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		<title>By: brooklyn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-480170</link>
		<dc:creator>brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Late to the party, but I wouldn’t vote for Hillary either.  That’s what write-ins are for.  I can’t abide the thought of 4/8 more years of Clintons.  I think their advisors (McAuliffe, etc.) had the time of their professional lives during Bill’s presidency, and naturally they want to reinstitute the monarchy.  (The Clinton Group, the Carlyle Group, etc…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; The fact that HRC and Obama wouldn’t even acknowledge each other while 3 feet apart at the SOTU tells us everything.   She’s out for the kill.  The ‘conversation’ she’s starting would be riveting if she just told the truth about this, instead of giving us the Potemkin Campaign.  If Mr. Rogers were still alive, she’d invite him in for a chat…As you can tell, I’ve had it with the manipulative nonsense.  I still remember Hillary trying to wear a headband in 92′, and talking about baking cookies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the party, but I wouldn’t vote for Hillary either.  That’s what write-ins are for.  I can’t abide the thought of 4/8 more years of Clintons.  I think their advisors (McAuliffe, etc.) had the time of their professional lives during Bill’s presidency, and naturally they want to reinstitute the monarchy.  (The Clinton Group, the Carlyle Group, etc…)</p>
<p> The fact that HRC and Obama wouldn’t even acknowledge each other while 3 feet apart at the SOTU tells us everything.   She’s out for the kill.  The ‘conversation’ she’s starting would be riveting if she just told the truth about this, instead of giving us the Potemkin Campaign.  If Mr. Rogers were still alive, she’d invite him in for a chat…As you can tell, I’ve had it with the manipulative nonsense.  I still remember Hillary trying to wear a headband in 92′, and talking about baking cookies.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Deevy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-480120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Deevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Count me as someone who would never vote for Hillary. She sold out to the Neocons three years ago…who is to say she would not do so again when they demand military action against Iran. She’s owned by the campaign contributors.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me as someone who would never vote for Hillary. She sold out to the Neocons three years ago…who is to say she would not do so again when they demand military action against Iran. She’s owned by the campaign contributors.</p>
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		<title>By: bakho</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-480075</link>
		<dc:creator>bakho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I heard Richard Clark say that&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; “Bush lacks the balls to end the Iraq occupation.”  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is really good framing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Richard Clark say that</p>
<p> “Bush lacks the balls to end the Iraq occupation.”  </p>
<p>That is really good framing.</p>
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		<title>By: hendricks</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-480004</link>
		<dc:creator>hendricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;kindly refrain from sullying fdl by posting photographs the neocon thug, mrs. clinton.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kindly refrain from sullying fdl by posting photographs the neocon thug, mrs. clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: Monk</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-479975</link>
		<dc:creator>Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Clueless,&lt;br /&gt;
Rather than destroy the neocons,I think her mere presence in the White House will embolden them even more. They joined forces against Bill. He was their target and their hatred for him helped them to further mobilize. If Hillary wins, I am afraid this polarization will solidify and kill us.&lt;br /&gt;
I guess I am hoping against hope that Gore will step in. Does anyone have any thoughts on how likely that scenario might be.&lt;br /&gt;
I am having fantasies about him announcing his intention to run when he picks up his Academy Award.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clueless,<br />
Rather than destroy the neocons,I think her mere presence in the White House will embolden them even more. They joined forces against Bill. He was their target and their hatred for him helped them to further mobilize. If Hillary wins, I am afraid this polarization will solidify and kill us.<br />
I guess I am hoping against hope that Gore will step in. Does anyone have any thoughts on how likely that scenario might be.<br />
I am having fantasies about him announcing his intention to run when he picks up his Academy Award.</p>
