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		<title>By: Larry Jones</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477962</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know why, but NPR is having this series about how divided Americans are, and how that’s a terrible thing. as part of that series, they did  a piece today about Rush Limbaugh, or as Olberman refers to him, comedian Rush Limbaugh.&lt;br /&gt;
The piece focussed on Limpbrain’s partisanship, and questioned whether or not he is divisive. Rusty was unapologetic about&lt;br /&gt;
 it, and for once I agree with the old fart.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t mind that Limpy is opinionated and partisan. Good for him. Democracies are supposed to include strong&lt;br /&gt;
 differences.  There is a reason why the distance between the governmnet and opposition benches in the Westminster&lt;br /&gt;
 parliament is two sword lengths. We have elections because its better than shooting at each other, and vigorous debate is a welcome alternative to combat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have two grievances against Dumbo. First, he lies. You want an example, listen to his show for five minutes or consult the archives at  Media Matters. He claims in the interview that one of his goals is to inform his audience, but telling people stuff that isn’t true is not informing them. NPR made a passing reference to that issue, but all they really care about is that we all get along.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Crap to that. This country faces serious problems that aren’t going to get solved by masking the truth for the sake of comity. And if one side in a debate is wrong, the media, who are supposed to provide accurate information,  should say so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this case, reporting on Limberger should include an easily documented exposition of his, shall we say,  ambivalence about objective truth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other charge i would make aganst Rott is his nasty habit of calling people  nasty names. Specifically, he habitually uses racial slurs and ad nominem attacks. Examples ? Sure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Feminists are feminazis. Obama is a halfrican. I could go on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And then they had the bigot  Glenn Beck come on and attack Rutty for being rude!!! Glenn Beck,  slanderer and serial racial name caller himself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heckuva job, NPR. Next funding drive, I got yer donation, right here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know why, but NPR is having this series about how divided Americans are, and how that’s a terrible thing. as part of that series, they did  a piece today about Rush Limbaugh, or as Olberman refers to him, comedian Rush Limbaugh.<br />
The piece focussed on Limpbrain’s partisanship, and questioned whether or not he is divisive. Rusty was unapologetic about<br />
 it, and for once I agree with the old fart.  </p>
<p>I don’t mind that Limpy is opinionated and partisan. Good for him. Democracies are supposed to include strong<br />
 differences.  There is a reason why the distance between the governmnet and opposition benches in the Westminster<br />
 parliament is two sword lengths. We have elections because its better than shooting at each other, and vigorous debate is a welcome alternative to combat.</p>
<p>I have two grievances against Dumbo. First, he lies. You want an example, listen to his show for five minutes or consult the archives at  Media Matters. He claims in the interview that one of his goals is to inform his audience, but telling people stuff that isn’t true is not informing them. NPR made a passing reference to that issue, but all they really care about is that we all get along.</p>
<p>Crap to that. This country faces serious problems that aren’t going to get solved by masking the truth for the sake of comity. And if one side in a debate is wrong, the media, who are supposed to provide accurate information,  should say so.</p>
<p>In this case, reporting on Limberger should include an easily documented exposition of his, shall we say,  ambivalence about objective truth.</p>
<p>The other charge i would make aganst Rott is his nasty habit of calling people  nasty names. Specifically, he habitually uses racial slurs and ad nominem attacks. Examples ? Sure.</p>
<p>Feminists are feminazis. Obama is a halfrican. I could go on.</p>
<p>And then they had the bigot  Glenn Beck come on and attack Rutty for being rude!!! Glenn Beck,  slanderer and serial racial name caller himself.</p>
<p>Heckuva job, NPR. Next funding drive, I got yer donation, right here.</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477713</link>
		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-477690&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kevin Hayden @&lt;br /&gt;
                304              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477137&quot;&gt;Margot @ 193&lt;/a&gt;: Not sure why that site did that. I just clicked through w/o that problem.&lt;br /&gt;
Odd.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; My son figured it out, I had iTunes as the ‘default player’ when I downloaded something. So he changed it to RealPlayer and it works.&lt;br /&gt;
Good station, thanks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-477690"><em>Kevin Hayden @<br />
                304              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477137">Margot @ 193</a>: Not sure why that site did that. I just clicked through w/o that problem.<br />
