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	<title>Comments on: Libby Live: Craig Schmall, Two</title>
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		<title>By: shadrivers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-474176</link>
		<dc:creator>shadrivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473598&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @&lt;br /&gt;
                74              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473576&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Richmond @&lt;br /&gt;
                54              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A thought for the next big trial FDL covers (with the same amazing coverage of this one). Is there any way (with maybe funds for the blind -no joke) to get an FDL stream so that someone could actually read the coverage and comments over the air. This is also something that XM might be willing to support. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why? Well in the sort of multi-tasking I do, I am mostly doing writing, hunting for books, reading etc. If some of this could be spoken, I could actually have my cake and eat it too, i.e. do two things at once.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;heehee… i was just complaining to RevDeb yesteday that i should look to see if i could find some kind of program that would “read” FDL to me so i could at least be doing something (cooking, cleaning…) while following along.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Web browser Opera has a reader function on the latest release, Opera 9.0. Possibly earlier, not sure.  You highlight the text, right click and select “Voice” on the drop down.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-473598"><em>selise @<br />
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-473576"><em>Richmond @<br />
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<blockquote><p>A thought for the next big trial FDL covers (with the same amazing coverage of this one). Is there any way (with maybe funds for the blind -no joke) to get an FDL stream so that someone could actually read the coverage and comments over the air. This is also something that XM might be willing to support. </p>
<p>Why? Well in the sort of multi-tasking I do, I am mostly doing writing, hunting for books, reading etc. If some of this could be spoken, I could actually have my cake and eat it too, i.e. do two things at once.</p>
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<p>heehee… i was just complaining to RevDeb yesteday that i should look to see if i could find some kind of program that would “read” FDL to me so i could at least be doing something (cooking, cleaning…) while following along.</p>
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<p>The Web browser Opera has a reader function on the latest release, Opera 9.0. Possibly earlier, not sure.  You highlight the text, right click and select “Voice” on the drop down.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick B</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-474139</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK. Someone who knows something please explain this to me. The following statement is included in the trial notes above at 10:36 : &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“10:36&lt;br /&gt;
Walton just said that if Libby didn’t testify it’d be suicide.&lt;br /&gt;
Fitz is concerned that Libby will try to get into defense through CIPA and not testify. [Hey! That was what I thought they were doing–thanks Fitz, for the validation!! ] “&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So what is “defense through CIPA?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. Someone who knows something please explain this to me. The following statement is included in the trial notes above at 10:36 : </p>
<p>“10:36<br />
Walton just said that if Libby didn’t testify it’d be suicide.<br />
Fitz is concerned that Libby will try to get into defense through CIPA and not testify. [Hey! That was what I thought they were doing–thanks Fitz, for the validation!! ] “</p>
<p>So what is “defense through CIPA?”</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-473878</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473872&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LBrowne @ 207&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473687&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pachacutec @&lt;br /&gt;
                157              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Walton I thought we were talking about reams and reams of documents. With all the lawyer power you got over there I don’t think you’ll have a problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Uh oh:  did Walton just calls Wells on bullshit?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yup.  I expect his tolerance level for the defense dropped a bit with that little drama.  It sounds like the copies might not even be fuzzy; they just weren’t “certain” whether all of the pages should be two-sided.  I guess it takes 11 lawyers (and their attendant paralegals) longer than 12 months to skim a handful of pages and figure out whether anything is missing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are wise way beyond your years Pach.&lt;br /&gt;
I’m kinda likin’ this Walton fella.  Careful.  Fair.  No fool(!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-473872"><em>LBrowne @ 207</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-473687"><em>Pachacutec @<br />
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<blockquote><blockquote>Walton I thought we were talking about reams and reams of documents. With all the lawyer power you got over there I don’t think you’ll have a problem.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh oh:  did Walton just calls Wells on bullshit?</p>
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<p>Yup.  I expect his tolerance level for the defense dropped a bit with that little drama.  It sounds like the copies might not even be fuzzy; they just weren’t “certain” whether all of the pages should be two-sided.  I guess it takes 11 lawyers (and their attendant paralegals) longer than 12 months to skim a handful of pages and figure out whether anything is missing.</p>
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<p>You are wise way beyond your years Pach.<br />
I’m kinda likin’ this Walton fella.  Careful.  Fair.  No fool(!)</p>
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		<title>By: LBrowne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-473872</link>
		<dc:creator>LBrowne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473687&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pachacutec @&lt;br /&gt;
