
(Photo of soldiers on patrol in Baghdad by Erik de Castro via Reuters and Yahoo News. Note the textbook formation of the soldiers entering a hostile zone, with all four facing a different angle to cover the whole group. You tell me -- flowers and candy or hostile landscape? -- CHS)
Every Friday afternoon, commenters at Firedoglake (and likely other blogs) speculate about what embarrassing or disturbing news story will be revealed just before the weekend, when many Americans turn their attention to other concerns. It seems there's always something that fits the type, and it has happened so often that it is hard not to become cynical about the coincidences. One candidate is Friday's revised story about the deaths of five soldiers in Iraq.
Last week, following one of the worst days in Iraq for US casualties, a group of armed men dressed in US Army uniforms, some of them speaking English, drove an armed escort official-looking caravan into a compound in Karbala in which US civil affairs officials were meeting with Iraqis officals about security arrangements. As soon as they gained unimpeded entrance to the compound the men began shooting American troops and tossing grenades. At least five US troops were killed "repelling the attack," according to the first reports.
The initial reports focused not only on the tragic death of five more Americans but also on the audacity of the attack. In the past, we'd seen stories of attackers dressed in Iraqi uniforms (with the likelihood they really were members of sectarian militia within the Iraqi security forces), but I don't recall attackers using US uniforms, carrying US weapons and speaking English. Larry Johnson discusses the ominous implications of this new development in a post at TPM.
The original version of the story claimed that the US soldiers had been killed repelling the attackers, implying that their deaths had occurred at the site of the initial attack. But yesterday's revised version from AP disclosed that the orginal version was false. The US command now reveals that four of the soldiers were actually captured by attackers, who then escaped and drove some 25 miles away, where they executed the Americans with shots to the head. By the time Iraq/US troops arrived at that scene, three of the four Americans were dead and the fourth died from his wounds on the way to a hospital. He too had been shot in the head at close range.
Followup reports in the McClatchy papers and Boston Globe add further details. From the McClatchy report:
The inaccurate accounts of how the four men died recalled the controversy surrounding the death of former NFL player Pat Tillman, who was killed in Afghanistan in 2004. The Pentagon initially said Tillman had been killed by Taliban insurgents. Only later did they say that he'd been shot by fellow American soldiers.Friday's statement quoting Bleichwehl on details of the abductions and executions was released only after the Associated Press distributed a story quoting Iraqi police officials and two unnamed U.S. officials.
Iraqi police officials in recent days have portrayed the Saturday raid as a major breach of security. A police official in Hilla told McClatchy Newspapers on Monday that one of the vehicles used in the attack carried a license plate stolen from a car of Iraq's minister of trade.
And from the Boston Globe's front page story this morning:
The confirmation came after nearly a week of inquiries. The US military in Baghdad initially did not respond to repeated requests for comment on reports that began emerging from Iraqi government and military officials on the abduction and a major breakdown in security at the Karbala site.
We can only guess at why the original report was incorrect, as the US command has apparently not yet explained the changed story. All we know is that in the past, when US troops (or American contractors) have been captured, the stories of their capture and eventual fates have received considerable attention in the US media.
All last week, the White House tried to focus attention on the President's request in his State of the Union address that Congress support not only the troops in Iraq but "those on their way," a phrase that drew applause from both sides of the aisle. On Thursday we heard Vice President Cheney tell CNN's Wolf Blitzer that there has been "enormous progress" in Iraq. On Thursday, General Petraeus won unamimous Senate confirmation to take over the US command in Iraq. And all week the WH worked to dilute Congressional efforts to oppose the President's escalation plans and convince doubters that this plan could work. So this was not a week in which news about four captured and murdered US soldiers would have been helpful to the Administration's efforts.
In a time of war, it is imperative that a country be able to trust its military leaders and their Commander in Chief. We all understand that military necessity and the safety of our troops and others may often require that news of battle conditions be withheld until all are safe. But we no longer trust this Commander in Chief or any of his closet advisers to make those decisions about what we are told and why. And that is a tragedy. All we know is that all too often this crowd likes to withhold unpleasant news as long as they can and then if forced, quietly release it on Friday afternoons.
