That was easy.

TREX

Anyone notice the extreme lack of LiarMan?

How about the virtual blowjobs of Michelle Bachmann? The exuberant dame in the white dress?

She couldn’t get enough Bush on her hands. And autographs. Her hero! Barf!

Did you guys see that shitty speech?

Did you all see Tucker’s slam on McCain being slumped and out cold?

You tell us, TRex.

A classic!

TRex @ 2

Did you guys see that shitty speech?

Yeah, but that doesn’t mean the first three comments here will be on topic.

Yep… watched people yawn and nod off. Ohhh I am watching MSNBC and they are trashing Condi…. HOOO boy

The think that we need to look into is that suddenly neither Bush or Chaney have that facial droop that they have in the past… either the botox is working or the signs of stroke has been removed somehow…

TRex @ 3

Did you guys see that shitty speech?

The servers are still smokin’, TRex. The first thread burned through so hard and fast that the Mods shut it down and shooed everybody along to the Webb Response thread, and damned if it didn’t happen again.

TRex!

wishing you clean margins and happily unremarkable biopsy results – now and ever after!

The think that we need to look into is that suddenly neither Bush or Chaney have that facial droop that they have in the past… either the botox is working or the signs of stroke has been removed somehow…

Maybe the White House has a new Dr. Feelgood.

Watched Lord McCain (my so called Senator) who DID NOT clap when Bush was talking about Immigration. HE knows that his past stand has killed him with his old base in AZ. They are the Tancredo crowd and were calling him too liberal!

I must have missed the original reference to “switchgrass,” and thus I don’t get the switchgrass jokes. Can somebody fill me in?

Actually, he did get to Iraq — in fact, I thought for a minute there he was just going to re-do his whole speech from last week, like he was hoping that maybe this time people would like it. But he finally reigned himself in, and finished by asking America to give him a “Kristol” (this is a new term for not criticizing the president for a Friedman Unit).

“Onward to Iran!! KILL!! KILL KILL KILL KILL!!!”

That’s the chant from the Group Dubya bench.

btw…. TRex… thank you for getting the lesion looked at, for doing something about it and hope your recovery is swift and painless AND the pathology is benign… fingers crossed and lots of prayers going your way.

First and Last Bush speech I watch in its entirety. Just wanted to see if anyone would do anything outragious to shame the pResident. Dude has no internal shame. Ugh, I had to scrub my tv screen when it was over.

My wife, who hadn’t paid nearly as much attention to Webb as I have, is really pumped. “Why don’t they put him out there more often. He’s fantastic!”

I answer “Well, the leadership doesn’t view him as a real Democrat because he used to be a Republican. Not as bad to the leadership as being an ex-Green, but close.”

She states “But he sounds more like a Democrat than Obama or Hillary, or most of the Democrats they let on TV.”

nuff said.

Webb!!!!

I caught about 5 minutes on the C-span replay. as soon as he said Democrat[sic] majority I switched it off before my landlord billed me for a new window. there’s only so many times you can toss the TV through it before they catch on

Ed,
Did you tell her he was originally a Democrat? And why he switched, but then switched back?

TRex—no, I didn’t see that shitty speech. I swear to God my cable box died, so I couldn’t watch *anything* on TV tonight. Very brave—it died to save me from having to watch the SOTU, or even any of the analyses and responses. Tomorrow the cable company will send someone to give me a new cable box. Maybe by then I’ll be ready to watch that shitty speech in clips. But probably not, as that would violate the strict no-Republicans-talking rule we observe in this house, in preservation of our physical and mental health. My condolences to you for having watched it. Hope the itching stops soon and the biopsy comes back clear.

TRex @ 4

Did you guys see that shitty speech?

I was too busy jamming obsidian blades under my fingernails.

Avoided watching or listening to that jack*ss masquerading as POTUS, although spouse flipped between that moron’s whining rehash of the last 5 SOTU’s and ESPN.

Much more fun to read the live-blogged snark attack at FDL in sync with that hot-air-passing-for-intelligen-speech.

Wishing you nothing more than a missing benign mole, TRex.

neuro -

in last year’s episode, the Chimp allluded to switchgrass when talking about energy independence and alternative fuels – of course the center for alternative fuel research had had their funding cut by the Chimp his own self – funding was 60% restored in time for a visit from his Pro Simianess

TRex @ 10

The think that we need to look into is that suddenly neither Bush or Chaney have that facial droop that they have in the past… either the botox is working or the signs of stroke has been removed somehow…

Maybe the White House has a new Dr. Feelgood.

Is that why Laura didn’t stand up much?

the speech? I somehow managed to have NPR on the radio while clicking the refresh button in these here parts and making snarky [Bush alterego] comments.

Perhaps, just perhaps, I have thrown off — once and for all — that term once misapplied to me in these late night parts some time back. The term being “concern troll.”

Weird. And someone (egregious?) thought I was a member of the MSM in an earlier thread today. Ah well.

cbl @ 23

neuro -

in last year’s episode, the Chimp allluded to switchgrass when talking about energy independence and alternative fuels – of course the center for alternative fuel research had had their funding cut by the Chimp his own self – funding was 60% restored in time for a visit from his Pro Simianess

Tune in next year, when you’ll hear the President say . . .

Did Bush even mention the Gulf Coast or New Orleans once?????? NOLA is a new carribean nation cause it sure doesn’t feel like the USA.

Susan Kitchens @ 25

someone (egregious?) thought I was a member of the MSM in an earlier thread today. Ah well.

Christy said on the last thread that the same thing happened to her at the Libby trial today.

Mary McCurnin @ 28

Did Bush even mention the Gulf Coast or New Orleans once?????? NOLA is a new carribean nation cause it sure doesn’t feel like the USA.

yep. the state of our union is strong. The state of new orleans, well, not so much.

Thanks, cbl.

switchgrass – cellulosic ethanol

not a food crop, grows on marginal lands in ambient environment (prairie grass) so it doesn’t need a lot of chemicals and water – plus it supports animal habitat.

Win-win.

I thought the best part was when he said he would send the Congress a “balanced budget.”

That’ll be balanced on the backs of every poor, uninsured, sick, old and young person here and all around the world.

Yes, he likes him some balanced budget.

Oha, TRex – hope it’s benign – good for you for getting it taken care of.

As for the rest of your post – LOL, LOL, and 707.
You are too too funny.

bg -

we liked the “7 million new jobs created” – he failed to mention they were in India and China

Mary McCurnin @ 28

Did Bush even mention the Gulf Coast or New Orleans once??????

Nope.

NOLA is a new carribean nation cause it sure doesn’t feel like the USA.

The poorer side of NOLA was never a whole lot better than some of the Caribbean countries.
The one time I was there (I drove down with my thesis advisor for a conference), we got off at the “wrong” exit. I wasn’t so sure I wasn’t in Haiti then–and that was well before Katrina.

Peterr @ 29

Susan Kitchens @ 25

someone (egregious?) thought I was a member of the MSM in an earlier thread today. Ah well.

Christy said on the last thread that the same thing happened to her at the Libby trial today.

That is funny in a horrible way. “Am I the help?! I own the place!” I mean, I show up at FDL here and again. But, well, CHS is a fixture at FDL…

Oh!

You mean someone in the real F2F world thought she was a member of MSM. Oh!

;)

(all this “are you a commenter or MSM?” stuff is interesting in light of Pach’s excellent meta discussion about bloggers vs. MSM.)

bg @ 33

I thought the best part was when he said he would send the Congress a “balanced budget.”

That’ll be balanced on the backs of every poor, uninsured, sick, old and young person here and all around the world.

Yes, he likes him some balanced budget.

I bet he will exclude military spending from his definition of “balanced budget”

(from a lurker who decided to delurk a bit last thread…)

in response to TRex’s question, I skipped the SOTU. Instead, watched my DVD of “Office Space” for the umpteenth time. At least the droning, selfish prick leader’s speeches in “Office Space” were intentionally humorous….

I actually thought the administration did pretty well tonight. Cheney’s lips hardly moved at all.

TRex, your version with Nancy will be on SNL this week.

Ghost of Tom Joad @ 20

Ed,
Did you tell her he was originally a Democrat? And why he switched, but then switched back?

You can learn something every day. I didn’t know he had been a Dem early on. I first became aware of him when he wrote an article in 1980 or 1981 (can’t find it) for “The Proceedings of the U.S. Naval Institute,” a defense-oriented (duh!) monthly. The article, about how to counter what was then perceived as a strategic threat by new Soviet ship designs, was brilliant. I’ve tried to watch him ever since.

msauna @ 40

I actually thought the administration did pretty well tonight. Cheney’s lips hardly moved at all.

Did he drink a glass of water during the speech? I love that trick.

BWAHAHAHAH!

God, you know, I would give anything to see Nancy Pelosi lean forward and just smack him across the back of the head good and hard. Then she’d open her purse and give him a half stick of gum to keep him quiet until the end of the sermon like my grandma would.

You so funny, TRex!

Any body notice that Bush and Chaney both took a drink of water at the exact same time? Thought that was amazing, how could Chaney do that with Chaney’s hand up Bush’s …..

The SOTU rests entirely upon wood chips and switch grass. The preznit told me so.

Someone took several minutes to write that speech.

neurophius @ 36

bg @ 33

I thought the best part was when he said he would send the Congress a “balanced budget.”