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		<title>By: DELBERT MATHANEY</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-479971</link>
		<dc:creator>DELBERT MATHANEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;COMMENT #4 — HEY, HEADS UP, GUITAR PLAYING BASTARD.  HOW’D YOU KNOW I AM  ALL OF  WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO PUT ON YOUR BANNER?  LOL /  I BE OFF HERE IN FORT WORTHLESS TEXAS, RETIRED FROM TRUCK DRIVING ETC.  I STARTED READING POLITICAL BLOGS AND THIS ONE HAS THE PANCAKES, SOME SYRUP, AND THE COFFEE ON ALL THE TIME. THE REPUBLICANS ARE RUNNING ON RECAPPED TIRES AND  I KEEP HOPING FOR THE BLOWOUTS. FOR SURE THE  DEMS HAVE NOT CHANGED OIL LIKE I THOUGHT ID SEE. YET. MAYBE THEY CAN OVER INFLATE THE TIRES? YA THINK?  –&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COMMENT #4 — HEY, HEADS UP, GUITAR PLAYING BASTARD.  HOW’D YOU KNOW I AM  ALL OF  WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO PUT ON YOUR BANNER?  LOL /  I BE OFF HERE IN FORT WORTHLESS TEXAS, RETIRED FROM TRUCK DRIVING ETC.  I STARTED READING POLITICAL BLOGS AND THIS ONE HAS THE PANCAKES, SOME SYRUP, AND THE COFFEE ON ALL THE TIME. THE REPUBLICANS ARE RUNNING ON RECAPPED TIRES AND  I KEEP HOPING FOR THE BLOWOUTS. FOR SURE THE  DEMS HAVE NOT CHANGED OIL LIKE I THOUGHT ID SEE. YET. MAYBE THEY CAN OVER INFLATE THE TIRES? YA THINK?  –</p>
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		<title>By: newspaperbrat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-479940</link>
		<dc:creator>newspaperbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fini Fini #49&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for clarifying and if I had been your age at that time I too would have been outraged. As it happens I was a young mother of two girls and a little boy at that time whose daddy had mercifully survived Viet Nam. I’m just sayin’ if he could understand and forgive Jane Fonda I would hope your generation could move on and understand and forgive a young mother named Tipper. Peace &amp; Love.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fini Fini #49</p>
<p>Thank you for clarifying and if I had been your age at that time I too would have been outraged. As it happens I was a young mother of two girls and a little boy at that time whose daddy had mercifully survived Viet Nam. I’m just sayin’ if he could understand and forgive Jane Fonda I would hope your generation could move on and understand and forgive a young mother named Tipper. Peace &amp; Love.</p>
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		<title>By: snuffy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-479931</link>
		<dc:creator>snuffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-479913&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;clueless @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know there is a lot of sentiment around here against hillary. But I would like to speak up for her.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other day in Iowa, hillary said that if someone hits her…she is going to deck them. Of course the msm immediately crowned her the bitch of all times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I would like to point out that her statement is EXACTLY what we’ve all been calling for from the Dems for the last 6 years. “Hit ‘em back hard” we say. And Joe Biden or someone else introduces a resolution expressing disappointment in the repubs’ actions. And we Dems out here in the blogosphere go frickin nuts because we want someone to smack the repubs right back. But nobody does it. And we fume.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Hillary comes right out and says what we’ve all been saying for years: If they hit us, we deck them”. We should all stand up and cheer her for smacking them back in the face — just like we’ve been demanding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to top it off — I reckon we would all pretty much agree that Hillary is a fucking %$#&amp; (hereinafter referred to as a “cat”, since the other word is so highly offensive). But isn’t that exactly WHAT we want to fight back the repubs starting in 2008 - a real fucking &lt;i&gt;CAT&lt;/i&gt;?????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She could have Obama as her running mate - wouldn’t that be a hell of a ticket - first woman AND first black? And Obama could get a shitload of experience as VP for 4-8 years, ensuring his Presidency at some future time. Let Obama do all the coaltion-building with moderate repubs, etc. Let Hillary destroy the neocon movement once and for all. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just because the Dems win the WH, and just because the Dems control the Congress, doesn’t mean that the neocon movement is going to just dry up and blow away. They will go underground and regroup and come back again some day. Unless they are destroyed now. For the good of the country. And I believe that Hillary is just the “CAT” to get that job done. