh boy, I can’t wait to see KO’s birthday present to Darth….
If the US invades Iraq, I expect we will be conquered. Perhaps North Korea will nuke the West Coast. More likely, China may follow through on their threat to dump dollars and invest in Euros, in which case, we will be effectively conquered.
It may be the Islamists are latter-day Visigoths. Every empire falls. I don’t fancy living under Sharia law but Clusterfuck seems bound and determined to destroy the nation. I could see us knuckling under to China.
Way to go comrade Clusterfuck.
LindaR- Wow, I’m impressed.
mandrake –
That “nightstand” remark! Good one! For some reason it made me flash on the movie “Ghost” — remember when the evil people died? Their bodies slumped to the ground and their souls were outlines of individual black abysses, being sucked up into an even larger abyss.
Back when Steve Clemons was fighting tooth and nail against Bolton’s nomination to the UN, Clemons was informed by more than one person “on the inside” that Karl Rove was pissed off over Steve’s blog and his blog’s influence — and that Rove read Steve’s blog and the comments there constantly to see what everyone was up to.
Upon hearing that, I left a message for Karl in the comments there. It went like this:
“Karl — A message for you:
‘For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, but to lose his immortal soul?’
You do remember who said that, Karl, don’t you?
You’ve been warned. It’s your soul.”
Uh, you left out the part where we unload our stuff on THEM.
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 109
Christy Hardin Smith @
105
Christy — when is this on? tomorrow a.m.?
Scarecrow @ 103
Anti-lame duck adminstration play.
We are the deciders even though we suck and are losing political power by the moment.
LindaR >
“The Matrix”
Will you have the blue pill or the red one ?
“As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.” – Voltaire
Scarecrow @ 113
right now – presently at commercial
I think it’s now.
Scarecrow @ 113
I want justice first. Then I demand accountability. I believe in the rule of law. Quaint perhaps. But true.
Scarecrow @ 112
Right now:
http://1480kphx.com/index.php?…..p;Itemid=1
link – Listen Now
Same network that interviewed Jane and Marcy on Sunday
Christy’s is on now. She’s very good. They are on break then call in questions.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 106
Ok why didn’t he plead out again…I mean won’t it be a longer sentence for the guy who doesn’t cooperate?
hi, katy! oh, katy mine!
Thanks for the link. It’s a good one! Hope you are well. Did I hear you have heating problems? Has it been fixed yet? Hope you’re OK in this chill! If you don’t mind a house that’s a total mess due to inability to tend to housekeeping, and if you don’t mind two smokers in the house, you are welcome to come over and get warm!!! {Reallly, the house is a mess! But it’s a WARM mess!]
Now I’m gonna go park myself in front of the teevee to give Keith’s special comment the attention it deserves.
Be back soon.
John Dean on KO
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 109
He has GOT to go!!
Smokers on FDL, OMG!
Mrs. K8 @ 122
TPM:
raven @ 125
We may all be brilliant, but we can’t all be perfect! ;)
Oops — sorry folks. I was fixing a typo and accidentally kicked the post into hyperspace. No need to adjust your tv sets. We’re back.
Special comment: Bush v Truth
I heart Olbermann!
A hero for the zeros!
Scarecrow @ 103
Scarecrow, thanks for responding. I spent 16 yrs with ‘the guv’ and a financial analyst-type person in a regulatory agency (ahh hell.. I was a bank examiner…). There was always the political influence in my agency (which, granted, was a small agency, but still…) and it was the WORST during the Reagan Years. Bureauocracies are set up to deal with political types – the system changes/adapts to the new political reality. Seems to me that the concept of “Cost vs. Benefit Analysis” is a proper system to have. But I am abundantly aware that the devil is DEFINITELY in the details of these types of analysis, to wit: Define “Cost, Define “Benefit”. To complete this analysis, the preparer has to fillin certain assumptions like: will the economy continue to grow at 12%? If yes, then……. But as an analyst seeking to lay the blame on someone for flawed analysis, my first question would be “Who decided that the growth would be 12% as you assume in your analysis”. Lays the blame right in your lap. Going forward, we know who to point fingers at. As opposed to the great nebuli known as “Government Bureaucracy”, where you can bury blame at many different levels and people.
So I guess I’m still not aware of the problem here. sorry.
