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Wells up.
As you learned a few days ago, my name is Ted Wells. And I speak for Scooter Libby. Scooter Libby is innocent. Totally innocent.
He is an innocent man and he has been wrongly and unfairly accused.
There will be no witness who takes that stand during this trial that will say "I know Scooter Libby intentionally lied." There is no such witness.
There will be no witness who will take the stand and produce a document that shows that Scooter Libby intentionally lied.
There will be no scientific evidence that he lied or gave a false statement.
This is a weak paper thin circumstantial evidence case about he said, she said.
No witness, no documents, no scientific evidence.
People do not lie for the heck of it.
When someone tells an intentional lie, it's because they've done something wrong, they're trying to cover something up. Scooter Libby did not do something wrong. He had nothing to cover up. He was an innocent person and there was no reason to lie.
Scooter Libby was not out pushing any reporter to publish a story.
There will be some at the WH who you will learn pushed reporters to write stories. There will be some at the State Department who pushed reporters to write stories about Mrs. Wilson.
Scooter Libby pushed no one to write story.
Scooter Libby had no knowledge that Ms. Wilson had a classified or cover job before July 14.
No witness will take the stand to say that Scooter Libby knew.
As I stand here right now, I can't tell you whether she was or she wasn't. Walton has decided it's irrelevant.
[this is weird, because Wells is simultaneously trying to say he didn't know, but that we don't know. I think he has already introduced the likelihood that she was, with his statement about July 14.]
Fitz said Libby may have had a motive to lie, because Scottie said you'd lose your job if you leaked.
Mr. Libby was not concerned about losing his job. He was concerned about being set up. He was concerned about being the scapegoat.
Mr. Libby said to the VP, "I think the WH, people are trying to set me up, people want me to be the scapegoat. people in the WH want me to protect Karl Rove." [Swopa--you owe me dinner.]
Cheney made notes of what Libby said. Notes show Libby telling VP that he was not involved in leak. [oops, Wells, accidentally said, "not involved in leak to Karl Rove."
Cheney's note: "Not going to protect one staffer and sacrifice the guy that was asked to stick his neck in the meat grinder because of the incompetence of others."
The person who was to be protected was Karl Rove. Karl Rove was President Bush's right hand person. Karl Rove was the person most responsible for making sure Bush stayed in office. He had to be protected. The person who was to be sacrificed.
11:56
The note apparently had the words "The Pres" on it, but Cheney crossed that out.
Libby was sent out to respond to Wilson on the merits. Libby was asked to be the person to go out and deal with the reporters. Mr. Libby's job was not to deal with reporters [Wells, this is helping you HOW? Sounds like Dick thought this was an important thing for Dick.]
Wells rehearses Libby's very important and top secret job.
He started at 7 in the morning dealing with the most important national security issues of this country. But there's no dispute, you heard it from him (Fitz).
My client had a day job, one of the most serious day jobs in the country.
They took him off his day job and told him to deal with the press. [well now wonder you mess up our security! I still don't see how this helps!]
He had to deal with Al Qaeda [big surprise, they're humping terrorism over and over.]
In real time, in June and July, in terms of Scooter Libby, Ms. Wilson, where she worked, was no big deal to him.
[Note, I can't tell whether people are calling her Ms. Wilson or Mrs. Wilson or what.]
I'll speak for Scooter Libby. She was not a big deal.
When the note by the VP refers to the incompetence of others refers to the whole controversy over the 16 words had been caused in great part by the incompetence of the people at the CIA who let the words get into the speech in the first place.
So Mr. Libby because of the incompetence of th CIA had to go into the meat grinder.
"They're trying to set me up, they want me to be the sacrificial lamb."
I demand I will not be sacrificed so Karl Rove can be protected.
Cheney forces the WH to say to the press the same things they had said about Karl Rove.
But unlike Karl Rove, Libby had not been pushing this story.
Mr. Libby was just a staffer, an important staffer, but Karl Rove was the lifeblood of the Republican party.
FBI interview. Mr. Libby came voluntarily. [no indication yet whether he brought his own notes.]
Libby's lawyer–have not permitted him to speak to his staffers. Did not let him refer to his notes that his staffers take. The way he normally would refresh his memory would be to sit down with his staff. [still no mention of his own damn notes.]
12:04
He did his best to recollect.
When he was trying to remember, it was October.
This case is about 3 telephone calls. 3 months later, he is being asked, what do you recall, with specificity ,about what was being said on a phone call.
Wells' voice is rising.
These conversations may have taken 20-30 seconds at most. Who can remember. [Note Wells makes no mention of the 2 hour meeting with Judy]
Says Libby's notes do not reflect anything about any call concerning the wife. [can I just say this "the wife" stuff doesn't work for this woman.] [Also note, Wells is maintaining that Libby's notes don't relate to Plame, he's got to argue the NIE thing is convincing.]
Judy's notes are cryptic, he says.
Wells now trying to distract from the war. This is not about the war.
Let me tell you what I'm gonna do this morning. We're going to take a break for lunch, I don't want any one to get antsy about lunch.
Wells has his downhome voice on now.
"This is a case about memory, about recollection, and about words."
The debate between Cooper and Libby is about four words.
Says Cooper's version is totally consistent with "the concept" of Mr. Libby's version. One way to tell that a reporter has not confirmed something is to look at the notes, if someone has not confirmed something. If someone has confirmed something, it'll be in the notes. In terms of a concept, forget the particular words, Mr. Libby did not confirm anything. [How appropriate, a postmodern defense for Scooter Libby.]
[Note, he dropped the Cooper thing, no mention yet of the Russert conversation. Did Libby also remain consistent with the "concept" of learning this from Russert?]
Wells is taking a side-conversation to emphasize the importance of the jurors. You and you alone with be the ultimate judges of Scooter Libby. Scooter Libby cannot be sacrificed based on your feelings about the war.
