
Go buy Anatomy of Deceit . Don't update agressively. And don't expect a transcript.
Judy back. Looks like she's doing breathing exercises, pouring herself water. Got out of chair and is now back. Gets more water. Thanks person who brings more. Looking around cautiously. Closes eyes. Breathes. Breathes out. Looking straight foward. Head darts nervously. Staring forward. Shifts in chair. Looks toward Libby's team? Looks towawrd lawyers. Adjusts blouse. Looks at lawyers again. looks down, folds arms. Looks down. Looks toward Libby's team. Folds arms, leans back, turning in swivel chair. Takes glasses off. Looks for tissue to wipe her hands.
This is not the picture of someone who is relaxed.
Jury back in.
3:16
Jeffress back up.
J Let's go back to the beginning of the investigation that began--do you recall when it began?
M I don't recall, I don't remember when the Taubman discussion was
J Did it occur to you to think whether you were somebody to whom such a leak had been attempted.
M I was concerned [pasue] sir
J Did you remember that meeting.
M I don't remember what I remembered then.
J You were issued a subpoena, you retained counsel or NYT retained counsel, did you think, what you would say if they asked you questions
M I wasn't being asked what I remembered at that time, sir
J Did you remember at that time your June 23 meeting
M I don't know, I discussed my meetings with Libby within my newspaper
J Did you discuss the June 23 meeting within your newspaper
M I discussed a series of meetings I don't recall referring to that specific meeting, I discussed my concern about possibly receiving a subpoena. I was not thinking about what conversations before I received the subpoena,
J When was the subpoena
M Sir, the subpoena asked for meetings and discussions from July. My counsel asked me to review my notes pertinent to July, that's the information I reviewed, I didn't look at info before or after
J Did you think about it?
[Jeffress keeps screwing up date, Judy and Jeffress sharing a laugh]
M I know I expressed concern to in-house counsel, I don't believe we discussed a specific date. I was subpoenaed from July until the Novak column appeared
J Isn't it true that you didn't remember
M Between time I received the subpoena and time I
M I did not
J Did you remember any conversation between time you got subpoena to time of tha meeting
J Is the answer to my question that you didn't remember meeting with Libby on June 23
Walton--I don't think she said that rephrase
J Did you remember meeting with Libby on June 23, you didn't remember it after, when you were fighting the appeal.
M No, I didn't remember a specific meeting
J Did you think about this matter while you were there in Alexandria Jail
M I thought about importance of protecting confidentiality of Mr Libby until I ever got a waiver. I thought about how I would be sure that Prosecutor wouldn't be conducting a fishing expedition.
J You didn't remember when you were in jail, when you got out of jail, you went before the GJ, you swore to tell the truth, you were asked, when you went into the GJ, do you recall if you met with Libby in late June, by first meeting with Asst Jenny. The first GJ at page 11.
GJ transcript on screen
3:24
Sidebar
Judy trying to follow sidebar. Then she loks toward Libby. Swallowing hard, She IS ONE STRESSED person. Looks to lawyers. Tries to look at sidebar. Arms folded, looking hard to her right. Looking for something, looks like she's sweating under her eyes. Looking for tissue or something, Rubbing nose with back of sleeve. Unlucky Judy, just when she gets her tissue.
Now bringing up GJ testimony.
And do you recall if a few weeks earlier you had met with Mr. Libby some time in late June, by first meeting with his assistant, Jennifer or Jennie.
I have a very, I don't know if I met with him. I remember meeting with Jennie.
J You didn't go into the GJ to lie.
M I did not remember it. I didn't remember that it even occurred.
J You've testified to his demeanor, very particular things that he said, said the wife "works in the bureau."
M Sir, having reviewed my notes, I have a memory of it.
M [With gusto] No, I have a MEMORY of it.
J Do you recall testifying to te GJ that
Now she's got a pissed look on her face.
J Did you say to the GJ:
I really have to rely on my notes because my memory is not good
M Sir, I'd like to see the context of that.
J Were you asked the following question.
Judy swallowing nervously.
And is it fair to say that in describing Wilson's wife, your best recollection is he did not refer to her by name?
