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		<title>By: rumi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-467498</link>
		<dc:creator>rumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-467444&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;seloverb @&lt;br /&gt;
                135              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jay Rockefeller also did the handwritten response to the Bush administration’s use of warrant-less wiretaps, objecting to it on constitutional grounds. He wrote it by hand because he could not divulge the contents of the briefing he received, which was minimally received by Democrats, but was given to a select few, including Jay Rockefeller. I believe we may have more of a patriot for the people, than the Rockefeller name would typically imply.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  Sometimes it can be difficult to remember that respect for the law requires certain actions, rules, protocols and oaths to be followed even if the ‘other guys’ aren’t. I have no complaints….well, no reasonable complaints.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-467444"><em>seloverb @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Jay Rockefeller also did the handwritten response to the Bush administration’s use of warrant-less wiretaps, objecting to it on constitutional grounds. He wrote it by hand because he could not divulge the contents of the briefing he received, which was minimally received by Democrats, but was given to a select few, including Jay Rockefeller. I believe we may have more of a patriot for the people, than the Rockefeller name would typically imply.</p>
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<p>  Sometimes it can be difficult to remember that respect for the law requires certain actions, rules, protocols and oaths to be followed even if the ‘other guys’ aren’t. I have no complaints….well, no reasonable complaints.</p>
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		<title>By: seloverb</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-467444</link>
		<dc:creator>seloverb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jay Rockefeller also did the handwritten response to the Bush administration’s use of warrant-less wiretaps, objecting to it on constitutional grounds. He wrote it by hand because he could not divulge the contents of the briefing he received, which was minimally received by Democrats, but was given to a select few, including Jay Rockefeller. I believe we may have more of a patriot for the people, than the Rockefeller name would typically imply.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Rockefeller also did the handwritten response to the Bush administration’s use of warrant-less wiretaps, objecting to it on constitutional grounds. He wrote it by hand because he could not divulge the contents of the briefing he received, which was minimally received by Democrats, but was given to a select few, including Jay Rockefeller. I believe we may have more of a patriot for the people, than the Rockefeller name would typically imply.</p>
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		<title>By: Robyne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-466951</link>
		<dc:creator>Robyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466763&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 12 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466755&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Glorfindel @ 5 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe he also said that Bush “doesn’t read.”&lt;br /&gt;
Which we know is not true, since there is video of him reading “My Pet Goat”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe he (Bush) reads nursery rhymes. And books about ‘goats’ or some such.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now wasnt he very busy reading when he was told about the Twin Towers? That PROVES he reads albeit SLOWLY&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-466763"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 12 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-466755"><em>Glorfindel @ 5 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I believe he also said that Bush “doesn’t read.”<br />
Which we know is not true, since there is video of him reading “My Pet Goat”.</p>
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<p>I believe he (Bush) reads nursery rhymes. And books about ‘goats’ or some such.</p>
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<p>Now wasnt he very busy reading when he was told about the Twin Towers? That PROVES he reads albeit SLOWLY</p>
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		<title>By: tryggth</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-466909</link>
		<dc:creator>tryggth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466889&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jayt @ 124&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
My understanding is that military personnel may avoid, in bankruptcy, only those bills incurred while on “active duty”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, if your kid gets sick, ya better hope somebody is shooting at you at the same time - otherwise, you’re just as screwed as the rest of us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That sounds plausible. I was thinking more along the lines of using a signing bonus as a way out from beneath an insurmountable debt. But that might not be possible…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-466889"><em>jayt @ 124</em></a></p>
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My understanding is that military personnel may avoid, in bankruptcy, only those bills incurred while on “active duty”.</p>
<p>So, if your kid gets sick, ya better hope somebody is shooting at you at the same time &#8211; otherwise, you’re just as screwed as the rest of us.</p>
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<p>That sounds plausible. I was thinking more along the lines of using a signing bonus as a way out from beneath an insurmountable debt. But that might not be possible…</p>
