
The trial proceedings opened with a bang today in the Libby criminal trial. There was some new information presented during the opening statements from both the prosecution and the defense, and the first witness had already been on the stand by the close of court today.
Jury selection was completed yesterday, and Judge Reggie Walton began this morning with the charge to the jury — which is, essentially, a primer on how to best listen to the evidence and testimony presented, how to consider it fairly and what the law is with regard to the charges under which the defendant was indicted.
Judge Walton has a very open and folksy style which allows him to communicate well with the jurors. In my years of trial experience, I've learned to pay attention to the way a jury absorbs this first step in the case — often, you'll see the jurors nod off during some of the legal descriptions (which, honestly, can get fairly tedious at times, even for the lawyers), but the Libby jury was very attentive throughout — this is a good sign for the rest of the trial in terms of their willingness to pay attention to detail.
At one point during the charge, Judge Walton characterized the jurors as "judges of the facts," which is a wonderful way of bringing them into a very solemn duty in a very empowering way — this was deftly done by the judge.
The first opening statement was given today by the prosecution, with Patrick Fitzgerald leading off for the government. His opening was concise, very tightly constructed, and left no doubt that he was very clear about the reasons for which he sought an indictment for I. Lewis Libby from the federal grand jury for the five count indictment returned last October. Fitzgerald's style presents as someone who puts together the pieces of the puzzle until they fit together as a tight whole — and he certainly tried to do that with his opening this morning.
The stage was set from the start of the opening with regard to pushback against Amb. Joseph Wilson, whose op-ed in the New York Times (and his earlier unattributed quotes to other journalists) went to the heart of the credibility of the Bush Administration's foundation — or lack thereof — for starting the war in Iraq. Fitzgerald walked the jury back to the "sixteen words" in the President's State of the Union address on January 28, 2003 — and the fact that Amb. Joseph Wilson's allegations brought the possiblity that the President lied to the American public in that speech right into the living rooms of average Americans.
Because that credibility was being challenged so close to the 2004 election cycle, because the credibility the Dick Cheney in particulr was being directly questioned, there was substantial pushback from the White House, and especially from the office of the Vice President, and Scooter Libby was tasked with getting that message out to the media.
Fitzgerald walked the jurors through the five felony charges — obstruction of justice, two counts of false statements, and two counts of perjury — and the elements of each of these charges that the government is required to prove. Fitzgerald then went through the expected evidence and testimony from various government witnesses by placing each into context on a timeline that very methodically, and effectively, laid out the government case against Libby.
There was a very interesting new tidbit about the July 12, 2003, flight on Air Force II, on which Scooter Libby and Cathie Martin (Cheney's then press secretary), seated at the back of the plane, discussed some questions that Matt Cooper of Time had for the Vice President about issues of credibility on Iraq. Libby then went to the front of the plane and discussed these issues privately with Cheney, and returned to talk with Cathie Martin with Cheney's handwritten notes on how the Vice President wanted Libby — not Martin — to respond to the press inquiries. That Cheney was directly involved in crafting specific messaging that he then directed his Chief of Staff and National Security Advisor to disseminate to the press is, to say the least, quite unusual and interesting. (And the mechanics in how the discussion occurred are very specific and new details.)
Fitzgerald also used a very effective means of replaying the defendant's grand jury testimony with regard to the perjury counts — playing the actual tape of the defendant's voice as he testifed before the grand jury under oath. The jurors in the criminal trial were riveted as they listened to the defendant's voice, while they watched his reaction live in the courtroom as he was also hearing his testimony.
Ted Wells provided the opening statement for the defense today. Wells is a very skilled trial attorney, who had an effective opening line for the jurors from the start: "I am Ted Wells. And I speak for Scooter Libby." That set the tone from the start for Wells, who proceeded through a very lengthy opening statement which took several hours today — going through a number of issues and highlighting specific weak points for witnesses that will likely be key to the prosecution's case.
Wells began with a fairly well used defense attorney strategy in cases where the primary evidence will be via witness testimony and not through a lot of physical evidence (for example, forensic evidence, contemporaneous documents, and things like that). The "he said, she said" argument gets to the question of who the jurors will find most credible — and can be very convincing in terms of argument when you have few witnesses, most of whom are far from credible.
I saw this a lot, for example, in a petty criminal case wherein both the accused(s) and the victims all had long prior criminal histories — in those cases, it can be very easy to impeach the credibility of the people who testify. After sitting through the lengthy opening that Wells gave, I can say that there are clearly some witnesses the defense team is hoping to target for credibility concerns.
And at the top of the list today is Karl Rove — who is being set up in this case, at least from the opening, as the Great Hope of the GOP, and a man who had to be protected at all costs, including making Scooter Libby the fall guy. Frankly, that's going to be a tough defense argument to make considering the number of people with whom Libby directly had conversations about Amb. Joseph Wilson, Valerie Plame Wilson and pushing back on the allegations that Wilson made about the lack of foundation on WMD claims. But it will certainly be interesting to see them try to repeatedly throw Karl Rove under a bus in open court, nonetheless.
Additional witnesses who share in this blame are, in no particular order: the CIA, which Wells characterized as "incompetent;" Ari Fleischer, who apparently pleaded the Fifth and refused to testify before the Grand Jury without an immunity waiver to protect himself from incrimination with his testimony (look for this to be a big point of contention on cross examination when Fleischer testifies); every journalist with whom Libby had contact, and especially the entire reporting staff at NBC and MSNBC, and also Matt Cooper and Judy Miller, whose ability to recall any details was described as fuzzy and muddled. (So much for thanks from Team Libby for Judy, I'm afraid.)
Two amusing points today: Wells described Don Imus as "the guy with the cowboy hat." Repeatedly. (That ought to make for some amusing morning radio blather.) And Wells characterized Libby's call to Tim Russert to exert pressure on Chris Matthews' Hardball coverage of Dick Cheney as a simple "viewer complaint." Because, you know, every viewer gets to talk directly with Tim Russert when they call to voice a concern — it wasn't the power of the office of the Vice President which got him straight to the Washington News Bureau Chief's phone line. Nope. Not at all.
