
(Photo: Reuters, UK)
How can you tell that American agencies aren't working on the poisoning case of Alexander Litvinenko?
Because they've figured out who did it.
Police have identified the man they believe poisoned Alexander Litvinenko. The suspected killer was captured on cameras at Heathrow as he flew into Britain to carry out the murder.
Friends of the ex-spy say that the man was a hired killer, sent by the Kremlin, who vanished hours after administering a deadly dose of radioactive polonium-210 to Litvinenko.
He arrived in London on a forged EU passport and reportedly slipped the poison into a cup of tea he made for Litvinenko in a London hotel room. (Times, UK)
The man, known as "Vladislav" who is described as being "tall and powerfully built, in his thirties with short, cropped black hair and distinctive Central Asian features", has a connection to former KGB agent Andrei Lugovoi, who has tested positive for polonium exposure and met with Litvinenko on several occasions before his death, and another Russian expat named Dmitri Kovtun. The interesting thing is that there may have been several attempts to poison Litvinenko. Maybe even twice at the London sushi restaurant Itsu, once on November 1st when Litvinenko met with Italian security expert Mario Scaramella and once at a meeting in October :
Itsu first came to attention in the investigation into Litvinenko's murder because of a meeting he held there with Italian contact Mario Scaramella on November 1, the day the Russian fell violently ill.
But the BBC said radioactive contamination discovered there by investigators was in a different part of the restaurant from where Litvinenko and Scaramella were sitting.
It said the traces were "most likely" at the seats where Litvinenko had met two Russian businessmen, Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitri Kovtun, at Itsu on October 16.
Scaramella told the Panorama programme, due to be broadcast on Monday evening: "I know they closed (the restaurant) because they found the polonium, but (it) seems it was not in the place where we (were) seated. So lots of things must be clarified. Where we (were) seated there is no polonium." (Reuters)
But Scaramella was poisoned somewhere, because he was the second person to test positive for exposure to polonium, which leads me to believe that multiple poisoning attempts were made at Itsu and again on November 1st at London's Millenium Hotel:
Lugovoi and Kovtun also met Litvinenko at London's Millennium Hotel on November 1. Traces of radiation have been found there too, and eight staff and at least three guests of the hotel have tested positive for small doses of polonium.
Both the Russians strongly deny involvement in Litvinenko's death and have themselves received treatment at a Moscow hospital, although details of their state of health are unclear.
Hmmmmm.
The Times newspaper on Saturday quoted Litvinenko's friend, former KGB agent Oleg Gordievsky, as saying the tea was made by a man introduced to Litvinenko as Vladislav.
Litvinenko believed "the water from the kettle was only lukewarm and that the polonium 210 was added, which heated the drink through radiation so he had a hot cup of tea. The poison would have showed up in a cold drink", Gordievsky said.
Okay, how's that for creepy? And here is where we meet "Vladislav", the man who purportedly carried the polonium-210 into the UK and administered the poison. Who has he working for? The Kremlin and the FSB? The Russian oligarch who Litvinenko was allegedly trying to blackmail?
We may never know. As I pointed out in my second piece on this case, the assassin is probably dead himself from exposure to the isotope.
Scotland Yard police declined to comment, saying they would not discuss details of the investigation.
Bloody British. Why do they have to be so discreet and professional? Don't they know that solving a crime isn't as important as getting credit for it? We need to get some American investigators on this case so we can have some serious leaks to the media. What's Ken Starr doing these days?
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TRex!
TRex!
Vladislav, Schmadislav, I LOVED Billie. Thanks for sharing that song last night.
Ed*ard Teller @ 2
That was Pachacutec’s post.
Fitz ya, TRex! I’ve never liked tea.
Thereby neatly fulfilling the first rule of assassination: always kill the assassin.
TRex @
3
Duh……
EvilDrPuma @
5
What happens to the person who kills ther assassin?
Ed*ard Teller @ 7
Depends. Jack Ruby went to jail….
Ed*ard Teller @ 6
If they’re smart, they keep their trap shut and get away with it.
Can I be a grammar nerd?
discrete = separate
discreet = prudent in speech or action
I tell my 8th graders to think of two people (the e’s) with their heads together, not letting anyone else overhear. The e’s in the one that means “separate” are…hey, lookit…separated!
Great post, Pach.
Jane home from hospital!!! Yay!!!
Now off to work this morning, to help others get out of the hospital.
Oops, a TRex post. (I got confused with the comment about another post.)
Hey, eg!
Dixie @
10
I fixed it. Thanks for the mnemonic device, too.
ohhh…boy.
popcorn all around -
Other folks are intrigued by this too. I’m only vaguely familiar with details. I know somebody here is ‘facsinated’ by some seeming Marlene Dietrich Russina. ..a reporter, maybe? Would love to have a coffee or something,iirc.
Nice series. Adult Ed in spycraft and other things. John LeCarre non-fiction by blog.
artie johnson unbiting butt:
“Vvveeeeeddddyyy intrrestingk!”