[Interesting that Wells knows the war is a lost cause. There was a time when they didn't think it was--they wanted to argue BushCO's case on the war. Nothing to do with the war on the charges.]
Scooter Libby is 56 years old. Born August 1950. He's trained as a lawyer. Went to Yale undergrad. Columbia Law School.
"He's been a Scooter since a little boy. Everyone calls him Scooter. He's always been Scooter because he's just moving."
Talking about law, State Department, Defense. During the Administration of first President Bush, Libby worked in Defense, that's how he got to know Cheney. When Cheney became VP under Bush.
Scooter Libby had two jobs. National Security Advisor and Chief of Staff. [No, Wells, Libby had three jobs--he also worked at the White House, you recall, as Assistant to Bush. Why not mention that?]
Wells setting up "such issues of secrecy and national importance that the details could hurt the country, I accept that."
When the note talks about the meat grinder, that was in addition to his day job. We'll go through what was going on in his day job in addition to the meat grinder.
12:17
"The wife" was like a sliver, in addition to his day job.
[Wells has a bunch of bullet points up.]
- He gave his best good faith recollection.
- Any misstatements by Libby were innocent mistakes.
- Libby had no knowledge that Valerie Wilson's job status was classified.
- Libby did not push reporters to write about Valerie Wilson.
- Libby did not leak to Robert Novak: Richard Armitage did.
- Libby is innocent and had no motive to lie.
He's doing this in detail.
Libby got the understanding that the investigation was about how leaked to Novak because DOJ wrote a letter to BushCo telling the investigation was focused on Novak.
A new slide up, showing the five charges.
Of obstruction "it involves the three false statements" [see, they're trying to yoke these]
Under all five, in red, it says, Libby has not been charged with leaking to classified information.
"What they did was take 3 phone calls and made it into 5 charges."
[Wells is trying to distract from all the officials beforehand, the lie about whether Libby knew of Plame or not.]
Wells says Miller doesn't have her own charge. She's just part of the "umbrella" chare, obstruction charge. [Not true, she's also a part of the second perjury charge--they're trying to make the Cooper lies JUST about Cooper.]
New slide: Three Calls, Three Reporters, Three Months Later
[Hey Wells, what about those 8 government officials? Where do they fit into your neat schema???]
New slide,
We have our first mention of 9/11!!
[half an hour in, I'm rather surprised it took so long! WOT WOT WOT]
Wells is implying that Iraq is tied to WOT.
Wells mentions that tonight is SOTU. Ironic, four years since this SOTU.
"16 words" those become important because Wilson said, I was sent.
12:26
Wells is giving a chronology of 9/11, SOTU, Iraq War.
That's all background to a newspaper article that really starts the beginning of this case.
Starts with Kristof's article. Published by Mr. Kristof. Talks about an unnamed US Ambassador.
Implicit suggestion is that somehow VP Cheney either let Bush make a false statement or VP Cheney and Presidnet Bush have gotten together and made the false statement together. [Wells, can I pick "C," all of the above.]
Vice President Cheney didn't know anything. Those are the facts. [Well is using the title Vice President any chance he gets. You know, "the wife" versus "Vice President Cheney"?]
It will be undisputed that Cheney didn't know Wilson and didn't get any report.
Holy Shit!! Wells says "the next article" after Kristof's is Wilson's!!!!
I guess Pincus' and the TNR article, they just plum don't exist. What a shameless lie!
I'm guessing Wells is papering over the Pincus and TNR article because
- They don't want to admit that Libby lied to Pincus about Cheney's role
- They don't want to admit that Edelman (who Fitz didn't mention by name yet) wanted to leak in response to the TNR article.
Wells is also misrepresenting what Wilson said in his op-ed. He said that Joe said the VP Richard Cheney sent me. Which is a misstatement about the oped, which says Cheney made an inquiry, which got Wilson sent.
We're back to Libby in the meat grinder, in addition to his day job.
"The next article is Novak's."
One of the things you will learn, although everyone talks about Novak's article being published on July 14. Business records show that Mr. Novak had completed the article by July 11. And that when he completed the article by July 11 he sent it to a company whose job it was to send it out to newsrooms and media outlets. You'll learn that the records show that the Novak article is actually sent to over 85 newspapers on the 11th. This so-called secret that Mrs. Wilson worked at the CIA. It is on July 11 that it is in 85 newsrooms. They can't publish it to the regular public yet. It's in the newsrooms of over 85 papers. Just sitting over there at the post.
Mr. Libby, you'll learn, has been charged with conversations on the 12th, conversations that are after Novak has written the story and it's sitting in the newsroom.
Wells has his own time line.
Lunch Time!! Reconvene at 1:40.
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Fitz!
Whoo hoo! Saving Karl’s butt….
holy crap!?!?! they’re gonna try and dump this whole thing on Rove!?!?!
Justice!
Fitz!
THis is an interesting tactic. Looks like Team Libby is going to put on a proxy Rove (and Bush by extension) trial in order to argue that Libby didn’t do anything. And then try to impugn Fitzgerald by implicating that he got the wrong guy. Might work to some degree with those predisposed not to like the admin (esp. KKKarl)
Somehow, I think Wells is damning Scooter with faint defense here. Did he know he was coming up after Fitzgerald played the tapes?
Blaming Rove and implicitly implicating Cheney? Kiss that pardon good-bye…
Cranky
Bee-yoo-tiful.
A full-on razor fight to keep Libby afloat by torpedoing Karl Frickin’ Rove.
-GSD
I though hear say was aokay with this bunch of losers. Hang him!
“There will be some at the WH who you will learn pushed reporters to write stories. There will be some at the State Department who pushed reporters to write stories about Mrs. Wilson.”
Wow. :: digs hand into popcorn::
This is gonna be good.
These guys are amazingly self serving.
Am I hearing this correctly? Did they just throw Karl under the bus?
Looks to me like the defense strategy is to do at least half of Fitz’s next investigation for him.
Not only under the bus, they told the bus driver to back up a few times.