One of the issues that became very clear as Wells' opening droned on today is that Vice President Cheney's office has been operating as a second National Security apparatus — if not the pre-eminent one, over and above what Condeleeza Rice had been running at the time — because of the high level national security decisions that were being made, pushed, and countermanded through what the Vice President was ordering Libby to disseminate to the media on his behalf.
We ended the day with the testimony of Marc Grossman, former number three man at the State Department. One of the more interesting tidbits to come out about Mr. Grossman is that, the night before his statement was taken by the FBI, he had a visit from Richard Armitage. Armitage told Grossman that he had been the person who initially leaked to Robert Novak regarding Valerie Wilson. This is a very odd occurence — Grossman characterized it on the stand as Armitage giving him a professional courtesy by telling him up front, himself, and then saying he could feel free to mention it to the FBI — which Grossman did the next day. I find it very odd indeed that a witness who had already been debriefed by the FBI, at the level that Armitage was, would feel as though it was acceptable to discuss his own debriefing with Federal agents with someone who was about to also be debriefed. Very odd indeed.
The outstanding issue in my mind on this still remains who was it that tipped Novak off to talk to Armitage about Valerie Wilson in the first place? Did Armitage bring up the issue of Valerie Wilson's identity on his own? Or was Novak hinting around the edges about the Wilsons during the meeting that he had with Armitage at the State Department? And if Novak was hinting, who put that thought in his head to even ask about Valerie Wilson — and why? Hopefully, we will get some answers to this during the course of this trial.
Wells concentrated on a particular meme of threes in hisopening – that I think will likely get repeated in his closing at the end of the trial: three calls, three reporters, three months later. Unfortunately for Wells, these aren't supported by the facts in the way that he wants the jury to believe them to be — and it will be very interesting to see how the jury reacts to this as the evidence is presented.
Finally, a note about evidence. Testimony is evidence, the same as some documentary or physical/forensic sample is evidence. Wells attempted to shuffle around this fact today, but expect Fitzgerald's team of attorneys to chip away at this by pointing out every inconsistency in Libby's statements to the FBI and to the Grand Jury. This is going to be a very interesting trial to watch.
Personally, I found Fitzgerald's very straightforward and methodically organized style more appealing today. I felt that Wells went on too long, in a disjointed and freewheeling style, and that he was not only losing members of the public and the press, but that he started losing members of the jury with too much repetition and attempts to muddy the evidentiary waters with some confusion and counterspin.
The cross-examination of Marc Grossman, the first witness called in this case, will continue tomorrow, along with the testimony of many more witnesses to come. All this, and we haven't even gotten to Judy Miller yet…
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Fitz!
(Get well soon Jane)
Fitz… dangit
Christy!!
Great You tube!!
emptywheel!
Wow! Christy! all day in court, followed by video star and you still manage to write a major analysis of the proceedings! you go girl!
TEAM FDL!!!
FIREDOGLAKE!!
Y’all rock!
Webb!!!!
Man, I’m posting on the last thread still. I’m too old for this multi-tasking! (And makes me respect tremendously all our posters’ ablities to keep seven balls in the air at once . . .)
oh, we’re back to the trial?
Each! and! every! one! of! empty! Wheel’s! ten! typing! fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So if all this happened today, Christy, how can it possibly take weeks and weeks to get the job done?
I’ve never been on a jury. I’ve brought a couple of lawsuits against the government, and they took some days, but not weeks or months.
But this is a swamp of detail in a single day. How can anyone survive this Niagara Falls like experience with their faculties intact?
Love those Fitzmas fireworks!
Busy, busy, busy…Great job today Christy!
Would you like me to email Scooters busy, busy, busy schedule aka Exhibit 6?
Christy, Marcy — way to go on your video! Like the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey — “I see stars”!!!
Oh, I can’t think about anything but Jim Webb right now. Dems, if you are not total idiots, please take a style lesson from this man’s play book and stop listening to those consultant fools.
Alison at 11 — I am asking myself that question this evening. Ayyieeee…my poor hand is permanently cramped from taking 18 pages of handwritten notes today.
YOU SO GO CHRISTY!!
WOOHOOO!!!
can you say whether the letter to Rove will come into play?
And do you think Dan Bartlett also got immunity?
One more:
Do you think Rove will testify?
Snippets from the speech on Iraq:
These goals have been repeated since he started feeling heat from the Iraq Study Group. It’s been note by others than me but the surge has become reinforcements.
Iraq is lost and Bush lost it. Lawmakers may not have voted for failure but that is what Bush has delivered. Note the plaintive “and I ask you to give it a chance to work” followed by the backhanded slam “And I ask you to support our troops in the field.” Who can he point to in the Congress who hasn’t been supporting the troops? If this is the game he wishes to play though, I have to ask how supportive of our troops is it on his part to send them into harm’s way for a failed policy and a President in denial who refuses to accept responsibility for his actions.
In other words, the new Bush strategy is to dump this mess on his successor. As I said above, this “generational struggle” is to be fought without a tax increase or a draft. So far the only duty that has been laid on us is to go out and shop.
Reddhedd, Emptywheel, our two gorgeous ‘roving’ bloggers. Refreshingly clear, concise, and cncerned. What a pleasure. Thankyou!
At long last, Fitzmas has arrived! Christy, Marcy, Pach, and the rest of the crew, you’ve done a bang-up job, and I’m so thrilled to be able to watch this most important trial with the benefit of your expert knowledge and sharp analysis.
And all best wishes to Jane, who must be very proud of her blog tonight!
THANK YOU ALL!
Christy, soak that poor hand in some warm water. Epsom salts help. Do gentle flexing exercises. Light but firm massaging on the fingers (from the tip to the base) will help. A heating pad (wrapped in a towel) along the entire arm will help the muscles to relax. Sleep on the other side tonight, to spare your writing arm. (These are all things I do for my arthritic writing arm.) We are going to need your hands to work again tomorrow!
All of you are so amazing to do all this. I will not be able to get any work done until this trial is over. Thank you!
Good job, Christy!
Christy, You and Marcy did a nice job on the video (located a couple of threads down). It was concise and well done. Everyone here is doing excellent work in relaying the trial information. Best Wishes to Jane for a speedy recovery!
mandrake @ 15
Absolutely! No triangulating required. (Maybe nix the red tie, but otherwise, go get em.)