That’ll be balanced on the backs of every poor, uninsured, sick, old and young person here and all around the world.

Yes, he likes him some balanced budget.

I bet he will exclude military spending from his definition of “balanced budget”

Now if he could just figure out how to exclude it from the national debt, owned by folks like our good friends in the People’s Republic of China.

TRex, I like your grandma.

Best closing TRex paragraph. ever. or at least close.

Yippee, I got satellite tv disconnected six months ago! Here at casa del Shark it’s all-DVD and chimp-free!

Peterr @ 46

neurophius @ 36

bg @ 33

I thought the best part was when he said he would send the Congress a “balanced budget.”

That’ll be balanced on the backs of every poor, uninsured, sick, old and young person here and all around the world.

Yes, he likes him some balanced budget.

I bet he will exclude military spending from his definition of “balanced budget”

Now if he could just figure out how to exclude it from the national debt, owned by folks like our good friends in the People’s Republic of China.

Naww. That’s hard work!!

Fortunately my tivo fried a couple of days ago. So I read the SOTU comments at full tilt boogie! It was actually quite fun.
Sounds like they placed Lieberman with the janitorial staff for tonights speech. I feel sorry for the janitors.

Peterr, I don’t know where in my admittedly quirky little brain I came up with Senator Dobb earlier today, lmao. Just relieved that little slip happened before Dodds thread. *whew*

Yay, Sharkbabe!!

Peterr @ 48

TRex, I like your grandma.

His mom’s pretty awesome too.

January 2006:

Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrids, and buying, selling, or patenting human embryos.

(TeeHee) Sorry, it just still makes me giggle. How can a president, even the worst one ever, top that?

Peterr @ 48

TRex, I like your grandma.

I think you two would have gotten along famously.

katymine @
45

Any body notice that Bush and Chaney both took a drink of water at the exact same time? Thought that was amazing, how could Chaney do that with Chaney’s hand up Bush’s …..

I wonder if their earphones were on the same frequency? “OK, good, now take a drink of water…”

marksb @ 54

January 2006:

Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrids, and buying, selling, or patenting human embryos.

(TeeHee) Sorry, it just still makes me giggle. How can a president, even the worst one ever, top that?

He didn’t want the competition, I guess.

Avoided watching or listening to that jack*ss masquerading as POTUS

Rayne,

got so caught up in the snark and then omg Webb, meant to include how we now handle this at chez cbl – turn the teevee vol. off and put on hip-hop, raw hip hop (Tupac is never a bad choice), especially good when Darth is speechifyin’ – sooner than later the two synch up and hilarity and non stressful viewing ensue

I can read tomorrow’s Peggy Noonan column already, “In a bold and sweeping change of direction, President Bush demonstrated his magnanimity toward the incoming Democrats by embracing a series of brave and groundbreaking environmental initiatives and frugal, pragmatic economic measures that are guaranteed to Restore Our Country to Greatness…”

good gawd TRex, that’s so money TBogg’s gonna start stalking you

Ed*ard Teller @ 51

Peterr @ 48

TRex, I like your grandma.

His mom’s pretty awesome too.

And his brother, too.

All hail the Family Rex!

Webb had the best Dem return I can remember. Direct, dignified and to the point. He should give H&O some lessons in plain speaking.

Good night and a great tomorrow to everyone!

Team FDL.

Did anyone else notice that the only time Cheney smiled was when W was talking about oil?

I don’t have anything snarky to add to the party, just wanted to take a moment to wish a peaceful night’s slumber to all who helped make this one of the most amazing days ever at the lake.

Liveblogging, monitor-hell, special guests, STFU and the influx of monster site traffic.

Great job, all. You deserve a good night’s sleep. Hope you get it.

Redshift @ 63

Did anyone else notice that the only time Cheney smiled was when W was talking about oil?

Yeah and what’s weird is none of us probably thought that was weird. We are seriously down the rabbit hole.

Peterr @ 27

Tune in next year, when you’ll hear the President say . . .

“I was kinda wondering what kind of reception I would get tonight, comin’ here, what with my impeachment hearing goin’ on in this same hollowed (sic) chamber during the daytime hours . . .”

john in california @
61

Webb had the best Dem return I can remember. Direct, dignified and to the point. He should give H&O some lessons in plain speaking.

Who was that loser that did it last year when we were all pulling for Murtha? I can’t even remember his name.

I went and watched it with my local Dems, and it was actually fun! (I couldn’t bear to watch any of his previous ones.) Balanced budget and restraining government spending got a big laugh from the whole room. Plenty of other bits got catcalls. And of course our man Webb got cheers and applause!

Susan Kitchens @
26

Perhaps, just perhaps, I have thrown off — once and for all — that term once misapplied to me in these late night parts some time back. The term being “concern troll.”

/blockquote>

Well, troll or not, you were pretty damn funny earlier on tonight.

Redshift @ 63

Did anyone else notice that the only time Cheney smiled was when W was talking about oil?

Yeah. Just before Bush said “oil” Cheney looked like he needed another nitro popper, but that word seemed to do a restorative trick for Deadeye…

TRex @ 67

john in california @
61

Webb had the best Dem return I can remember. Direct, dignified and to the point. He should give H&O some lessons in plain speaking.

Who was that loser that did it last year when we were all pulling for Murtha? I can’t even remember his name.

Was it Tim Kaine (sp?), gov. of Virginia? Or was that the previous year?

TRex @ 67

john in california @ 61

Webb had the best Dem return I can remember. Direct, dignified and to the point. He should give H&O some lessons in plain speaking.

Who was that loser that did it last year when we were all pulling for Murtha? I can’t even remember his name.

It was Tim Kaine, our governor. He’s not a bad guy, he was just the wrong choice for that job.

Wow, this place has been cranking tonight. Watched the whole thing (must be a record for me as I can’t stand the sight or sound of that pus bag for even a few seconds), but was fascinated watching the manueverings and reactions of the two parties.

Here’s my list of things that stuck in my head:

Dead Eye justs looks DEAD, no soul, no emotions of any kind. Pelosi looked strong and like a leader. I actually gave Bush a teensy bit of credit for allowing her a standing O (two even) before his speech.

Bush pandered to the Dems with the health care and energy talk, let’s see him follow up on it this time. He couldn’t say “Global Warming.” Where the hell is NOLA on your radar, Mr. President? Lastly, he has no clue about Iraq, that is crystal clear. He’s thrown his Hail Mary and even he has the look of someone who knows it isn’t going to work.

MSNBC was pretty brutal on Bush across the board. Nice to see.

Webb kicked major ass. Hit the two major points: economy and the war, and hit ‘em hard! 1 years pay for average worker = 1 day for CEO’s. “Mismanaged war…” “Predictable and predicted results…” What an ending. Fantastic response!!

Huckleberry Graham made a major “tell” in his interview with Tweety. He was saying that Bush did a good job, blah, blah, blah “the bigger question is…was anyone paying attention?” Says it all about the state of the WH right now.

Hillary actually called Bush out on the escalation saying she was ready to stand up when she heard the words to the effect of we won’t be sending more troops into harms way. That’s a very rough paraphrase, but it’s as forceful as I’ve heard the Great Triangulator talk on Iraq.

Obama seemed distracted, lots of “ummms” and “uhhhs.”

Let me just say again, GO Webb!

For no particular reason, cockney rhyming slang for wife:

Trouble and strife
Duchess of Fife
Bread knife
Bag for life

For husband (old man):
Pot and pan

I like this one for spouse:

Dangermouse

As for sex there’s

The bendy flex

or more distubingly:

The Oedipus Rex

And for girl there is

Twist and Twirl

While boys are

Rob Roys

As for Libby, today he faced Barnaby Rudge and if found clonakilty of his lemon lime, then it’s the rusty nail or ginger ale for him.

It was Tim Kaine, our governor. He’s not a bad guy, he was just the wrong choice for that job.

He made a dish sponge look charismatic.

Just read the post and need to return to read the comments. But I was struck by this off the cuff crap about private concerns assisting in our security around the world. I’m too damned tired to look up the quote, but it sounded a lot like more contractor abuse, and more play for pay privatized soldiers courtesy of KBR/Hell-a-bent-on.

I finished watching the streaming video of a lecture Douglas Adams gave on endangered species some years ago. His concluding remarks where he talked about the tragedy that, not only are humans doing major damage to the earth, but that we’re somehow convinced that this is how things are “meant to be” were pretty insightful. So I’ve written that up and posted it here.

For those who had the good fortune to miss it, here are the Top 10 Highlights of the 2007 Bush State of the Union:

1. The New Equation in Iraq: Fight All Muslims, Everywhere, All the Time
2. Balanced Budget Baloney
3. Health Care on Life Support
4. Border Disorder
5. No Private School Left Behind
6. Flipping on Energy Conservation
7. No Flopping on Global Warming
8. Black Allies in the Gallery, Not on the Floor
9. Use the Troops for cover
10. No Red Meat for Red Staters

For the details, see:
“The Top 10 State of the Union Highlights.”

Been a long day . . . see you all later!

Rrraahhhwwwrrrrr!! Chomp Chomp Chomp!!!

Best of luck with the biopsy, TRex. I had a couple of moles biopsied recently, and at least one of them has to be removed in the next month or two. That’ll make it number six or seven for me. It’s annoying, but better than the alternative.