-GSD
Saint Brigid @ 11
Yup. Oh, cruel fates! Encore! Encore!
Hanging the family laundry out is a good defense?
Spraying bullets around trying to muddy the waters and hide Scooter.
I must admit, I am loooving this.
Cheney,
Rove,
can Bush be far behind?
Libby is blaming ROVE?
What a hilarious nightmare for the right-wing.
Glad they gave so much to that Scooter Libby Defense Fund now!?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
So far, this does not disappoint. :)
At the risk of repeating myself (looking for thoughts on this), I posted this late in the last thread:
MSNBC article up now.
Attaturk @ 16
I am reminded of the immortal words of P.T. Barnum…
GSD @ 7
OMFG.
Did Fitz expect this and is Rove the immunized witness?
Or am I just whistlin’ Dixie?
Damn!!!
Beautiful job, wheel.
Libby is blaming Karl Rove?
You mean vitally important apparatchik Karl Rove, the man responsible for the Republican loss of congress and for the 62% drop in George W. Bush’s approval ratings? THAT Karl Rove?
-GSD
I wonder if Rove is sitting in his windowless office, yelling (like he did about someone who would not do what he wanted before the 2004 election), “I’m gonna f**k `em, y’hear, me? I’m gonna f**k `em like they’ve never been f**ked before!”
:)
Full-blown attack. Listening to MSNBC. Discussing polls regarding how majority of Americans are not confident in Bush’s competency. This is amazing. Yesterday polls that said American are more confident in Cheney than Bush. Are we witnessing a Cheney vs. Bush smack-down?
WOW! The survival instinct is amazing for sure.
MSNBC…
“Fitzgerald alleged that Libby in September 2003 “destroyed” a Cheney note just before Libby’s first FBI interview when he said he learned about Wilson from reporters, not the vice president”
I think this means that Rove turned. And Libby (and Cheney) are going back at him. Good luck, they will take down each other.
And thanks EW and everyone. This is fabulous!
montag @ 23
It has to hurt, getting thrown under the bus at precisely the moment the wheels come off.
I wonder if the McCain assault on Cheney has something to do with this whole shebang?
-GSD
There is NO joy in Scumbagville today.
-GSD
Saint Brigid @ 24
More of a Cheney vs. Bush limbo contest.
mc @
20
You might be right!! That also could explain the non-mention of Rove in Fitz’s opening statement. Would that this were true! It will be an all-out bloodbath, Cheney v. Bush. Whomever was talking about the Godfather analogy was right on target.
Pat_AlexVA @ 26
That is the best quote from the article! I just posted that on another site (to keep from manically refreshing FDL, of course!)
Libby fishes for a pardon, doesn’t get it.
Libby goes to trial, and throws Karl Rove under the bus.
Is this a fine State of the Union, or what?
And, wasn’t that a bit bizarre today on the Washington Post with Cheney’s daughter going after Hillary (and the Dems & the Repugs increasingly against the war). They have no one left with any credibility. Pretty soon Barbara Bush will be hauled out to make a comment. Oh scratch that, she has no credibility either.
I have to give props to Marcy for having the mental toughness to keep paraphrasing for us without missing a beat. If I were there, I would have dropped the ‘puter and screamed WTF.
Christy must be just shaking in the courtroom…
Funny thing. Wells is trying to make the case for mutual exclusivity, i.e., if others were talking to reporters, trying to spread a story, Libby had no motive to do so.
Clearly, this is not mutually exclusive. They were all trying to stomp out the flaming bag of dogshit Wilson left on the White House doorstep.
It has to hurt, getting thrown under the bus at precisely the moment the wheels come off.
This is the “quote to beat” in the “funniest remark” contest….
WOuld Cheney have admitted to giving Libby the note?
montag @ 23
Liveblogger just laughed through her nostrils. Not a good thing. You;ll make her look unserious.
Adding insult to injury.
DC Mayor Fenty tells Pickles Bush to go screw, he’s gonna sit next to Speaker Pelosi at the SOTU, or should I say future President Pelosi.
Sorry Pickles.
-GSD
EW:
Your account is riveting!!! You’re doing an amazing job!
Libby vs Rove is congruent to Cheney vs Bush!
Be still, my beating heart.
I gotta go look at a right-wing blog to see their heads exploding!
Terre @ 18
I’m wondering if the note “in his file” was electronic. There was a lot of Iran-Contra stuff that the conspirators thought they’d deleted, but they were all executive-level people who weren’t technical enough to know about backups. This could be the same thing.
montag @ 37
The Pooh-shoe Theory.
-GSD
Jane S. pointed out in the last thread that the news of Cheney’s involvement will overshadow Bush’s anemic SOTU this evening. You really have to wonder if anyone is awake at the switch at the White House. It’s not like they didn’t know about the Libby Trial. They might not have known the precise day when opening statements were going to be made but they could have made an educated guess and scheduled the SOTU last week. This would have put it after the January 10 speech about the New Way Forward/escalation in Iraq and would have allowed Bush to say that having concentrated on Iraq the previous week he would use the SOTU to discuss his domestic agenda (as he is expected to do anyway). Alternately, he could have postponed it to next Tuesday the 30th and hoped the news cycle containing the openining statements was uneventful or, if not, had had time to play itself out some. As it is, the timing could not be worse for the President. Did they not know or is it that they simply don’t care and never did?
Boy, talk about a proxy war!
-GSD
Richmond @ 35
Neither does Cheney, but they keep trotting him out too. Heehee.
As much as I hope justice headbutts BushCo and the cabal collapses, I also hope Fitzgerald is vindicated in all of this. The subtle, and not so subtle, jabs taken at that man over the last few years are nauseating.
Last week, when Wells insinuated Fitzgerald had been chatting up his case in the media, I wanted to strangle Mr. Paul Weiss (yeah, I’m not always about pax et bonum). Fitzgerald has been a model of restraint and virtue. I hope now more people realize what a great man he is.
Take ‘em down, Fitz.