Hmm, Blue Dido, I was going to suggest the opposite: Ice. Heat in the morning, ice at night. Or heat immediately followed by ice.
Ya know, there was ONE breakthrough tonight. Shrubbery differentiated between Sunnis and Shias.
Scooter’s busy schedule – Exhibit 6 here.
One question –
I know that there was some line in a Fitz filing which alluded to a possible immunity deal, but do we know that there was only one? If there is only one and it’s for Ari, then do we know for sure that Rove didn’t get one?
A question that came up a lot in the threads.
Christy and Marcy, what’s your take on Wells’ repeated use of “the wife” when referring to Valerie Wilson?
obama on KO now
Blub @ 27
I missed that. Too bad he didn’t know (or care) about them before he opened Pandora’s Box.
Christy,
we’re not worthy !, we’re not worthy !
the delightful surprises in the Opening Statements aside, was going to patiently wait for the excitement to kick in -
but you and Marcy had me totally geeked up all day long – abso-f’ing-lutely fabulous
Jane Hamsher – wherever you are and hopefully it is a warm, peaceful, healing place, look what you’ve done gal ! look what you’ve done !
Quick question: Was it alleged in court today that Scooter destroyed a note that Cheney wrote?? EW had an ambiguously worded sentence in her live-blogging today (”VP notes–Libby knew that note was in his file. But he wiped it out”), but I’m not sure if she was referring to Libby’s memory, or that he literally took out a note from an actual file. I think David Shuster may have reported that Scooter “destroyed” a note, but I don’t trust him.
Can you clarify this, Christy? Thank you.
cbl @ 33
We’re the Jane Hamshers’ of The Left, until her return.
RevDeb at 30 – It is grating on my last nerve.
Susan Kitchens @ 26
Heat or ice whichever feels better. If you twist an ankle, ice first because it reduces blood flow and therefore swelling. Heat is good to increase blood flow, warm stretched muscles, and promote healing.
Christy,
This was a great analysis of todays proceedings. I feel like I got the press pass.
Your blogs on the legal aspects of the Plame affair are what brought me to FDL. This was great.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 36
Mine too, but how is the jury reacting to it? Is it a tactic that may backfire, I hope?
Susan Kitchens @
26
Susan, that would probably work, too. I’ve just always found warmth to be more helpful than cold–maybe that’s really an arthritis thing more than anything else. But the flexing and massage are really important. Cramped fingers need to be stretched. Good luck, Christy!
Absolutely killer reporting… clear, concise, and accurately conveying the drama unfolding in that courtroom. Thanks, again
Jim E. at 34 — I think that was a rhetorical flourish, and not a reference to destruction of evidence. If Fitz had evidence that something was destroyed, he would have charged it as another count, I would bet on that. That was my read on it watching him live at the time. David Shuster and I actually had a discussion about that after proceedigs broke for the evening tonight — it was tough to tell Fitz’ expression on the monitors in the media room — but it was pretty clear watching him live that he wasn’t talking about destruction of evidence but, actually, Libby just choosing to “forget” something (indicating it was a forgetting it out of convenience).
Hugh,
You are brilliant. Thanks for all your provocative insight. All sincerity. Your comments are always top notch.
Christy – noting the Shuster conversation, how are the other media folks taking you two?
dharmarific at 38 — Awww, thanks! :)
The VP coached his CoS’s FBI testimony and then destroyed the evidence. The president’s spokesman did something incriminating. His strategist fucked up and pissed off a lot of people trying to deflect the blame.
Trent Lott is unhappy about what’s happening in his party. Reporters are asking whether Cheney will have to resign.
And we’re only 8 hours into this trial.
I want to say that even though many of us have thought for a long time that this trial could be Meltdown Central, Jane, and Christy, and Pach, and EW knew it would be, and they decided to do something about it. That takes conviction and courage and no little dose of smarts.
So I just wanted to point that out and say thank you to all of you!
REvDeb at 30 – don’t you think it’s another way to subtly (ha!) remind the jury of their point that Plame’s actual status/job/security clearance are totally irrelevant — as irrelevant as “the wife” always has been in important matters dealt with by MEN? Christy?
great job today – please thank Swopa for posting a taste on needlenose (I can get needlenose at work, but not fdl – it was the longest day EVER).
now, if Libby is so worried about being a scapegoat, isn’t that just another or different motivation to lie? how does that become a defense?
Hmm – a thought on Wells’s use of “the wife” — is Wells old enough not to realize how offensive this is to any halfway-feminist woman? And isn’t this jury heavily women?
This is one of the heaviest news days I can remember. The State of the Union swayed no one to the President’s side. Bush talks bipartisanship but continues to act in a unilateral way. The Libby Trial can only hurt as the rats go after each other and the recklessness and arrogance of this Administration continues to be exposed.
Meanwhile back in Congress, hearings and investigations will grind away at the crimes and misdeeds of Bush and his cronies ’til they howl. And as far as I am concerned, it can not happen soon or often enough.
Professor Foland @ 46
Dick looked especially grumpy and irritated behind Dumbya at tonite’s SOTU. I hope he has a valid reason.
tejanarusa @ 47
perhaps that would work with an all male jury, but this one has 9, count them, 9 women. What is he thinking? It seems stoopid to me, but INAL.
Siun at 44 — At this point, most of them consider us just another one of the media. Pach and I sat by Nina Totenberg today in the courtroom. And I sat by Carol Leonnig of the WaPo for part of the afternoon and she and I and Michael Isikoff and John Dickerson were all haggling out nitpicky factpoints at a break this afternoon. So that’s sort of fun.
Now that they’ve all realized we aren’t just in the courthouse for a lark, but that we’ve been seriously studying and analyzing this case from a lot of angles, we get into some great analytical conversations. And I found out from several reporters that they’ve been reading some of my legal analysis to understand the legalese a little better — so that’s been surprising — and a little flattering – for me.
Spectacular job by all. I am impressed with the amount of information from Day 1. Blockbuster…
Just a timid question… Is there any reason that the few of us who were still talking downstairs were tossed out of the room with the door locked behind us? Never happened to me before…
Hugh @ 37
I found two ideas here. Basically botox–I kid you not–and writing vertically on a board.
Cheney looked grumpy because Fitz spent the day painting him as a traitor.