MsAnnaNOLA @ 121
Kinda makes you wonder.
Do you think it is possible that Herr Rove has decided to see how far he can go to incite the impeachment process? Thinking that the only way to get rethuglicans to come to Bush’s defense is to have the DEMS impeach Bush. It is a bizarre strategy but not too far afield from the crazy thinking of Rove. A nutty offense is better than having no defense. While the Congress gets involved with impeachment, they continue raping this country and the world.
Just joshin around! I used to do all of it. As Mickey Mantle said, “If I knew I was gonna live this long I would have taken better care of myself!”
mandrake @
127
We have an insane Commander in Chief. He is going to blow up the planet, like General Ripper.
As I’ve been saying, for years, to anyone who will listen, these guys have been absolutely relentless in their desire to undo seventy years of goverment and to return this country to the Gilded Age.
If they succeed, the rest of the world will likely pass us by in developing the technologies which are going to be responsive to the problems we’re likely to have in the next two, three, four decades.
That means we lose further industrial base, are forced to buy the products resulting from that technology from offshore, and our financial situation becomes ever more precarious as we continue to spend, spend, spend on wars and military technology that remains largely hidden from view or is useless to solve the problems we should be solving.
How useful is classical conservatism’s primary tenet–do not change anything–when the world is changing as rapidly as it seems to be doing now?
Bush grew up in a household that hated the New Deal because his very wealthy relatives could not grow even wealthier even more quickly than they had in the past. From that, all else follows.
Idiots leading the blind.
Everythingseemssoneat @
110
Too strident?
raven: *puff* ;)
I believe we have witnessed the corporate rape of the United States over the last six years. And it’s not just the Republicans who are responsible for this debauchery.
Commercial break on teevee, so I’ll answer:
No, we ain’t perfect!
But one thing we are, is considerate. Whenever we have nonsmoking guests over, we remove ourselves to the back patio or the front porch or the upstairs balcony.
And we always are considerate in public spaces.
Not that you asked, just wanted to make clear that we may be reckless about ourselves, but we try to be thoughtful of others.
[That doesn’t completely handle residual smoke odors — but we strategically place bowls of white vinegar — this works wonders for smoke smell!!!]
Now, back to Keith-watching. Commercials over.
Scarecrow @ 103
montag @ 135
I heard Gore Vidal say essentially the same thing. He said these people are still pissed about the New Deal and want to completely take it apart. When he said that, it was like a light bulb went over my head, because it all finally made sense.
Im switching from Christy to KO But Keith’s special comment is coming up,
mandrake @ 142
I seem to be in reasonably good company, then. :)
I’m off the air, snowbird. No worries. *g*
CHS on KRXA – you were great as usual!
LindaR- No, stringent is good. Our fellow debt slave/serfs need to awaken.
Thanks, twolf1 — if you could have seen me balancing the phone, the laptop and a cuppa tea while I was on the air, you would have been laughing so hard. LOL
Commercials again.
When Rove stated — back in 1999 — that his FAVORITE president, his HERO was William McKinley, I thought oh-oh, we’re gonna be in big trouble if Bush gets in.
Sigh.
Bill Orally, WPITW.
Why do you hate the troops bill?
great timing CHS Thanks!!
Damn you type fast, KO hadn’t even finshed saying “in the world” and you were up!
Mrs. K8 @
149
Scarecrow @
43
Let’s hope Sen Feingold is also working to deter any foolish military action against Iran at this point, too.
urban pirate @ 150
He was worst and worser – got 2 positions this time.
urban pirate @ 150
Bill dropped his falafel on his loofah looong time ago.
urban pirate @ 150
Damn near fell out of my chair at that one ;-)
rumi @ 153
Until proven otherwise, I’d much rather put our efforts and energies into stopping another madman war.
Again, not arguing, just saying…..
I musn’t say that I want to kick someone named Bushs’ ass. So I won’t.
special comment time…
Everything finally makes sense — even Iraq, and even 9/11 — when you realize that Bush & Co. are not the President and administration of our country.
They are a gang of usurpers who got “elected” and sworn in and grabbed hold of the American treasury and military and regulatory agencies and spent every moment from the beginning leaching, like locusts, everything they can.
They don’t care about this country. The general welfare of the United States of America is not relevant to their reality.
raven @ 151
Fastest fingers in the West!