Richmond @ 35
“Fenty Won’t Sit With Laura Bush At Speech”
“D.C. Mayor Adrian M. Fenty has declined a White House invitation to sit with first lady Laura Bush at tonight’s State of the Union address, deciding to attend the event as a guest of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01321.html
Ouch.
Sounds like a win-win for Fitz. Even an acquittal would mean the end of the administration as we know it. Which may have been the plan all along.
EW – you’re insanely good at this live blogging – it’s better than being there – thank you
I would think there are quite a few in the jury who would find the “Scooter” name a bit bizarre. He is an adult, he has an adult name, why isn’t Wells using it, they would think. Scooter is the name of a nasty kid who goes and punches someone than runs away to avoid any consequences. Scooter is NOT someone really trustable or likable.
I vote for Rove as being the one immunized remembering the times he met with the prosecutors but mostly because he is such a (fill in the blank). Taking deep breaths here.
May I just say, EW, that all of this is AWESOME!
Even if you owe Swopa a dinner, you’re going to make out like a bandit — please allow me to take you guys out to dinner while you’re here. (You should have enough nights that all of us local firepups won’t have to fight for the chance.)
They’re gonna need a cannon net before this is over. HAH!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_netting
Let’s not forget that Jim Webb will have his industrial strength blow-torch out tonight and he’ll have it aimed at Bush’s ass.
-GSD
That Godfather analogy is spot on.
Libby’s defense makes Bush a liar.
He said he would fire any involved in the leak. If he is saying that the WH wanted to scapegoat him to protect Rove, that means the President of the United States, the Decider, lied to the American people when he said he would fire those involved.
The best way I can explain what I just saw.;
Rove the Rat?
Nobody likes a rat.
-GSD
In whose bed will the horse’s head show up?
I just had a thought, if indeed Rove is the immunized witness, does this mean that Cheney is actually being called to impeach ROVE? What fireworks THAT will be.
So, if Bush vs Cheney, then is this payback for no pardon? Or is no pardon retaliation for something Cheney did/wanted to do to Bush’n’Karl? Bigger? Badder? They are coming unglued!
I have the hiccups. I have to go do some work now.
GSD @ 57
almost forgot Webb! Whoa. Honey. Wanna pick up another tub-a popcorn while yer out?!
Goodness gracious what a delicious day!
mc @ 60
That I don’t know, but I bet it is Jeff Gannon who puts it there.
mc @ 60
Dunno. But, fer sure, the horse’s ass will be found in Laura’s….
I cannot imagine how Christy is sitting still in the courtroom. A spectator is not allowed to make faces, react or anything, at least last time I was in a courtroom those were the rules.
Christy must be just going nuts!
Can’t wait to hear her take over lunch.
Oh, and Ambassador Wilson, THIS is what the justice system is supposed to look like. We hope it warms your heart at least a bit.
Somewhat related — I was pleased to hear Richard Clarke on Diane Rehm this morning. She asked why he left the Bush administration, and he said flat-out that it was because they lied about the connection between Iraq and al-Qaeda. Said he’d told them there was no connection. She asked who he told, and he said the president, the vice president, the national security advisor, anyone who would listen.
mc @ 61
that joke’s off limits. sorry. tender horseypersons abound in the neigh-borhood.
Thanks ;->
Damn. Marcy, your steeltrap mind peeks through in subtle snippets. Prolly pretty tough, liveblogging in a Federal Trial of traitors.
I have not followed the details of the case simply because, in my redneck mind, I knew what was going on. Kudo’s to all in the blogosphere that may have played a role in this denoument.
To this end, please support this pioneering effort of “citizen journalism” and hit the paypal button early and often.
montag @ 65
707
Just a shout out to the Krewe in D.C.
You are providing a fantastic report.
Redshift @ 68
yeah. Clarke’s been all over the place lately, and smiling a lot. hmmmm. kinda nice…
They’re all in the loop, and it’s going to come out.. they can’t do the modified limited hang out… the house of cards is shaking… these are lying scum of the earth…
If only their real agenda of greed, and power is revealed… The most important job in the country.. my culo.
These people are worse than the Nixon crowd by 10.
Unless they lie their asses off in one hell of a coordinated effort to kabuki the hell out us… they are gone..
I can now admit, I have absolutely no willpower – I am NOT getting any work done today! I’m hooked on the trial all ready! Thanks for this, FDL (even if it does cost me my job). :^) As soon as payday comes, there will be a snailmail check coming your way!
mc @ 71
Oh Heck! Now THAT one is good! ;->
What RevDeb said @ 67. Maybe there will be a picture of (incredulous) Christy in action when she posts.
See what Jane wrought.
Redshift @ 44 on Terre @ 18
Ooooo – Makes sense! – Now that would be wonderful, wouldn’t it?
:::rubbing hands together:::
Libby, SOTU, Democratically led congressional investigations.
Anybody see the meat in that sandwich?
DefJef @ 74
They only coordinate when they are in hiding. If somebody throws open the doors and discovers them, they throw each other under the bus. We just saw that 10 minutes ago. I’m not holding my breath for kabuki.
It seems pretty clear now that Ari Fleischer is the immunized government witness (’said things to reporters he wasn’t supposed to’ per the government’s opening statement).
Rove is apparently going to be called, if he is called at all, by the defense – not by the government – and if the defense is in fact officially gunning for him, watch out…
All because of this Godawful war and because Bush so wanted to be a ‘war president’ so that he could push and push and push his agenda….because everyone loves a war president.
His wish came true has been his undoing.
How poetic that it is unfolding like a well written story.
-GSD
These people ARE Nixon’s crowd!
DefJef @ 74
DefJef @ 74
Firedogs – love and respect ya all but why in the hell are any of you surprised to see these interlopers turn on one another ?!?!? especially within this inner circle of concentrated evil, they have never been smart, discrete or picky about it – my gawd, an NOC and untold number of folks working with her ? f’ ‘em – out they go and for nothing more than petty political pique -
They’re All Wearing The Same Damn Amulet !