Oh, well, so you kick me off the SOTU blog when I wasn’t done bitching about the coverage and blabbering about Webb!
Guess that’s my cue to go nite-nite. ;)
OldCoastie @ 57
F*ckin ay! If the shoe fitz.
Great PoliticsTV video, Christy!
And MyDD has Webb’s address up on YouTube, for any who missed it. :-)
tejanarusa — You know, I sat behind Mr. Wells lovely wife all day today, and his daughter, and his mother — and none of these lovely ladies seemed the sort to put up with any crap. So his “the wife” usage puzzles me. I’m going to think more about it and,hopefully, do something more in depth on it tomorrow.
my paen to Christy and Marcy -
sung to the tune of Sinatra’s version of Witchcraft
Those fingers on” refresh”
The details that emesh
Christy, Marcy, there in the flesh
It’s Fitz~craft
And Wells has no defense for it
Team Fitz is too intense for it
What good would obfuscating it do
cause it’s Fitz~craft, wicked Fitz~craft
And although, laptops are strictly tabooooo
When you live blog the trial for us
We sing just like a Greek Chorus
Proceed with what your leading us to
Babs has her tired pitch
But yours I’d never switch
‘cause there’s no sharper Fitz than you
Marion in Savannah @ 55
Yes, I just bitched about it below. I wasn’t done pontificating.
I’ve been drooling all day at work to be able to come home and read this stuff. This is my Superbowl. Thanks for doing this!
mandrake @ 58
Yeah. Me too….
Marion at 55 — Once a thread starts to get to a certain number of comments, it starts to slow down the servers. Because we’ve been so musy today and the servers are already overloaded, we’re trying to keep the threads from hitting the point where things start becoming problematic. Sorry to have to shut them down so quickly — but becaue traffic is moving so quickly on threads today, we’re trying to keep the site runing for you guys as best we can.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
Wooo-hoooo! Christy rocks! Legally!
Now they know what we’ve known for a long time.
(yes, I’m feeling a bit giddly since the Democratic response ).
And Christy, I have to add my deeply impressed thanks to you, too–You spend all day taking notes in the courtroom, trading legal and fact analyses with BigTimeMedia types, wear your poor writing hand to the bone, and still come up with the most coherent, clear explanation of the facts and theories and tactics anywhere. You Rock!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
If you get a feel for Nina please let us know. She is to me one of the last semi-principled media types.
Marion, might have something to do with the # of comments, page visits, etc.. The servers are now running on pure endorphins after today’s marathon and let’s not forget Swopa hooked up the corn popper . . .
mandrake @ 63
prolley the mods were getting over run by trolls and with the comments flying so fast and furious, it was time to shut it down – I wouldn’t take it personally…
So, mandrake, should we get a room or something??? {Snort…!}
Christy,
Re Ari Fleischer. I’m assuming he’ll be called to the stand by the prosecution. What are the chances he will again cop a fifth? If he does, is that it for Fitz and Fleischer?
Re Nina Totenberg. I’ve been a big fan of hers since the day she showed up at NPR, though there have been disappointments over the past three years on her reporting on Senate Judiciary and on Roberts and Alito. The other morning, when she was reporting after her first day of observing the jury interviews, she seemed more animated on the air than in years. Is she genuinely excited about this?
I have a question from anyone who has watched Bush & Chaney over and over again. I could of sworn that both had a facial droop on the left side, either someone has done some serious surgery to make them look even or in the past the botox injections were not administered affectively.
Any Ideas?
OldCoastie @ 70
Trolls? We have trolls? I’m shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED…
(Thanks, mods…!)
OldCoastie @ 70
Not taking it personally, I just wasn’t done pontificating! ;)
aah, I see other thread is closed. Well, it’s SOTU-related:
Sen Durbin’s response to the SOTU is at Daily Kos
And… just got a fone call from my bro, & we talked SOTU and Nancy Pelosi… I told him of how there’s this site I’ve been to that’s liveblogging the trial and — in tones of awe — Ambassador Wilson comes into the comment thread and posts stuff.
Bro: really? wow. (I tell the “the wife” story and Wilson’s comment re: “the wife and AK 47s” —
will find linkLink to comment) Then, back to the SOTU. I told him the one cool thing about the SOTU, the opening, and he quipped this.. about how Pelosi is “two heartbe– I mean, two blessings away from the Presidency.” Which cracked me up and I had to share. :)Marion in Savannah @ 71
Now guys, this not THAT kind of a blog…
Whoo whoo to CHS and the team for a great job.
…help me, I’m melting
Marion and Mandrake:
When the number of comments is really high
The time to to refresh will make you cry.
That’s why.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 61
Hmmm. interesting. I’ll be following your pieces – it was the first thing that struck me when I skimmed the live-blogging today while at work.
petedownunder @ 77
Oh, right, it’s not Late Night with TRex yet…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
Better late than never, but WTF took them so long to get it!?!
Take a major, major bow, please. You make us proud.
Ed*ard at 72 — She is, very excited about this — because it’s a factually dense, meaty legal trial with political overtones out the wazoo. Really, very interesting stuff for someone who has covered the Washington scene for a while. I think she’s enjoying digging into the coverage and being allowed to really cover it fully instead of haing to do tiny little snippets by her editors.
Marion in Savannah @ 81
Trex is THAT kind of blog!
Awesome work, Christy!
I really appreciate your lucid and factual recap of the events of the day. I don’t have time to read all the news sources about the trial, but I’m making time this week to read every word on FDL. Thanks!
Mommybrain @ 79
You mean that wasn’t my old steam-powered Dell acting up? Who knew???
Ed*ard Teller @ 72
I always defer to the real lawyers, but my extensive legal experience as a veteran “Law and Order” watcher has taught me that you can’t take the fifth if you have immunity. The 5th Amendment protects you against self-incrimination, and you can’t incriminate yourself if you have immunity.
Let’s see…over 900 comments in less than 3 hours. Y’all can do the math but imagine what that does to the servers.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 83
Maybe she can learn to be a better reporter from you.
