Not many folks pass up a chance to get their photo taken with the president. It doesn't matter what party you are, or who the president is — it's just one of those things that folks do when they get the chance.
Except Jim Webb. You see, he's not at all happy with George Bush.
"I'm not particularly interested in having a picture of me and George W. Bush on my wall," Webb said in an interview yesterday [November 27, 2006] in which he confirmed the exchange between him and Bush. "No offense to the institution of the presidency, and I'm certainly looking forward to working with him and his administration. [But] leaders do some symbolic things to try to convey who they are and what the message is."
And that exchange? The Washington Post described it like this shortly after it happened:
At a recent White House reception for freshman members of Congress, Virginia's newest senator tried to avoid President Bush. Democrat James Webb declined to stand in a presidential receiving line or to have his picture taken with the man he had often criticized on the stump this fall. But it wasn't long before Bush found him.
"How's your boy?" Bush asked, referring to Webb's son, a Marine serving in Iraq.
"I'd like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President," Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.
"That's not what I asked you," Bush said. "How's your boy?"
"That's between me and my boy, Mr. President," Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House.
Now that's a Response to the President.
The photo above is from the Webb for Senate campaign site, and the boots he's holding belong to his son, Jimmy. Jimmy is serving in Iraq, and Webb wore the boots throughout his campaign. The caption "Thank you, Virginia" is Webb's message to the voters who elected him. The rest of the Democrats in the Senate and progressives around the country want to thank you, too, Virginia, for sending Jim Webb to the Senate.
Bush may have power, but Webb has authority, and he knows how to use it.
(a drum rolls, followed by trumpet fanfare)
Ladies and gentlemen, stay tuned for a Democratic Response to the State of the Union address, delivered live, in color, and with authority, by the Honorable James Webb, the Junior Senator from the Commonwealth of Virginia.
(a drum rolls, followed by trumpet fanfare)
Webb won't be standing in the well of the House of Representatives like President Bush, and there will be no colleagues leaping to their feet to interrupt Webb's speech with applause. But don't let that stop you from doing so here in the comments.
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Webb!
I look at Webb. And then I look at Senator Clinton.
Fitz!
ROOTZ!
I’ve got the sound muted on Prez. Psycho. I’m waiting for Webb.
I’m so proud of my home state for electing him.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 2
One warms the heart. The other tightens the sphincter!
It’s all about them dang terrists.
“many understand”
and congrats to the entire FDL crew for the outstanding Libby coverage.
Think he’s about to mention oil again?
“We have carefully weighed all the options”
and the ones I have chosen are the ones where I can keep my vanity and self-image secure. Rightness and tough choices be damned. That report that my daddy’s friends helped put together, well, …..did he jus say “nightmare scenario”?
Chaos is their greatest ally in this struggle.
Thanks, George, for giving them their greatest ally.
run away run away
Cheney’s on his feet, Pelosi’s sitting.
I don’t think the audio is really all that necessary to hear our president. I get the drift.
“Nothing more important in American history than to succeed in the Middle East…”
Yet no mention of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
“Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure.”
And support the troops.
You did not vote for failure.
So I’m giving you my best C-student, not passing, not failing set of ideas.
“I respect you.” Yeah, right… If you disagree with him you’re a partner with the TERRORISTS. Swine.
Lieberman wasn’t applauding supporting the troops.
WTF?
TR @
14
got my comments
Awright, a committee!
Both parties should work together.
Members of congress, this is a first in the size years I’ve been presdent.
Did I imagine it or did Chimperor just quickly skip forward through his speech transcript?
more cannon fodder . . . applause
“Add to the military”
Not that he’s talking a draft, mind you. Just to increase the numbers.
bigger army and marine corps
betcha jimmyjeff’s got wood now
Oh, now he wants to increase the size of the military. Pray tell, are Jenna and not-Jenna going to join up?
Do you see how the camera guy immediately knew to focus on the soldier?
Volunteer civilian corps.
pssst! Haliburton!
Lovely, a volunteer civilian reserve cores.
A non-draft for poor people.
Civilian militia? WTF? Isn’t that the Reserve/Guard?
did shrub just say they are outsourcing the Marine Corps?
Bushies brightest ideas emit from a flicker bulb.
We’re Volunteers of America!
defining struggle of our time
rallying the world
[ as a hard time saying United Nations ]
Oh, Jesus… here we go… time to bomb Iran…
We are not alone??? You did your damdest to make sure that we are, fool!
TeddySanFran @ 27
707!
Now he’s playing the IRAN card.
marine, they get all testy if you call them soldiers
ccmask @ 29
peace in the Holy Land
Webb won’t be standing in the well of the House of Representatives like President Bush, and there will be no colleagues leaping to their feet to interrupt Webb’s speech with applause.
Well, not today. But, maybe someday…
Wouldn’t mind seeing him sit behind President Gore during the 2009 SOTU.
I’m playing a drinking game:
1/2 truth = sip
full out lie = Full Gulp
I’m seriously buzzing 1/2 way through.
TR @ 32
Zacklee, TR…. It’s like the special bipartisan committee to work with the bipartisan congress. To make sure that it’s truly bipartisan and does what the president wants.
Aaaand we have mention of Iran.
Oh, there’s the Israel-Palestine mention…and Afghanistan gets a nod.
Anyone know who that Marine lieutenant was?
Where are they going to find 92,000 new Soldiers & Marines?
B-L-A-C-K-W-A-T-E-R
Susan Kitchens @ 30
Exactly. Each one costs buckets more than serviceperson we can’t recruit.
mandrake @ 38
mandrake, touche [oops, tried to do fancy characters, didn’t work]
I have been too brain dead to watch SOTU. Familt time tonight, though I’ve also been catching up with the establishment media Libby coverage.