OMG! This is fantabulous and I’m hooked I tells ya (my day off from work and I’ve gotten nothing done on the homefront).
Looks like it’s the Libby versus KKKarl Defense strategery. Libby was the sacrificial lamb to protect pigboy’s butt…oh I love the smell of loyalty here amongst these criminals. Thank YOU for doing such an important and real time job. IMHO, Pigboy no doubt squealed to save his butt.
And if that goombah tries any rough stuff you tell him I ain’t no bandleader!
This kabuki has turned into a bukkake.
-GSD
This is SO wonderful… I’m not getting any work done, either.
So, I wonder how the wingers are going to spin this one? On second thought, they will probably just try to ignore it and talk catty about Pelosi’s outfit.
cbl @ 84
It’s not surprise, cbl – it’s schadenfreude.
Rove the Rat = Rove Sealed V. Sealed = Immunized Wintess = Jason Leopold was right….go figure.
GSD @ 82
Only part true. Don’t forget the Neo Cons in the administration and beyond – Perle, Crystal et al, it was not any war that would do, but one specifically in the Middle East that would bring about dramatic change and destabilization.
GSD @
41
Whoa! Pickles isn’t even on her own A list.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0123.html
Yikes. I’m reminded of the line delivered by Powers Boothe as Alexander Haig in Oliver Stone’s “Nixon”:
“You have the Army. Lincoln used it.”
There is a dangerous confluence of events happening here. Scooter trial. SOTU. Iran.
OFG @ 79:
Why did they make the sandwich inside out? (Messy, but allows for more flavor!)
Can we focus on some important news like Sandy Berger stealing the constitution or Obama’s apprenticeship with Bin Laden please.
-GSD
omg GSD ! you’ll make our Jane split her stitches !!
everybody ! . . .
Overzealous Prosecutor Runs Amok
Does this mean Libby doesn’t expect a pardon?
This Rove versus Libby versus Cheney bizness – as much as anything else in this corrupt administration is marked evidence that Bush has absolutely no clue. Anyone else would have sat down with the 3 of them and said work it out, select a fall guy among you – in terms of blame (big Oil and Halliburtan could easily have given the fall guy a half a billion).
“I’ll see your ‘It was all Rove’s fault.’ And raise you an attack on Iran.”
St. Brigid,
The USS Stennis arrives in the Persian Gulf at the end of February.
Read this article and the open threats and warmongering going on now.
These are perilous times.
-GSD
But ya still gotta keep on smilin.
Thank you for bringing this amazing spectacle to life for us.
On the first day of Fitzmas Dick Cheney wished to see, a cartridge in I. Libby!
GSD @ 95
calling all missing white chiks!!!!!
Maybe the obvious accusations toward Rove are a way to warn the White House and thus encourage them to issue an immediate pardon.
Schuster on MSNBC: Libby rolling over on Rove.
Pax et Bonum @ 104
I feel like I done died and gone to heaven.
The snake takes on the weasel.
-GSD
All of you on this blog owe jason leopold an apology. Big time.. Everything Fitzgerald said in his opening leopold reported a year ago, including the destruction of documents. I just went to the truthout raw story archive snd found that leopold was the first to report cheneys involvement, missing documents and the fact that doca were destroyed. He reported this before anyone snd he was smeared for it! I advise everyone to look for themselves and then apologize accordingly. I just sent leopold my own apology. I think he is going to be vindicated. Snd so will his rove story. I don’t think anyone saw this coming. I cannot believe how much info he had that we all dismissed as bs.
There seems to be an inherent contradiction in all this. If Libby is so important, how can he be yanked off to do scut work dealing with the press? If he isn’t important, how can he be said to have “one of the most serious jobs in the country”? If it wasn’t scut work, if it really was important, then how can Libby say that this was so important that I got pulled from my usual extremely important duties for something even more urgent, which I promptly forgot about because it wasn’t important.
As it was, he was the 4th most powerful person in the White House after Bush, Cheney, and Rove. So who exactly was this “they” who “took him off his day job”? Well gee, I don’t know. I mean that there were only 3 people more powerful than he was, and it was impossible for Rove on his own initiative to make that kind of a decision without involving both Bush and Cheney. So let me see, that leaves Bush or Cheney, and again if it had been Bush, it could not have been done without at least informing Cheney that his chief of staff was being hijacked. So this “they” really just reduces to Cheney who was Libby’s boss after all.
This not only doesn’t help, it hurts.
Rove must be the immunizied witness!
I worked on the Hill in the 60’s and am a political junkie–had to get a TV in the 70’s to watch the Watergate hearings. This is just as riveting! WOW! Thanks FDL.
Solai @ 103
Hmmmmmm
Solai @ 103
huh?
S-Q @ 107
Not if he’s a defense witness….
Terre @
78
David Schuster on MSNBC just said he wanted to clear up the confusion about this. He said the note was found in Libby’s files a considerable amount of time later after it was written. he said Libby is not charged with destroying or hiding evidence.
rose Marie @ 106
He may have been “on” at the beginning, but by the end, you just couldn’t trust anything very much that he said. Wasn’t one of the later items 5 indictments were coming on Friday (or something like that?). No apologies owed.
Wow. Just…wow.
Having to choose between referring to Libby as “Scooter” or “Irving” is a nice representation of the other decisions Wells has to make in selecting defenses for ol’ Scoots.
I am surprised that Wells mentioned the Columbia law degree, when he’s trying to claim that prosecuting/persecuting Libby for PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION was incidental to the real reason for the leak investigation. Hope Fitz jumps on that. Scooter too important to remember law school?
Didn’t think I’d enjoy the defense so much. Many thanks again.
If Well’s is making up his own time-line to throw dirt in the eyes of the jury; that will come back to bite him in the ass.