Last time around, I bought a Utilikilt, ’cause I had two in locations that made it uncomfortable to wear regular clothes while they were healing. I’d always wanted one anyway.

TRex

Glad to hear you’re taking care of yourself big guy. Am channeling good thoughts your way and as always, rabidly anticipate your posts.

We (the Eden contingent)send good thoughts your way.

I’m actually glad i missed that speech today. Just got home from work about 3 hours ago. Wasnt even in the mood to deal with the Shrub nattering on in the background. I’ve have been calling bullshit every other word out of his mouth.

I’m in teh equivalent of musical bootcamp right now, with a day job included. So eventually i’ll reread that post eventually. For now? i go kerspla very soon.

TRex @
4

Did you guys see that shitty speech?

No. You watched it so I don’t have to :) Thanks, TRex!

Hope your molectomy turns out okay! I had one removed myself, years ago, and had some bad moments waiting for the results, but it was fine.

“God, you know, I would give anything to see Nancy Pelosi lean forward and just smack him across the back of the head good and hard. Then she’d open her purse and give him a half stick of gum to keep him quiet until the end of the sermon like my grandma would.

You know? This speech would be so much more fun if Pelosi sat back there talking non-stop on a pink Motorola RAZR™ while smoking cigarettes and doing her nails, pausing only to occasionally roll her eyes and check her watch.

I’m going to pretend that’s how it went.”

Very funny scenario, thanks for that …..

But that’s hardly how it went, is it?

Redshift @
80

Best of luck with the biopsy, TRex. I had a couple of moles biopsied recently, and at least one of them has to be removed in the next month or two. That’ll make it number six or seven for me. It’s annoying, but better than the alternative.

Last time around, I bought a Utilikilt, ’cause I had two in locations that made it uncomfortable to wear regular clothes while they were healing. I’d always wanted one anyway.

Oh dude, I’m getting one of those soon. Another big dude like me was wearing one at the coffee shop and they are cool! Its like the top of a good pair of denims with a kilt bottom. Comfy.

Wow, it took like a whole 20 minutes for him to get to 9-11…that’s gotta be a record.
I loved watching Pelosi over his shoulder giving him the stern “stop BSing us” look.
They showed a long shot of Lieberman looking particularly pissy — didn’t get none of that good Presidential loving I guess.
BTW, watching congresscritters run over to W for autographs was disturbing.
Man, Jim Webb was fantastic. He did not pussyfoot around the issues. I’ve become a huge fan of his.

SubwaySerenade @ 76

Just read the post and need to return to read the comments. But I was struck by this off the cuff crap about private concerns assisting in our security around the world. I’m too damned tired to look up the quote, but it sounded a lot like more contractor abuse, and more play for pay privatized soldiers courtesy of KBR/Hell-a-bent-on.

I’d nominate that for the switchgrass/human-animal-hybrid weirdass point of this year’s speech. Someone in our group called out “mercenaries!,” but it was hard to tell if he was talking about contractors, or if he meant some new kind of service where people who signed up wouldn’t be military reserves, but could still be yanked out of their lives and sent overseas (and I’m sure with no promise it won’t be to a war zone.)

Yeah, that’s gonna be popular with the kidz! I’m sure the Yellow Elephants will feel very patriotic as they urge everyone else to join.

Mark Halperin on Charlie Rose is bailing on Bush. When a wannabe conservative and sycophant like Halperin goes, then there really is almost nobody but Pickles and Barney left.

Man o man o man. Today sure has been one fast paced news day – all the Libby trial (I am so addicted to the FDL coverage that I’m ignoring all the other blogs – mine included), the SOTU (did the scared little boy even mention the words “state of the union is”?), Webb’s powerful rebuttal.

TRex, having had several moles removed (all benign thankfully), I can say the stinging will be much better tomorrow. Glad you got it taken care of and will keep my fingers and toes crossed for a benign report for you.

Man o man o man. And it is only Tuesday. This is gonna be one heck of a week around here. Glad to see the servers are holding up.

Oh, jeez, TRex, your post had me laughing so hard, my dogs woke up barking. Now the whole neighborhood is howling. I’ve got to learn to brace myself for Late Night.

Speaking of Bush’s SOTU speeches, how’s Laura doing with the Crips and Bloods??

Interesting little banter over at MSNBC with KO and Tweety teasing Scarborough calling him a former “Republic” Congressman….. woohoo first time I have heard someone FINALLY get the slam of the “Democrat Majority” that is Frank Luntz name to fame….. grrrr stop on any Dem that says it too!

Suzanne @ 89

…the SOTU (did the scared little boy even mention the words “state of the union is”?), Webb’s powerful rebuttal.

Yeah, he threw out his usual “the state of our union is strong,” literally the second or third sentence from the end. (I saw the Daily Show montage last night, so I knew that he’s said that in some form in every single one of his SOTU speeches.)

Oh, remember my comment last night about how Ms. Redshift wanted me to send Webb a suggestion to kick Lieberman in the nuts? Well, after Joe’s performance today, she realllly wishes he could’ve followed that suggestion.

I think I might want a Utilikilt of my own!

Although for a guy like me, that might be a little too swishy. You’ve got to be a whole lotta man to wear a kilt sexily.

Redshift @ 94

Oh, remember my comment last night about how Ms. Redshift wanted me to send Webb a suggestion to kick Lieberman in the nuts? Well, after Joe’s performance today, she realllly wishes he could’ve followed that suggestion.

Little bitch.

My contempt for him knows no bounds.

***!!!Rawrrr!!!*** ***Chomp! Chomp! Chomp!***

so.

Thank you! My salvaged reputation lies on the cruelty of reality based channeling Bush’s alter-ego. Oh, the irony!

Fern @
69

Susan Kitchens @
26

Perhaps, just perhaps, I have thrown off — once and for all — that term once misapplied to me in these late night parts some time back. The term being “concern troll.”

Well, troll or not, you were pretty damn funny earlier on tonight.

Good evening, Don Gato!! So glad you could come by.

What’s the latest on Spocko?

An article in the NYT entitled Iraq Parliament Finds a Quorum Hard to Come by Damien Cave reports something that Juan Cole has been noting for months that the Iraqi Parliament seldom meets because it doesn’t have a quorum because many of its members stay away and several live abroad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01…..r=homepage

I really, really, REALLY wish that I had went out to Seattle Drinking Liberally tonight, rather than stayed home and watched it. I finally made the Man change the channel, because I was going to throw something through the TV otherwise.

Balrog @ 3

Anyone notice the extreme lack of LiarMan?

CNN caught him in a shot applauding to something on domestic policy to which nobody in his part of the gallery was applauding. I think it was school choice.

katymine @
92

Interesting little banter over at MSNBC with KO and Tweety teasing Scarborough calling him a former “Republic” Congressman….. woohoo first time I have heard someone FINALLY get the slam of the “Democrat Majority” that is Frank Luntz name to fame….. grrrr stop on any Dem that says it too!

Republic?! I think that calling them the Publicans is so much better. Goes back to Sunday School days where the parables of Jesus are about the Pharisees and the Publicans — the not so good guys in the stories. (or publicans in the sense of the people who have houses that serve likker. Was that why Jesus was all down on them? hmmm, she says.. I’ll have another sip of this here Scotch.)

Boy, Republic President George W. Bush, the longer we know him, the less we like him.

-GSD

TRex @ 95

Although for a guy like me, that might be a little too swishy. You’ve got to be a whole lotta man to wear a kilt sexily.

Around here, they’re the norm, so I guess that I never think of them as swishy. ^_^ My husband got married in one.

Pube-lickins.

Oh yeah, Luck Funtz.

-GSD

TRex @ 104

Pube-lickins.

only if the lights are out and one thinks of G*d and Country.

TRex @ 96

Redshift @ 94

Oh, remember my comment last night about how Ms. Redshift wanted me to send Webb a suggestion to kick Lieberman in the nuts? Well, after Joe’s performance today, she realllly wishes he could’ve followed that suggestion.

Little bitch.

My contempt for him knows no bounds.

MY contempt for Joe Lieberman knows no bounds.

I want the Jeans cut Utilikilt. Its a conversation starter anywhere you wear it. And I have the Scots-Irish whiter shade of pale legs to pull off the kilt look. Plus I am a large male no one would dare call it a skirt to my face.

There is a vote on Webb’s speech on http://www.abcnews.com

Good God, Condi did her best Darth Vader impression ever tonight.

-GSD

DreamingCrow @ 105

TRex @ 95

Although for a guy like me, that might be a little too swishy. You’ve got to be a whole lotta man to wear a kilt sexily.

Around here, they’re the norm, so I guess that I never think of them as swishy. ^_^ My husband got married in one.

They make a $500 tuxedo cut Utilikilt. Its niiiice.

On Tuesday night, President Bush delivered his seventh State of the Union address.

How did Bush do?

Miserable. More empty rhetoric, more ramblings from an out-of-touch president. 847

Extremely well. I’m excited by his agenda and can’t wait to see it implemented. 386

Business as usual. I didn’t hear anything new or exciting in his speech. 233

Total Vote: 1,466

Not a scientific survey.

Webb speech:

“We trusted the judgment of our national leaders.”

Wow.

Also noticed the thing about a majority of the -military- no longer supporting the current policy.