J You remember bureau today even though you forgot about it for three years. So you don't need your notes to remember Mr Libby said Wife Works in Bureau, but you would need notes to remember anything else about the meeting
J Do your notes say "irritated"
M No I read my notes and I remembered
J Do you have a good memory
M About some things
J Do you remember appearing on Digital age, do you remember saying "Wilson's wife didn't mean a thing to me"
M I remember saying one tends to remember things one writes about
J You didn't have a good memory because it wasn't important to you
M I think what I was trying to indicate, I was focused on what had happened was what happened to intell
Jeffress plays one minute clip from program
3:37
Judy watching Judy, she nods when she sees herself saying "It didn't mean anything to me." She nods vigorously.
J What did you mean when you said it only bc important when this blew up
M When subpoenas were being issued
J and it was important to you when you got a subpoena, but you didn't remember that meeting
M Counselor I've already said, I just didn't remember it. [waves hand, has her indignant voice on]
J You remember being asked. Let me go back, set the stage. After you didn't remember this meeting at all, you went back after finding that there had been a meeting. What date did it say
M 5/23.
J But you know there was a meeting on June 23
M I don't know what was in Mr Libby's calendar
J After you found that notebook, you gave it to your lawyer, you testified a second time, you testified about that conversation
M yes (meek)
J Do you remember that you told the GJ on that occasion, you had now produced all of your notes?
(no audible response--she must have nodded)
J Did you tell GJ your memory is sparked by notes
M I think in certain contexts I said something like that.
J That was a general question
M Generally I'm note driven and they bring back a memory. [realizes she has testified that she doesn't know who told her the name] Or they don't.
J Do you remember my question
M Sighs.
J Your memory is note driven and you don't have an independent memory. You said, you just have to be specific about this because my memory is note-driven. Is that true. [raises voice]
M Yes it's true
J Without using a single note you told the GJ all these details
M I've thought about those meetings, reading those notes brought back my memory about those memories.
J Your memory is largely note-drive
M Largely note-driven
3:44
J Do you recall that before ever meeting with Libby on June 23 you had been looking at the stoyr about uranium
J Did you have his name Joe Wilson and his telephone number and extension.
J So who did you talk to about Joe Wilson
M I don't remember
J Do you remember talking about Joe Wilson
J You told that someone had talked to you about Joe Wilson but you don't remember too.
J Do recall telling the GJ that his name was in your notes before June 23, So someone may have told me, but I don't remember.
M reading, GJ up on sccreen.
J was that your testimony.
M Looks closely at screen, follows with her finger
J How many people did you talk to, it was lots, wasn't it
M There were many people I talked to about WMD, and I have a vague memory of talking to them about it.
J What is "it"
M Joe Wilson
J There were several people you talked to about Wilson and Plame, before Novak's columne ever came out.
J You may have talked to someone about it before Mr. Libby
M I Don't remember talking about his wife before talking to Mr Libby
J You have no memory about that
J You testified that you didn't read newspaper
M Yes
J You started reading when you came back Did you read your own newspaper?
M Not particularly. I read the competition.
J So if an article appeared in NYT on WMD after you returned, you likely would have read it.
3:49
Putting exhibit up. White House in Denial--Kristof's article
J That's an article by Kristof
M Yes (sounds weak)
J Do you recall seeing that article at the time it was published
M No I don't
J Do you recall reading or hearing at the time about an unnamed ambasador?
M Yes
J Mr. Kristof writes on June 13, less than a week after you got back from Iraq, highlight first two paragraphs
Judy is reading
J Do you remember hearing about this (Condi's MTP appearance)
M mmmm hmmm, I remember hearing about it.
J It would be pretty surprising if true that something had been flatly discredited,
M [pause] Yes
J Goes onto the Wilson section of trip. Reading more of Kristof
J You came to find out that not only did Wilson not report any documents,
M I Don't know what Wilson saw and didn't see
M Libby complained about quality of Wilson's investigation
J Did you read Tenet's statement
M I probably did
J Did you read other articles concerning forgeries.
J Okay, you do remember, you do remember (in his soothing voice)
M I remember what has been claimed on all sides, but since I didn't interview Mr Wilson I don't know what he said or didn't say.I know what he said in his book.
J Oh, you read his book.
M I glanced at it.
[Media room erupts]
J Did you have any notes of meetings with Libby while you were in jail.