Actually, I started typing during WPITW, so I cheated.
We were laughing so hard at Oreally, we scared the dog.
rumi @ 153
You can that to the bank. Russ da’ man! Remember his attempt to censure the president? Like everything else he has done that is decent, like the resolution for a timetable for redeployment back in 2005, most Dems treated him like he had cooties. And he is one of the very few with a real, functioning conscience.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 158
Too late: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0130.html
Libby may one day go to jail. Bush and Cheney and Rove never will. This is justice?
KO “you showed us the same baby twice and said it was twins”, now my dog (the real raven) is worried!
Sign Feingold’s Petition to stop funding the war, if you haven’t already, and see a nice lil clip of Russ also.
raven @ 165
is your pet peeved?
Nope, I screamed with laughter and he headed for the hills!
punaise @ 167
clueless >
Especially when using, as the measure of value, the currently existing monetary systems (pick any of `em) that are built on top of extensive layers of “externalities” (as an economist would say, I`m NOT one).
The old private benefits & public costs game/scam.
If real world values were to be be used instead of phoney baloney currencies then the current behaviors justified by so called economic “analysis” couldn`t “hold water” for more than about 12 seconds & the high flyers would be on street corners begging for shelter etc.
Can`t use real numbers of course, that would be “unacceptable”.
(Earth v Money Worship)
“Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.” – John Maynard Keynes
Oh god, Scarborough, cranking up the fear-0-meter. Guess it’s justified by now.
Surprise…Scarboro NOW
Iran probably attacked us personnel…
surprise surprise….
oh look, Iranian agents killed Americans…
anybody believe this? anybody?
Scarborough is saying we are going to attack Iran. Tonkin has arrived. Oh boy. A brand new war!
KO didn’t do Scarborough any favors with his special comment…
Here it comes, folks.
Gulf of Tonkin Incident 2007
God, I saw this coming! I saw it! I knew some kind of shit like this would go down and they would say it’s Iran, whether it’s Iran or not, they’re going to say it is so they can crank up the war machine to full tilt. I don’t know where the fuck they think they’re going to get the bodies for this unless they reinstate the draft.
Somebody stop the madman, really Dems, you gotta do something now. LISTEN TO FEINGOLD!
raven @ 167
When we roared at “Why don’t you support the troops, Bill?” poor Tandy leapt to her feet from a snoozy state, circled about, then stared at us with her head cocked — “R U guys crazy?!?”
Did we give them the uniforms for this and help them do it?
Michael Isikoff says we should treat this with caution and skepticism…there is troubling evidence suggestive of Iranian evidence…
I’m beyond Iran. I’m already into the whole Middle East engulfed in flames. And then…? This is the ramp up to Iraq redux.
Nice to see some debunking — immediately following the report this time, not days later.
Sounds like a fantasy.
[Dick’s fantasy.]
Libby? Who’s gonna care if Iran happens.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 180
If we don’t stop Bush, do you think
the rest ofthe civilized world might decide they have to?The gov’t report seems to say “It MUST be Iran, since the attack was competent.”
So — our gov’t thinks the only actors in the ME who are competent are Iranians?
Interesting.
I guess the old Iraqi Republican Guard types and Saddam’s other henchmen don’t know anything, huh?
I think the decision has already been made to attack Iran. Done deal.
So the NBC exclusive story is that the Shiite Iranians infiltrated a meeting between US officials and Shiite leaders in the Shiite city of Karbala, which was held for the purpose of protecting Shiite travelers coming to Karbala for a Shiite holy day. The Shiite Iranians then helped pull off the killing and kidnapping of several US soldiers protecting the meeting designed to help Shiites.
Okay.
new thread
Oklahoma kiddo @ 180
I guess this is gonna play real well with the Rapture audience. May be able to coax back a few of the votes they lost to the pedophile/male prostitute/meth thing.
I hope Joe doesn’t have Pat B on tonight.
New thread upstairs.
LindaR @ 182
Yes. Yes, I do.
Juan Cole has spoken a lot about the Iran effect. He has said that this info has been inflated.
Ill wait to tomorrow to see what he says.
LindaR @ 183
Perhaps. But how do they stop this madman? I’m worried.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 185
I think so, too. This is just the proof. If he isn’t stopped, it will go forward. He has to be stopped.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 192
I think you and I are on the same page!