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yeah fitz!
i dont believe it! my first ever!!
When the Master governs, the people
are hardly aware that he exists.
Next best is a leader who is loved.
Next, one who is feared.
The worst is one who is despised.
If you don’t trust the people,
you make them untrustworthy.
-Lao Tzu, ‘Tao Te Ching’
(translation by Steven Mitchell, 1988)
When rich speculators prosper
While farmers lose their land;
when government officials spend money
on weapons instead of cures;
when the upper class is extravagant and irresponsible
while the poor have nowhere to turn-
all this is robbery and chaos.
It is not in keeping with the Tao.
-Lao Tzu, ‘Tao Te Ching’
(translation by Steven Mitchell, 1988)
You’d think that the Pat Tillman story would have taught someone a lesson . . . but no.
I’ve been watching for the Friday news dumps for years, and it’s amazing what gets gets tossed out with the trash. Occasionally it happens on Saturday - just ask Archibald Cox, who was put to the curb by Robert Bork in Watergate’s Saturday Night Massacre.
I blame Connecticut.
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I hope anyone who has CSPAN, go over there and watch the Peace Rally!
Peterr @ 5
Yep, I was thinking that this kind of story revision was the last thing Petraeus needed to face when he gets over there.
Good morning everyone.
Anybody know anyone who is there, in Washington?
mandrake @ 9
If I read correctly earlier, Sharkbabe is on the scene and I hope she posts something.
Thanks to whoever gave the heads-up about Kucinich being on C-SPAN. I caught the end of his remarks, and just saw someone from this group
http://www.peopleshurricane.org
mandrake at 9 — Pach and Marcy were both going, as are several readers. I’m sure we’ll get impressions and information at some point this evening or tomorrow.
Scarecrow, you mean the military has been (gasp) lying to us?!? Oh. Actually, I no longer believe anything that comes out of this admin.
I heard the smarmy Frank Luntz interviewed on the radio this week. He is tops on my most-hated Rethug list. What he boils down to is this: Lie, but do it elegantly. Ideas aren’t important, it’s the way you convey them that is. Winning is everthing and truth is a casualty of politics.
As always, loved your post. Thanks, scarecrow. You home yet?
MSNBC this morning was talking about Poppy Bush’s comments that the media is hostile to his widdle precious prezzie.
Mr. S’s take: not as hostile as Bush is to American families.
What does it say about a 60 year old man that his daddy is still running around wiping his nose and trying to make the other kids play nice with the malevolent, mendacious little monster?
Next speakers were
Eleanor Smeal Feminist Majority
Women’s Action for New Directions
Eve Ensler is up now–she’s a playwrite. Not familiar with her.
Let’s not forget Jessica Lynch.
Renee — Eve Ensler wrote “The Vagina Monologues,” among a lot of other pieces.
Renee in Ohio @ 16
But you may be familiar with her vagina. It talks ;~)
Mommybrain — still in California; return home Sunday. Hate going that direction; eats the whole day with the time changes, but it will be nice to get back.
Ah, that makes sense now. She was saying that the administration is too concerned about vaginas and not concerned enough about ending the war, etc.
scarecrow, I know what you mean about the travel. I used to take the red-eye to avoid the loss of a whole day. Where in California are you? Near me, she asked hopefully?
DC President of the AFL-CIO speaking now and mentioned John Sweeney’s leadership. They dumped their endorsement of Dean in 2004and President John Sweeney called him “nuts.” Sweeney owes Dean an apology.Renee in Ohio @ 16
Didn’t she do the Vagina Monologues?
Armed U.S. soldiers kidnapped and executed like regular Iraqi citizens should be front page news and first story news broadcasting. But we all know how it goes in the MSM.
The fact of this happening, more than the initial cover-up, is the story of how bad things are going over there. The cover-up is secondary, seen-it-before news about our bullshit, PR-driven, right-wing political machine. The cover-up is important news, but the change in insurgent tactics is ugly but important news.
Kick ass, ladies!!
Just heard from Clayola Brown.
Hope people don’t mind me just posting these links–a number of these people I hadn’t heard of before, and since I *don’t* trust the news to cover this, I figured the links might be handy to have.