M No
J Concerning your decision to resist that subpoena. You decided to resist it originally and to assert what's called a journalist's privilege. You knew... did you know that SCOTUS had decided that there generally was not any privilege.
M That's one interpretation of Branzberg decision, sir
J that's one interpretation?
M Yes
J Did they show you a waiver and request to testify from Libby. Did the govt inform you that Libby had waived confidentiality.
M The govt did not assert that.
J Did you go to jail for 85 days before you didn't believe Mr Libby had signed a waiver
M I went to jail because the waiver my lawyer told me
J that's hearsay.
Judy is shaking her head in frustration.
I'm going to start a new thread.
3:59
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the fidgeting concerns me… has she been coached?
what is she nervous to reveal?
Maybe Fitz can get her angry.
(from the wiki link)
How’s your aspen so far today, Judy ?
Oh, she’ll be in little girl tears before long.
Breathe, Judy, breathe.
Yee ha!
This is not the picture of someone who is relaxed.
Heh!
Sparkles the Iguana @ 7
Run, Forrest, Run!
I’d bet my last dollar she’s not telling “the whole truth”
she seems a hostile witness. 1st met Libby sometime between 9/11 and Iraq war! several times i thought Fitz would ask her to be declared hostile.
Aquafina ought to sponor Judy the way she quaffs the stuff down.
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EW–I promise to buy this book but I just mentioned in previous thread, is there a plan for a second book, post trial, “My Adventures in Live Blogging”?! I promise to buy it if you write it.
Sounds like she’s trying desperately to remember her testimony last time around.
I still can’t get past the whole “Oh, what’s this bag of notebooks under my desk?” scam.
Shambola!
MARCI this is perfect fantastic job
Seriously, I think she’s having a panic attack.
Fantastic description of Judy’s restlessness. Oh dear…
Those dreaded mobile bio labs were actually dreaded hot air balloon labs…..
Very menacing to have dictators with balloons.
-GSD
I still can’t get past the whole “Oh, what’s this bag of notebooks under my desk?” scam.
I’m with you, wt. It came across like an unexpected visit from the Notebook Fairy.
Thank you Firedog team! This is the most fun I’ve had in a loooong time. ( I need to get out more )
Sweat Judy. Sweat!
She can’t handle the truth. Go git ‘er Fitz.
-GSD
LOL! What a friggin drama queen! And one almost feels sorry for Scooter, he’s the one with his ass on the line, and she wants his sympathy!
Christy Hardin Smith @
14
Shorter Christy: Preview is your friend.
EW writes: she looks toward Libby team? Hmmm. The aspens are turning, the roots intertwined.
Paul Wolfowitz…His socks are just like his arguments for going to war.
Full of holes.
-GSD
Me-thinks the defense may have a productive cross with Judy and get some of their Mojo back…She has too much to hide
We’re in sidebar right now–Jeffress tried to put her GJ testimony on board,
I want this on a t-shirt with Judy’s face on it:
TeddySanFran @ 31
A fundraiser for Plame House, perhaps?
meta: does preview contribute to server load? I’ve seen the site choke more on preview than on submit in recent days.
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> LOL! What a friggin drama queen!
> And one almost feels sorry for
> Scooter, he’s the one with his
> ass on the line, and she wants
> his sympathy!
Depending on how long the appeals take, and when Libby gets his pardon, Miller might end up serving more time in jail than Scooter. And it is unlikely that she will ever make the kind of money ever again that Scooter will get from his “think-tank-for-life” position after he is sprung.
So she may very well have received the worse end of the deal.
Cranky
am I nuts (don’t answer that please) or did Judy just say that Scooter told her that the Congress of this country didn’t get the CIA report saying the whole uranium, myranium thing was bogus?
gee, he should have a security clearance if he tells the NYT what the senate and house don’t
EW: “Here she comes [Judy]. White shirt, big lapels. No glasses. … She doesn’t seem like she’s breathing.”
Oh my God! Judy’s a bloodsucking vampire!
(Pause)
Ok, busted. You’re right, I was only feigning surprise.
Mocha Dem @ 29
I suspect she has too much to hide about her involvement with the PNAC bunch… secrets which will no go toward exculpating Libby…
pseudonymous in nc @ 33
Yes it does, but no more than “refresh comments” does - but if you get a couple hundred folks all refreshing and previewing at the same time . . . that’s gotta pinch.