I was just reading a Reuters report on this and I wondered if you knew about it. Doh! It must be those huge long legs that keep you so far ahead of the rest of us!
There was enough polonium that it heated up the lukewarm water to make tea? That means if you put it in a cold beverage, one’s target could detect it because it would heat up the cold beverage?
Spies: only cold beverages for a while!
Betcha Pickles stops drinking her RC-cola.
If anyone showed up sick and bald any where in the world, wouldn’t the medical staff say “Hey, you look like that Russian guy did right before he died”? We haven’t heard about any other people being that sick.
So, what if the guy committed suicide, knowing he was going to die soon anyway? If there was an autopsy after his death, the M.E. would not know to check for, or protect him/herself against radiation exposure from working with the body.
Just thinking out loud here, but if the assasin is dead, he had to have died shortly after Litvinenko got sick, and BEFORE he died, or we would have heard about it.
TheOtherWA @ 18
We would not have heard about it if he was back in the hands of the people who sent him, in Russia perhaps?
Plameologists take note! More fascinating reporting and analysis by emptywheel:
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c……html#more
He probably was locked in a closed hospital ward somewhere in the arctic circle and left to die. He may have even known that this was a suicide mission.
egregious,
Still here? I saw Diane Benson last night for the first time since the election. She asked me to say “Hi and thanks again and again!”
montag @ 8
And Jack Ruby got cancer…hmmm…so did Martha Mitchell, didn’t she?…hmmm.
The polonium heated the tea after being added to the cup? Hmmm…that seems a little far-fetched. Any physicists or chemists in the house tonight?
You have a point, TSF. I was thinking of this post from Larisa when I wrote my comment above. I have no idea if she has correct info.
Ann in AZ @
23
Who did Martha shoot? Oh, yeah – she was seen in Dealey Plaza, wasn’t she?
huh? what happened to the illegal drug angle?
besides, it’s a better story
Oh..BBC had a Date in History for Sun being the anniversary of Vlad Lenin’s passing.
Saturday was anniversary of Eric Blair’s demise.
fyi
curous karma, no?
R.I.P. John Kerry, hamster
TRex, didja see this in the Independant Online Edition
Thanks TRex, I haven’t followed the story, but you’re posts on it are lucid and captivating.
Ed*ard Teller @ 26
Martha shot off her mouth too much, from all reports. She seemed to be a regular gadfly at a time when there was an enemies list. Said things that could cause embarrassment to people in high places.
iirc, didn’t she shoot her mouth off to Helen Thomas? Late-night calls from the bathroom? Door closed private like?
imho and ianal
gonzo is far worse than mitchell
and his wife must not be worth much.
(…and I assume ‘gadfly’ means ‘drunk’ – that was my understanding. no smearing the dead. i’ve loved a some drunks; some are dead.) It may have strengthened her when she needed it, and our country needed to hear her view into the abyss.)
after all, Helen’s still a reporter and would certainly entertain such a call, I’d think.
could expedite his departure from AG and extradition to the Hague.
hey i can hope, right?
Persiflage – your secret quest for an Aussie cricket loss was foiled again, but they made it exciting. Not so exiting that I did not fall asleep, but exciting nonetheless.
Trex – my late father used to say that the CIA had to be the cover for our real intelligence service, as they could not really be that incompetent. The Brits, on the other hand, know their stuff.
Ann in AZ,
Yeah, Martha was truthful, and they shut her up, or so I remember.
“Martha Mitchell was famous for her phone calls to the press about matters the Nixon-era conspirators wanted kept under wraps”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell
OT: Rahm’s DCCC successor has a WaPo chatz tomorrow
Questions can be submitted anytime.
EvilDrPuma @ 5
Glad to see I’m not the only one who thought of Jack Ruby.
News from down under:
Qantas bars passenger on Melbourne to London flight for wearing a T-shirt with a pic of Chimpy with the legend “World’s number 1 terrorist” according to the Sydney Morning Herald.
[Link to SMH not working, mods please help]
In other news staff at the Australian Defence Force are selling assault weapons to motorcycle gangs (called bikies here) according to The Australian
Thus it appears down here: wearing T-shirt calling Bush a terrorist, not OK, selling assult rifles to hoodlums, OK.
Put another shrimp on the barbie.
I wonder where Rayne is tonight. She loves this stuff.
Ed*ard Teller @ 22
On behalf of democracy, you’re welcome :)
(waving to eg)
TRex @ 13
Hey TRex!
My ride’s late so I’ve got a couple.
Notice how I’m saying nothing whatsoever about your topic? That’s ok in this case I hope.
Suzanne @ 41
Hey there. Thx for your comment on egregiousBlog.
Usually I say What’s on your mind, but perhaps I should ask people, What’s on your other hemisphere?