Isikoff
4 years ago evidence was stronger about Iran than Iraq. Duh! mandrake @ 193
Unquestionably. How? Seems to me there is only one way, cut off funding, mandate withdrawal…when he refuses…impeach.
I would impeach alreay but seems our congress is taking its time and I don’t think we have much time.
Condi Rice is refusing to answer whether the admin thinks they have the authority to invade. Her silence speaks volumes. They think they have it and will stall.
They clearly don’t have the authority on their own. Congress declares war. That is very clear.
If they continue to act without congress advice and consent, they must be removed.
LoudounLib @ 156
I did choke. I was drinking a glass of water at that moment, and damn near drowned.
Bush & Co. think this country is their privately owned company and all they want from us is to pay their way and to keep our mouths shut. So far, we’ve done a good job for them.
mandrake @ 162
Yup, I agree but it wasn’t very long ago that even Russ was advocating military action against Iran. I lost track of that position recently and it could be that he’s as concerned about the negative consequences as we are.
I’d like to trust him.
Reminds me of the Soviet political officer who was ubiquitous.
Somewhere in my late night reading last night I discovered the NIE that Jane Harmon was asking for before election day has yet to be delivered. I think it was an article referring to hearings (this week) with Negroponte and he was asked to hurry up.
Why is congress allowing an NIE to be held up for many extra months? I thought it’s supposed to be a quarterly report.
There Isn’t Enough Lipstick . . .
Hell, by the headline I thought this was the article on Judy Miller’s testimony.
Sorry, wrong room.
great post, scarecrow, I appreciate your past efforts (having lived in CA for 10 years and being quite knowledgeable about environmental/energy issues) and your writing about this today.
there isn’t enough lipstick in all the macy’s stores in the world that can dress up this pig….and make him/her kissable or attractive. bleck!!
my god can america survive this kind of assault?
So much for the party that hates bureaucracy. He wants to shrink government by creating this new office that will require another budgetary stream within an agency’s budge.
I think Congress has to approve changes in agency structure and this is a major change in agency structure. Are the policy office appointees subject to the same Senatorial scrutiny as the other high-level appointees?
MsAnnaNOLA @ 121
Man it sure does seem like he’s taking his lumps pretty heavy so far. Curious strategy.
Maybe he figures he’s fucked either way, so he’s sliming the White House – ‘no pardon, fine I’ll go to trial and expose all your shit. Either way, I’m fucked. By you.’
MsAnnaNOLA @ 121
OR, maybe he and Fitz have an agreement: Let me batter you (AND the White House) in court, and I’ll take it easy on sentancing. But at least you (and I) get to fuck this White House over!
FBI turns to broad new wiretap method
The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than previously has been disclosed.
Instead of recording only what a particular suspect is doing, agents conducting investigations appear to be assembling the activities of thousands of Internet users at a time into massive databases, according to current and former officials. That database can subsequently be queried for names, e-mail addresses or keywords.
Such a technique is broader and potentially more intrusive than the FBI’s Carnivore surveillance system, later renamed DCS1000. It raises concerns similar to those stirred by widespread Internet monitoring that the National Security Agency is said to have done, according to documents that have surfaced in one federal lawsuit, and may stretch the bounds of what’s legally permissible.
http://news.com.com/FBI turns to broad new wiretap method/2100-7348_3-6154457.html?tag=alert
I would say that it is time for him to be fired by the donald. Kicked to the curb so to speak along with the rest of the party offal.
Didnt’ we used to call these people comissars?
What I would like to understand is where do these bills come from?
Who makes them up… meaning, who thought of it?
why did they think of it? what conversation was taking place where when someone thought/said this seems like a good idea?
And why are these things announced after the fact? Is that even legal?
(HA!… like that matters to them.)
I really don’t get it.
I cannot believe that the person who signed the bill came up with the idea on his own. Though, since it is destructive and adds another stick to the camels back, perhaps I am wrong.
How do these things get started and get finished, and why are there not hearings or discussions with the congress before this can be made law?
Sorry for the ignorance, not a lawyer, newbie here.
can you say “Zampolit”?
It is un-Constitutional on its face. Just hope that the Congress gets its act together and demands an explanation from this so-called President about how this could be legal…or can we just get on to impeachment of this administration NOW!