New Orleans, economic fairness, destruction of our international prestige, love of country but trusting our leaders to value the lives of our military…powerful stuff.

And may I say how much I appreciate being able to “watch” both the trial and the SOTU rebuttal from Russia.

Tadzhik boy doing well after tetralogy.

Smooches to FDL.

Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 112

They make a $500 tuxedo cut Utilikilt. Its niiiice.

I’ve seen it in action and yeah it’s pretty awesome. ^_^ My husband got his mostly for every day wear and being a blacksmith on the side, so it’s just a Workman’s in black canvas.

neurophius @ 113

On Tuesday night, President Bush delivered his seventh State of the Union address.

How did Bush do?

Miserable. More empty rhetoric, more ramblings from an out-of-touch president. 847

Extremely well. I’m excited by his agenda and can’t wait to see it implemented. 386

Business as usual. I didn’t hear anything new or exciting in his speech. 233

Total Vote: 1,466

Not a scientific survey.

I think Barney voted multiple times, Bush probably did too.

Whose poll is that?

neurophius @ 113

Not a scientific survey.

Actually, Utilikilts are far too trendy in Seattle now. My husband has gotten props from company employees more than once because his actually looks worn and used. :p

!Spocko apparently has a story coming out een USA Today, een the next day or so! I weel keep joo apprised.

Mike Stark did an admirable job against the grumpy, passive agressive stolidity of Dan “Bizarro” Riehl and Howie “the ‘ho” Kurtz on Sunday, Crooks and liars has the vid, and eet ees on JouTube as well.

Howie can beso mi culo.

there are probably more stories and more Joutube goodness to come een the next few weeks

We need to continue to focus our efforts on KSFO advertisers, eef anyone here has written to a KSFO advertiser, emai me and I weel post jour letter, eef joo weesh on my leetle blog.

gatobloggerro “at” yahoo “dot” com

Let us hear from joo, eh?

so.

neurophius @ 112

On Tuesday night, President Bush delivered his seventh State of the Union address.

How did Bush do?

Miserable. More empty rhetoric, more ramblings from an out-of-touch president. 847

Extremely well. I’m excited by his agenda and can’t wait to see it implemented. 386

Business as usual. I didn’t hear anything new or exciting in his speech. 233

Total Vote: 1,466

Not a scientific survey.

So now we know where Jenna and not-jenna were tonight..

Blub @ 117

Whose poll is that?

neurophius @ 113

Not a scientific survey.

There is a vote on Webb’s speech on http://www.abcnews.com

Paul Rieckoff at the HuffPo has a short piece where he points out that despite Bush’s call to support the troops there was no mention in the SOTU of the 1.6 million veterans which that war has produced nor of the care that they need.

Susan Kitchens @ 26

the speech? I somehow managed to have NPR on the radio while clicking the refresh button in these here parts and making snarky [Bush alterego] comments.

Perhaps, just perhaps, I have thrown off — once and for all — that term once misapplied to me in these late night parts some time back. The term being “concern troll.”

Weird. And someone (egregious?) thought I was a member of the MSM in an earlier thread today. Ah well.

Not me. I was sleeping at that hour.
Am in Russia.

hehe.. O’reilly’s the “Memo” appears to have stopped citing JAR polls. Tonight, instead, they cited some Gallup poll that said 86% of Americans are happy with their own lives and 51% are happy with the economy as a more accurate indication (before “far left” spin) of how Americans feel about our president.

marksb @
56

katymine @
45

Any body notice that Bush and Chaney both took a drink of water at the exact same time? Thought that was amazing, how could Chaney do that with Chaney’s hand up Bush’s …..

I wonder if their earphones were on the same frequency? “OK, good, now take a drink of water…”

Bush pilot

Since my name is in the conversation, could one of you give me a mini summary of this discussion of ‘MSM vs commenter’? I’m confused. Just woke up for the day. Need coffee.

Blub @ 124

hehe.. O’reilly’s the “Memo” appears to have stopped citing JAR polls. Tonight, instead, they cited some Gallup poll that said 86% of Americans are happy with their own lives and 51% are happy with the economy as a more accurate indication (before “far left” spin) of how Americans feel about our president.

Those stats just mean most Americans have figured out how to maintain happiness despite Bush. And we’re split about the health of our economy.

egregious @ 114..”Tadzhik boy doing well after tetralogy.” OT but that reminded me of operating on kids in Morocco 25 years ago..man those kids were tough.

NYT pans the SOTU

Instead, he offered up a tepid menu of ideas that would change little: a health insurance notion that would make only a tiny dent in a huge problem. More promises about cutting oil consumption with barely a word about global warming. And the same lip service about immigration reform on which he has failed to deliver.

(stuffing cup of coffee into dial-up modem with hopes it will still be hot when it gets to eg in russia)

I would give anything to see Nancy Pelosi lean forward and just smack him across the back of the head good and hard.

Perfect!

After an exhausting, wonderful day trying to work while following the Libby trial on FDL, I caught part of the STFU. Kept watching Cheney. Does the man ever blink? And what’s with Lynn Cheney’s linebacker shoulder pads? And how come that Cheney kidlet gets an Op-Ed in the WaPo? Or the NYT, or wherever I didn’t read it.

Laura looked drugged. Bush was, when I could bear to look at him, well rehearsed. Happily, just when he got to his Fear and Terrists bit, I had to leave for a rehearsal of the Bach B Minor Mass. Like coming out of a cesspool into clear, bright air.

Stay healthy, T-Rex. We can’t do without you.

GSD @ 111

Good God, Condi did her best Darth Vader impression ever tonight.

-GSD

Condi looked like she was taking a growler.

Hi, Egregious! Dobroe utro – i spokoynoy nochi–I’m off to bed. Wish you another day of good results. We’ve been having a really good time here tonight. Be sure to read CHS’s description of today’s Libby trial episode. Lots of good stuff goin’ on.

Hey I just watched Christy and EW’s re-cap over at Crooks and Liars.

Sweet !! And the cross-networking is happening.

Hence my level of total informative groovalisciousness.

Don’t steal that.

You know? This speech would be so much more fun if Pelosi sat back there talking non-stop on a pink Motorola RAZR™ while smoking cigarettes and doing her nails, pausing only to occasionally roll her eyes and check her watch.

pure gold, TRex

NYT
“Say what you will about the flaws and shortcomings of the two-party system. After six years of the Bush presidency, at least we know it’s a lot better than the one-party system.”

Ouch. ‘course this is the same editorial page that called shrub a criminal two weeks ago and incompetent a week ago, both in, as many words… can an impeachment editorial be far away?

UptownNYChick @ 129

NYT pans the SOTU

No one would DARE steal your “groovalisciousness” Tim.

You wear it so well!

“You know? This speech would be so much more fun if Pelosi sat back there talking non-stop on a pink Motorola RAZR™ while smoking cigarettes and doing her nails, pausing only to occasionally roll her eyes and check her watch.”

You know? This is why I love FDL. Brilliant, TRex, simply fucking brillant.

NYT

Officer Who Epitomized Ills of Ground Zero Workers Dies
New York Times – 18 minutes ago
By SEWELL CHAN. A former New York City police officer died of a lung disease last night, hours before his son attended the State of the Union address to draw attention to the plight of 9/11 rescue workers like him who became ill after they were exposed …

I have nothing to say.

I couldn’t keep me eyes off Pelosi – what an improvement over that gooey piece of shit, Denny “I’ll Wrestle First and Then Eat Your Babies” Hastert

Blank Kludge @ 137

NYT

Officer Who Epitomized Ills of Ground Zero Workers Dies
New York Times – 18 minutes ago
By SEWELL CHAN. A former New York City police officer died of a lung disease last night, hours before his son attended the State of the Union address to draw attention to the plight of 9/11 rescue workers like him who became ill after they were exposed …

fuck

I “wocked” the speech. This means Jimmy came over and we watched/mocked American Idol followed by the speech. We wocked both events.

Suzanne @ 130

(stuffing cup of coffee into dial-up modem with hopes it will still be hot when it gets to eg in russia)

Aaaaahhhh.

Bless you my child.

TRex, I’ve had moles taken off, some with funny tissue. No biggie. It’s the cost of being a hot-head red-head.

Kilt stuff: I wear mine often. Of course as a female it doesn’t draw as much comment :)

Interesting pick-up by John at Americablog. There was nothing in the SOTU for the christianist wacko crowd. No gays, no abortion, no Librul judges. Dobson must be shit to be tied.

Suzanne -

Yep.
—

katymine @
15

btw…. TRex… thank you for getting the lesion looked at, for doing something about it and hope your recovery is swift and painless AND the pathology is benign… fingers crossed and lots of prayers going your way.

yes. good thing you got rid of that Foreign Lesion. that wasn’t Sahara’d, now, was it?

non sequitur that proves Rahm Emanuel is a tool –

Chris Matthews: The president talks about tax cuts for people to pay for insurance. It seems like if the government is going to give away revenue so that insurance companies can insure people, why doesn’t the government just insure those people? It seems like instead of spending money on health care, you’re spending a lot more money on insurance companies.

Rahm Emanuel: Well, as you know Chris, blah blah blah insure kids, blah blah

Never said a thing about the point that health insurance is not health care.

Blank Kludge @ 145

Suzanne -

Yep.
—

Re the 9/11 guy that just died of cancer—

And they want to call Dems the party of death? Hm.