Nothing I’ve seen is bad, and I actually think Niel Lewis at the NYT does a pretty good job tonight, with maybe a slim lead ahead of a decent, good field.
TR @ 32
That’s what I thought. He’ll probably send this now corps there too.
cleter @ 43
or vice-versa
If he says NOO-CU-LER one more time…
chimpy – “Korean peninshula with nookulur weapons”
At the mall
Respectful Dissent @ 47
Chimp, on SOTU:
“Ladies and gentlemen, nothing is more important than for America to succeed in the Middle East . . .” Iraq. WOT.
Wrong. Nothing more important than preserving our Constitution; defending it from Bush, Gonzales, Deadeye, and the minions serving thereunder. Reclaiming the morality, decency and standing in the world that we had before 2001.
raven @ 35
One gulag makes us smaller…..
deep breath after “diplomacy”
“To whom much is given, much is required?”
Jenna / Not-Jenna?
sounds like the coke is kicking in… he’s more animated than ever.
ooooh AIDS HIV Africa applause
well that’s over
Oh, yeah… AIDS in Africa. No condoms, though. Abstinence, that’s the trick…
I’m sorry how was he going to solve Darfur again and why hasn’t he done it anytime the last 2-3 years now?
To whom much is given, much is required.
Since my daddy and his ancestors have made it possible for me to be presdint, it would be logical for me to say that much is required of me.
But American families, moms and dads, I ask you to continue shopping in order to sacrifice and support our efforst of fighting terra overseas.
Hugh @ 64
Obviously, Democratic obstruction.
Go Senator Webb! Gawd, I wish the pReznit would shut his gob so you can tell him off already. I can’t stand so many lies repeated in a short time. LIAR LIAR!!!
1.2 billion for malaria
[now that malaria is separate from aids….]
corruption is in retreat
notice the military guys in the front row stand and clap when he talks war but they remain silent when he talks about poverty and AIDS
Blackwater. It’s not an adventure its a job.
Hugh @ 64
Hasn’t even mentioned it, the putz.
He keeps asking for money to fund programs but also talked about balancing the budget. This guy was an MBA grad?
cleter @ 43
I’d rather see Webb as Sec. of Defense – it will take a smart fearless warrior to clean out the rat’s nest that Rumsfeld left.
Jeez, he’s spreading himself pretty thin here. What the hell? Why not? Say anything, it’ll be some other poor dick’s problem.
so, he’s ponying up all this aid AND he’s cutting taxes AND he’s escalating the war?
man, endless hot air!
gallery
twolf1 @ 69
easy
kumbaya, m’lord….
Cr@p, I turned it on and he’s still yammering…
Oh, Gawd. Here’s the glurge splurge…
[can’t pronounce the word “:scholarship:”]
Holy shit, he just tried to say an African name! Hold on, this is getting risky! Handlers, what were you thinking?!
Is Pickles too stoned to stand up???
OK, now we have the token warm fuzzy story in the balcony.
Enough already. I want Webb! NOW.
now, that’s a TALL MAN!
kembe became a citizen. But, when it comes to those Fugees who play soccer, well, we’re proud of our American communities that kick ass with patriotic fervor!
raven @ 35
Jefferson Airplane?
TeddySanFran @ 81
I’ll bet he can’t define it.
Nope, Pickles finally heaved herself up out of her seat…
Good God. I am so glad my spouse got me this groovy MP3 player for Christmas, so I don’t actually have to listen to this warmed-over 5-year-old hash of lies that you folks are so kindly-but-snarkily repackaging here.
I don’t suppose the moron-in-chief is going to announce the resignation of the vice-president, whom a special prosecutor said leaked the name of an NOC, outing not only a mother with twin infants at home, but the front company serving our nation’s security and all the associated intelligence assets with which this NOC and her employing front company came in contact?
No? Really?
Color me unsurprised.
He was a serious force under the rack!
OldCoastie @ 85
He even lied about how Dikembe Mutumbo ended up at Georgetown…jeez.
get the hook
lady child videographer soldout to Disney
I never thought I’d hear an Attorney General say we don’t have habeas corpus and I never thought Dikembe Mutombo would get a standing ovation at a SOTU.
up next: profile of a meth lab success story
Walt Disney company, owner of certain radio stations….
Respectful Dissent @ 60
Word!
LauraBot looks suitably medicated.
john walsh but no mention of mark foley
Natl. center for missing and exploited children. Wasn’t that the group Rep. Foley was aligned with?
i luv fdl **
Oklahoma kiddo @ 87
We are forces of chaos and anarchy
everything they say we are, we are
and we are very proud of ourselves
up against the wall
oooh, subway rescue guy !!
Now he’s trying to grab other people’s glory
Got the subway guy on the camera. Wesley Autry.
I’ll admit I’m glad to see him get some props.
hero! hero!
okay, wesley autrey totally deserves it.
This was supposed to be a short speech.
brave and humble man like subway rescue guy
wtf is jim hottie webb?
punaise @ 96
The President went night fishing for pearch.
Going to the gallery not such a good idea — why call attention to contrasts in character to your own?
Wesley’s great!
I hope Wesley gets rich
RevDeb — Foley was the co-chair of the NCMEC.
Really, really sad; they couldn’t even vet their own leaders at NCMEC.
Gotta love it… Wesley Autry got more applause than W… But of course, he’s a better human being.
biggest applause of the whole night for the Subway Guy.
Good for him.
oregondave @ 111
Ooooh, ouch. Good point.
Marion in Savannah @ 89
Whadda you tink? Xanax, Valium, Brownie heck of a job Brownies?
“NME fahr”
In the six years since I’ve been president, we’ve had an important word re-in– reinvig– re-itroduced re-introducted into our national vocabulary. And that word is hero.
jayt @ 116
also the only time shrub smiled.