Wells is spinning like a top because he has to keep in mind the civil suit also!!
viget @
32
i’ve changed my mind… I’ll be watching the SOTU tonight, Bush, Cheney and Nancy Pelosi all on the screen together… reading body language much???
Steve @ 116
I was thinking the same thing. Unless some of the intermediary items are not allowed.
S-Q @ 108
That was my thought, too. All the more reason for Scooter’s team to throw Rove under the bus. It’s actually safe to do so. Rove can’t be touched if he’s gotten immunity so why not blame him. This plan of defense could have been orchestrated by both.
Wells’ Scooter-serving timeline is an interesting development, though. Lots more sand, this time in 12 umpires’ eyes….
Adie @ 111
What I’m saying is that Wells is warning Rove etc. that their reputations will be destroyed if this trial moves forward. That might be a powerful incentive to pardon Libby. They’ll be comparing which is more devasting to them: issuing a pardon or letting Libby expose them.
Bush can’t really pardon Libby in the middle of the trial…that would set off a shitstorm to beat all shitstorms.
-GSD
bwaahaaahaa
Prince Valium is covering the trial for The Corner – watch him Marcy ! don’t let him ‘copy’ !!!
KathieinMN @ 113 on Terre @ 78
Thanks Kathie. I just caught that as well. I suppose we’ll have to just wait for the details when the witnesses come up. However, destroying a file (if that’s what actually happened) would (INAL) be considered obstruction of justice – IMHO.
Dont a few twenty second phone calls imply that each party was already aware of many details..
Snakes throwing each other off the plane…
Totally OT – just waking up in NZ. I’ve been on a heavy dream cycle the last few nights. So here is one from last night.
Patrick Fitzgerald and I are standing in front of a piano keyboard. He is courteously polite, until I mention that I’ve been following the case through fdl. He lights up, smiles, and takes me seriously. I say, his melody on the keyboard is not completely melodious, but I think it is because he needs one more key, that is missing beyond the top range of keys. I tell him that I’ve been assured that he will provide that key at the right time for a sweet melody. He smiles, shakes his head, and says, no, he has to work with the keys that are on the keyboard and he can’t add anything. But his eyes twinkle and he laughs, sure that he can do this. I wake up, reassured. By the way, he looks as good in the dream as in his pictures….
Richmond
Leopold NEVER reported that there would be five indictments. That’s a myth. It was actually reported by Radar online. Of all places.
But I agree with Rose. Leopold is starting to look more right than even I believed.
This is it, isn’t it? It just doesn’t get much better. Thanks to you all: ew and pach, you’ve done a phenomenal job delivering the news as it happens, complete with real-time, in-line commentary. Wow.
Reddhedd, Jane – thanks for what you started.
Richmond @ 114
I agree totally, Richmond. You can’t just claim speculation as fact, in the absence of evidence. Far better to err on the side of caution & proof. You might miss a scoop once in awhile, but FDL’s sterling reputation for accuracy will be preserved. imo Good job done by FDL crew on that one.
Is it 1:40 yet? Thank you guys sooooo much. This work deserves a C. Medal of Honor!
Emptywheel and the gang,
This is truly a revolution in newsreporting — having the worlds leading expert in a the trial of the decade liveblogging.
Ms Wheeler, your knowledge of the case is comprehensive, you see the lies and the contradictions and the implications of each statement almost before they are out of the mouths of the conspirators and their lawyers. And, you can comment in real time, not having to answer to anybody but yourself and the truth.
Truly a revolution. Thank you Jane, Christy, and the whole crew for setting this up.
Adie @ 130
Really? Isn’t that what emptywheel is doing? She claims to have broken a number of stories based of sheer speculation
Dino @ 128
Maybe somewhere down the line it would be interesting to have a post dealing with Leopold, and the correct/not postings. (Already it seems drinks and dinners are owed a couple of people here). I didn’t follow Leopold that closely in the beginning, and at the end, with all the bubbly hopeful “fitzing” before the indictments were announced I seem to have accidentally thrown a bunch of posts together in my mind. My mistake. Faulty memory. Oops, that is what this trial is about – in part.
If the guy is right he’s right. What’s the big deal in saying so?
Terry Olson @ 117
How could I forget about the sequel? Yummy, yummy popcorn. Never really cared for bloodsports ’til now.
Calling out to Darkblack for the coliseum with Libby, Rove, etc. decked out as gladiators and doing each other grievious bodily harm!
Must go fetch child now. Can’t wait to catch up later!
Hugh @
106
Such good sense and logic here, Hugh.
You would NOT have been seated on this jury, drat!
This case involves a complicated time line and a huge number of individuals. Wells’s tactics clearly indicate that he hopes the jury will be confused and stay that way, throughout the proceedings. Why else would he introduce the publication schedule of Novak’s article, other than to raise doubt in the minds of the jury members with respect to Libby’s conversation and his perjury/obstruction. Given the complexity, Fitzgerald would be well advised to construct a gigantic, graphic ‘mind map’ of the movement of individual ‘bits’ of information for the jury to refer to, and an explanation of the importance of each step that each bit of information took along the way. He needs to make it easy for the jury to spot whenever Wells is obfuscating or omitting relevant information, or accusing Russert, Martin, Hadley, Addington, et al of lying to scapegoat Libby. Don’t get me wrong! I’m not arguing that the jury is a collection of brainless twits. I’m simply admitting the reality that this trial is by no means a slam dunk for Fitz. And if you think it should be easy for the jury to connect the dots all by themselves, ask yourselves this: “Without Kos’s timeline to refer to, or the collected postings of emptywheel, Christy, Jane, Waas, and others, most of us would be at a loss to keep it all straight (and frankly, I’ve probably forgotten more about this case than I’ll ever know!). Despair not, however, for Fitz is a good man, and a very clever one, and he knows exactly what to do. He’s had plenty of time to plan and to practice. He just needs to execute the plan exactly and he’ll have his conviction (and a whole lot more, if I’m not mistaken, and as so many have noted previously, there is so much dirt and slime surrounding the perjury and obstruction charges that anyone–ANYONE–paying the least bit of attention will come away from this with a really bad taste in their mouth about Bush, Cheney, and the rest). And with any luck, we might see other indictments arising out of this trial.