                157              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Walton I thought we were talking about reams and reams of documents. With all the lawyer power you got over there I don’t think you’ll have a problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Uh oh:  did Walton just calls Wells on bullshit?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yup.  I expect his tolerance level for the defense dropped a bit with that little drama.  It sounds like the copies might not even be fuzzy; they just weren’t “certain” whether all of the pages should be two-sided.  I guess it takes 11 lawyers (and their attendant paralegals) longer than 12 months to skim a handful of pages and figure out whether anything is missing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-473687"><em>Pachacutec @<br />
                157              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>Walton I thought we were talking about reams and reams of documents. With all the lawyer power you got over there I don’t think you’ll have a problem.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh oh:  did Walton just calls Wells on bullshit?</p>
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<p>Yup.  I expect his tolerance level for the defense dropped a bit with that little drama.  It sounds like the copies might not even be fuzzy; they just weren’t “certain” whether all of the pages should be two-sided.  I guess it takes 11 lawyers (and their attendant paralegals) longer than 12 months to skim a handful of pages and figure out whether anything is missing.</p>
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		<title>By: theExile</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-473864</link>
		<dc:creator>theExile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473556&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jane S. @ 37&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473554&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @ 35&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Jane S., for the link…but I’m loathe to go there, already now stuck with a cookie from the “Ask the White House” page.  Should have used an anonymizer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s face facts, the NSA is already monitoring all our phonecalls, looking at our mail; what are the chances that they haven’t taken control over our computers?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Interestingly, shortly after sending an email to the whitehouse expressing my disagreement with some policy (I think evironmental, but there is so much to choose from), my website began being visited monthly by an outfit from Virginia called “CYBERVEILLANCE.” Once a month these guys would go to every page on my site. They have their own website which says their clients come from the private sector and government, but of course who they might be is confidential. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve moved my website (for other reasons) and though I still collect the data, I haven’t been processing it to the degree I used to so don’t know whether or not they were smart enough to follow me. Once I process this data, if I find they are ignoring me now, I may just write them to complain. I think I already applied for a job with them. I don’t worry as much about surveillance as some folks, I don’t think these guys are smart enough to process all the info they collect. 9-11 proves that (unless it was an inside job) and I had enough recreation running the FBI around the country in circles in my younger days. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really appreciate your coverage of this trial and hope Jane is doing well and can be there in person soon.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-473554"><em>Rayne @ 35</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks, Jane S., for the link…but I’m loathe to go there, already now stuck with a cookie from the “Ask the White House” page.  Should have used an anonymizer.</p>
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<p>Let’s face facts, the NSA is already monitoring all our phonecalls, looking at our mail; what are the chances that they haven’t taken control over our computers?</p>
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<p>Interestingly, shortly after sending an email to the whitehouse expressing my disagreement with some policy (I think evironmental, but there is so much to choose from), my website began being visited monthly by an outfit from Virginia called “CYBERVEILLANCE.” Once a month these guys would go to every page on my site. They have their own website which says their clients come from the private sector and government, but of course who they might be is confidential. </p>
<p>I’ve moved my website (for other reasons) and though I still collect the data, I haven’t been processing it to the degree I used to so don’t know whether or not they were smart enough to follow me. Once I process this data, if I find they are ignoring me now, I may just write them to complain. I think I already applied for a job with them. I don’t worry as much about surveillance as some folks, I don’t think these guys are smart enough to process all the info they collect. 9-11 proves that (unless it was an inside job) and I had enough recreation running the FBI around the country in circles in my younger days. </p>
<p>I really appreciate your coverage of this trial and hope Jane is doing well and can be there in person soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-473860</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;afterthot:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;make sure that, when you copied&amp;pasted the link I sent you, the process didn’t add any spaces in the middle of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you find that’s happened, &amp; you’re really mad enuf to pursue,&lt;br /&gt;
Copy my link outta FDL page&lt;br /&gt;
Paste it into a “compose e-mail” page&lt;br /&gt;
Edit the dang address to remove the errant space&lt;br /&gt;
Copy your freshly edited thingie&lt;br /&gt;
Paste it into the Address Bar&lt;br /&gt;
Give “Enter” a thwack&lt;br /&gt;
Pray&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that all the bonafide techies are laughing at my homecookin’, I’m outta ideas.&lt;br /&gt;
Travel safely, Grasshopper. ;-&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p.s., still like the Reboot idea.&lt;br /&gt;
p.p.s., our TRUETECHIE son has unstuck the toobez for us on rare occasions when they really were messed up, by suggesting NOT JUST re-booting, but&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually turning the plagued machine OFF&lt;br /&gt;
Letting the little monster sit &amp; contemplate its sins for a minute or so&lt;br /&gt;
Then turning it back on &amp; seeing if it wants to behave.&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.  That actually worked a couple of times when we were about to lose our minds. ;-&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>afterthot:</p>
<p>make sure that, when you copied&amp;pasted the link I sent you, the process didn’t add any spaces in the middle of it.</p>
<p>If you find that’s happened, &amp; you’re really mad enuf to pursue,<br />
Copy my link outta FDL page<br />
Paste it into a “compose e-mail” page<br />
Edit the dang address to remove the errant space<br />
Copy your freshly edited thingie<br />
Paste it into the Address Bar<br />
Give “Enter” a thwack<br />
Pray</p>
<p>Now that all the bonafide techies are laughing at my homecookin’, I’m outta ideas.<br />