The silver star, you know, the one you assholes said Kerry didn’t earn.
whither the vaunted immigration policy ?
goddess i hate this
pickles doesn’t clap nicely… not terribly ladylike…
Susan Kitchens (119) – LMAO!!
TeddySanFran @ 102
and FDL loves YOU too!
“Like so many other Americans who have volunteered to defend us, he has earned the gratitude and respect of our entire country.”
Would be nice if some Young Republicans learned such “courage and compassion” …
Damn, another sacrifice story? Talking about people shielding other people with their bodies to save their lives, I just don’t think you need to GO there, honey. People might be paying attention!
shooter looks like he has gas.
“This is a decent and honorable country.”
Would that it were led by a decent and honorable man…
finally it’s over…
Jarred?
Thank God it’s over.
“The state of our union is strong”. A shout out to Jon Stewart?
finally it’s over
SOTU speaches are so meaningless and boring. The clapping is expected and annoying.
But this thread is fun.
SIT DOWN, my rep.
the state of our union is strong.
The state of our constitution is, well, you know, you’ll have to ask my attorney general about that.
The dems are running for the doors. They can’t get out of there fast enough!
. . .of course, no mention of the thousands of Wesley Autreys in Iraq who put their lives on the line every gd day – to escort women to the bakery, treat the sick in hospitals, teach their neighbors children . . .
Ah – People jumping up and leaving -must be over. I had it muted – can only stomach so much.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 110
I thought it was trout or some damn thing.
Boy, Kerry was un-assin the hall most rickey tick.
did he ever actually say “the state of the union is ____”?
WHEW!
Hey newspaperbrat, I got mail today. woohoo thank you!
Hey.
what about New Orleans.
Did he mention it once? at all?
“Workmanlike and a bit of a confection.” That’s the best that Tweety can say about it! I cavort! I howl!
Susan Kitchens @ 147
eh? nope
I’m listening to NPR — when does Webb go on?
KO and Tweety, “nothing new in the speech”
Colleen military mom @ 136
We were eating dinner and I had to hustle to finish so I could log on and “watch” the speech with others. It’s the only way I can make it through a Bush glurge these days.
OldCoastie @ 129
Yeah,looks like a terminal case of FitzEyeTus.
Susan Kitchens @ 147
Nope.
Get the bleep outta the House of Reps, you faker idiot druggie lowlife!!!
Susan Kitchens @ 147
no
FSM help me, the first channel I caught it on was Fox … in the first exchange after the end, one of the disembodied voices said, “He told his advisors he was going to be sober tonight … “
BWAH HAH HAH HAH! Freudian?
Okay, visuals, people for us non Tee Vee watchers. Did Lieberman and Bush do the wild end of the war kiss thang like the sailer and nurse that Eisenstat got at WW2’s end?
Dikembe wasn’t just a student that John Thompson found he was a basketball recruit… this is the kind of shit the MSM eats up lets make a big freakin deal out of this little trivia.
TeddySanFran @ 149
He can only reference one fiasco per speech.
punaise @ 145
No but I think I can fill in the blank.
Tweety, “I had malaria”.
So? What? We aren’t going to Mars? WTF?
(oh, and if they do that kiss, who’s the Top?)
safety should not cost the consumer money
the fact that hes propagating that its OK to charge people for knowledge that protects your childrens lives is sick
Not watching TV — How much applause by Democrats throughout?
haze4horses @ 159
What’s the story. I never heard of this guy. (Sports illiterate.)
cleter @ 163
Nah, but we’re not going to rebuild NOLA either…
oregondave @ 166
too many
The boy is leaving. What do you think it’ll be tonight? A quick ‘tuck into bed’ and perhaps “Jack in the Beanstalk”?
oregondave @ 166
wish my congresswoman had not stood up or clapped so much
oregondave @ 166
Not much. No good gotcha moments either.
oregondave @ 166
Enough to be polite. Hopefully enough to spare them the “The Democrats Were Rude” headlines in the papers tomorrow morning.
i’m not worthy! Snark the shark charalatan.
You make back up batteries fun — great liveblogging. Long live bloggers!
Matthews saying shrub “came on a little strong” making hezbollah and equivalency to al aqaeda as a threat to us.
“…Making Children Movies in her basement.”
Shouldn’t we inform the authorities
Interesting.. no world economy, no China, no space missions, Europe wasn’t even mentioned…
Bush is signing autographs on his way out. Priceless.
Um, is it just because I seldom watch these things, or is it strange that the PRESIDENT is signing AUTOGRAPHS for congresspeople?
Again, the cult of celebrity over everything. Can you imagine George Washington’s reaction to this kind of behavior? Yuck.
Webb. Now. Please?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 170
Nah, Pickles is to doped up to read to him tonight.
Did I miss stem cells? Human/animal hybrids? Family values? Gay marriage?
Really good ballplayer, played at Georgetown and in the NBA. He was a fierce rebounder and defender. . .cool dude.
mrsmarks @ 167
Susan Kitchens @ 158
http://photographersdirect.com…..eid=552387
Who on EARTH is that broad in the white suit who looks a lot like Katherine Harris who keeps grabbing his shoulder? Is she trying to get some back for Angela Merkel??? WTF?
The state of our union is strong.
Under my presidency, and becasue I wanted to rub the nose of Governor Blanco (she’s a white woman and part of the Democrat party) in it. So I nationalized the place. And put on my pretty blue shirt and gave a speech.
But the state of New Orleans is strong. Our no-bid contractors doing reconstruction are getting stronger. We’ve gotten rid of those people that my Mamma thinks, well, are better off relocated elsewhere.
But hey. We lost an American City on my watch.
the state of the union is strong.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 178
someone should slip in a letter of resignation for the chimp
I’m listening to c-span.org’s stream, hoping that Senator Webb will come on soon to give the rhetorical enema that is indicated after such a bolus of impacted pReznitential crapola.