This satire comes pretty close
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NqE_baKKkRI

Watch Pelosi on the upper right…

mc @ 138

“You know? This speech would be so much more fun if Pelosi sat back there talking non-stop on a pink Motorola RAZR™ while smoking cigarettes and doing her nails, pausing only to occasionally roll her eyes and check her watch.”

You know? This is why I love FDL. Brilliant, TRex, simply fucking brillant.

pluck tweety

“How’s that Mars Mission coming, Gomer? Are you going to run the big rocket ships on switchgrass?”

Late to the party, delurking to say how much I luuurv TRex. You bring joy to my twisted soul.

bush has killed more Americans than 9/11 did. How many other public safety personnel, the first responders we all depend on, are going to die because bush and his EPA beyotch told them the air was safe at Ground Zero?

wtlloyd @
32

switchgrass – cellulosic ethanol

not a food crop, grows on marginal lands in ambient environment (prairie grass) so it doesn’t need a lot of chemicals and water – plus it supports animal habitat.

Win-win.

alternately, th coke binge is over and W has to switch: grass

Looks as if everyone decided to play nice tonight- even Clusterfuck was tolerable in manner- although his “ideas” still stink..Non event I suppose.

alternately, th coke binge is over and W has to switch: grass

nah, otherwise he would be saying make love, not war

Suzanne @
89

Man o man o man. Today sure has been one fast paced news day – all the Libby trial (I am so addicted to the FDL coverage that I’m ignoring all the other blogs – mine included)…

wait a minute. there are other blogs?

How did Webb do?

Very well. His remarks were smart and fair, and I agree with the Democrats’ agenda .
1,116
Poorly. More directionless, partisan barbs from the Democratic party.
384
Okay. He was fine, but he didn’t win me over.
139
Total Vote: 1,639
Not a scientific survey.

as of the few minutes ago I was there…and catching up here.
—-
Loved Webb’s close:
“IF he doesn’t we’ll show him the way.”
that could be as in ‘how it’s done.’

or

“..we’ll show him the way [to the door.]”
–
SOTU in 2 Parts:
1) Smiling, bipartite agenda. Warmed over.
2) Preview horrorshow ultraviolence.

Stats from around Snow
People tune out after 20 min.
Did they watch the whole thing?
I want polling. NOW.

Traitor Joe today:
http://www.connpost.com/localnews/ci_5072482

The Connecticut senator urged colleagues to give Petraeus and the 160,000 American soldiers he will be commanding a chance to succeed.

I happened to visit a neighbor w/cable. This part was the 2 min I saw.

There’s something off w/that number. I heard CT-I use it in a query, and jumped off the couch to computer here.

Is it high?

Blank Kludge @ 158

Traitor Joe today:
http://www.connpost.com/localnews/ci_5072482

The Connecticut senator urged colleagues to give Petraeus and the 160,000 American soldiers he will be commanding a chance to succeed.

I happened to visit a neighbor w/cable. This part was the 2 min I saw.

There’s something off w/that number. I heard CT-I use it in a query, and jumped off the couch to computer here.

Is it high?

Latest numbers before the surge had 140k soldiers there, so 20k for the escalation included makes sense.

Anyone seen timewarp around lately?

I thought of her – Patti Smith got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!

Okay, gang. Got to chatting with my mom. Now, it’s bedtime. Good night. See you tomorrow night.

salon.com:

Why Democrats can stop the war

Pundits say if the party gets too tough with Bush, it will be blamed for “losing” Iraq. But the real political risk is going too easy on Bush, and losing the trust of war-weary voters.

By Rick Perlstein

…
The questions are not just: Can Congress stop the surge? Can Congress stop a war-mongering president in his tracks? The better question is what are the things Congress can accomplish just by trying to stop the escalation, boldly, and without apology?

The answer to that is: an enormous amount — and that the only thing that can guarantee Democratic political weakness in 2008 is if they abandon a strong withdrawal (or, if you prefer, “redeployment”) position.
…

hasta manana, TRex. still chuckling over that last paragraph….

Fini -

Thanks for the number crucnch. Noted.
But, I maintain it is high. Period.

—
oh. MSNBC headline for Balz’s analyis piece:

A president beleaguered but unbowed
Bush’s speech anything but defensive

The ‘B’ word.

good luck with the biopsy, TRex. i’ve been dealing with skin cancer for six years. it’s doable if you listen to the dermo.

pun, I hope Pelosi, Reid, et al., are reading Rick Perlstein.

Okay, one last chuckle.

What TRex-es do when they’re running late.

ABout that double drink of water: Bush started to reach for his glass to sip, Cheney noted it, and upstaged it quickly with his own drink so eyes would be distracted to him, not have the whole nation watch Bush pause for water. An acting trick.

TRex -

Best Wishes on the medical front.

and as always, to Lady Hamsher.

Off now.

Fixin for a early AM Fitzin’!

Pleasant dreams folks.

How would you like the title Presidential Acting Coach? That person must feel like shit.

The best part of the SOTU was the Democratic response by Senator Webb. And, watching the Faux Newz kids look all perplexed when Webb finished. Fred Barnes was quite flustered at all the facts being told to their viewers, and everyone else at the anchor desk either looked down or fidgeted with some papers. They were very, very, quiet.

“If Webb’s going to make claims like the majority of the military doesn’t support the war in Iraq anymore, he’s gonna have to provide some evidence of that!” It’s called Military Times, biotch.

I have an early day tomorrow, so good night, Firepups.

Trex, I hope your test results are all good and you stay in as good a shape as Ned TFK. ;) (How is Ned, btw? You haven’t mentioned him recently.)

Jane, if you’re reading this, go to bed! Get your rest while you can. Once you get to DC, you’ll be going nonstop.

TheOtherWA @ 171

The best part of the SOTU was the Democratic response by Senator Webb. And, watching the Faux Newz kids look all perplexed when Webb finished. Fred Barnes was quite flustered at all the facts being told to their viewers, and everyone else at the anchor desk either looked down or fidgeted with some papers. They were very, very, quiet.

“If Webb’s going to make claims like the majority of the military doesn’t support the war in Iraq anymore, he’s gonna have to provide some evidence of that!” It’s called Military Times, biotch.

Webb did very well. He was forceful but reasonable, logical and passionate. He radiated patriotism without resorting to flag waving. He showed Faux Nooze viewers what real Americans look and sound like. What would Woody Allen have to say after a speech by John Wayne?

from a letter responding to Rick Perlstein’s salon.com piece:

…there is…a possible galvinizing force still lingering in the air like smoke after a bomb has gone off, that bomb being the remarkable speech given by Senator Jim Webb in response to the President’s “timid” (commentator’s word) address. Bush’s was a rather weak speach, lacking the usual arrogance and self-assuredness and with some very carefully-weighed words, but the one issue everyone really came to hear about was Iraq, and on that one, although the President employed a much softer delivery, his words were numbingly the same.

In contrast, Webb’s speech was clearly barely restrained rage and, as Katie Couric observed after, “He really tore into the President.” It may just be me, but I seemed to pick up a sense of awe in those words, a look in Couric’s eyes that I haven’t seen often.

The Webb moment may be the inspiration the New Majority needs to stand and be counted. It also clearly impressed the talking heads. ..

Pun @174 – I said this in an earlier thread but Sen Webb’s speech with its facts, passion and barely concealed rage may actually turn some of dems into vertebrates. Evolution in action.

Re: kilts–
My son, a college freshman, bought a black kilt and wore it with a dress shirt and black tie when he was playing as a guest in the orchestra at a local high school. I was working the ticket booth and I enjoyed hearing the remarks from the young women his age comment on his appearance, but it was really disconcerting to hear women my age (who didn’t know me) talking about his knees, legs, etc! Yikes! Most of the time I didn’t reply to the “Ooh, he’s cute” comments, but I finally embarrassed one who was getting a little too gushy by responding, “Yes, his father and I both think he’s just adorable.”

(Snarky, I know, but if a 50-year old guy was talking about a 19-year old daughter of mine, I would have said it sooner.)

petedownunder @ 175

Pun @174 – I said this in an earlier thread but Sen Webb’s speech with its facts, passion and barely concealed rage may actually turn some of dems into vertebrates. Evolution in action.

Webb’s a keeper. He may not be on the progressive edge of a lot of the issues, but he speaks with a moral authority that resonates.

Blub @ 10:32 pm,

Too funny! I’m forcing meself to watch the rerun of the STFU on MSNBC and clicked on your link for “State of the Union 2007 – Bush Impression”.

Thank you for making it so bearable, the YouTube showed “Condi” just as the TV in perfect unison showed Condi… I was rollin’ off my chair. *wipes tears* Heh

mutzali @
176

(Snarky, I know, but if a 50-year old guy was talking about a 19-year old daughter of mine, I would have said it sooner.)

this father of a 13 y.o. girl braces himself for such situations…

hey, Shez! just like old times…

More than 120,000 site visits in one day.

You go FDL!!

Healing love to Jane,

Major kudos to Christy!

via Kevin Drum:

MORE LIBBY….Hoisted from comments, this is from a reader who says he’s practiced law in the areas of criminal defense and governmental misconduct/civil rights for twenty years. Here’s what he wrote about prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s opening statement:

I know, and have friends who know, people that both work in Fitzgerald’s office in Illinois and that have tried cases against Fitzgerald. The book on him (and this is not new, I just want to reaffirm it) is that he is meticulous, reserved and that he NEVER makes claims in opening statements that he cannot absolutely prove up to a jury.

