Comments on: Libby Liveblog: Fitzgerald’s Opening Statement http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:40:25 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: 4jkb4ia http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-471802 4jkb4ia Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:33:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-471802 <p>EvilDrPuma at 180</p> <p>:)</p> EvilDrPuma at 180

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]]> By: 4jkb4ia http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-471788 4jkb4ia Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:22:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-471788 <p>Emptywheel!</p> <p>Gorgeous blogging! Masterful opening statement! I am excited.</p> Emptywheel!

Gorgeous blogging! Masterful opening statement! I am excited.

]]> By: PDHblog » Scooter Libby’s trial: Live blog! http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-471033 PDHblog » Scooter Libby’s trial: Live blog! Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:50:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-471033 <p>[…] And the comments are pouring in, some quite good. The blog on Patrick Fitzgerald’s opening statement has already been called the “best blog ever,” and already there is speculation about forthcoming indictments of others– and there’s only been one lower-level witness so far. Some commenters are saying already that Libby has thrown Karl Rove under the bus. […]</p> […] And the comments are pouring in, some quite good. The blog on Patrick Fitzgerald’s opening statement has already been called the “best blog ever,” and already there is speculation about forthcoming indictments of others– and there’s only been one lower-level witness so far. Some commenters are saying already that Libby has thrown Karl Rove under the bus. […]

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-470260 cinnamonape Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:27:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-470260 <p>Regardez impeachment….we all should be aware that impeachments can not only be used to REMOVE an executive from office…but also to DENY the “emoulements” of office to that official even if they pre-emptively resign or their term ends.</p> <p>Thus Bush could still be impeached and convicted for “high crimes and misdemeanors” after his term ends…leaving him without the right to use the benefits of the office of a retired President. No retirement money or health benefits, no Secret Service agents, no use of the Presidential seal, no franking privelege, no office space, no funds to support a Presidential library, no powers to challenge declassification actions, etc.</p> <p>Seems perfectly reasonable if he is found guilty of involvement in these reprehensible acts.</p> <p>Bush would thus become the first President “convicted” (although not a “sitting President”) of impeachable crimes.</p> Regardez impeachment….we all should be aware that impeachments can not only be used to REMOVE an executive from office…but also to DENY the “emoulements” of office to that official even if they pre-emptively resign or their term ends.

Thus Bush could still be impeached and convicted for “high crimes and misdemeanors” after his term ends…leaving him without the right to use the benefits of the office of a retired President. No retirement money or health benefits, no Secret Service agents, no use of the Presidential seal, no franking privelege, no office space, no funds to support a Presidential library, no powers to challenge declassification actions, etc.

Seems perfectly reasonable if he is found guilty of involvement in these reprehensible acts.

Bush would thus become the first President “convicted” (although not a “sitting President”) of impeachable crimes.

]]> By: ROBERT DEININGER http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-470213 ROBERT DEININGER Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:03:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-470213 <p>THIS IS SO SIMPLE WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING SO MUCH…BUSH AND CHENEY LIED ABOUT ANY AND ALL THINGS TO GET US INTO IRAQ,THEN THEY THREATENED TO DESTROY ANYONE WHO DARED TO TELL THE TRUTH,WHEN THE THREAT DIDNT WORK,THEY ASSIGNED SOMEONE TO DESTROY THAT PERSON ,USING ANY METHOD THEY WANTED……THEY ORDERED THE PUTING……..NOW LETS IMPEACH,AND PUT BUSH AND CHENEY IN JAIL WHERE THEY BELONG…..OVER 1 AND 1/2 BILLION SEE BOTH AS TERRORISTS,CANT ALL BE WRONG</p> <p><em>[Mod Note; we don’t shout in the courtroom. Please do not use ALL CAPS in your comment. Thanks.]</em></p> THIS IS SO SIMPLE WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING SO MUCH…BUSH AND CHENEY LIED ABOUT ANY AND ALL THINGS TO GET US INTO IRAQ,THEN THEY THREATENED TO DESTROY ANYONE WHO DARED TO TELL THE TRUTH,WHEN THE THREAT DIDNT WORK,THEY ASSIGNED SOMEONE TO DESTROY THAT PERSON ,USING ANY METHOD THEY WANTED……THEY ORDERED THE PUTING……..NOW LETS IMPEACH,AND PUT BUSH AND CHENEY IN JAIL WHERE THEY BELONG…..OVER 1 AND 1/2 BILLION SEE BOTH AS TERRORISTS,CANT ALL BE WRONG

[Mod Note; we don’t shout in the courtroom. Please do not use ALL CAPS in your comment. Thanks.]