Oh, and I crossposted your PoliticsTV video. Well done!
looks to me like Mr. Fitzgerald is going to allow them to bring down the executive branch. He only need capitalize on the mistakes that Wells is going to make. Since they have tied rover to the track, it is clear he and george were in this all the way. Ari pleads the 5th? doesn’t that the prosecutor has all the dirt and is just waiting to release the juice slowly so as to run down the throat with refreshment? The actual evidence must be staggering.
one question, don’t todays ramblings suggest that indictments in the IIPA are now imminent? The prosecution seems to, by showing up, turned the dingo’s on one another, and it will be a bloodbath. he seems to have set it up so that Wells is going to have to bring things out in the open that have been restricted from the prosecution, thus opening numerous doors. Wells is defending his client, and it is very hard to imagine how this executive is going to be able allow this trial to continue as these facts are released.
it appears there are 3 sides to this story, and four if you count the involvement of, we the people. only problem, congress clearly doesn’t give a damn about, we the people. for if they did, impeachment proceedings and subpoenas and injunctions would be flying. they are only being carried by hot air so far.
Blub @ 27
But I don’t like the fallout from it. He joined iraqi sunnis and al aqeda together as two peas in a pod. upshot: our men and women are participating in an iraqi civil war… with shiites and against sunnis. “They’re protecting our freedoms” indeed.
Mommybrain @ 79
Okay, I guess I’m supposed to go to bed now but dammit, I made myself stay awake just to sit through that damn thing (seriously would have nodded off had I not been on this blog) and now I can’t sleep! :)
Christy Hardin Smith @
61
The Husband stopped by at the end of the pre-SOTU Back of the House thread, and when asked about the use of that term for Valerie, he noted that learning about her AK-47 skills was eyeopening. “Changed the nature of our domestic spats. Gave whole new meaning to the term “Yes, dear.” Perhaps Mr. Wells might need to rethink dissing her.”
you’re Homer Hickham at the Science Fair- and the kewl kidz are quite impressed with your project, can’t wait to hear about
Von BraunFitz congratulating you and shaking your hand*G*I wasn’t really able to read enough of the posts and comments on the trial today (work, you know) but on the news this evening (KO, who else?) he was saying that Rove is being tossed under the bus. Dare we hope? That would be SO sweet…
hackworth at 89 — Actualy, Nina Totenberg’s reporting is one of the things that got me interested in the law in the first place. I love her Supreme Court wrap-ups at the end of each term when the opinions come out. She does fascinating summaries, full of witty quips. (She made legal practice sound so fun, darn it…) That I got to sit on a bench and report a trial with her today, honestly, was a hugely fun moment for me.
Christy @ 53 –
I predict that this trial is where the msm gets a clue – perhaps only reporters who are seeing it up close for the first time, and not the corporate wanks – but I think the light will finally come on for a lot of people as to what web-based media reporting can be…
All due to your et al professionalism and intelligence.
Thank you all so much, and I’ll toss a few coins in the bucket on my way out in appreciation.
P.S. – not getting a damn thing done at work this week….
Anyone catch McCain defending the “scenario we have, not the scenario we expected” or some such?
Susan Kitchens @ 92
Logic: “Sunnis and Shias hate each other and want to kill each other with death squads and violence and the killity killing. But they’re both part of a radical Islamic movement that uniformly threatens us and attacked us on 9/11!”
Um, no. You learn the difference between Shia and Sunni for this?!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 61
I understand the strategy of using the term ‘the wife’. It goes with the “we were going after Mr. Wilson” defense. By calling her that it makes it sound like a she was not a focus of attention. In reality, my guess is that just by not using her name he is also trying to distance and objectify her from the reality of the crime that was done to her. Make her more abstract. But I agree with others it may backfire BIG TIME ;)
Just a thought but maybe its possible its also his way of staying out of the minefield of Plame/Wilson. By saying “the wife” maybe he parsing language. If Scooter at times talked of “Plame”, maybe he is arguing that the wife angle never came in. Or maybe just can’t keep straight who called her what and when and doesn’t want to get caught in an error and have his credibility hit in front of the jury.
I hope it goes without saying, but I forgot to mention what a great job you’re doing!!
I would have to go back and check the transcripts (which I’m too lazy to do), but wasn’t everyone saying back in 2004 that everyone was cooperating with Fitz? Now we find out that Ari initially took the fifth. That’s not cooperation, is it?
So, does the MSM get it that this trial has the potential to take down about half the executive branch?
Oh, the servers, the servers are being overloaded! Just like the bombing of the Golden Mosque, it changed everything (that is as of a few weeks ago)!
;)
FWIW, an unsolicited answer to 72 above from a first (maybe second?) time poster. and this comes with a big caveat emptor that I don’t have anywhere near the command of the details that regulars here (much less Christy and Marcy) have….
If I remember my crim procedure, I think Ari can’t plead the 5th if he’s been immunized with respect to that testimony, but it might depend on whether (1)he’s gotten only “use” immunity, as opposed to “transactional” immunity, and (2) he’s being asked something that goes beyond the scope of the agreed use immunity. A quick and dirty distinction here:
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eous…..m00717.htm
though if it’s Fitz calling him to the stand, as a practical matter that seems unlikely. On cross, on the other hand….
Anyway, $.02 from a just-starting-out civil lawyer….
RevDeb,
About “the wife”…seems like it’s an effort to pretend it’s not a person they’re talking about (who had her career ruined, and they may have lost lives in blowing her cover). They want to fool people into thinking of her as just ‘the wife.’
Otherwise, you think about them as a couple. About them as people, parents of young children, and it’s just horrible. Her life was put in danger. Her people abroad were endangered. Her career. Our WMD human intelligence.
Frank Probst @ #87,
But Fleischer hasn’t been offered immunity since it was refused during GJ. Am I right on this?
kidding, y’all about the servers – just a bit o’ fun!
you do a great job!
“the wife” just one little word away from “the little wife.”
hmmmf.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
Rock on!!!!!! That’s so excellent. BTW, I did go back and read the post after the Webb post SOTU thread jumped into here. Am appreciating, very much, the eyes of an experienced prosecutor on this. So you go, CHS! I have a friend who’s been a DA, but she’s too busy moving a household to enter into analysis of this or that. She studied theatre in undergraduate, and said that performing before a jury is the best-paid theatre work there is.
ok, with post 107 being proof that my caveat emptor was needed….