MSNBC coming with the “stunning” report after the commercial.
I have already voted the post on the Fitzgerald opening statement the Best Blog Post in Human History(tm). I guess we will have to create another awards process, similar to the Golden Globes/Oscars, to give _this_ a Best Blog Post Ever award.
Cranky
Well, well, well.
Is it just me, or is Mr. Wells defending Scooter against charges under the espionage act as well as a pretty feeble defense against the actual charges?
BC
Dino @133: That is an outrageous comment. Emptywheel never makes her comments based on “sheer speculation.” That’s outrageous. Rather she is drawing from a careful reading of the sources, and her own expert weighing of the issues in question. The problem with Leopold was, as I recall, that he was claiming to have this “inside source” who over and over again proved to have the story wrong.
Trial is now lead on MSNBC.com.
“Prosecutor: Libby ‘wiped out’ Cheney memo”
Well, aren’t we optimistic. :)
Was the bet that Libby’s lawywer would or wouldn’t mention Rove in his opening statement?
Get all the latest Libby trial news, legal documents, timelines and other essential materials at:
“The CIA Leak/PlameGate Resource Center.”
new thread
Cheney Spearheaded effort to discredit Wilson
Februay 9, 2006 by Jason leopold
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bi…..i/57/17576
White House discovers emails related to Plame leak
february 24 2006 by Jason Leopold
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bi…..i/57/17972
Um, why do I feel like much of this “anonymous” sourced material was just corroborated by Fitzgerald this morning?
(long-time lurker)
Can we have a sweepstake on who the immunised witness might be?
Bargain Countertenor @ 141
It certainly does look that way, doesn’t it? Libby is either guilty of an IIPA violation, or ALL of the people who told Libby about Plame failed to inform him that her status was classified. Wells is in a tight spot here, because he has to defend his (obviously guilty) client against the current charges without also exposing him to additional charges. That’s why the memory defense is so tricky. If you’re claiming that you forgot that you told Judy Miller about Plame, you’re pretty much admitting that you did, in fact, tell Miller about Plame.
I like the defense’s blame-it-on-Rove strategy, but I don’t see how it’s going to work. The key is relevance. Libby is charged with being a liar. The fact that Rove is a sleazebag has no bearing on the fact that Libby is a liar.
GSD at 100:
St. Brigid,
The USS Stennis arrives in the Persian Gulf at the end of February.
Read this article and the open threats and warmongering going on now.
These are perilous times.
-GSD
But ya still gotta keep on smilin.
—-
Agreed. Hey–It’s not like I’m just waking up to this. They’ve been working on Iran for at least a year. There were two things that occurred to me about the timing of events:
1. If it is Scooter vs. Rove, the “March” timeline for Iran may be accelerated in this rather high-stakes power poker game
2. They may still still working together; Scooter and veep are doing a “Miller’s Crossing” with Bush–I just don’t know if they’re smart enough to pull it off.
Just a thought. FWIW
Richmond @
142
Did anyone prove Leopold didn’t have an inside source? Not to my recollection. And all I am saying is that the stuff I read that Fitz and Wells said this morning fits with what Leopold reported last year. So I don’t know how you can say he was always wrong. I just went through the darn archives and I feel stupid because it looks like a lot of it, based on what we are hearing today, is true.
So please explain to me who is responsible for spreading the disinformation?
MSNBC – Noron. Asking Andy Cark and Leon Panetta if Cheney will survive the trial ….
From the Guardian today (via Atrios):
WHAM!
It’s a Cheney-Rove Slugfest!
Who will throw the other under Fitzy’s bus first? Or will they BOTH go down?
Hmmm. I wonder if Fitz will ask Timmy and Cheney their conversation on September 14, 2003. From Jason Leopold’s current article:
On September 14, 2003, during an interview with Tim Russert of NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Cheney maintained that he didn’t know Wilson or have any knowledge about his Niger trip or who was responsible for leaking his wife’s name to the media. But Cheney knew Wilson well. He had spent months obsessing about him, according to court filings.
“I don’t know Joe Wilson,” Cheney said, in response to Russert, who had quoted Wilson as saying there was no truth to the Niger uranium claims. “I’ve never met Joe Wilson. And Joe Wilson – I don’t know who sent Joe Wilson. He never submitted a report that I ever saw when he came back … I don’t know Mr. Wilson. I probably shouldn’t judge him. I have no idea who hired him.”
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012307J.shtml
Dino @ 135
a. A lot of the things that are being declared ‘right’ are also speculation. (Rove’s been immunized, Rove’s part of a sealed indictment.) I’ll wait for actual evidence, thank you.
b. Because of the danger of the “pundit fallacy.” If a guy throws out a lot of speculation and part of it turns out to be right, it doesn’t make him a genius, it may mean he got lucky. The reason pundits are so bad is that they can get a reputation by making one unlikely prediction and having it turn out to be correct, because people will forget the scads of times they went out on a limb and were wrong.
Redshift @ 155
that is definitely the truest statement of the day. Well said
I’m not a lawyer, but Canuck Stuck in Muck@138 raises what seems like an interesting puzzle.
It seems to me that what Fitz could do is not only put up a timeline, but overlay Wells’ timeline to show what he left out and why the omissions are significant.
I’m not familiar enough with such things to know when or if he’d have a chance to do that, or whether it would be advisable, though.
annx@152: She should have a couple of heart surgeons on to ask them if Cheney will survive the trial…
Interesting part one opening statements by Wells. Man, the WH really spreading the “love” for one another when the going gets tough. Libby throws Rove under the bus. And I thought Wells was going to belt out a tune from Billy Joel’s song: An Innocent Man in his opening statement. So, now Libby was a sacrificed lamb? Please.. And I am certainly paying close attention to the Sealed vs. Sealed. And I am sure that Rove’s henchman attorney, Luskin, is certainly not going to have his client, Rove, take the fall for Irve.