Susan Kitchens @ 165
I would have been surprised if there hadn’t been a threesome with McCain, but I guess the war’s not going well enough for that now.
twolf1 @ 187
Or an enlistment form!
twolf1 @ 187
beautiful!
brownandserve @ 182
Not a word. It was all “we must work together.” {Gag}
even better
Susan Kitchens @ 158
Ewww.
No. McCain did fall asleep, though.
twolf1 @ 187
he-he-he… good idea!
Commercial break-I have to watch it on CBS tonight-and then Webb will speak.
Lou Costello @ 184, thanks! :D
mrsmarks @ 161
You may want to check with Babs Sr. for the Bush family ‘definitive’ on N.O.
raven @ 190
HAHAHA! Wait he did enlist, he just didn’t show up.
maybe the dems ran out of the chamber to join up with Webb for the response? That would be good.
TradMed cutting to commercial before Webb
4 min from now, Sen. Webb comes on!!! :)
Blub @ 178
Monkey said China and Japan are our allies with regard to that other nation in that neck of the woods – Korea. And (big fat lie) we are working with Korea diplomatically to ensure anti proliferation of nooooooookyular blah blah blah.
RevDeb @ 200
Oh, I do hope he’ll be speaking from a place where he can have a sizeable gallery, jammed with members of Congress from his party.
cleter @ 195
No, threesome tonguing with McCain. See, you shoulda watched!
President was much more lucid this time around…not saying much but he appeared half sane this go around.
brownandserve @ 182
this may have been W’s first non-gay and non-fetii SOTU
Susan Kitchens @ 187
My co-worker in the next cubicle is a NOLA refugee – young guy, early 20’s, single but w/ a girlfriend here.
He just came back from a trip home for a family funeral. I asked how things were — he made a face, said, “not good.” Says he likes here (San Antonio) and probably won’t go back even when (such an optimist) they get it repaired and restored.
But, Georgie and Brownie did such a great job, they don’t have to talk about it any more.
he did enlist, he just didn’t show up.
As we know, you didn’t just sashay down and sign up for the Air Guard in 1968, there had to be some serious strings pulled. . .but that’s old business.
John Thompson the former coach of Georgetown “discovered” Dikembe Mutumbo in his travels to Africa. Bush made Dikembe a med student at G’Town who just happened to be noticed by Coach Thompson….BS. Dikembe is a great person and will admit it is BS.
Brokaw tells us that the Speaker is ‘in charge’. That’s right. Tom.
Here comes Webb.
What a hodge-podge! Retreads, warmed over ideas, same ole, same ole. Trots out his energy policy that sounds like his old energy policy. His healthcare initiative was not so much DOA as DBA (dead before arrive). Immigration like we haven’t heard that anytime in the last 20 years. Then the old litany of terrorists, 911, Iraq, and Iran. 6 years into his Presidency, 5 years after 911, 4 years after Iraq, where has he been? Where is his record?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 211
that was nice
twolf1 @ 188
Nice one!
Marion in Savannah @ 186
Michelle Bachman … R-MN
S.O.S. from MA @ 189
apt analogy
webb up!
webb now
ByrdCage @ 206
It would seem that they’ve finally balanced his meds properly…
CNN says Webb only gets about 8 minutes for his Democratic response…but I’m sure he’ll kick some serious a**!
WEBB UP!!!!!
WEBB!!!
Interesting that C-SPAN actually looks into the blogosphere and reads a couple…
webb – rebutting the preznits comments wouldn’t be useful
Webb: New Orleans! In first graf!!
Karl told me to say that we been workin on savin fuel and efforts to curtail global climate change ever since it started polling good.
TeddySanFran @ 150
First couple of sentences for Webb…go dems!
No jugular.
I admit it’s not a big deal but it just solidifies Bush as a Liar with the people. To lie about sports is an American mortal sin.
Aah, breath of fresh air. Words of intelligence.
Tie notes. When did dems start wearing red and reps start wearing blue?
Webb doing 2 Americas. Good.
Corporate CEO made 20x what average worker.
Now 450 times. Takes a year to make what the boss makes in a day.
Susan Kitchens @ 231
It is refreshing to hear someone who can speak clearly and coherently.
SUPERSTAR!
NOLA!
CEOs vs their employees!
Attacks on the middle class!
WEBB ROCKS!!
shorter webb – contrary to what the chimp says, unless you are a big time CEO, the economy sux
Dam*n, Webb’s good. Good speaker, good words, good issues. Clear, to the point.
twolf1 @ 237
great summation.
Webb: from Jackson: Measure the health of society at base, not apex. On main street.
“Right things done for the right people for the right reasons”
I like that.
Now, on to Iraq.
we’ve “patiently endured a mismanaged war for four years”
Gosh, he’s good. Are there any more like him we can steal?
Oh, bless him. Quoting Jackson. “Patiently endured a mis-managed war” …. Oh, wow. Just plain WOW.
Text of Sen Webb’s response:
EMBARGOED UNTIL 8:45pm
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
Democratic Response of Senator Jim Webb
To the President’s State of the Union Address
Good evening.
I’m Senator Jim Webb, from Virginia, where this year we will celebrate the 400th anniversary of the settlement of Jamestown an event that
marked the first step in the long journey that has made us the greatest and most prosperous nation on earth.
It would not be possible in this short amount of time to actually rebut the President’s message, nor would it be useful. Let me simply
say that we in the Democratic Party hope that this administration is serious about improving education and healthcare for all Americans, and addressing such domestic priorities as restoring the vitality of New Orleans.