Travel safely, Grasshopper. ;-&gt;</p>
<p>p.s., still like the Reboot idea.<br />
p.p.s., our TRUETECHIE son has unstuck the toobez for us on rare occasions when they really were messed up, by suggesting NOT JUST re-booting, but</p>
<p>Actually turning the plagued machine OFF<br />
Letting the little monster sit &amp; contemplate its sins for a minute or so<br />
Then turning it back on &amp; seeing if it wants to behave.<br />
Yes.  That actually worked a couple of times when we were about to lose our minds. ;-&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-473837</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473811&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;anonyvent @&lt;br /&gt;
                200              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Adie, here’s the message I got when using your link, which I cut and pasted:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Error 404 - Not Found&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;weird!  I just tried accessing the page thru my link I pasted &amp; sent to you, &amp; it worked perfectly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;fwiw, Joy B’s idea of&lt;br /&gt;
Hold down Control &amp; Shift simultaneously&lt;br /&gt;
Mouse-click on refresh-page arrow.&lt;br /&gt;
works with my Mozilla also.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;another fwiw: right about midday the last several dayz, I found the toobez acting strangely in general anywhere around FDL.  Some wag a couple days ago suggested AKTeddySteve had parked his truck on ‘em *g*, but others pointed out [youessaytaday] &amp; probably plenty others had just put up linkie to fdl, so traffic was undoubtedly quite suddenly, absolutely &lt;em&gt;AWFUL!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The price of fame…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;another fwiw: I always retype in my name &amp; addr anew every time I return to the lake, &amp; that never causes trouble for me…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At this point, I second EPU’s idea:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reboot the cranky lil’ thing.  sigh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And remember.  We’re a fam-i-ly here.  We’d appreciate hearing when you arrive safely.&lt;br /&gt;
Safe trip… *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-473811"><em>anonyvent @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Adie, here’s the message I got when using your link, which I cut and pasted:</p>
<blockquote><p>Error 404 &#8211; Not Found</p>
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<p>weird!  I just tried accessing the page thru my link I pasted &amp; sent to you, &amp; it worked perfectly.</p>
<p>fwiw, Joy B’s idea of<br />
Hold down Control &amp; Shift simultaneously<br />
Mouse-click on refresh-page arrow.<br />
works with my Mozilla also.</p>
<p>another fwiw: right about midday the last several dayz, I found the toobez acting strangely in general anywhere around FDL.  Some wag a couple days ago suggested AKTeddySteve had parked his truck on ‘em *g*, but others pointed out [youessaytaday] &amp; probably plenty others had just put up linkie to fdl, so traffic was undoubtedly quite suddenly, absolutely <em>AWFUL!</em><br />
The price of fame…</p>
<p>another fwiw: I always retype in my name &amp; addr anew every time I return to the lake, &amp; that never causes trouble for me…</p>
<p>At this point, I second EPU’s idea:</p>
<p>Reboot the cranky lil’ thing.  sigh.</p>
<p>And remember.  We’re a fam-i-ly here.  We’d appreciate hearing when you arrive safely.<br />
Safe trip… *g*</p>
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		<title>By: JoyB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-473816</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-473772&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pax et Bonum @ 186&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I heard from one of Fitzgerald’s AUSAs that Fitz asked that the pictures be removed.  The AUSA said they were family vacation pictures (e.g. in his aunt’s home; at a local pub; by the water) that the cousin really should not have made public.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That certainly makes sense, Pax. I wish he would delete the reference to the swf, then, and just leave the published article. I just know I’ve met you on a different board. We both admire Fitz!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>
I heard from one of Fitzgerald’s AUSAs that Fitz asked that the pictures be removed.  The AUSA said they were family vacation pictures (e.g. in his aunt’s home; at a local pub; by the water) that the cousin really should not have made public.</p>
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<p>That certainly makes sense, Pax. I wish he would delete the reference to the swf, then, and just leave the published article. I just know I’ve met you on a different board. We both admire Fitz!</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Parallel Universe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-473814</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Parallel Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anonyvent - Please reboot your computer, I’m pretty sure it will cure all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonyvent &#8211; Please reboot your computer, I’m pretty sure it will cure all.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/25/libby-live-craig-schmall-two/#comment-473812</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Additional “un-sticker” I sometimes use:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Often, a brand new post will not show with a simple refresh, but I often access even the stickiest ones by&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Click on FDL Logo at upper left corner of page.&lt;br /&gt;
Then hit the F5 button.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One last thing.  One could go through, I suppose, and selectively remove any strange-looking cookies.  Frankly, we keep our cookies folder cleared out except when we really need ‘em, &amp; then open, close &amp; clear the cookiejar manually - paranoid, &amp; it still probably doesn’t help much but…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep us posted anonyvent.  That’s gotta be frustrating to the extreme(!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additional “un-sticker” I sometimes use:</p>
<p>Often, a brand new post will not show with a simple refresh, but I often access even the stickiest ones by</p>
<p>Click on FDL Logo at upper left corner of page.<br />
Then hit the F5 button.</p>
<p>One last thing.  One could go through, I suppose, and selectively remove any strange-looking cookies.  Frankly, we keep our cookies folder cleared out except when we really need ‘em, &amp; then open, close &amp; clear the cookiejar manually &#8211; paranoid, &amp; it still probably doesn’t help much but…</p>
<p>Keep us posted anonyvent.  That’s gotta be frustrating to the extreme(!)</p>
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