From EW’s reporting –
“M[iller:] Two streams of reporting on uranium and efforst by Iraq to aquire uranium, first stream reports like Wilson, –then made an aside, Wilson’s wife works at WINPAC Weapons Intelligence Nonproliferation and Arms Control, specifically focused on WMD.”
Hmm.
I’m wondering two things here.
1) Will the jury pick up on the discrepancy between Miller’s and Fleischer’s testimony; i.e., that Libby told Miller VW worked for WINPAC, whereas he told Fleischer that VW worked for CPD?
2) Why didn’t Fitz point that out?
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All I could think was, I wish she’d been hooked up to a lie detector with a big screen showing the readings to the jury….
She would have gone off-scale on “Gee, I just found this notebook that had notes from a June meeting… gosh…”
and “I didn’t think I had anything to do with a planned leak…” “who me?” “The mouthpiece for Bush’s White House??” squeak squeak
For some answers she uses the word “sir” and a other times not. Is this so? Am I paranoid that this is a code?
EW: Yep. What did I tell you? Just keep doing it. Yet up from maybe two hours ago:
FWIW: Yes. You definitely should write another book on the trial.
Does anything about Judy’s appearance suggest bowling pin?
Thinks to self: “can’t believe 12mgs of Ativan could possibly wear off this quickly.” Makes mental note to take IV “push” at break.
cl
41: Yes, you are paranoid, and you should also recall that this is not a word-for-word transcript.
watertiger @
16
Yah, conveniently found at the last possible moment?
Depending on how long the appeals take, and when Libby gets his pardon, Miller might end up serving more time in jail than Scooter. And it is unlikely that she will ever make the kind of money ever again that Scooter will get from his “think-tank-for-life” position after he is sprung.
So she may very well have received the worse end of the deal.
Cranky
Well, you have a point there…though 85 days in the Alexandria jail is not exactly hard time. Also, I don’t buy the notion that there is any guarentee implicit or otherwise that Libby will get a pardon. It could undermine his usefulness as a scapegoat.
Fitz probably has someone there to steal her signs, baseball aficionado that he is.
I’m going to have to do a count later of the number of times Miller says “I don’t know” or “I don’t remember.”
“I suspect she has too much to hide about her involvement with the PNAC bunch… secrets which will no go toward exculpating Libby…”
Whatever. She’s covering for big fish who are/were permanent DC fixtures, no itinerant partisans.
Horse doo-doo.
She doesn’t seem to have spent her time in jail productively.
M I don’t recall.
M I don’t remember what I remembered then.
M I wasn’t being asked what I remembered at that time, sir.
I don’t recall referring to that specific meeting,
J Isn’t it true that you didn’t remember
M Between time I received the subpoena and time I
M I did not
M No, I didn’t remember a specific meeting.
The NIE in question was published in redacted form last year. The CIA doc questioning Niger story was submitted as an attachment to it.
sdf (Stu) @
46
While on the phone with her attorney??
I’m glad I’m not one of the jurists on this. I mean, it’s fascinating and all, but this is all making my head spin/hurt.
i don’t understand the reference to Wilson as “a clandestine guy.” is she talking about before his ID was known? referring to the unnamed source in Kristof’s column?
Noticed that Fitz kept it short and sweet and got to the meat of the matter: June 23rd. She didn’t tell the GJ that originally and the “FOUND” her notebooks. Ha! He threatened to get her for perjery if she didn’t fess up.
JGabriel @ 39
Here’s my theory: (a) it doesn’t matter to the perjury charge; but (b) the discrepancy probably flows from the fact that when he was talking to Ari, he told him what he actually knew — that she was CPD — and telling him it its sensitive, be careful how you tell reporters (”it’s hush hush and on the Q/T”), whereas with Miller, he was leaking directly to the press, so he told her that Plame was in the division that dealt with WMD that WASN’T in the Directorate of Operations, so that Miller wouldn’t be hesitant about printing it.
Woodhall Hollow @
47
Well, you have a point there…though 85 days in the Alexandria jail is not exactly hard time. Also, I don’t buy the notion that there is any guarentee implicit or otherwise that Libby will get a pardon. It could undermine his usefulness as a scapegoat.