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wes could be SecDef, Edwards anywhere he want in the Cabinet, Dodd SecState, Spitzer as Atty Genl, Fitz continues as Special Counsel for coordinating all high level political investigations - Plame, Abramhoff, Mitchell, Delay, etc. Oh, and Bill Clinton as Special At Large Envoy to the President for International Affairs. He’s the guy who cleans up the shit on the international stage. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And bring some moderate repubs into the cabinet also. Make it a real coalition government - of moderates and progressives. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hillary - kicking ass and taking names. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thoughts or reactions???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;[Mod Note; some words are better left untyped, OK?]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I dont think shecat would have the same taste in progressives as you…she helped gurnyjoe in the crunch&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-479913"><em>clueless @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I know there is a lot of sentiment around here against hillary. But I would like to speak up for her.</p>
<p>The other day in Iowa, hillary said that if someone hits her…she is going to deck them. Of course the msm immediately crowned her the bitch of all times.</p>
<p>But I would like to point out that her statement is EXACTLY what we’ve all been calling for from the Dems for the last 6 years. “Hit ‘em back hard” we say. And Joe Biden or someone else introduces a resolution expressing disappointment in the repubs’ actions. And we Dems out here in the blogosphere go frickin nuts because we want someone to smack the repubs right back. But nobody does it. And we fume.</p>
<p>But Hillary comes right out and says what we’ve all been saying for years: If they hit us, we deck them”. We should all stand up and cheer her for smacking them back in the face — just like we’ve been demanding.</p>
<p>And to top it off — I reckon we would all pretty much agree that Hillary is a fucking %$#&amp; (hereinafter referred to as a “cat”, since the other word is so highly offensive). But isn’t that exactly WHAT we want to fight back the repubs starting in 2008 &#8211; a real fucking <i>CAT</i>?????</p>
<p>She could have Obama as her running mate &#8211; wouldn’t that be a hell of a ticket &#8211; first woman AND first black? And Obama could get a shitload of experience as VP for 4-8 years, ensuring his Presidency at some future time. Let Obama do all the coaltion-building with moderate repubs, etc. Let Hillary destroy the neocon movement once and for all. </p>
<p>Just because the Dems win the WH, and just because the Dems control the Congress, doesn’t mean that the neocon movement is going to just dry up and blow away. They will go underground and regroup and come back again some day. Unless they are destroyed now. For the good of the country. And I believe that Hillary is just the “CAT” to get that job done. </p>
<p>Wes could be SecDef, Edwards anywhere he want in the Cabinet, Dodd SecState, Spitzer as Atty Genl, Fitz continues as Special Counsel for coordinating all high level political investigations &#8211; Plame, Abramhoff, Mitchell, Delay, etc. Oh, and Bill Clinton as Special At Large Envoy to the President for International Affairs. He’s the guy who cleans up the shit on the international stage. </p>
<p>And bring some moderate repubs into the cabinet also. Make it a real coalition government &#8211; of moderates and progressives. </p>
<p>Hillary &#8211; kicking ass and taking names. </p>
<p>Thoughts or reactions???</p>
<p><em>[Mod Note; some words are better left untyped, OK?]</em></p>
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<p>I dont think shecat would have the same taste in progressives as you…she helped gurnyjoe in the crunch</p>
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		<title>By: clueless</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/28/when-weather-vanes-point-the-right-way/#comment-479913</link>
		<dc:creator>clueless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know there is a lot of sentiment around here against hillary. But I would like to speak up for her.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other day in Iowa, hillary said that if someone hits her…she is going to deck them. Of course the msm immediately crowned her the bitch of all times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I would like to point out that her statement is EXACTLY what we’ve all been calling for from the Dems for the last 6 years. “Hit ‘em back hard” we say. And Joe Biden or someone else introduces a resolution expressing disappointment in the repubs’ actions. And we Dems out here in the blogosphere go frickin nuts because we want someone to smack the repubs right back. But nobody does it. And we fume.