Further, this is the seventh time the President has mentioned energy independence in his state of the union message, but for the first time
this exchange is taking place in a Congress led by the Democratic Party. We are looking for affirmative solutions that will strengthen
our nation by freeing us from our dependence on foreign oil, and spurring a wave of entrepreneurial growth in the form of alternate
energy programs. We look forward to working with the President and his party to bring about these changes.
There are two areas where our respective parties have largely stood in contradiction, and I want to take a few minutes to address them
tonight. The first relates to how we see the health of our economy how we measure it, and how we ensure that its benefits are properly
shared among all Americans. The second regards our foreign policy how we might bring the war in Iraq to a proper conclusion that will
also allow us to continue to fight the war against international terrorism, and to address other strategic concerns that our country
faces around the world.
When one looks at the health of our economy, it’s almost as if we are living in two different countries. Some say that things have never been better. The stock market is at an all-time high, and so are corporate profits. But these benefits are not being fairly shared.
When I graduated from college, the average corporate CEO made 20 times what the average worker did; today, it’s nearly 400 times. In other words, it takes the average worker more than a year to make the money that his or her boss makes in one day.
Wages and salaries for our workers are at all-time lows as a percentage of national wealth, even though the productivity of American workers is the highest in the world. Medical costs have skyrocketed. College tuition rates are off the charts. Our manufacturing base is being dismantled and sent overseas. Good
American jobs are being sent along with them.
In short, the middle class of this country, our historic backbone and our best hope for a strong society in the future, is losing its place at the table. Our workers know this, through painful experience. Our white-collar professionals are beginning to understand it, as their jobs start disappearing also. And they expect, rightly, that in this age of globalization, their government has a duty to insist that their concerns be dealt with fairly in the international marketplace.
In the early days of our republic, President Andrew Jackson established an important principle of American-style democracy that
we should measure the health of our society not at its apex, but at its base. Not with the numbers that come out of Wall Street, but with
the living conditions that exist on Main Street. We must recapture that spirit today.
And under the leadership of the new Democratic Congress, we are on our way to doing so. The House just passed a minimum wage increase, the
first in ten years, and the Senate will soon follow. We’ve introduced a broad legislative package designed to regain the trust of the
American people. We’ve established a tone of cooperation and consensus that extends beyond party lines. We’re working to get the right things done, for the right people and for the right reasons.
With respect to foreign policy, this country has patiently endured a mismanaged war for nearly four years. Many, including myself, warned even before the war began that it was unnecessary, that it would take our energy and attention away from the larger war against terrorism, and that invading and occupying Iraq would leave us strategically vulnerable in the most violent and turbulent corner of the world.
I want to share with all of you a picture that I have carried with me for more than 50 years. This is my father, when he was a young Air Force captain, flying cargo planes during the Berlin Airlift. He sent us the picture from Germany, as we waited for him, back here at home.
When I was a small boy, I used to take the picture to bed with me every night, because for more than three years my father was deployed,
unable to live with us full-time, serving overseas or in bases where there was no family housing. I still keep it, to remind me of the
sacrifices that my mother and others had to make, over and over again, as my father gladly served our country. I was proud to follow in his
footsteps, serving as a Marine in Vietnam. My brother did as well, serving as a Marine helicopter pilot. My son has joined the
tradition, now serving as an infantry Marine in Iraq.
ike so many other Americans, today and throughout our history, we serve and have served, not for political reasons, but because we love our country. On the political issues those matters of war and peace, and in some cases of life and death we trusted the judgment of our national leaders. We hoped that they would be right, that they would
measure with accuracy the value of our lives against the enormity of the national interest that might call upon us to go into harm’s way.
We owed them our loyalty, as Americans, and we gave it. But they owed
us sound judgment, clear thinking, concern for our welfare, a guarantee that the threat to our country was equal to the price we might be called upon to pay in defending it.
The President took us into this war recklessly. He disregarded warnings from the national security adviser during the first Gulf War, the chief of staff of the army, two former commanding generals of the Central Command, whose jurisdiction includes Iraq, the director of operations on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many, many others with great integrity and long experience in national security affairs. We are now, as a nation, held hostage to the predictable and predicted disarray that has followed.
The war’s costs to our nation have been staggering.
Financially.
The damage to our reputation around the world.
The lost opportunities to defeat the forces of international terrorism.
And especially the precious blood of our citizens who have stepped forward to serve.
The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is being fought; nor does the majority of our military. We need a new direction. Not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong regionally-based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq’s cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq.
On both of these vital issues, our economy and our national security, it falls upon those of us in elected office to take action.
Regarding the economic imbalance in our country, I am reminded of the situation President Theodore Roosevelt faced in the early days of the 20th century. America was then, as now, drifting apart along class lines. The so-called robber barons were unapologetically raking in a huge percentage of the national wealth. The dispossessed workers at the bottom were threatening revolt.
Roosevelt spoke strongly against these divisions. He told his fellow Republicans that they must set themselves “as resolutely against improper corporate influence on the one hand as against demagogy and mob rule on the other.” And he did something about it.
As I look at Iraq, I recall the words of former general and soon-to-be President Dwight Eisenhower during the dark days of the Korean War, which had fallen into a bloody stalemate. “When comes the end?” asked the General who had commanded our forces in Europe during World War Two. And as soon as he became President, he brought the Korean War to an end.
These Presidents took the right kind of action, for the benefit of the American people and for the health of our relations around the world.
Tonight we are calling on this President to take similar action, in both areas. If he does, we will join him. If he does not, we will be showing him the way.
Thank you for listening. And God bless America.
“this is my father, a young air force captain, flying cargo planes [cool, that’s what my bro does] in Berlin airlift”
I still keep it to remind me of the sacrifices my father made…
I followed in footsteps, my brother, my son followed in tradition…
Shopgirlove @ 243
Joe Wilson
Webb is dynamite.
Webb is capturing my attention.