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		<title>By: jayt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-466904</link>
		<dc:creator>jayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466899&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;kathleen @&lt;br /&gt;
                130              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Jesus Mary and Joseph” as my catholic mother says. “FINALLY” is an understatement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our nation and the world watched a Republican controlled Senate hold a President accountable for lying about a BLOWJOB under oath…and then they found this so serious that they Impeached him. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yet a Republican controlled congress failed to hold anyone or office accountable for an INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB that has resulted in tens of thousands of dead, injured, and displaced. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Senator Rockerfeller does not complete Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which Senator Pat Roberts refused to do. If they do not hold those responsible for the false pre-war intelligence accountable. Our congress will prove to us and to the rest of the world that it really does take a blowjob to get these “supposed” representatives to take their congressional oversight responsibilities seriously. If this proves to be so, we are done for!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will lies about a BLOWJOB prove more important to congress than an INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are waiting Senator Rockerfeller, we are waiting!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Here in EPU land - let me try out my best line - “Have we met before”?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just an oldschool question.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if I’m wrong, please don’t be offended, it’s just that’s there’s an incredibly intelligent and talented lady who also posts as Kathleen on a different blog.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-466899"><em>kathleen @<br />
                130              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“Jesus Mary and Joseph” as my catholic mother says. “FINALLY” is an understatement.</p>
<p>Our nation and the world watched a Republican controlled Senate hold a President accountable for lying about a BLOWJOB under oath…and then they found this so serious that they Impeached him. </p>
<p>Yet a Republican controlled congress failed to hold anyone or office accountable for an INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB that has resulted in tens of thousands of dead, injured, and displaced. </p>
<p>If Senator Rockerfeller does not complete Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which Senator Pat Roberts refused to do. If they do not hold those responsible for the false pre-war intelligence accountable. Our congress will prove to us and to the rest of the world that it really does take a blowjob to get these “supposed” representatives to take their congressional oversight responsibilities seriously. If this proves to be so, we are done for!</p>
<p>Will lies about a BLOWJOB prove more important to congress than an INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB?</p>
<p>We are waiting Senator Rockerfeller, we are waiting!</p>
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<p><i>Here in EPU land &#8211; let me try out my best line &#8211; “Have we met before”?</i></p>
<p>Just an oldschool question.</p>
<p>And if I’m wrong, please don’t be offended, it’s just that’s there’s an incredibly intelligent and talented lady who also posts as Kathleen on a different blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Pade</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-466901</link>
		<dc:creator>Pade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466894&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs, AR @ 127 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466886&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pade @ 122&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did anyone else hear John Roberts on CNN’s Week at War identify Lieberliar as a Democrat?  I’m about to send him an email.  Perhaps we should inundate him with emails.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please post his email addy. That really steams my clams.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just go to CNN,find the specific show and there is a contact us feature.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It really makes me angry too.  These Yahoos know better.  I appealed to his being accurate as a reporter side.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for joining me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-466894"><em>Eureka Springs, AR @ 127 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-466886"><em>Pade @ 122</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Did anyone else hear John Roberts on CNN’s Week at War identify Lieberliar as a Democrat?  I’m about to send him an email.  Perhaps we should inundate him with emails.</p>
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<p>Please post his email addy. That really steams my clams.</p>
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<p>I just go to CNN,find the specific show and there is a contact us feature.</p>
<p>It really makes me angry too.  These Yahoos know better.  I appealed to his being accurate as a reporter side.</p>