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Hillary comes right out and says what we’ve all been saying for years: If they hit us, we deck them”. We should all stand up and cheer her for smacking them back in the face — just like we’ve been demanding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to top it off — I reckon we would all pretty much agree that Hillary is a fucking %$#&amp; (hereinafter referred to as a “cat”, since the other word is so highly offensive). But isn’t that exactly WHAT we want to fight back the repubs starting in 2008 - a real fucking &lt;i&gt;CAT&lt;/i&gt;?????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She could have Obama as her running mate - wouldn’t that be a hell of a ticket - first woman AND first black? And Obama could get a shitload of experience as VP for 4-8 years, ensuring his Presidency at some future time. Let Obama do all the coaltion-building with moderate repubs, etc. Let Hillary destroy the neocon movement once and for all. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just because the Dems win the WH, and just because the Dems control the Congress, doesn’t mean that the neocon movement is going to just dry up and blow away. They will go underground and regroup and come back again some day. Unless they are destroyed now. For the good of the country. And I believe that Hillary is just the “CAT” to get that job done. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wes could be SecDef, Edwards anywhere he want in the Cabinet, Dodd SecState, Spitzer as Atty Genl, Fitz continues as Special Counsel for coordinating all high level political investigations - Plame, Abramhoff, Mitchell, Delay, etc. Oh, and Bill Clinton as Special At Large Envoy to the President for International Affairs. He’s the guy who cleans up the shit on the international stage. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And bring some moderate repubs into the cabinet also. Make it a real coalition government - of moderates and progressives. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hillary - kicking ass and taking names. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thoughts or reactions???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;[Mod Note; some words are better left untyped, OK?]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there is a lot of sentiment around here against hillary. But I would like to speak up for her.</p>
<p>The other day in Iowa, hillary said that if someone hits her…she is going to deck them. Of course the msm immediately crowned her the bitch of all times.</p>
<p>But I would like to point out that her statement is EXACTLY what we’ve all been calling for from the Dems for the last 6 years. “Hit ‘em back hard” we say. And Joe Biden or someone else introduces a resolution expressing disappointment in the repubs’ actions. And we Dems out here in the blogosphere go frickin nuts because we want someone to smack the repubs right back. But nobody does it. And we fume.</p>
<p>But Hillary comes right out and says what we’ve all been saying for years: If they hit us, we deck them”. We should all stand up and cheer her for smacking them back in the face — just like we’ve been demanding.</p>
<p>And to top it off — I reckon we would all pretty much agree that Hillary is a fucking %$#&amp; (hereinafter referred to as a “cat”, since the other word is so highly offensive). But isn’t that exactly WHAT we want to fight back the repubs starting in 2008 &#8211; a real fucking <i>CAT</i>?????</p>
<p>She could have Obama as her running mate &#8211; wouldn’t that be a hell of a ticket &#8211; first woman AND first black? And Obama could get a shitload of experience as VP for 4-8 years, ensuring his Presidency at some future time. Let Obama do all the coaltion-building with moderate repubs, etc. Let Hillary destroy the neocon movement once and for all. </p>
<p>Just because the Dems win the WH, and just because the Dems control the Congress, doesn’t mean that the neocon movement is going to just dry up and blow away. They will go underground and regroup and come back again some day. Unless they are destroyed now. For the good of the country. And I believe that Hillary is just the “CAT” to get that job done. </p>
<p>Wes could be SecDef, Edwards anywhere he want in the Cabinet, Dodd SecState, Spitzer as Atty Genl, Fitz continues as Special Counsel for coordinating all high level political investigations &#8211; Plame, Abramhoff, Mitchell, Delay, etc. Oh, and Bill Clinton as Special At Large Envoy to the President for International Affairs. He’s the guy who cleans up the shit on the international stage. </p>
<p>And bring some moderate repubs into the cabinet also. Make it a real coalition government &#8211; of moderates and progressives. </p>
<p>Hillary &#8211; kicking ass and taking names. </p>
<p>Thoughts or reactions???</p>
<p><em>[Mod Note; some words are better left untyped, OK?]</em></p>
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		<title>By: fahrender</title>
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		<dc:creator>fahrender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;off to work now. burnin’ daylight …..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>off to work now. burnin’ daylight …..</p>
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