Well, the military’s been spying on us, so why is it a surprise that they’ve been lying to us, too?
This sort of thing has been going on since the first days of the invasion. Lessee, how many weddings have they bombed now, with five-year-old al-Qaeda members killed?
Noble Lies
Is that Howard Stern and Yoko Ono?
QuentinCompson @ 6
That remark should have come with a warning!
Emma’s Revolution singing now. Their page has the word “shalom” in Hebrew, which reminds me that I still have a bumper sticker with that word, but I don’t have the proper “final mem”. I haven’t been able to find that in my fonts. Just mentioning, because for all I know, someone out there knows where to find one of those.
Is it safe to assume that GWB is out of town today?
jayt @ 32
Camp David is getting a lot of use in his terms….
Russ Feingold was invited, could not make it, but they are reading a letter from him.
Aren’t the plans to embed the US troops in Iraqi units going to lead to more of this?
john conyers up now on C-Span
When I read stuff like this post, and I hear how well executed the enemies actions were and how well coordinated, and I have to ask again, why is it we need to stay and train the Iraqis? It’s not as if they never had a country before, it’s not as if they don’t have knowledge of warfare. They seem to be doing quite an effective job of killing already. I hardly think we’ll improve on that. This is essentially a civil war and us being around so prominently just provides focus and targets.
Just ran for my voice recorder to capture Conyers speaking.
Ann in AZ @ 29
Typing from my creator’s home state, I of course relish the opportunity.
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OT - GrandmaJ, please see my post about sharing in room at the end of the thread “In other News”…
The other Grandma Jo.
QuentinCompson @ 39
People like Hillary are equally at fault. She has supported this war on an ongoing basis.
there it is, we need politicians to hammer this home, there is no way to trust anything the president says conerning national security
we have no idea if what the president is saying concerning Iran is true or false, nobody knows because we can’t trust the administration
Lynn Woolsey up now.
Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey up now!!! Yay!
They said she’s going to introduce on omnibus bill for–I missed it.
The news about the soldiers kidnapped and killed in Karbala is especially distressing because they appear to have been meeting to try to secure Karbala for the worshippers coming for Ashura.
Excerpted from http://gorillasguides.com/
Just imagine if 400 christians were killed at christmas on their way to hearing the pope say mass in Rome. What would the rest of the christian world say about security in Rome?
So what are the Shias going to say when the Americans can’t even protect their own soldiers in Karbala, not to mention the population?
HR 508
maxine waters up on C-Span
Here’s a PDA link to Woolsey’s H.R. 508 bill- http://www.pdamerica.org/artic.....7-news.php
maxine waters is smokin’
Maxine: “I will not vote one dime for this war.”
Maxine Waters: He is not the Decider, he is the liar!!
W00t! Rocky Anderson!
“Lying for Bush is one thing. Dying’s another. Good flacks are so hard to find.”
http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=74925
Mommybrain @ 22
Sorry, had to fix a faucet for my dad. In Sacramento
Ann in AZ @ 37
Where did they get the new-style US Army uniforms?
How good was their English? Did they pass for native speakers? At least for a few words?
Where did they get the vehicles?
Ann, one of the complaints coming out of the US military about the “they’ll stand up and we’ll stand down” plan was that the Iraqis didn’t perform up to US standards even after extensive training: they lacked fire discipline and motivation. This isn’t surprising, not because Iraqis are somehow incapable of performing at an American level, but because if the individual soldiers are not committed to the Iraqi Army and to a whole set of assumptions that drive American soldiers, they’re not going to throw themselves into the fight. So I don’t think that the Iraqi Army is ever going to reach the level of discipline, dedication and trust required for them to perform effectively.
But we don’t know which “enemies” these attacker were. Where did they get their training? This sounds like a dedicated, highly-trained set of folks … were they Iraqis? A Sunni element? All disturbing.
lot more politicians there today than was advertised…
Jesus, - Maxine Waters!!
So……. how much of this week’s noise from the administration through their various surrogates was a means to sell the escalation….and how much of it was to basically give cover and drown upcoming news of what really happened during the ambush in Karbala?