Joe S. and KO just talking about ‘Democrat’ vs. ‘Democratic’
and go Christy, because news reporters should have attorneys to help interpret things. This just may show them how much the blogs know and enlighten them to their limitations
and about ARI PLEADS 5th, I didn’t put in doesn’t that MEAN the prosecutor…… really bad when you lose a whole word!
this really has been the best wrap of the coverage I have seen, and we have been expecting it from so many all day!
wini @ 112
And even Joe S. thinks “Democrat” is bogus unnecessary crap.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 97
“the wife” = “the dog”, “the car”, “the book”… makes Valerie a thing, not a person…
cbl @
69
Hey, I didn’t say that I did it, I said that someone did it…
Crap, I hate when people see through my plausible deniability! :)
katymine @ 73
Hi katymine -
Watching Cheney tonight his facial assymetry was quite prominent. He appears to have a loss of muscle tone on left side of his face (from upper eyelid down to upper lip, so to speak).
Our facial muscles are controlled by nerves. Because we’re really fond of our brains, we call the nerves that originate near the brain “cranial nerves”.
Some cranial nerves receive sensations (smell, vision, hearing, taste), while others run muscles. The nerves that run muscles have “motor” function.
Cheney’s appearance suggests disruption of the cranial nerve motor activity for some of his left facial muscles.
One common form of cranial nerve disruption is known as “Bell’s palsy”. That describes one specific pattern of abnormal facial muscle activity. Depending on which cranial nerves are unhappy, people can show different patterns of abnormal facial muscle movement.
Of course, I’m not suggesting the cause of the apparent motor nerve abnormality. I’m merely identifying an apparent pattern.
I have confidence that Fitz will transform “the wife” from a thing back into a person.
Sidenote — fdl’s at 115,000 hits today as of 8:30 pm PST, and still climbing. YESSSSSSSSS!!!!
wini @
112
When I hear Republicans refer to “the Democrat Party” I think it just makes them sound stupid and ignorant, like they don’t know the difference between a noun and an adjective, and like they don’t know that the party has an official name, “the Democratic Party.”
Well, my alarm clock is going to screech at me in 6 hours, so I’m checking out. God, but it’s fun to do this with y’all! It’s the only way I can tolerate looking at/listening to him. Thank you all, every blessed one of you! Sleep well.
Thank you so much all FDL. Love you, love it.
It is so great when you go to court and the bloggers you have are the bloggers you want!!
Ed*ard Teller @ 107
Based on Wells’s opening statement, I’d say Ari got a deal. That was may take on it, at least. Christy and Marcy? I could have misheard it. Maybe I just got giddy about thinking that the White House’s chief bullshitter took the fifth.
One last comment — Did God tell Pat that W did a good job? We have this from on high? Now I’m really out of here…
Christy (61) — what choochmac said, the objectification of Valerie is the aim with “the wife” label.
What Fitzgerald did not say clearly is that outing Valerie Plame, an NOC working in WINPAC on WMD proliferation, also resulted in the outing of a front company, and every single intelligence asset that came in contact with or worked for that front company.
Wells is trying to minimize the damage of these little white lies Libby told to a little object like “the wife”, when the truth is far larger than that.
And the aim behind the lies was much, much larger than saving that sluggard Rove. If the sabre rattling over Iran in the SOTU and the media today is an indication, the damage inflicted by the little white lies Wells tries to minimize continues unabated.
Just one little wife, that’s all it was, and a couple little white lies.
I’m so betting he has the wrong jury to pull that crap with; I wonder how many of the nine women jurists have kids and have had to deal with the little white lies?
I want to make a point I think everyone is missing with “throwing rove under the bus”
if libby were really throwing rove under the bus the trial would be over, libby would have a deal, rove would be on trial
this is a tactic, rove isn’t on trial here and can’t be convicted, nor will fitz get another prosecution in this matter if libby is vindicated
this is a no loose strategy for rove and libby
libby gets a scapehoat at no cost to the scapegoat, if it works, rove denies it
I am willing to bet rove came up with this strategy and there is no real “throwing of anyone under bus”
Christy @ #97 said:
She does fascinating summaries, full of witty quips. (She made legal practice sound so fun, darn it…)
My most enduring memory of Nina Totenberg at ATC was when she broke the Anita Hill story – she did, pups. Boy, Redd, did she have some “witty quips” then! She had already been at NPR for fifteen years when her first great story came. And I haven’t heard her this animated since. I do remember, though, being disappointed during the Florida recount, as she failed to point out one important item going down after another.
Did anyone notice Cheney slipped something in his mouth — during the healthcare portion of the speech?
Nitroglycerin?
Or something else? because shortly thereafter he started all that inappropriate grinning.
Still going through today’s haul, but wow, what a summary, Christy. I particularly appreciate the delicacy with which you describe Mr. Wells’s mental bludgeoning of discursively expansive presentation to the jury. Also the hints of previously undisclosed details that might tilt the perception of the cases noticeably, like this:
I’ve never been able to shake the feeling that Dick put his foot in it somewhere in this area of things.
105/107, and Christy; wonder if by mistake or design that openings come where information is used that shouldn’t be, and this brings out other testimony, and that one immunity deal may not cover what suddenly becomes common knowledge…… I hear how Walton wants to prevent this, but I get the feeling that Wells’ defense is an ongoing thing, and subject to change?
there could be several people waiting to have indictments handed to them now, sealed or otherwise? Libby could put quite a few people in a conspiracy here if he opens his mouth, and it looks like they are forcing his hand.
if the executive has thrown poor old scooter away, Wells really doesn’t have much choice does he? In fact, wouldn’t it be his duty, knowing that crimes have been committed, to reveal them in open court to protect his client?
Siun @
5
most impessive, indeed
I think Fitz should refer to “the wife” as Special Agent Valerie Plame Who May or May Not Have Been Covert.
I imagine that it’s the perfect storm for a DC legal correspondent like Nina Totenberg, because you’ve got the meaty legal issues mixed in with the personalities, both political and media. It’s a bit like having a backstage pass to a gig when your friends are playing.
Christy, Pach, Marcy: I’m more lurk than comment these days, but you’re doing a fantastic job.
uncle toby @ 129
Powdered puppies.
Hey Boyz and Girlz new thready goodness upsatirs://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/late-nite-fdl-sotu-stfu/
Very Irish expression “the wife”. Is he trying to get at Fitz?