<p>Thanks for joining me.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-466899</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Jesus Mary and Joseph” as my catholic mother says. “FINALLY” is an understatement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our nation and the world watched a Republican controlled Senate hold a President accountable for lying about a BLOWJOB under oath…and then they found this so serious that they Impeached him. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yet a Republican controlled congress failed to hold anyone or office accountable for an INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB that has resulted in tens of thousands of dead, injured, and displaced. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Senator Rockerfeller does not complete Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which Senator Pat Roberts refused to do. If they do not hold those responsible for the false pre-war intelligence accountable. Our congress will prove to us and to the rest of the world that it really does take a blowjob to get these “supposed” representatives to take their congressional oversight responsibilities seriously. If this proves to be so, we are done for!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will lies about a BLOWJOB prove more important to congress than an INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are waiting Senator Rockerfeller, we are waiting!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Jesus Mary and Joseph” as my catholic mother says. “FINALLY” is an understatement.</p>
<p>Our nation and the world watched a Republican controlled Senate hold a President accountable for lying about a BLOWJOB under oath…and then they found this so serious that they Impeached him. </p>
<p>Yet a Republican controlled congress failed to hold anyone or office accountable for an INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB that has resulted in tens of thousands of dead, injured, and displaced. </p>
<p>If Senator Rockerfeller does not complete Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which Senator Pat Roberts refused to do. If they do not hold those responsible for the false pre-war intelligence accountable. Our congress will prove to us and to the rest of the world that it really does take a blowjob to get these “supposed” representatives to take their congressional oversight responsibilities seriously. If this proves to be so, we are done for!</p>
<p>Will lies about a BLOWJOB prove more important to congress than an INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB?</p>
<p>We are waiting Senator Rockerfeller, we are waiting!</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-466896</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/face-the-snark-31/&quot;&gt;Face the Snark&lt;/a&gt; is available upstairs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/face-the-snark-31/">Face the Snark</a> is available upstairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-466895</link>
		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466883&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jeffreyw @ 120&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466879&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If someone enlists in the military today, and finds it is not what it was cracked up to be, or gets killed or loses legs or whatever, then are we prepared to say, ‘caveat emptor’?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fuck no.  We say thank you for your service, we grieve for your loss, and we promise not to abandon you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People join the military for many different reasons, including wanting to be a soldier, sailor, or whatever. They do it because it’s the best way out of the place they’re in, or to get an education, have an adventure, or just to serve. Whatever the reason, you can’t just say “Hey, it says on the label that this is dangerous”. It’s a dangerous job by definition, and part of &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; obligation is to take care of the ones who get injured doing that job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our other obligation as a society is to not send them to places like Iraq and Iran without good reason. So far, we’ve failed in that one, so I think we need to live up to the rest of our part of the bargain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-466883"><em>jeffreyw @ 120</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-466879"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>If someone enlists in the military today, and finds it is not what it was cracked up to be, or gets killed or loses legs or whatever, then are we prepared to say, ‘caveat emptor’?</p>
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<p>Fuck no.  We say thank you for your service, we grieve for your loss, and we promise not to abandon you.</p>
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<p>People join the military for many different reasons, including wanting to be a soldier, sailor, or whatever. They do it because it’s the best way out of the place they’re in, or to get an education, have an adventure, or just to serve. Whatever the reason, you can’t just say “Hey, it says on the label that this is dangerous”. It’s a dangerous job by definition, and part of <em>our</em> obligation is to take care of the ones who get injured doing that job.</p>
<p>Our other obligation as a society is to not send them to places like Iraq and Iran without good reason. So far, we’ve failed in that one, so I think we need to live up to the rest of our part of the bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs, AR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/21/long-time-coming/#comment-466894</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs, AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-466886&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pade @ 122&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did anyone else hear John Roberts on CNN’s Week at War identify Lieberliar as a Democrat?  I’m about to send him an email.  Perhaps we should inundate him with emails.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please post his email addy. That really steams my clams.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-466886"><em>Pade @ 122</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Did anyone else hear John Roberts on CNN’s Week at War identify Lieberliar as a Democrat?  I’m about to send him an email.  Perhaps we should inundate him with emails.</p>
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<p>Please post his email addy. That really steams my clams.</p>
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