Closing comment. Thank you all so much for your support and interest. You have no idea how much I wish you all lived in Erie.

Thanks Dr. Porter for joining us

It was just as much fun this time as last. I need to hear from you out there to check my own thinking and to know that you want candidates like me to continue.

Just because we might loose is no reason not to Impeach Bush and Cheney. The Democrates need to make a case to the American people regarding the level of deceit and wrong doing that has been done in our name by these B***tards. Even if Impeachment fails the PROCESS is what is ultimately important. The American people need an unflinching view of this can of worms.

And though I want BUSH out of office as much as anyone, maybe the smartest course of action for the DEMs is to leave Bush alone and go after everyone else. Frankly all the investigations into oversight on the Hill right now will eventually lead to Impeachment of some of them. I think there is a strong case to go after Alberto Gonzales. The American people will see the maggots in the GOP and that will help in 2008. BUSH is a dead duck and without his followed he will be cut off at the knees.

I think if testimony taken under oath were to prove Bush and his band guilty of serious crimes, even his Republican allies in the Senate would run for cover and support a conviction.

Thanks Howie. Hey, we forgot to ask Dr. Porter about his favorie music.

I love music of all genres if it is well-crafted art. If I had to choose the music to listen to with my last breath it would probably be Brahms Symphony #2 in D.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 62

It seems that if Congress were to say that after such and such a date there will be no more funds to support the nightmare that is Iraq, then, the impression is that the president would have no choice but to ‘draw-down’ with accompanying total withdrawal. There is a precedent for this. It was called Vietnam? Perhaps I am being naive here.

I believe you are very wrong here. Bush is protecting the oil interests of the “big” four (Shell, BP, Exxon, Chevron) which have negotiated a 30-year rape of Iraqi oil fields. These deals are contained in “production-sharing agreements” which are part of the Iraqi constitution. Bush will send our kids to war in greater numbers and defy Congress if they withhold support. This is a different game than Vietnam. Please google up “Iraqi production sharing agreements”. Then sit down, take a deep breath, and read what you get. Then ask yourself why the media hasn’t reported this.

I cannot incline to, or necessarily agree with the posit presented here on this issue. Especially the part concerning the Bush continuance of sending additional troops after the funding has been cut off. I would question the practicality and the politics of such a move.

WRT: ‘Some engineers a bit short on people skills’… FOTFLMAO ;-)

However. I actually think our sub-thread about engineering is on-topic, in the sense of ‘how can this dreadful situation be improved?’ No matter what someone’s background may be, integrity is crucial.

(If only I had 1/100th of Jane’s snark, I could say it all so much cleverly ;-))))

I, on the other hand, need to go finish a story I’m writing at DWT about the Bush Library. Hopefully the only library he ever sees is a prison library.

Howie, did you catch our discussion the other day that the Bush *cough* Library should be in a FEMA trailer? ;)