Redshift @ 155
Good job, Redshift.
Somehow, I’m reminded of one of my favorite lines from the old “Maverick” tv series.
“You can fool some the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, and those are pretty good odds.”
- but it doesn’t make it right, eh?
Frog march is full on..
any chance we will get to see or hear about the letter Fitz supposedly sent rove?
What about BarThe Nefarious Leslie @ 48
Richmond @ 35
They still have Barney!
“The Aspens are turning”…..
Last night on MSNBC’s Countdown Keith Olberman asked Richard Clarke about the use of intelligence by the Bush administration. Clarke answered “this administration does not base it’s actions on intelligence”turkish bill @ 148
Can their be more than one immunized witness?
Wurmser…Hannah…Rove…Fleisher.
How does one apply for immunization? Just by talking?
Libby rolls over Rove.
Libby to Rove “I wish I could quit you”
Be more neutral in your commentary. Your bias detracts from the picture. Don’t describe the Judge as Walton, use the Judge, or Hizhoner, because I’m sure the lawyers don’t say Walton this or Walton that. Describe how the lawyers/jurors/judge/witnesses appear – what overall impression do they give? what body language do you see among jurors and judge?
You describe Wells as overlooking things, mistating. How does he sound? Is he forceful? Are weak people likely to be persuaded by him, following a strong personality? What does the jury look like when Wells or Fitz is talking to them? Arm’s folded? Skeptical? Open? Focused on line of thought? Do they respond with laughter when either or both says something funny? When do they laugh harder?
Thanks.
Doppler
> a. A lot of the things that are being declared
> ‘right’ are also speculation. (Rove’s been
> immunized, Rove’s part of a sealed indictment.)
> I’ll wait for actual evidence, thank you.
The problem is that (1) much of the information will _never_ be unsealed or made public (2) there are master media spinners and pressuremeisters at work on the Libby/Cheney/Rove side.
I don’t think these threads are a good place for dark theories, but there are reasonable scenarios between “Leapold is a stone liar” and the other extreme.
Cranky
Terre @ 18
Would this not be a clear statement that just prior to his interview with the FBI Mr. Libby destroyed evidence regarding conversations about Wilson and Plame between members of the WH?
DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE!
In addition it seems that Wells has just provided an EXCELLENT motive for Libby to lie about NOT knowing about Plame’s association with the CIA…and all the meetings with fellow administration officials (including Cheney), asking for CIA documents, etc.
Libby didn’t want to be the exclusive “Scapegoat”…
If HE KNEW that ROVE was involved and he didn’t tell the Special Prosecutor then he acted to cover up knowledge of the crime and OBSTRUCTED the investigation.
Indeed, by going to Cheney, and telling Cheney that he didn’t want to be the patsy for ROVE…that indicates that he also obstructed Fitz and the FBI from knowing that CHENEY had knowledge of ROVES leak.
And if Cheney never mentioned Libby’s visit or the “note” of advice that was destroyed to investigators…yet additional cases of destruction of documents that were to be preserved regarding the investigation!!!
Is WELLS ACTUALLY A DEFENSE LAWYER???
Doppler @ 167
IIRC, I don’t believe the jury is in view of the cameras. The only insight on your questions may probably come from Christy, if she was able to see the jurors from her seat.
-S
Emptywheel, you absolutely rock. Your parentheticals are invaluable. Thanks so much, and keep it up!
Probably been said before by someone, but I think Fitz must have realized convicting Libby was enough to topple Bush/Cheney, so he pursued the slam-dunk. Maybe the trial date was scheduled with that in mind. After the elections and before the SOTU. Now the ball is out of the judiciary court, as it were, and Congress can wrap up impeachment in jig time without relying on the court to do the heavy lifting(at the court’s constitutional peril).
Wells: “Mr. Libby was not concerned about losing his job. He was concerned about being set up. He was concerned about being the SCAPEGOAT.
Mr. Libby said to the VP, “I think the WH, people are trying to set me up, people want me to be the SCAPEGOAT. people in the WH want me to protect Karl Rove.”
[I would think that the pretencious literary snob in this case would know the difference between a “sacrificial lamb” and a “scapegoat”. They are very different critters. One is pure and untainted by sin…the other is filled to the brim with sin…not innocent at all.]
Wells: “Cheney made notes of what Libby said. Notes show Libby telling VP that he was not involved in leak.
Cheney’s note: “Not going to protect one staffer and sacrifice the guy that was asked to stick his neck in the meat grinder because of the incompetence of others.”
How exactly does this note even come close to suggesting that Libby didn’t leak anything? If Libby was “the guy that was asked to stick his neck in the meat grinder” then it seems that he was tasked with undertaking an errand with great risk for Cheney and the President. It doesn’t suggest he was “innocent” simply that he was more adroit at not getting traced back to the WH/OVP (likely by using intermediaries and insisting on being identified as a “former House staffer”) than the “incompetants”.
Or perhaps the “incompetants” were simply not getting the “dirt” out effectively, and Libby was thus tasked to do so.
But in neither case does Cheney’s note suggest that Libby was Sgt. Schultz and “knew nothing”.
The origin of the scapegoat is the goat which was sent “to Azazel” on Yom Kippur. The selection of this goat was entirely by lot, and the high priest confessed all the sins of the Jews upon its head.
Scooter Libby will know this very well because accounts of the sacrificial service are given twice on Yom Kippur during the day. Even in Reform synagogues an account is given once.
Also in Judaism the “sacrificial lamb” does not have the same meaning. A lamb was sacrificed every weekday.
The idea is that because of Libby’s very important job, he did some grunt work dealing with the press and then forgot about it so he cannot be said to have lied about anything. But being the scapegoat for Karl Rove proves nothing one way or the other.
Haas and Davydenko in 5th set
Yawn