Oh, God. This is devastating. What a job he’s doing, even better than I had hoped.
God DAMN, welcome to the Democratic Party, Sen Webb!
“They owed us sound judgement, clear thinking, concern for our welfare … “
(apologies for formatting issues – it came via email and I wanted to rush it along to everyone)
what, is he saying that the state of our union is not strong?
Siun @ 252
Thank you soooo much!
“We need a new direction”
Speak it, Mr. Webb.
Siun @ 253
thanks Siun! is there a bouncing ball to go with that so we can follow along? ;)
WOWIE ZOWIE! Webb ROCKS! What a fantastic speech he is giving.
He added “nor does the majority of our Congress” to who no longer supports the war. Not in released transcript.
Damn, I’m proud that Webb is my senator…
Theodore Roosevelt era
robber barons! raking in huge % of national wealth!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 247
I can’t wait!
In other words, the average CEO makes in one day what it takes the average worker one year to make.
You go, Senator Webb!
A senator without a hint of teabag on his tongue…How refreshing.
Yeah!
That speech rocked.
Webb talks about Eisenhower ending the Korean War. Brilliant.
good job, Mr. Webb!
DAYAM
That was good.
Whoa! If he does not, we wil be showing him the way. LOL That was grand.
omgWebb08
Damn. Just damn. Oh. My. God. I’m almost in tears…
Tweety seems bedazzled by Webb
YES! YES!
Even the PBS pundit is saying “a star is born!”
“showing him (Bush) the way”. Webb.
Shorter Webb…come along with us or STFU!!!
webb said way more than the chimp in a fraction of the time.
I was waiting for the the word “out” to follow “showing him the way.”
Mark Shields on Webb:
“A star is born.”
Now we have NPR voices go blah blah blah, Why Webb to do response? Ah, the 3 generations of military service.
(See.. my son serves. As opposed to Jenna and not-Jenna)
neurophius @ 273
He also pointed out that Webb’s son is serving… Rather pointed comment, n’est ce pas?
“We’ll be showing him the way!” Jim Webb
“If he does not… we will be showing him the way.
Good Night and God Bless.”
YEAHHH!!
“surprisingly intense”?
But even Brooks, while calling it “confontational,”, also calls it writerly and eloquent.
Wooooo-hooo Webb!!!!!!
Pretty impressive and finally a GOOD SIZED audience to hear someone coherently deliver the fact that Democrats don’t want to cut and run. That this doesn’t mean an end to the war on terror, that its not a ‘precipitous pullback’.
Just a change in approach.
-Monk
Jim Webb: Boo-yah.
Lindsay Graham: * CLICK *
Sorry, HRC, can’t stick around; I refuse to listen to that stupid huckleberry in front of you.
“opposition got the upper hand” tweety in luv
NPR is liking (or at least commenting on) the uniqueness and striking terms and toughness.
hope to goodness all doggies saw his face when he issued this last line -
TeddySanFran @ 171
She has elegant manners steeped in protocol training since childhood. Remember her pappy was a well liked politician including Mayor of Balitmore. My late Dad interviewed him many times in that era and thought well of him.
Webb hit that one out of the park.
Marion in Savannah @ 281
I’m sort of a newbie here – please, who is Tweety?
John D. @ 290
omg yes
Sweet Mother of Holy Cow! That was goddamned impressive! That was the best SOTU response EVER!
Fred Barnes at Faux: “Webb was contradictory, his message was unclear, blah blah blah”
Just some opposition intel for ya all.
LoudounLib @ 291
matthews
okay, I think it’s time to turn off the radio. Tho Jim Webb is getting kudos. But I gots work to do. had fun channeling Bush with you all… :) (oh and have been drinking a bit of scotch, I’ll admit)
Webb, Pelosi, Olbermann. Bottom line? I think we Democrats did the job. And quite well.
I surely hope Amato posts it at C&L. I want that one for my iPod.
Respectful Dissent @ 294
but webb’s so HOT !
tweety = Chris Matthews – MSNBC
Susan Kitchens @ 288
And it’s about G*d da#ned time somebody on our side sounded tough. (Where’s Wesley Clark lately? Anybody know?)
Loudounlib – Tweety = Chris Mathews
Home run.
It feels sooooo gooooodddd to be a Democrat tonight.
Tweety is Chris Matthews
“lefty democrats” – jeebus, someone pull his pasty ass out of the wayback machine
Tom Brokaw seems to like Webb, too.
Tweety praising Webb for not going through “the usual Democratic laundry list”
cleter @ 293
It was “not focus grouped” — NPR. Imagine that!
HuffPo has the speech text, it was up before Webb came on.
oregondave @ 304
Agreed. Awesome sign-off.
Chris Matthews finds the left, again with “Powerful stuff.” :)
TeddySanFran @ 299
Oh, I am in total political love.
Edwards on MSNBC now
LoudounLib @ 292
Beautiful response.
He’s got Tweety fooled. “He’s a centrist.” What, were you taking a pee break during the response, Tweety?
LoudounLib @ 292
Chris Matthews. I don’t know why he’s called Tweety, but he is!
So, for those of us like my notyetEx who had to work tonight — when do you s’pose the Webb speech will be up on YouTube?
Ha! in the past, responses to Presnits tend to sink like stones — methinks this one will be getting many, many views, as soon as it view-able!
Oh, doing a happy, happy dance!
Tweety mentioning that Webb did not talk about abortion, etc but talked tough … that seems to be what gets Tweety’s applause
Edwards up now on MSNBC
Gore-Webb 2008
Tweety goes the way the wind blows.
Ah ha, thanks all…Tweety = Chris Matthews – heh heh, love it ;-)
Webb in 08? Works for me. try Swiftboating him.
Bravo!
I don’t think Chris Matthews knows what liberal means.