I see the VP come out of his bunker and all I can think of is what Cathy Martin testified to about getting the VP out front in the Press. MTP wouldnt have worked this week (even though it may be their best venue) because this news was going to hit before the weekend. They had to quickly get him on Wolf’s show to try to get a head of the story. His angry penguin act would get the bulk of the news hits in an attempt to distract from the LIbby case, and other damaging news that was in the pipe.
Anderson: war was sold to us …with the aid and assistance of a DISMAL mainstream media”.
It’s all very well for Ms. Dowd to criticize the current administration… but I am still very annoyed with her for her many highly-public, nasty, derogatory little digs at Al Gore during the 2000 campaign.
Maureen Dowd is one of the reasons we’re in this mess, and I hold her responsible for her share in it.
OT….Just heard Maxine Waters at the Peace March….He’s not the DECIDER, he’s the LIAR!!
Bush must have gotten wind of that slogan and had to change himself into the “decision maker”. You know how this administration governs by slogan. They sure didn’t want a good slogan catching on.
He’s not the decider…He’s the LIAR!!!!
Gotta love Maxine!
And Cheney’s obfuscation and refusal to answer the questions, notsogood either. Maybe woulda played last year, but not now.
The WH is also desperate on the war, trying to get support in Congress when most of the Repugs are also losing the “stomach” for it.
The kool-aide is getting bitter.
neil @ 53
“Ev’rybody wants t’ go the distance, when they’re travelin’ on somebody else’s dime…”
- Bill Champlin, “Bring Home the Gold,” Hip Li’l Dreams CD
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Go fuck yourself, Mr. Five-Deferments Cheney
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neil @ 53
Thanks for quoting the Dowd column. The NYT lead editorial is also excellent, today, on how we can’t trust this administration to tell us the straight story on anything, from Iraq to wiretaps, etc.
Armies of occupation never win …
ever
all the talk of “insurgents” and such covers up the reality of Iraq - we are occupying a sovereign nation and have sown chaos and destruction …
if you haven’t seen this, watch and see the roles US troops are playing as they “train” iraqi forces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nuMAooG6SM
OT In his radio address today, Bush concentrated on his healthcare and energy proposals but invoked “bipartisanship” once again on and showed how this was done by taking another swipe at Democrats:
He goes on to mention (although not by name) two Senators who are across-the-aisle-reachers with short quotes from them. This got me wondering who they were and if they were among the usual suspects, i.e. Joseph Lieberman, Ben Nelson, etc. Well, I was half right. Bush indicates one this way:
Here is what I found doing some googling:
Sen. Barack Obama (Illinois)
From RS Redstate (No, I won’t link to them.)
The second bipartisan Democrat was described this way:
Sen. Ben Nelson (Nebraska)
http://blog.thehill.com/category/healthcare
So what exactly is going on here? Obama is the one who popularized the “not red, not blue, but purple” theme but his voting record is mostly liberal. Ben Nelson on the other hand is someone who voted consistently with the Republicans on all the important issues in the last Congress. I would like to read some message into these choices and the indirect way they were alluded to but I’m not sure there is one. Rather Bush is making another vacuous appeal to a bipartisanship that equates to doing what he says. As for Obama and Nelson in their comments after the State of the Union, they too were making empty appeals to a bipartisanship that flies in the face of the last 6 years and the most polarizing President in our history. In this they were hardly alone. This also from Redstate:
Sen. Hillary Clinton:
In other words, kabuki in Washington lives on. Bipartisanship is praised, partisan politics are decried, and then it is back to business as usual.
Bush’s vapid radio address can be found here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news.....70127.html
But we don’t know which “enemies” these attacker were. Where did they get their training? This sounds like a dedicated, highly-trained set of folks … were they Iraqis? A Sunni element? All disturbing.
Ex-Republican Guard, AKA Bremer’s Folly?
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Nice work linking the quotes, Hugh.
Only mildly off-topic… the Bushies seem to be taking some extraordinary steps to hide government responses to civil lawsuits related to domestic spying.