]]> By: kathleen http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469935 kathleen Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:56:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469935 <p>When Fitz announced the Libby indictment he said “Truth is the engine of our judicial system”. I think he believes this, I sure hope so!</p> When Fitz announced the Libby indictment he said “Truth is the engine of our judicial system”. I think he believes this, I sure hope so!

]]> By: kathleen http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469918 kathleen Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:48:27 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469918 <p>I have always thought Ari</p> I have always thought Ari

]]> By: GabrielOak http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469907 GabrielOak Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:42:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469907 <p>Let Fitz convict Libby on all counts. Then let’s hope Bush pardons him. It will create a firestorm the like of which has not been seen since the Saturday Night Massacre. Enter a couple of new high crimes and misdemeanors in the lexicon: (1) abuse of the pardon power and (2) intentional disclosure of intelligence secrets for political retribution. George W. Bush R.I.P.</p> Let Fitz convict Libby on all counts. Then let’s hope Bush pardons him. It will create a firestorm the like of which has not been seen since the Saturday Night Massacre. Enter a couple of new high crimes and misdemeanors in the lexicon: (1) abuse of the pardon power and (2) intentional disclosure of intelligence secrets for political retribution. George W. Bush R.I.P.

]]> By: kathleen http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469892 kathleen Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:37:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469892 <p>Invest<a href="#comment-469767"><em>Hoolia @ 229 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-469722"><em>Phoenix Woman @ 225 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-469643"><em>deandra @<br /> 219 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Brilliant reporting by ‘emptywheel’! Positively, brilliant. Libby is in it up to his eyeballs. <b>But even if convicted, Bush will pardon him.</b> This country is becoming more and more corrupt with Bush and the other neocons at the helm. When they start talking about a ‘new world order’ I start hearing <em>Deutschland Uber Allis </em>in my head. Scary.</p></blockquote> <p>Deandra, if Bush tries that, he immediately drops below 20% in the polls and the REPUBLICANS will start impeachment proceedings. They’re already bailing on his Iraq policy. It won’t take much more for them to turn on him like rats in a slumfire — they’ll need to if they want to have a prayer of surviving the 2008 electoral massacre.</p></blockquote> <p>But if he pardons him in December 2008, there’s naught to be done.</p></blockquote> InvestHoolia @ 229

Phoenix Woman @ 225

deandra @
219

Brilliant reporting by ‘emptywheel’! Positively, brilliant. Libby is in it up to his eyeballs. But even if convicted, Bush will pardon him. This country is becoming more and more corrupt with Bush and the other neocons at the helm. When they start talking about a ‘new world order’ I start hearing Deutschland Uber Allis in my head. Scary.

Deandra, if Bush tries that, he immediately drops below 20% in the polls and the REPUBLICANS will start impeachment proceedings. They’re already bailing on his Iraq policy. It won’t take much more for them to turn on him like rats in a slumfire — they’ll need to if they want to have a prayer of surviving the 2008 electoral massacre.

But if he pardons him in December 2008, there’s naught to be done.

]]> By: kathleen http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469884 kathleen Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:34:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comment-469884 <p>Fitz “Cheney told Libby that Plame worked at CIA and AGAINST THE SPREAD OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS”.</p> <p>Where is that report about the damage done to National Security by this outing? Was it ever finished or released?</p> Fitz “Cheney told Libby that Plame worked at CIA and AGAINST THE SPREAD OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS”.

Where is that report about the damage done to National Security by this outing? Was it ever finished or released?

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