Odd.</p>
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<p> My son figured it out, I had iTunes as the ‘default player’ when I downloaded something. So he changed it to RealPlayer and it works.<br />
Good station, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477137&quot;&gt;Margot @ 193&lt;/a&gt;: Not sure why that site did that. I just clicked through w/o that problem.&lt;br /&gt;
Odd.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477137">Margot @ 193</a>: Not sure why that site did that. I just clicked through w/o that problem.<br />
Odd.</p>
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		<title>By: DGFETZER</title>
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		<dc:creator>DGFETZER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;T-Rex:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First of all, I happen to be a proud resident of Sen. Sesssions’ home state of Dumbfuckistan and a regular Firedoglake reader, so we’re not all like that. As to the liberal media bias the wingnuts rail about, I quote from a letter to the LA Times by the late great Steve Allen: “You know who the liberal media are, don’t you? That’s the 600-odd stations that carry Rush Limbaugh.” Fight on!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-Rex:</p>
<p>First of all, I happen to be a proud resident of Sen. Sesssions’ home state of Dumbfuckistan and a regular Firedoglake reader, so we’re not all like that. As to the liberal media bias the wingnuts rail about, I quote from a letter to the LA Times by the late great Steve Allen: “You know who the liberal media are, don’t you? That’s the 600-odd stations that carry Rush Limbaugh.” Fight on!</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477354</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-476987&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TRex @ 62 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;My senators suuuuuuuuck.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love my senators. Both are progressive liberal lightening rods, Kennedy and Kerry. Few orate better on the Seante floor than Kennedy, maybe just Byrd. Kennedy is also prolific drafter of legislation.  Kerry’s heart is in the place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TREX great voice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-476987"><em>TRex @ 62 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>My senators suuuuuuuuck.</p>
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<p>I love my senators. Both are progressive liberal lightening rods, Kennedy and Kerry. Few orate better on the Seante floor than Kennedy, maybe just Byrd. Kennedy is also prolific drafter of legislation.  Kerry’s heart is in the place.</p>
<p>TREX great voice.</p>
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		<title>By: TRex</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477346</link>
		<dc:creator>TRex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-477298&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;neil @&lt;br /&gt;
                296              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-476948&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sandia Blanca @ 26 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well, let’s not overlook the Nice Polite Republican stylings of Mrs. Cokie Roberts this morning, waxing poetic about the Good Ol’ Days in Washington, when all the little Congressional children played together on the veranda.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do declare.  And lobbyists took Senators to tea at the Washington Hotel.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where’s a radioactive teapot when you need one?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-477298"><em>neil @<br />
                296              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-476948"><em>Sandia Blanca @ 26 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Well, let’s not overlook the Nice Polite Republican stylings of Mrs. Cokie Roberts this morning, waxing poetic about the Good Ol’ Days in Washington, when all the little Congressional children played together on the veranda.</p>
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<p>I do declare.  And lobbyists took Senators to tea at the Washington Hotel.</p>
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<p>Where’s a radioactive teapot when you need one?</p>
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		<title>By: ESaund</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477342</link>
		<dc:creator>ESaund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember that Pew poll showing the percentage of people who erroneously thought Saddam was connected to 911 by media source?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t have the exact numbers, but the results were along these lines: Fox 90%, the major networks 50% - 60%, etc.  The lowest was NPR at about 20%.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If news execs were actually interested in informing the public, they would say to themselves, “yikes, our viewers/listeners are terribly misinformed - we need to do a better job”.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Instead, what happened was the right wing went after NPR, and put alot of political pressure from the top down - Tomlinson was the main advocate - to weed out left-wing influence, and include more airtime for conservative issues.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The results have been extraordinary.  