Marion in Savannah @ 316
Tweety Bird. Tuft of blond on top. Blue eyes. Bird brain.
called Tweety coz he looks like the cartoon Tweety Bird
I gave money to Webb’s campaign and I don’t even live in Virginia but I still can’t forget his stance toward those of us vets who stood up against Vietnam. Sorry
Edwards on MSNBC hammering Shrub on no New Orleans references.
“Tweety” is MSNBC’s Chris Matthews of “Hardball” fame
Marion in Savannah @ 315
Sometimes his hair is an un-natural, Tweety Bird shade of yellow.
obama on CNN
BTW, Webb was seemingly short n sweet. 8 minutes. How long have past SOTU responses usually been?
Huckleberry on msnbc now…
I don’t like him.
Huckleberry now shilling for shrub.
He looks sick to his stomach, pale and flabby faced.
To anybody out there who has the stomach to watch Faux News, who do they have on for the post-mortem?
I hope that shoves some spine up the backs of his fellow dems – Sen Obama, HRC etc
My, my, how BIG of Lindsey Graham for taking his share of blame for Iraq. [barf]
petedownunder @ 322
I’ll bet that would be a bitch, having been Reagan’s Sec. Navy and all….!
Fox News was “struck by the delivery and detail ” of the speech
goodness Firedogs, a year ago we were all so very disappointed about that other Virginian and his beyond bland/formulaic response to SOTU . . .tonight we’re all goo goo eyed over a man vaulted in to office by a “lefty” youtube – man oh man
Webb and Edwards both giving a populist edge to this commentary. I like it.
Ugh, Lindsay Graham on. He’s whining about the Golden Mosque now, too. Boy, that sure is the new mantra for explaining EVERYTHING about how everything went to hell. Brilliant.
Again, 30 percenters drooling and scratching their heads.
cleter @ 319
That’s a winner.
I wish the Democrats would add and honor Liberties lost, liberties restored, more liberties not less. Our precious liberties.
Democrats need to embrace
civil, reproductive, marriage, artistic etc
I liked that Webb made reference to the “two Americas,” (though in his own words). Hat tip to Edwards there. Hope the rest of the Dems running in ‘08 are paying attention.
Wonkette summed SOTU up thusly:
“Well that was awful. Webb could sing “London Bridge” for twenty minutes and it’d be an improvement.”
“one of my favorite Senators” – Tweety on Huckleberry
Graham no one could form a democracy with this level of voilence. We were unrealistic about how long this would take…
STFU…you were told how much and how long and how awful this woudld be.
You and your evil greedy Haliburton minions led us there anyway!
I don ‘t think shrub is going to get a bounce in the polls this time.
thread up
oregondave @ 343
Damn straight. If they don’t I think they’re doomed. Wouldn’t it be a bitch and a half if the Democratic party drafted Reagan’s former Sec. Navy as the 2008 candidate?
RevDeb @ 347
Nope, Shrub’s regime is beyond hopeless now…no bounce
Blub @343, had to go check Wonkette. Loved this one:
“10:02 — Ok, who the hell had “baby einstein” on their drinking game?”
cleter @ 329
His noggin is also the same shape as Tweety Bird’s
Wow…just wow. what an incredible combination of words, thoughts and emotion tied up into that response by Senator Webb. Bravo.
I think Webb made Edwards look like a bit of a lightweight…
LoudounLib @ 350
Well, other than the proverbial “dead cat bounce.”
RevDeb @ 333
You say that like it’s something new.
Brian Williams: “Remember in 2002 this president enters the chamber at 84%. This time, he’s 50 points below that.”
Yes, prezidentin is “hard work.”
cbl @ 339
Lesson :
Elections matter.
One person can make a difference.
One, or a few, votes make a difference.
Geo. Allen who? Anybody know what he’s doing now?
And Jim WEbb is Senator.
BwahahahahahHA!
I am SOOOO happy!
Thank you Jane and Christy, Pach and TRex, Scarecrow, Emptywheel, Taylor Marsh, Watertiger, and all the rest, including us who merely stand and post, for making last year bearable, and THIS year – potentially – ROCKIN’!
OldCoastie @ 354
Even I, as an Edwards supporter, have to agree with you there. See my comment above… at 7:36.
Russert shilling. Don’t take away my cocktail weenies!!!!!
cbl @ 339
LOL! Yeah, ain’t life fascinating and grand?
tejanarusa @ 357
Also: passion counts. There was nothing bland or formulaic about that Webb response.
Onward.
Sigh.
Webb was wonderful.
Tweety keeps saying that Webb’s no lefty.
I say, hey Tweety, you just wait and see what a populist he is. Don’t you, Tweety, read the WSJ? Webb laid out his populism on their editorial page for all to see. He is no lover of out-of-control coporate power. He’s no fan of corporate welfare. And he hates, hates, hates economic injustice.
So Tweety, are you saying that’s a middle-of-the-road outlook? If so, well then, good for you, Tweety!
mrsmarks @ 357
Well, if you look at the latest polls (ABC, IIRC) it’s actually 56 points below that… He dove into the 20s, at 28%.
Just watched video of Webb’s response; will catch up on comments later.
Webb knows how to ‘talk softly but carry a big stick,’ a la Teddy Roosevelt.
I’m reminded of that old line in Jerry Maguire: “I just want to feel inspired.” I felt inspired tonight, in part because this is the first time that I have actually heard an American politician articulate the fact that globalization is hitting hard at white collar workers.
There are upsides to globalization, but that fundamental social, political, and economic shift requires renewed, forceful emphasis on diplomacy and international institutions (for more, see George Soros’s “The Age of Fallibility). I am almost stunned that an American politician FINALLY seems to grasp that globalization is hitting with huge force at engineers, researchers, and other white-collar workers who are greatly responsible for many American successes and much of its wealth.