Sublingual lorazepam?
I bet Fitz will make some use of that old banner, the one that said, “Mission Accomplished.”
50 cent prediction – Cheney resigns in the next 30 days.
how come when I click the links to sitemeter that others have put up all I get is a white screen? What is the magic that makes it work?
Wow! Great summary! It is so much better to read your synopsis Christy, than to listen to the talking heads on the alphabet soup of TV. I really look forward to the rest of the great coverage FDL is doing on the libby trial. Keep up the good work.
I keep wondering along the lines of whether “the wife” reference that Wells kept using is intended to have an effect on the predominantly female jury, as much if not more so than any intent to minimize the impact of Valerie Plame’s responsibility.
I’m wading into working subconscious process here, a kind of watered down sexist stockholm syndrome where a verbally dominant male appeals to female jury in a way that, although they may recoil to it on the surface, embrace it and feel more safe as a result.
I’m really reaching here and think it might speak more to Wells’ own difficulty resolving how to “herd” the perception of women, which stands to backfire bigtime. Ultimately, it’s a sign of not being a straight shooter.
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Iowa Democrat @ 142
Combine Team FDL with David Schuster and I’d say we have THE winning combination.
Muzzy @ 143
As a professional woman I find it abrasive, dismissive, and disrespectful. At all levels. I hope at least some of the women on the jury feel the same way.
Muzzy, I think Wells really screwed up.
Unless they are a bunch of battered wives suffering from massive self-esteem problems, there’s no way this ploy is going to work.
Fitz would only have to point out that these heartless, hypocritical bastards now in a circular firing squad outed a woman who sacrificed her right to free speech for her country in service of the same, a woman who at the time of the outing was a mother of twin infants.
That still p*sses me off all to hell more than 3 years later, that these white men with soft hands mouthing platitudes about family values outed a mother with babes for political expediency.
F*ckers. Political whores, the lot of them. I hope this p*sses off Fitzgerald as much as it does this mere wife.
Oh yeah, in case somebody from the White House is monitoring this blog:
I am still waiting for this to happen.
RevDeb – we paid a lot of attention to the Cheney perception aspects of voir dire, but what were the frequency of questions about marital status and profession? I think that was basic stuff covered and I don’t recall any prominant patterns. The defensively giggly woman stands out, but the rest were pretty independent achievers who would have had to learn to deal with this kind of crap already, no?
I wish Fitz would — his voice dripping with sarcasm — refer to Valerie Plame in a way akin to this: “Valerie Plame Wilson, the woman Mr. Wells calls ‘the wife’ but whom I call a ‘CIA operative,’ ‘a valued intelligence asset of the United States of America,’ ‘a seasoned expert on Weapons of Mass Destruction’ whose career was was ultimately destroyed by revelation of her identity…”
Muzzy @ 148
Not unless they are in their 60’s and older. I’m in my mid 50’s and no one I know uses that kind of language unless they are trolling for trouble. I would imagine that younger women would find it the same way, or write him off as out of touch. It just seems too calculated for me and in a way that would/should backfire.
It will be interesting to see if he continues to use that and if Fitz intentionally calls her Mrs. Wilson, Agent Plame,, or whatever. I agree with someone above who said that Fitz would probably counter Wells by humanizing Valerie for the jury. If Fitz does so and Wells continues to do what he’s doing it is just another sign of the arrogant out of touch imperial executive that is currently in power.
Gotta get some sleep now.
RevDeb @ 140
RevDeb — click on the icon at the very bottom of this that says Site Meter. That should take you to a page where you can then access more info than you ever wanted to know about the site traffic . . .
Christy! if you have any hand arthritis inflamation issues, avoid the nightshade family of vegetables(tomatoes, green peppers and potatoes, etc). Sweet potatoes are OK. my arthritis has not flared up at all since i quit eating the above.
we all want you to write and type as fast as you can.
thanks again to all of you for the most excellent work!
oregondave @ 151
there is no icon on the bottom of the page that says sitemeter. I’ve been looking all over.
This is what is at the bottom of the page:
Firedoglake is powered by WordPress | Using Tiga theme with a bit of Ozh 28 queries. 0.866
RevDeb @ 153
On my screen, the SiteMeter icon is centered right below that. Looks like a 4×4×4 Rubic’s Cube.
Nice job, Guys.
On my screen, the SiteMeter icon is centered right below that. Looks like a 44×4 Rubic’s Cube.
there’s nothing below the text line on either Safari or Firefox.
hackworth @
68
sort of along those lines, I only found out today via a Fresh Air interview that Supreme Court commentator Jan Crawford-Greenberg has gone big-time, from PBS to ABC.
punaise @ 157
that’s a step downward in credibility and everything else except perhaps payola.
ABC/DIsney news is the worst, it is the Fox of the networks. Peter Jennings is struggling to get out of his casket to come back and whamp them upside the head.
Dear pogo–we have met the enemy and it is us.
The old commie fighters are themselves being puzzeled
over like some old Politburo picture at a Mayday parade.
For no particular reason, cockney rhyming slang for wife:
Trouble and strife
Duchess of Fife
Bread knife
Bag for life
For husband (old man):
Pot and pan
I like this one for spouse:
Dangermouse
As for sex there’s
The bendy flex
or more distubingly:
The Oedipus Rex
And for girl there is
Twist and Twirl
While boys are
Rob Roys
As for Libby, today he faced Barnaby Rudge and if found clonakilty of his lemon lime, then it’s the rusty nail or ginger ale for him.
i keep thinking that cheney was so concerned about the wilson thing because cheney may have orchestrated the creation of false intel that the administration was touting as justification for war. that’s why the pushback was so fierce.
i know i have this all jumbled, but,do you guys remember those phoney niger documents with funny seals and the wrong names on them and that cia agent that was pushed out a window in the far east somewhere. Italians were in on the false document production also.
should the hague send a paddy wagon to 1600 pennsylvania avenue?
RevDeb @ 155
Hmmm. Then I can’t be of help — I’m using Safari, and the cube’s there for me. Sorry. :>(
late night is up:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..sotu-stfu/
…and has been for quite a while, it seems….
RevDeb @ 156
Odd, because I’m using firefox myself.