I remember the first time I heard a piece on NPR about the “two sides” of the “evolution debate”, and sadly shook my head.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The right wing targeted NPR and got what they wanted.  I stopped listening, but after reading the above, I think I will start listening again and dash off e-mails whenever the I see clear indications of the rightward (and counterfactual) shift.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had switched from NPR to Air America - but in the Boston area, this just went off the air in November (Clear Channels switched to a Spanish language format).  So now I listen to AA via the internet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Total information control is underway, and at this point therer is not a single “mainstream” news source.  Thank God Al Gore invented the internet!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that Pew poll showing the percentage of people who erroneously thought Saddam was connected to 911 by media source?</p>
<p>I don’t have the exact numbers, but the results were along these lines: Fox 90%, the major networks 50% &#8211; 60%, etc.  The lowest was NPR at about 20%.  </p>
<p>If news execs were actually interested in informing the public, they would say to themselves, “yikes, our viewers/listeners are terribly misinformed &#8211; we need to do a better job”.  </p>
<p>Instead, what happened was the right wing went after NPR, and put alot of political pressure from the top down &#8211; Tomlinson was the main advocate &#8211; to weed out left-wing influence, and include more airtime for conservative issues.  </p>
<p>The results have been extraordinary.  I remember the first time I heard a piece on NPR about the “two sides” of the “evolution debate”, and sadly shook my head.  </p>
<p>The right wing targeted NPR and got what they wanted.  I stopped listening, but after reading the above, I think I will start listening again and dash off e-mails whenever the I see clear indications of the rightward (and counterfactual) shift.  </p>
<p>I had switched from NPR to Air America &#8211; but in the Boston area, this just went off the air in November (Clear Channels switched to a Spanish language format).  So now I listen to AA via the internet.</p>
<p>Total information control is underway, and at this point therer is not a single “mainstream” news source.  Thank God Al Gore invented the internet!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lauren</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477323</link>
		<dc:creator>lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is why many of us find our NPR listening friends so horrifically ignorant…trashing Barbara Boxer over Condi, for example…because they are subtly programmed by what they perceive to be “fair” radio.&lt;br /&gt;
Air America (and other progressive talk) are available online or as downloads.  They are marvelous, outraged, smart and inspiring: check out Sam Seder, for example, who includes netroots people every day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why many of us find our NPR listening friends so horrifically ignorant…trashing Barbara Boxer over Condi, for example…because they are subtly programmed by what they perceive to be “fair” radio.<br />
Air America (and other progressive talk) are available online or as downloads.  They are marvelous, outraged, smart and inspiring: check out Sam Seder, for example, who includes netroots people every day.</p>
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		<title>By: mandrake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477319</link>
		<dc:creator>mandrake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, just got of the phone with my mom.  She &amp; I both agree that Bush &amp; Cheney are both dangerously delusional.  Used to think Cheney was just evil but sane.  Now, I believe the evil has begun to eat away at not only his heart, but his brain as well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, just got of the phone with my mom.  She &amp; I both agree that Bush &amp; Cheney are both dangerously delusional.  Used to think Cheney was just evil but sane.  Now, I believe the evil has begun to eat away at not only his heart, but his brain as well.</p>
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		<title>By: mandrake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/26/late-nite-fdl-belief/#comment-477304</link>
		<dc:creator>mandrake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-477222&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Blank Kludge @ 261 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loathesome BlackJack Keane on CSPAN.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ohhh…dear lord. ‘No drawdown on CIVILAIN CONTRACTORS’…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;guy is kook.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So what about those 92,000 troops?  Apparently we don’t have them.  How do we get them?  Do they believe they are going to recruit that many, really?  What am I missing here?  Somebody throw me a bone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-477222"><em>Blank Kludge @ 261 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Loathesome BlackJack Keane on CSPAN.</p>
<p>ohhh…dear lord. ‘No drawdown on CIVILAIN CONTRACTORS’…</p>
<p>guy is kook.</p>
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<p>So what about those 92,000 troops?  Apparently we don’t have them.  How do we get them?  Do they believe they are going to recruit that many, really?  What am I missing here?  Somebody throw me a bone.</p>
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