….Given the statements and allegations Fitzgerald has made in his opening statement, and given his reputation for always backing up his statements, if I were Cheney’s attorney, I would absolutely find some way, somehow, whatever it took, to keep him off the stand. It is crystal clear that Fitzgerald is convinced, and I mean strongly convinced, that this whole imbroglio is Cheney’s personal doing….Don’t get me wrong, I would be prepping him to testify, and stating to the world that he looked forward to it; but I guarantee that I would simultaneously be working day and night to find a way to keep him off the stand and away from the trial.

punaise @
180

hey, Shez! just like old times…

Shez! It is like old times here.

egregious @ 181

More than 120,000 site visits in one day.

You go FDL!!

Healing love to Jane,

Major kudos to Christy!

I hear the hits are coming from as far away as Russia….

:)

punaise @ 184

egregious @ 181

More than 120,000 site visits in one day.

You go FDL!!

Healing love to Jane,

Major kudos to Christy!

I hear the hits are coming from as far away as Russia….

Not to mention major hits from the land downunder. My problem is that all the really cool Fitzing happens while I’m asleep. Oh well, I’ll sleep on the weekend.

Completely OT (if that’s possible on Late Night) I saw this on Raw. While I don’t doubt the facts (that HRC’s staff is ignoring the Ed Schultz Show), I don’t think Ed Schultz does himself any favors with his whiney complaints. She’s just not into you, get over it.

Anybody else awake?

petedownunder @ 188

Anybody else awake?

I am. Sorta.

petedownunder @ 188

Anybody else awake?

here’s my stop, gotta get off.

Hi Fini. Quite a day at FDL. This is an amazing community with amazing folks providing info available nowhere else. It sounds like you need to get some sleep, and I need to fix dinner. G’night.

Night, pun.

TRex, good luck with the pathology and healing and all!

You should absolutely get yourself a utilikilt. DreamingCrow is right–they are all the rage here in Seattle, to the extent that they’re unremarkable on men and women are starting to wear them too. Most of my male friends have at least one, and some of them wear kilts so often that people are shocked if they wear pants!

*waves to DreamingCrow*

Smootches for punaise! Today has been jaw droppingly stellar hasn’t it, the air crackling with something akin to Fitz’ first presser and election day put together, or to sex it up: it doesn’t get boring it gets better!

Thankfully out of the blue my daughter kept the grandson home today so I had the time & toobz all free and clear to soak up every minute of the Fabulous FDL coverage.

Hugs for {{{{{{ egregious }}}}}}}

Happily, just when he got to his Fear and Terrists bit, I had to leave for a rehearsal of the Bach B Minor Mass.

Yes, truly His eye is on the sparrow …;)

Thank you Shez. Much needed.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/c…..ead=97359.

…CCC CAMPS … WORKER CIVILIAN LABOR FORCE OF THE 1930s?

23 January 2007

In Response To: PARDON ME, BUT WHAT THE #$%&! IS THIS: “CIVILIAN RESERVE CORPS”???

I am wondering if President Bush’s reference in tonight’s address when he said:

*** “A second task we can take on together is to design and establish a volunteer Civilian Reserve Corps. Such a corps would function much like our military reserve. It would ease the burden on the Armed Forces by allowing us to hire civilians with critical skills to serve on missions abroad when America needs them. And it would give people across America who do not wear the uniform a chance to serve in the defining struggle of our time.”

could possibly have been a reference to implementing something like the CCC labor camps of the 1930s. My grandfather used to mentioned these labor camps when I was a girl.

The CCC was run by the Army. And, I think these laborers may have received lower wages than the military personnel of that day.

There were hundreds of camps set up around the country to enlist the work efforts of people ‘after the great depression.’ The men living in these camps were provided food and minimal lodging after a hard days work. And, the man telling his story (in the article linked below) said he was allowed to keep $5 a month, and he had to send the other $10 home to his family.

The ‘Civilian Conservation Corps’ was designed and implemented by Franklin D. Roosevelt as part of the New Deal.

I am not saying this is what President Bush has in mind for the American people, however, the term …’Civilian Reserve Corps’ sounds very similar to the worker labor program of the 1930s.

*****

CCC, Civilian Conservation Corps

Written by Bill Ganzel of the Ganzel Group.

It’s ironic that the first “C” in the CCC refers to the “Civilian” Conservation Corps because the program was actually run by the U.S. Army. The CCC was a public works program that put more than three million young men and adults to work building roads and trails in parks, building conservation dams, building campgrounds, planting trees, draining swamps, replanting grazing land, renovating historic buildings and stringing telephone lines.

At most camps, the days were long and hard. But in the evening, there was time for games, education classes, and even plays and variety shows put on by the enrollees. Most of those who adjusted to the military discipline re-enlisted when their six months was up. The men could stay in the CCC up to two years.

……

read article here:

http://www.livinghistoryfarm.o…..er_12.html .

..READER: PREPARE FOR THE DRAFT – This is the incident to reactivate it!

http://www.rumormillnews.com/c…..read=98481

Blank Kludge >

…A former New York City police officer died of a lung disease last night, hours before…

St. Peter will have an honor guard waiting at the gates

“Once you go through something you think will kill you and it doesn’t, every day is like a present.” – Elissa B. Terris

TRex @
167

Okay, one last chuckle.

What TRex-es do when they’re running late.

Cu-ute!8)

Waving g’nite to and a big woo hoo to all – near, far and wide throughout the FDR universe. Heck of a job and what a pleasure to be spending Fitzmas week in this oh so special sphere of da toobs!

T-Rex, eef joo are yet awake, buena suerte on jour exam, and joo have mail.

Spocko Saga makes USA Today

2nd page of print edition too.

(snip)Hundreds of blogs are exhorting national advertisers not to buy commercial time on Disney-owned KSFO-AM in San Francisco because some on-air hosts have made comments that the bloggers allege are racist or encourage violence.

KSFO personalities say the bloggers are trying to muzzle their political views. The bloggers say they’re rallying behind the free-speech rights of a colleague whose website was briefly shut down after Disney’s ABC network threatened to sue over alleged copyright violations.

Vamanos, go read the whole theeng, I found eet a fair appraisal, overall.

…y tambien, they give Mike Stark the last word!

Shhhhhhhh… joo can almost hear the weengnut cabezas go Booooom.

so.

…I liked your last comment about pretending
how it went regarding Speaker Pelosi…:-)
…the SOTU should come with banner stream at
bottom that would tally number of Outright Lies,
Hollow Drivel,DC Crowd Pandering and
a tracking number on Cut More Taxes/Yet Spend
More Taxpayer Provided Money Bullshit-O-Meter.
This banner stream would fit in nicely with
your pretending how it went idea…:-)

Spocko Saga makes USA Today

LOS ANGELES — In a dispute between the “new media” of the Internet and the “old media” of broadcasting, liberal bloggers and conservative talk-radio hosts are accusing each other of trampling the First Amendment’s guarantees of free speech.

Hundreds of blogs are exhorting national advertisers not to buy commercial time on Disney-owned KSFO-AM in San Francisco because some on-air hosts have made comments that the bloggers allege are racist or encourage violence.

KSFO personalities say the bloggers are trying to muzzle their political views. The bloggers say they’re rallying behind the free-speech rights of a colleague whose website was briefly shut down after Disney’s ABC network threatened to sue over alleged copyright violations.

Vamanos, go read the whole theeng, I found eet a fair appraisal, overall.

so.

You guys actually watched that? I didn’t. I couldn’t give two shits from a diseased rat’s ass what Bush has to say. He’s jacked Iraq and he’s jacking America. The man has lost any rights to give his opinion about anything by his failures.

Forgot…

May all your biopsies be negative and may the sun shine on you all your days, FDL. It does get better. Trust me.

God, you know, I would give anything to see Nancy Pelosi lean forward and just smack him across the back of the head good and hard.

Amen!

Sean, I didn’t watch it to see suffer Bush, (yes a waste of valuable time) I watched it to see Madame Speaker Pelosi -soon to be President Pelosi after today’s court revelations- make further history, observe the audience reactions, and mostly to catch Webb’s followup response that I missed in real time from literally falling asleep at the end of the original SOTU snoozefest sucker.

Bush I automatically tuned out and ignored both times, he’s utterly useless. No wonder I nodded off earlier.

Greg Palast’s newsletter on Bush’s SOTU starts out:

There was that tongue again. When the President lies he’s got this weird nervous tick: He sticks the tip of his tongue out between his lips. Like a little boy who knows he’s fibbing. Like a snake licking a rat.

In his State of the Union tonight the President did his tongue thing 124 times — my kids kept count.

Hugh @
74

For no particular reason, cockney rhyming slang for wife:

Trouble and strife
Duchess of Fife
Bread knife
Bag for life

As for Libby, today he faced Barnaby Rudge and if found clonakilty of his lemon lime, then it’s the rusty nail or ginger ale for him.

Let’s not forget–given that it’s late night–the rhyming slang “china plate,” for your “mate.” Because china’s something valuable. :)

Good Morning, Firepups,

Cold and clear here in central Jersey, with much colder weather on the way late in the week.