Webb’s quiet, measured response provided more analysis per sentence than any speech in recent memory. He did not ‘dumb it down,’ nor did he patronize. I’m grateful.
To all of you who live and vote in Virginia, from a left coaster: THANK YOU.
Hat tip to the Democratic Senators, and Senate leadership who let a newly elected Senator take on this responsibility.
how about this as a ‘08 democratic presidential ticket:
edwards/webb
sorry, hillary doesn’t cut it, and obama hasn’t shown anything.
dachoste @ 365
Let’s assume Webb isn’t running for the Pres spot, but instead is asked by the front-runner to be the VP nominee.
I’d take Gore/Webb, Edwards/Webb, Richardson/Webb … no comment on Obama or Hillary.
Is it just my imagination, but does Tweety seem a bit pained to be sitting at KO’s elbow?
dachoste @ 366
I wonder now if I wouldn’t even put it the other way around, Webb/Edwards. Consider the vicious irony of the Dems nominating Reagan’s Sec. Navy for president… Try Swiftboating HIM, you pricks….
dachoste @ 366
You don’t have to apologize to me. Both leave me cold. Even more so after seeing Webb.
ah, if gore throws his hat in the ring, then gore/webb sounds damn good
After a brutal pre-primary season played by old rules, how long before a “Draft Webb” movement springs up?
mrsmarks @ 368
I was thinking of that the other way around…
Respectful Dissent @ 372
Works for me…
Marion in Savannah @ 355
Well, other than the proverbial “dead cat bounce.”
707.
Tweety corrects himself in introduces HRC: “She’s is THE Democratic candiate for president, A Democratic candidate for president.”
Jeebus.
Mrs. K8 @ 363
Again, I think Tweety was taking a pee break during Webb’s response.
dachoste @ 371
Unbeatable.
Albatross! @ 373
Really? Admittedly, I’ve been running in and out of the room between the teevee and the computer.
Do you mean KO is pained as in he can’t believe the vapid commentary coming out of Tweety’s mouth? Or something else?
mrsmarks @ 376
Yes, it is by official Tweety decree: She will be the nominee.
Marion in Savannah @ 374
As much as I love what Jim Webb has to say — and boy is it the message we need now! — I hate to say it, but I think he really needs to put in time in the Senate, at least one term.
No?
I want to see what kind of work he’ll put in on the Senate committees.
In any event, I’m happy he’s a Democrat. And given his unashamed populism, it’s the only party that makes sense for him.
When did Hillary mug Big Mama Barbara Bush for her lumpen pearls???
mandrake (and everyone else who might be around): Sorry about the typos in that last post!
hillary’s intelligence is so obvious, but she is such a political animal that i can’t support her. she should just stay in the senate and shoot for majority leader and play politics all day long.
I think KO has to play ball for a while longer to sit in on the honcho’s tete ete. Is this a way to marginalize Keith a little?
dachoste @ 384
I agree. I’m her constituent and think in that regard she’s doing a pretty good job. She should stay put and become our next Danny Pat.
mandrake @ 377
Then I guess they don’t keep the Wall Street Journal in the men’s room for bathroom reading. You’d think Tweety would have at least read that amazing editorial by Webb.
Liked Webb’s closer, but my favorite bit was actually this: held hostage to the predictable—and predicted—disarray that has followed.
Like to see a few more swords stuck in the heart of the “everybody thought” and “nobody thought” canards they’ve been propping up their lies with for the last 6 years. More like this, please.
Haven’t visited here for quite a while. Nice to see you’re still at it, all. Carry on….
mrsmarks @ 379
LOL…Yep. Especially when Tweety asked Russert about how chivalrous (? can’t remember exact term) Bush was in the beginning talking about Speaker Pelosi. Chivalrous, my … well you understand. Tweety and Russert were chuckling over it, KO barely cracked a smile. My hero.
cleter @ 319
Amen!
dachoste @ 384
Yes! I can see her being just as smart in that role in Congress as LBJ was.
readerOfTeaLeaves @ 365
I think it was a beautiful piece of work for all the reasons you stated. I’d be damn proud if I was from Virginia. And I believe most politicians are well aware of the globalization issue, just most don’t have the balls to address it. It takes a lotta balls because that’s very, very dangerous territory.
Mrs. K8 @ 381
That time he put in down in the trenches of the snake pit that was the Reagan regime ought to count for a BUNCH, don’t you think? He’s been around that [poisonous] town a lot, knows how it works, and is still capable of speaking clearly, strongly, and with compassion. What more do we need?
Kristine @ 389
That’s not thunder you hear. It’s my heart!
i think the difference between webb and obama is that at least webb has a history of public service- obama has yet to show that he can handle the heat- it could very well be that he would make a great prez one day, but up til now, all he’s done is delivered a great speech at a convention.
Marion –
You make a point I’ll have to chew on.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy so far. I just don’t want to see him crash and burn early.
I am indeed fantasizing about a Webb presidency down the road.
dachoste @ 384
Hear!! Hear!! I’ve been saying for quite some time that she should stick to her Senate knitting. She does have the brains, political savvy and instincts to become the MAJOR power in the Senate. We need her there more than we need her at 1600. (Unless she plans to re-run for the Senate after … nah… she really should stick to her knitting…)
Mrs. K8 @ 395
I don’t think Marines are allowed to do that, are they? {joking….}
Marion in Savannah @ 392
Oh, wow, don’t get me all excited. I never thought of it like that.
Oh, lord, first Hill, now Obama. I’m just not that interested anymore. Bring back Webb. Come on, please?
Please take new comments to the new thread.
mandrake @ 399
Well, this may tell you that his timing is good too! Don’t turn into a media whore… say your piece and go home to your family. Time to talk to them tomorrow…