Respectful Dissent @ 59
Yes, very disturbing? Former Republican guard? Al Queda? Shi’a? When will we figure out that we no longer know who the “enemy” is. If the army that we’re training is in it just for a paycheck due to the high unemployment rate (that we created), and this is their day job, but their night job is firing shoulder held missiles or planting IEDs, how do we determine which of them is sandbagging? This administration has put us in a no win position, but they just refuse to admit it. Meanwhile they send more and more of our sons into this quagmire, with no end in sight, and Dems keep taking tools off the table.
Watada’s father!!!
Lt. Watada’s father is speaking.
Don’t know why they bothered to cover up a well-planned, well-financed operation which obviously benefitted from fabulous intel and police complicity. Reaching right into a governor’s office like something out of James Bond is no big deal.
And happening right before the SOTU? Right before genius-general’s confirmation? No problem. The incident could’ve been spun-n-run by “Iranian secret agents.”
My name is Maxine Waters and I voted for Steny Hoyer instead of John Murtha…Why, again?
I didn’t follow the Hoyer-Murtha thing too closely, but I saw something from Murtha recently that concerned me. Need to find the link.
montag at 72 — that’s a really distrubing story, and from the same folks who are replacing US attorneys with political hacks without Senate confirmation. Once you move to lawlessness, you have to stay lawless and limit or avoid any judicial oversight. They can’t/won’t/don’t want to get out the trap they’re in. The only way to stop them is to remove them from office.
The failure in the Bush Cheney Presidency comes down to this one thing, credibility. If the American people do not trust the President, then the President cannot lead. Policy aside, lie repeatedly to citizens and they will not follow you anywhere.
On major issues and in significant ways, the American people have been played by George Bush. He says left, we find out the truth is right. He says WMD, we find out no WMD, not true. He says Heckuva job Brownie, we know better already. There were too many Americans without food or water pleading for assistance to believe that - our own lying eyes. Bush says they’ll greet us as liberators and pay for it with oil revenues. Personally, I know of $350-$500 Billion reasons that is not true. Bush says al Quada in Iraq Mohammad Atta and Saddam, mobile weapon labs, mass quantities of Uranium from Niger. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
I like Fitz’s baseball metaphor. In baseball, it’s three strikes and you’re out. Maybe that’s something W could understand.
From the Wall of Separation blog
mandrake @ 9
Yes, I know some peole I’ve blogged with over the years. How about you?
Jesse Jackson
jesse jackson up
Surprised to see the Mayor of Salt Lake City! He gave a very good speech!
The 6th grade girl was an inspiration.
Many great speakers, and great passion.
neil @ 82
Don’t know anyone. Wish I could be there, though.
OT, apologies. Albatross (at #3 and #4), Glad to see Lao Tzu appear here. Thanks. Some translations that might be preferable to Mitchell (Red Pine, Waley, Ellen Chen, D C Lau, Feng & English, Chan, Victor Mair, LaFargue).
Scarecrow @ 79
Yup… they can’t stop now, even if they wanted to, and they don’t. Does that sound a bit like the Nixon years? Does to me.
Scott Armstrong, who started the National Security Archive, said a while back that, in terms of the amount of effort expended, all administrations spend the most time and effort keeping secrets from the public, next largest effort, keeping secrets from the press, next largest, from other agencies of government, and the least amount of effort keeping secrets from foreign powers.
The whole system has been rigged for maximum power in the Executive branch, right from the advent of the 1947 National Security Act. The Bushies have just been more creative in their means than anyone else to date. We can thank Shooter and his pals (Rummy, Addington, Libby, Hannah, Cambone, et al) for that.
If I had been of age during the time the ‘foreigners’ were trying to occupy my ancestor’s land and the U.S. Cavalry were slaughtering our mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, grandparents, cousins and others, I would have fought them with every means at my disposal.
bg @ 65
The kool-aid has fermented for so long, they are no longer getting a buzz, it’s making them sick. And I hope they’re hugging the porcelain right now.
Every time he opens that dumb yap, he sinks further…
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Scarecrow, great catch on the timing of this during the Friday news dump.