Although the defense is trying to make the case that no one has a good memory, it seems that it is making a better case that ALL of them are liars, which of course would make Libby just another liar, only a “stupider” one. I wonder how the jury is going to parse that?
M I was concerned [pasue] sir
Let’s ask emptywheel about the “sir” Remember the Aspens. I’m probably wrong, but just in case…
Is Mrs. Libby in the courtroom today? If so, is Judy getting the evil eye?
Woodhall @60
which of course would make Libby just another liar, only a “stupider” one.
That’s what I am taking from this. Everyone knew how to cover their tracks except Scooter.
IANAL, but I suspect that Fitz let Judy’s claim that “teh wife” was WINPAC go because the fact of Plame’s status is not material.
It is interesting, though, because if Judy knew anything about CIA she would have figured that: 1) Plame probably wasn’t under cover (WINPAC is Intel, not Ops); 2) she was part of the analytical arm that was more amenable to OVP’s view of things.
That could have been a deliberate distortion by Libby to offer Judy some plausible deniability wrt a leak: Ooops, she’s ops? Oh, I’m terribly sorry, I thought she was a desk jockey in intel! See?
Snake pit.
Terre @ 51
OTOH Judy has a really bad memory with plenty of holes in it, but at the same time she possesses a memory that is so specific that it can be set like your Tivo. For June she has nada but as soon as July kicks in her memory turns on, yeah right.
Sounds like someone’s starting to tear up a little?
Or else she’s allergic to cross-examination.
Looks like Judy “forgot” to “remember.”
at this point the jury has no reason to know the difference between WINPAC and CPD…. and the difference is not relevant to the charges of perjury and obstruction.
Someone ought to offer Judy a cup of tea and a madeleine.
Can somebody explain to me how this is helping Libby? Sure, the defense is making her look bad, but bad in a way that makes it seem like she has been collaborating with him in hiding their conversations from Fitz and the GJ.
I am astounded at the accuracy of marcy’s typing.
watertiger @ 67
Maybe a quick flashback on the lunch special in jail.
John at 61 — Most likely, Bennett has prepped her not to be rude to either counsel. I used to do this with my clients/witnesses when they testified. Saying “sir” keeps you from saying something like “asshole” or “jerk” — which, when you are dealing with some criminal cases, can be an essential tool to teach certain witnesses. I’d sayit’s Bennett prep for Judy to stay focused when answering questions from counsel that she’s clearly feeling like will be hostile toward her (and for good reason, considering defense motions about her prior to trial…).
Woodhall Hollow @ 25
Sounds more like a hot flash, she appears to be the rignt age.
Bring it home Judy.
Thanks EW and all others for this. Keep up the good work you are making history.
She’s text-driven, a textual kinda woman. Everything is text. There is no outside of text. She’s driven by poststructuralism of the French kind.
*do not hit refresh…do NOT hit refresh*
I’m going to have to remember that one. “I have a note-driven memory.”
M Generally I’m note driven…
I would’ve gone with “ego-driven”, but whatever.
Clearly. Is she nervous becuase she is in court or is she nervous becuase she knows something on consequence she doesn’t want to share? Is she in jeopardy? Is someone she cares about in jeopardy?
jayackroyd @ 71
All Judy’s forgetfulness and nervousness and the fact that she went to jail for him, makes her look like she’s trying to protect Libby again here on the stand today.
“Somebody bring me something deep fried and smothered in chocolate!”
pseudonymous in nc @ 70
Ah. Proust. Brilliant. See me @ # 77
pseudonymous in nc @ 70
LOL!
Woodhall Hollow @ 60
The defense is making the case that no one has a perfect memory, but the defense is going to need more than that, since all the prosecution witnesses tell the same story. Thus - the conspiracy against poor Libby.
To tell you the truth, I admire Fitz, but I think the defense is doing a excellent job with a poor hand. They are raising enough doubts about memory, and will hit the conspiracy stuff when they present the defense. The most interesting part of the case to me is not the prosecution’s arguments which are fairly straightforward (did he lie or not). What is exciting for me is that the defense has promised the jury to expose the Bush administration infighting in all it’s backstabbing, nefarious glory. I didn’t think that would happen in this trail. I thought Libby would present a straightforward ‘I forgot’ defense and hope for a pardon. But Wells went with the big case too.
cue
“aspens turning.”