Many thanks to the brave souls who watched the SOTU speech. I cannot abide listening to the Deciderer. And the Bush-Cheney cabal makes me ashamed of my country.

I had more fun watching the video clip of FDL’s own Christy and Marcy Wheeler summing up the opening statements of the Libby trial. I am proud of my country when I see them, and listen to them describe the work done by Patrick Fitzgerald and his team. For far too long, Fitz was the only part of the government carrying out oversight of the administration. The rubberstamp Republican Congress was only capable of asking “please, sir, may I have another!”

I’m ready to pour coffee. Who needs a cup?

Oh, thanks nj progressive. I’m cranky from lack of sleep. {Holding out cup in trembling hand.}

This morning the NYT Times has Thomas Friedman wondering why the Sunnis and Shia don’t settle their differences like Christians, and then there’s Maureen Dowd who needs to learn what “boink” means. (See, I said I was cranky …)

http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/

That coffee helped, though. Thanks again njprogressive!

Listening to Webb’s excellent response replayed on CSPAN this morning. I dreamed about him all night long, y’all! And, no, it wasn’t those kinda dreams, now!

Marion in Savannah @ 210

Oh, thanks nj progressive. I’m cranky from lack of sleep. {Holding out cup in trembling hand.}

This morning the NYT Times has Thomas Friedman wondering why the Sunnis and Shia don’t settle their differences like Christians, and then there’s Maureen Dowd who needs to learn what “boink” means. (See, I said I was cranky …)

http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/

That coffee helped, though. Thanks again njprogressive!

Thanks, Marion.

Friedman actually said one sensible thing:

If Iraq is ultimately unraveled by Muslim suicide-nihilism, it certainly will be a blot on our history — we opened this Pandora’s box.

re CCC (share @ 197):

The US Army did fantastic work administering this program, which gave its officers & bureaucracy the mobilization/organization skills that became essential in ‘40/’41. But the Corps was not a ‘military’ organization, nor did it advance a ‘militarist’ political agenda. It provided pay and nutrition/healthcare to many thousands of young men, alleviating their poverty & replacing their hopelessness w/ a sense of belonging to & working together towards a better society for all.

During the depression era, many nations (including the fascist / nationalist governments of Germany & Italy) had similar programs to mobilize unemployed youth & stimulate the economies.

Colonel George C. Marshall (future Army Chief of Staff, future SecState, my personal candidate for ‘greatest American ever’) was a CCC camp instructor/administrator.

ooh, replaying SOTU: “epic battle” , “contagion of violence” , “nightmare scenario” , “chaos is their greatest ally in this struggle” . . . “greater determination to harm America” and . . . wait fer it! 911!!

BADDABING!

Juan Cole eviscerates Bush over his SOTU remarks addressing war and the Middle East.

I watched Senator Bachmann’s fawning, touchy-feely close encounter with our disaster-in-chief & gagged. As a Minnesotan, I feel immense disgust & shame that she “represents” MN.

ironranger @ 216

I watched Senator Bachmann’s fawning, touchy-feely close encounter with our disaster-in-chief & gagged. As a Minnesotan, I feel immense disgust & shame that she “represents” MN.

Any insight into her desperation to associate herself with him? I don’t get it.

Mornin’ all!

FYI – Tony Blair feels more optimistic about the SOTU than he has in a couple years. C-SPAN2 currently showing the British House of Commons.

mandrake @ 216

Any insight into her desperation to associate herself with him? I don’t get it.

Assholes are magnetic?

Listen you guys,….I had to stay up til 2am to watch this nonsense so easy on the complaining… remember this is not just a State of the Union address ..he has messed up the world!! Smack him Nancy!!!!

g’mornin’ twolf1

hope your coffee’s hot & your muffin is tasty.

Hi stibbert, i’m just going to scrounge up some coffee now.

mandrake: Bachmann is a “compassionate conservative” who once hid behind some shrubs to spy on a gay rights rally at the MN capitol, who prayed with her hubby for days on whether to run for senate seat until God gave her the go ahead & more. Lots more fun reading & videos at a MN site called dumpmichellebachmann if it is still up.

CNN’s Soledad O’brien – “Iraq, Iraq, Iraq — It’s no surprise that Iraq was a big part of the President’s speech last night.”

yesterday, reading here at the lake, I thought ‘ ’s wonderful here’, like I was watching a new definition of the world taking shape, and I could read it as it was being live-blogged right in front of me!

Morning all.

Was it good for you too?

well,…it left me wanting more, like say…Impeachment of as many officials as possible.

U.S. launches new air strike on Somalia: report

Time to head off to work. There’s still plenty of coffee left, and some corn muffins on the counter. Help yourselves.

Work for peace, every day, pups.

I skipped the “colonoscopy” speech, but saw Olbermann. Hillary was on looking very pretty–not that that matters– sounding good on some things, and not so good on others. I thought she was pretty appropriately scathing of Bush though. She does have rapier wit, I just wish she wasn’t a buddy or former buddy of Lieberman.

Have a good day NJProg.

(Oh god I laughed so hard when I read this. I did spend most of the speech watching Nancy Pelosi, but you’re right, it would have been so much better if she had smacked him–and given him the gum.

I did notice Dick Cheney spending quite a lot of time masticating a breath mint. Finally, after working it around his mouth, I saw the swallow and it was gone. Then he had to amuse himself with a glass of water. Nancy had a little more restraint.

Michelle Bachman’s Past

Michelle Bachman’s Future

Good Morning Firedogs

Alexandra @ 234

(Oh god I laughed so hard when I read this. I did spend most of the speech watching Nancy Pelosi, but you’re right, it would have been so much better if she had smacked him–and given him the gum.

If I watched the speech, it’d be to watch Pelosi as she stood behind Chimpy. She did stand behind him, right? Mwahaha

twolf1 (230) — can we now say Bush is “wagging the dog”?

lose the 2006 mid-terms -> escalate the Iraq War

Wagging the dog.

28% JAR -> rattle the sabre at Iran

Wagging the dog.

Negative reviews for SOTU -> bombing Somalia

Wagging the dog.

Ugh. Maybe we can have the moron-in-chief arrested for animal abuse.

Did you all read Juan Cole this morning. His gloves are off…or Think Progress? Too bad most Americans dont see the truth.

njprogressive @ 231

Time to head off to work. There’s still plenty of coffee left, and some corn muffins on the counter. Help yourselves.

Work for peace, every day, pups.

O.K. send ‘em on down the “tubes.”

Rayne – ChimpCo has been wagging the dog since they stole the first election.

Loved Tucker’s blog line; something to the effect of ‘If you’re John McCain, who’ll be 70 in 2008, the last thing you want people to see is you slumped, out cold during the speech. Yet that’s exactly what happened!’

Morning pups…

black coffee this AM here.

Is there any overnight ‘numbers’ instapoll.

I haven’t seen any yet. But, eyes are still in low-res.

I really think he’s going ‘unilateral’ ME policy.
–
Webb looked more ‘Presidential’ to me. That’s the new Truman. But, I was a pup when he passed, so that’s not a first hand opinion. But, that phrase about ‘just the Truth … and they think it’s hell.’
–
Fitz!

…coming up soon. And, none too soon.

TREX – Longtime lurker (extraordinaire) here. From reading your posts, I knew we shared the same geographical DNA, but I can’t believe are in the same town! At the SAME TIME!!! And that I am SO close to greatness…

P.S. I live in the land that time forgot – - South Columbus. Holla!

speaking of McCain – he’s live on CNN now…

snowbird42 @ 238

Did you all read Juan Cole this morning. His gloves are off…or Think Progress? Too bad most Americans dont see the truth.

It’s troubling to see anyone accept Bush’s misinformed comments let alone embrace them. He has been able to morph a conceived “war” on terror-related idealism into a propaganda campaign that appears to be designed to scare the public into Shia/Sunni threats in the US. Those neocons are effective.

Lieberman, every fucking time he talks!

twolf1 @ 244

speaking of McCain – he’s live on CNN now…

McCain – “Lieberman would never have been re-elected if it (iraq) was as simple as some of my democratic friends portray it”

ironranger at 216

I live in the 6th District represented by her. And emailis are flying around our district astonished that she could be so — immature and fawning. We here in the 6th are hanging our heads. I want a car sticker that said “I did NOT vote for Bachmann”.

Personally I think she is one of those syncophants who loves being close to power. She will never achieve anything on her own, so she basks in the shadow of others.

She is one of the truly crazy wingnuts, and you KNOW they love all that grandiosity. she won this district by some of the lowest, skunkiest, slimest tricks that can be used. As well as the infamous late night calls telling untrue tales of Patty. And, alas, the 6th district is the reddest in the state. There are people trying to change that.

Oh, and good morning everyone. Sending long distance hugs to Jane and egregious. And to TRex. Let all news for them be the very best. My tests yesterday were all perfect. So now the doctor, not satisfied, wants to do more. It must be genetic with them.

raven @ 246

Lieberman, every fucking time he talks!

twolf1 @ 244

speaking of McCain – he’s live on CNN now…

Here’s a scary thought. The machine moves McCain into position to replace Cheney and then moves up and he names JoeLie as VP.

I dunno what’s worse, that scenario or the gut feeling that Cheney would never allow himself to be usurped.