Link here if you want to give it one more try.
Also, it could be that if you’ve been refreshing all day long and not shutting down every once and a while, the cache in Firefox can get clogged up. Try restarting and see what that gets you, or give up on it tonight and try checking in the morning.
Liberal Heart @
149
As some might have noticed, I like to use bits from cinema as metaphors—ok, a whole lot. Not only are they memorable and quickly accessible, provided one has seen the film, but they often turn out to be very complex composites of meaning.
This discussion of the use of the grating term, “the wife,” especially considering a lot of aspects of what we might call the millieu of this trial, reminds me of a bit from Vertigo (what were you expecting, A Day at the Races?), when Scotty visits the grave of the departed Madelaine Elster. What does the stone say?
Simply “MADELAINE // wife of Gavin Elster.” As if she were a racehorse. (For the record, I think Gavin Elster one of the evilest characters in modern cinema.) Is this the mentality we’re dealing with? And although Wells has used “the wife” on his own, and is responsible for what he says, I don’t only mean him in this trial. There’s a whole lot of treating people—individuals and whole nations of them, including us—like so many game pieces.
Perhaps we mean a different use of that kind of locution, as in the coda to Psycho when the psychiatrist is attempting to explain Bates to his disbelieving audience. He refers to “the mother,” which obviously has only a tangential relation to the real person who was Bates’s mother; this “the mother” is merely an extension of Bates’s own mind. But of course the woman referred to in court today as “the wife” is not a psychological coping device, but a person, appropriated as a tool by those who would rather see her as less, so that they’ll have been guilty of less.
Either way, it would be interesting to have discussion about the attitudes toward women and toward people in general in the Bush Administration and beyond, that are isolated through the prism of this trial. Certainly the seated jury couldn’t be affected by such discussions—I truly hope!—but our perceptions of who the people presuming to run our society are, and what they might be up to, could benefit.
Re prostratedragon- “a person, appropriated as a tool by those who would rather see her as less, so that they’ll have been guilty of less.”
Fitz really needs to pick up this petty act and blow it up. Present it to the jury. Make Wells defend himself.
I suspect “the wife” expression would make Fitz grind his teeth each time he heard it. A man of his education, age etc, living in Ireland, might use the term affectionately or as a bit of a tease with with his own wife as an acknowledgement that they have moved exponentially beyond his parents generation’s frequent sincere usage of the phrase. There is a touch of the Irish hick about it as the phrase resonates with backward country Irish roots thus throwing a bit of manure on his heritage as well.
CHS, what did you think of Grossman’s testimony? Did he perjure himself? Wasn’t his testimony about Plame organizing the trip an outright lie? Why didn’t Fitz challenge him on this? Also, his testimony about where he got the info about Plame from doesn’t seem accurate. How did the agencies he mentions get the info about Plame?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
I know this is late for the party, but just read this, and I have to say how awfully proud I feel at this monumental moment in history when people of high caliber of intelligence and graciousness are the ones to represent what it means to be a “blogger”…, not a pajama wearing misfit, but a person filled with purpose and integrity working in the honorable pursuit of providing truth to the people who read this blog. I just couldn’t be happier right now. I am so glad that you are changing the perceptions the MSM has of the cyberbound warriors of truth. Hats off to you!!! xoxo
oldtree @ 91
Oldtree – love the handle, your analysis and your style. I hope you’ll be back.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
Sorta fun?! Way Cool CHS, Way Cool! You (in the elevator with the Libbys!!!)and Jane and EW (with the amazing blitz today) and Pach (who rode in the elevator with Fitzgerald) and everyone at FDL! You all ROCK!
you both worked so hard today. you could feel the excitement flow through every word that was written. at times it was shocking as you channeled the truth and so confident on you tube. you both are amazing.
tejanarusa @ 47
exactly
great synopsis of the opening statements. thanks.
Rayne @ 147
I hope you’re not holding your breath waiting for it to happen
If you HAVE been holding your breath all this time, see your doctor soon, cuz you may be dead
(wink)
Great job to both Christy and emptywheel. Riviting reading and yeoman’s (or yeowoman’s) service to the reading public. Thanks to both of you. Now get some rest.
I’ve greatly appreciated the detailed play-by-play and analysis. Thanks.
One question that might have been discussed somewhere and I missed it is:
Is there any hint that Valerie Plame might have been directly working on evaluating Iraq’s nuclear capability and that part of the aim of the ‘outing’ might have been to remove her from her position, where she would have been in a position to debunk the administration’s claims?
This is just speculation. Has it been addressed or brought up before?
Professor Foland @
46
Hear! Hear!
I just wanted to add my thanks and delight at the amazing job you’re doing, Christy and Marcy! Team FDL deserves every bit of recognition you’re getting.
Christy, glucosamine should help any lingering soreness in the ligaments from all the note-taking. Calcium (like Tums) will also help–it acts as a muscle relaxant without making you sleepy.
I do have one question about a question Wells asked Grossman–he asked whether Armitage had read Kristof’s article. Wouldn’t that be hearsay and not admissable? Was there an objection?
More than 120,000 site visits in one day.
You go FDL!!
Healing love to Jane,
Major kudos to Christy!
uncle toby @
129
i am hoping it was some fast acting LSD
i’m way late to the party but thanks, Christy, for the lucid summary of the day …..
Christy and Marcy, you were sensational today. Can’t wait till next week when Judith and Cheney take the stand. Please get lots of sleep, this one’s no sprint.
I am new to firedoglake. Can’t thank you enough!
ds @ 178
I have long thought the same thing. But one aim does not preclude the other.
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Great post, Christy. And I just loved you on the video. Have a great time today (Wednesday).
Christy,
Re Amitage and Novak: I read somewhere that Novak was quoted as saying that Amitage called him to come over and talk to him (not the other way around).In fact, Novak said that he had tried to speak to Armitage on other occasions but Armitage would never talk to him. All of a sudden Armitage calls him and says come over to my office I will talk to you. Also, how about the early Novak quote(something like)” they sought me out,they gave it to me, I didn’t have to dig it out” It seems like to me that Armitage contacted Novak out of the blue and asked him to come talk to him and then told him about Plame. Sounds like Armitage was in on the plan to get back at Wilson for Op-Ed by revealing his wife.