OK, I’m not hitting refresh yet, but I did just order the book. :)
Judy is even more forgetful than Ronald Reagan.
Biodun @ 77
Largely. Largely pathetic lying about being text-driven.
Darn. Judy had a chance to redeem herself by telling the truth. She blew it.
This is the best tv since…
… since tv stopped being relevent.
This deserves a pulitzer. A peabody. A Peanut butter sandwich. You rock, Marcy.
Question and Comment:
Question: Why is Judy so nervous? What does she have on the line? Prosecution?
Comment: If they all are appearing to be liars, per 60 and 63, might be able to use that to win over at least one juror. Wells closing: Scooter was directed by Cheney and Rove. He was a loyal soldier. WH men follow orders or they lose their careers. He and the rest of the WH staffers got scared when they got caught. They made scooter the sacrificial lamb, and they lied to pin the story on him. You heard the WH insiders try to send him up the river. Rove and Cheney have been let go scot free and the prosecutors have let the WH get away with its scapegoating. Convicting him wouldn’t be doing justice, it would be letting the bad guys go.
I would not be surprised if one juror was angry enough that the big wigs were let off to hold out and cause a hung jury. IIRC, that’s what happened in the first Kozlowski (Tyco) trial.
Better than an ass-driven memory, I guess. Your ass is on the line, and suddenly you remember.
I’m imagining Judy reading this thread later on tonight………..
motherlowman @ 88
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Fitz didn’t get the “sir” treatment but Wells is. Pach, what does that say about Miller’s frame of mind, now? Is it a sign of respect, signaling submissiveness, fear about what an answer she must give as a reslt of his question?
Ah yes, the old investigative reporter with the bad memory who loses her notes that she then has a tough time deciphering once she finds them again.
This lady is a scamp.
-GSD
The Aspens are Lying.
Hell, this is almost as good as “Inherit the Wind”!
watertiger @ 99
Or maybe “Judgement at Nurenberg”.
How on earth does she remember what Libby was wearing at that rodeo(?) then ? Downthread she talked of demeanour. She stressed that she’d only seen him wearing suits. Isn’t that right?
Here’s where Jeffress appears to be going, as far as I can tell:
1. Judy forgot that she talked to Scooter in June, so it’s perfectly believable that Scooter forgot that he knew about Plame a month before his non-conversation with Timmeh;
2. Judy’s memory is note-driven, so if it’s not in her notes, she’s making it up;
3. Judy’s notation of Plame’s name (as “Valerie Flame”) raises the possibility that she may have heard about Plame from someone else BEFORE she heard it from Libby. At the least, it raises the possibility that Libby didn’t mention Plame to her in June, creating reasonable doubt as to the charge of perjury as to that conversation.
That’s all I’ve got. Anyone else got some ideas about how this helps Scooter?
annx @ 86
I am in my own mind certain that there is a conspiracy afoot to use Libby as a scapegoat. But that may be the only thing Libby is being truthful about. He is on trial for perjury, so if the Defense is making the case that he should not be convicted for lying because a) they are all lying and b) he is being set up as the fall guy, then are we looking at an ‘07 version of the OJ defense. Get the jury to feel sorry for Libby and they will acquit, even if they know he is guilty????
Cheney as Mark Furman?
zeppo @ 100
Or Anatomy of a Murder. . .or Breaker Morant!
J You started reading when you came back Did you read your own newspaper?
M Not particularly. I read the competition.
Ooohhh. Someone is still pissed at the NY Times.
Bustednuckles @
52
Does anyone remember who visited her while she was in jail? Did Libby?
Judy Miller to appear on VH-1 Surreal Life w/ Matt Cooper, Helen Thomas, Ari Fleischer, Scotty McClellan, Larry Flynt and Bob Novak.
litigatormom @ 58:
Well, those are the points I thought might be relevant to the jury. Although I can understand why Fitz might not be permitted to explain the distinction between WINPAC and CPD, the testimony that Libby was identifying Valerie Wilson’s job in different ways to different people highlights a possible - and already existing - propensity to lie about the issue, even before he was subpoenaed.
Kind of undercuts the defense’s position, in opening statements, that Libby had nothing to lie about.