Michelle Bachmann–filling the hole previously occupied by Katherine Harris.

Meme o’the Day: George Bush cut and ran from New Orleans.

Jim Webb rocked!

rumi @ 249

raven @ 246

Lieberman, every fucking time he talks!

twolf1 @ 244

speaking of McCain – he’s live on CNN now…

Here’s a scary thought. The machine moves McCain into position to replace Cheney and then moves up and he names JoeLie as VP.

I dunno what’s worse, that scenario or the gut feeling that Cheney would never allow himself to be usurped.

I was thinking that the machine is moving McCain into OVP soon. His ‘hit’ on Cheney got me there.

The second part is beyond contemplation. [edit: Traitor Joe, that is]

The thrird part is yet to be seen.

I don’t get this, people really think Cheney is gong anywhere???

I was thinking that the machine is moving McCain into OVP soon. His ‘hit’ on Cheney got me there.

The second part is beyond contemplation.

Liberman/Quayle ‘08

Imus just said, “Bush is not a moron, he just plays one on tv!”

I don’t think they can just “move” McCain or Condi into the VP spot – whoever it is will have to be elected by the Senate… and McCain with all his crazy noise innit gonna make it…

morning gang…

twolf1 @ 247

McCain – “Lieberman would never have been re-elected if it (iraq) was as simple as some of my democratic friends portray it”

Yeah I saw McCain on meat the press saying pretty much the same thing. How dishonest. More like folks in CT wouldn’t have voted for Liarman if he hadn’t lied about his position on Iraq. So the question that runs through my mind: Is McCain stupid or a liar?

share @ 197

http://www.rumormillnews.com/c…..ead=97359.

…CCC CAMPS … WORKER CIVILIAN LABOR FORCE OF THE 1930s?

23 January 2007

In Response To: PARDON ME, BUT WHAT THE #$%&! IS THIS: “CIVILIAN RESERVE CORPS”???

I am wondering if President Bush’s reference in tonight’s address when he said:

*** “A second task we can take on together is to design and establish a volunteer Civilian Reserve Corps. Such a corps would function much like our military reserve. It would ease the burden on the Armed Forces by allowing us to hire civilians with critical skills to serve on missions abroad when America needs them. And it would give people across America who do not wear the uniform a chance to serve in the defining struggle of our time.”

could possibly have been a reference to implementing something like the CCC labor camps of the 1930s. My grandfather used to mentioned these labor camps when I was a girl.

The CCC was run by the Army. And, I think these laborers may have received lower wages than the military personnel of that day.

There were hundreds of camps set up around the country to enlist the work efforts of people ‘after the great depression.’ The men living in these camps were provided food and minimal lodging after a hard days work. And, the man telling his story (in the article linked below) said he was allowed to keep $5 a month, and he had to send the other $10 home to his family.

The ‘Civilian Conservation Corps’ was designed and implemented by Franklin D. Roosevelt as part of the New Deal.

I am not saying this is what President Bush has in mind for the American people, however, the term …’Civilian Reserve Corps’ sounds very similar to the worker labor program of the 1930s.

*****

CCC, Civilian Conservation Corps

Written by Bill Ganzel of the Ganzel Group.

It’s ironic that the first “C” in the CCC refers to the “Civilian” Conservation Corps because the program was actually run by the U.S. Army. The CCC was a public works program that put more than three million young men and adults to work building roads and trails in parks, building conservation dams, building campgrounds, planting trees, draining swamps, replanting grazing land, renovating historic buildings and stringing telephone lines.

At most camps, the days were long and hard. But in the evening, there was time for games, education classes, and even plays and variety shows put on by the enrollees. Most of those who adjusted to the military discipline re-enlisted when their six months was up. The men could stay in the CCC up to two years.

……

read article here:

http://www.livinghistoryfarm.o…..er_12.html .

..READER: PREPARE FOR THE DRAFT – This is the incident to reactivate it!

http://www.rumormillnews.com/c…..read=98481

Sounds to me like the Nazi brown shirts – ie people who rat on unpatriotic citizens, pseudo military workers which allow the regular army (and especially the national guard) to fight a war elsewhere. In other words, don’t worry if the underpaid and under-protected National Guards are away getting blown up in Iraq and Iran, we will now have local “home guards” in case you get a storm in your state in which (in the past) the national guard would have been called up.

GrandmaJ @
248

ironranger at 216

I live in the 6th District represented by her. And emailis are flying around our district astonished that she could be so — immature and fawning. We here in the 6th are hanging our heads. I want a car sticker that said “I did NOT vote for Bachmann”.

Personally I think she is one of those syncophants who loves being close to power. She will never achieve anything on her own, so she basks in the shadow of others.

She is one of the truly crazy wingnuts, and you KNOW they love all that grandiosity. she won this district by some of the lowest, skunkiest, slimest tricks that can be used. As well as the infamous late night calls telling untrue tales of Patty. And, alas, the 6th district is the reddest in the state. There are people trying to change that.

Oh, and good morning everyone. Sending long distance hugs to Jane and egregious. And to TRex. Let all news for them be the very best. My tests yesterday were all perfect. So now the doctor, not satisfied, wants to do more. It must be genetic with them.

Morning GrandmaJ,

Woe is me; I live in Bachmann’s home town (Stillwater).

Whom on earth voted for her and Lieberman? Anyone admitting it?

It would ease the burden on the Armed Forces by allowing us to hire civilians with critical skills to serve on missions abroad when America needs them. And it would give people across America who do not wear the uniform a chance to serve in the defining struggle of our time.”

Like this?

Five Americans killed in U.S. copter crash

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Four of the five Americans killed when a U.S. security company’s helicopter crashed in a dangerous Sunni neighborhood in central Baghdad were shot execution style in the back the head, an Iraqi military official said Wednesday.

The official — who, like all others contacted, spoke on condition of anonymity because details had not been made public — said the four were shot while on the ground. He gave no other details. …….

Dump Bachmann!

GrandmaJ: I can just feel the pain & shame that rational adult voters in your dist like yourself felt when batty bachmann “won”. I can only hope that her Katherine Harris parallels will erupt in the media sooner, rather than later. The bumper sticker idea, I like it a lot.
Prairie Sunshine: Bachmann, Harris, Katherine Kersten, Schmidt…they just blur together in my mind.
Spring is coming so hopefully I will find your email so I can send you some lupine seeds I promised last year. Praying for lots of rain or gardening is going to be big challenge & fire danger a huge worry.

the chimp wants to write in to law the government funding of the likes of Blackwater

OldCoastie @ 255

I don’t think they can just “move” McCain or Condi into the VP spot – whoever it is will have to be elected by the Senate… and McCain with all his crazy noise innit gonna make it…

morning gang…

If the most powerful lobby groups in DC go to their legislators and explain that all funding stops if their man doesn’t get the job, what way will the Senate likely vote?

new thread up

rumi — Sad, isn’t it?

I suspect the real reasons behind this “Civilian Reserve Corp.” are multiple; can get around Congressional approval require to ramp up troop count by employing civilians to cover logistics-related matters that troops now handle, and can obtain these civilians at costs far less than Blackwater/Halliburton rate.

And probably more than the cost of the troops we are now employing to do this same work.

I wish Bush would just bail out now, like he has on everything else he’s ever done. There would be little damage if he simply walked out of his office and hopped a plane to Paraguay right now. It might give the American people the backbone necessary to begin impeaching Cheney — since even the mouth-breathers in the basement can’t stand Cheney.

Redd in da’ house upstairs…

Rayne and twolf1

yup, I think so too. It probably has a few liability from lawsuit and insurance protections. I saw Petraeus on a replay of his confirmation hearing. He specified civilian security forces in the numbers of forces needed for his operations.

mui @ 256

twolf1 @ 247

McCain – “Lieberman would never have been re-elected if it (iraq) was as simple as some of my democratic friends portray it”

Yeah I saw McCain on meat the press saying pretty much the same thing. How dishonest. More like folks in CT wouldn’t have voted for Liarman if he hadn’t lied about his position on Iraq. So the question that runs through my mind: Is McCain stupid or a liar?

This is a trick question: he is, of course, a stupid liar.

How’s that Mars Mission coming, Gomer? Are you going to run the big rocket ships on switchgrass?

Trex, you very funny. You should go places boy!!!

Definitely STFU! Luckily, we only have to endure one more of those BS speeches.

This speech would be so much more fun if Pelosi sat back there talking non-stop on a pink Motorola RAZR™ while smoking cigarettes and doing her nails, pausing only to occasionally roll her eyes and check her watch.

The other inhabitants wonder why sometimes I clap my hand over my mouth and make odd little snuffling noises. I tell them it’s to help pop my ears so I can hear again, but its generally from reading TRex roll out the snappy one-liner.

They know I lie.

-GFO

“God, you know, I would give anything to see Nancy Pelosi lean forward and just smack him across the back of the head good and hard. Then she’d open her purse and give him a half stick of gum to keep him quiet until the end of the sermon like my grandma would.”

For me it was that one. I was cackling so hard that I didn’t fully appreciate the last paragraph.

Trex has a black belt in snark.

Thanks GrandmaJ. Good to hear your tests were ok.

I’m surprised you didn’t use my little poem from earlier yesterday *sniff*

*g*

Keep up the good work and I hope you’re feeling better.