I think one aspect of this that has not been emphasized is that the attackers had good intelligence on when the meeting was taking place, where it was taking place, how many targets were involved, and what the security arrangements were. Karbala is a Shia city but the attackers were Sunnis. Some of the scoping out, like checkpoint procedures, was probably done by outsiders, but the efficiency of the attack suggests that they also had someone on the inside.
Andrew Murray. Stop the War Coalition, speaking about how British people are with the American people in stopping the war.
In his 2007 State-of-the-Union address, President Bush stated that “Failure in Iraq would be a disaster for the United States.” But the U.S. didn’t fail in its original mission of forcing Iraq to give up its WMD programs. In fact, before Bush was elected, Bill Clinton had already achieved that objective with very little bloodshed and expense. So Bush embarked on a secondary mission of nation building, which he had promised the nation he’d never do. And his effort has been a failure and “a disaster for the United States.”
Now Bush should STFU and go hunting with his vice president.
Hugh @ 92
Yes. Larry Johnson also picks up on the implications for security. We don’t know who the enemy is, who are friends are, whom to trust. We can’t even assume that someone in a US uniform, with US weapons, in US vehicles speaking English is on our side. I remember Petraeus’ earlier question to a reporter: “Tell me how this ends.”
Renee in Ohio @ 81
Hmmm…I wonder if this is the same sort of thing that Hillary did with the flag burning deal that she supported. (No chance it would pass, but might buy some votes on the other side.) I don’t like it when our Congresscritters mess with the bill of rights, and I won’t be voting for Hillary because of it. But I put little past Steny Hoyer too, so, all in all, I think Murtha has shown better leadership in very important matters, although I know he’s more conservative than we would like. And actually, I’m equally concerned about relaxation of separation of church and state because I can see it infringing on parochial schools right to teach religion as a part of their curriculum. As a disclaimer, I was educated in a Catholic school. Of course, I’m way fallen away now. Still, the quality of education and the discipline is excellent, I dare say, better than in most public schools I’ve seen.
As an aside, BTW, Renee, I think I left you a note at the bottom of a post several days ago. Didn’t you say you are of Slovak descent? So am I, 100%. My parents were both first generation Slovak born in this country.
A meeting in Basrah between Sadrists and Sunni leaders concluded two days ago.
http://arablinks.blogspot.com/
Friday, January 26, 2007
Efforts are continuing to organize a joint Shia-Sunni program in Iraq
This was published by Aswat al-Iraq yesterday, and it speaks for itself.
A Sunni-Shiite fraternal council, organized by [an institution commemorating Moqtada’s father] and the Islamic Party of Iraq, wound up two days of activities in Basra today. Abdulkarim Jarrad, head of the Islamic Party in Basra, told Voices of Iraq that attendees, in addition to representatives of the two sides, included also other religious and social leaders, and he said these meetings “differ from earlier meetings we have had together with [the Sadr group] in that it included legal and political studies and [the creation of] working groups that will continue efforts to make sure the recommendations are translated into action”.
Jarrad added that the council issued a final statement that included disavowing takfiiris and Saddamists, agreeing on rejection of the occupation, and declaring that it [the occupation] is the first and the last cause of sectarian fitna.
He said the final statement also stressed the need to work to spare the blood of Muslims, Shiia and Sunni alike; to end the practice of forced migrations on both sides; and to invite the return of those who have been subjected to that; and to set up a council to implement that.
The final statement also urged the following: that other religious, tribal and political leaders organize similar fraternal meetings; that there be a timetable for the withdrawal of the occupation forces from Iraq; and that security in Basra be turned over to the Iraqi government once there has been established a sound security force based on national loyalty.
Scarecrow @ 67: This one?
Sean Penn on C SPAN
I now see Sean penn, Jane Fonda, and Susan Sarandon in the background, presumably about to speak
Sean Penn says we are dependent on our congress, but out congress is dependent on us. We’ll be behind those who represent us on this.
hoo boy - severely EPUed -
Scarecrow - save this to Favorites = http://www.erh.noaa.gov/ndfd/g.....x.php#tabs
Have a safe trip.
Excellent Post! Ultimately however, I think a key factor in this is the lack of a journalism/news professionalism association who could/would hold them responsible. Why isn’t there any questioning in MSM of the F