Blank Kludge @ 32
Gonzo may be worse than Mitchell, but probably not by much. In this case, “gadfly” is more like “Armitage.” There was a line in an old movie I remember where Bing Crosby says to Barry Fitzgerald, “A new broom sweeps clean.” Then Barry says to Bing, “Ah, but an old broom knows where the dirt is.” Martha Mitchell may have been drunk, but she was that old broom.
egregious @ 42
That’s a big ten-four, little darlin’.
petedownunder @ 33
I was watching Pete. Not exactly edge of the seat but an exciting, if not impressive, performance.
Living in Darwin many years ago I used to deal regularly with an insurance guy who the whole town knew was the local ASIO agent. An ex-military man, he could usually be found propping up the bar at the Darwin Club. For some reason, we didn’t feel particularly reassured about our safety.
egregious @ 43
Left, right, eastern, or western?
Ann in AZ @ 44
well, maybe I’ve never heard of 40-odd paged memos that Mitchell wrote- creating the continuing NSA blanket destruction of a whole amemdment. Or defining us out of Geneva.
Did Mitchell testify without being sworn?
Amd further, testify under oath that habeas isn’t promised to all Americans in the COnstitution (with two exceptions)?
Waving around the world…Hi eg! How’s the weather in Russia?
petedownunder – are you seeing Comet McNaught in the evening there in Sydney? It is glorious here in NZ. Clear skies tonight so we should get another glance.
And back in the USA….another thanks for all you are doing. Now, to go out on a sweaty summer evening…..Oh, and a little, no a big prayer, for me as I go on a two day hike/overnight with about 50 teenagers visiting from New Caledonia this Thursday/Friday. I’m 55. What am I thinking?
oregondave @ 47
I think she may have been referring to the Rush album from 1978.
eg, can you check your email from where you are?
Usually I say What’s on your mind, but perhaps I should ask people, What’s on your other hemisphere?
eg, i like it because (1) its different and (2) it has so many different meanings
suz
I am a very happy Colts fan tonight, my hometown is on cloud 9 right now!
I don’t know what you’re thinking agreeing to do that, but good luck! Please tell me there are many more adults going too?
egregious @
11
Is Jane really home??? Welcome home Jane!
Jane’s home too? The Colts go to the Super Bowl and Jane is home, a very good day indeed.
I think there are 7 adults going. The short-termers (here for a few weeks) are sometimes difficult to get to know, but we’re also taking some of our long-time students who come from other countries, and some of those I have such affection for. I love walking and tramping and the random conversations that can develop along the tramp. It should be a decent break from classroom teaching.
Trex – Saw a link to the story this morning and immediately thought of the inquiring theropod post in our near future.
Are we supposed to think Vlad brought polonium with him on a plane? Why would polonium be in other areas of the sushi bar? How did Vlad get out of England? (if in fact he did)
If something so small but hot as this dose of polonium supposedly was, is in a cup of tea, would one look into a cup and see some small carbonation looking action of sorts? (boiling bubbles)
very interesting..
Persiflage @ 46
Like the Aldrich Ames case
in the US where this guy was a CIA agent and received $2.4 million dollars from the Russians, was suddenly living very well and showing up to work drunk, did everything but wear a KGB t-shirt to the office while singing the Internationale and they only caught him by accident.
Forged passport.
Persiflage – I have been to Darwin a couple of times, how does one “live” there. Exist, perhaps. You don’t have to drink, but I’m sure it helps.
Suzanne @ 52
Yeah, what suz said. From me in the western hemisphere, to egregious in the eastern hemisphere: Never mind. No (grey) matter. You’re right — what’s left to say? ;>)
TRex, I still can’t figure out when the Italian guy was exposed. The hot spot at the sushi joint was not where he met with L but at a spot where L had met with other Russians previously. There is no mention of the Italian at the hotel, the site where another dose was administered.
Any ideas?
NZ Expat, it sounds like a blast. An unpredictable blast, but it sounds wonderful. We’ll want stories when you get back home!
TheOtherWA @ 63
ditto
Ok, forged passport..
I would think some sort of radiation detection would be in place in international airports (maybe not). Vlad had to be hot when departing?
” How did Vlad get out of England? (if in fact he did)”
The real person upon whom the Dracula legends may have been based was named Vlad…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D…..in_Romania
Blank Kludge @ 48
gonzo is far worse than mitchell
and his wife must not be worth much.
(…and I assume ‘gadfly’ means ‘drunk’ – that was my understanding. no smearing the dead. i’ve loved a some drunks; some are dead.) It may have strengthened her when she needed it, and our country needed to hear her view into the abyss.)
after all, Helen’s still a reporter and would certainly entertain such a call, I’d think.
could expedite his departure from AG and extradition to the Hague.
hey i can hope, right?
Gonzo may be worse than Mitchell, but probably not by much. In this case, “gadfly” is more like “Armitage.” There was a line in an old movie I remember where Bing Crosby says to Barry Fitzgerald, “A new broom sweeps clean.” Then Barry says to Bing, “Ah, but an old broom knows where the dirt is.” Martha Mitchell may have been drunk, but she was that old broom.
well, maybe I’ve never heard of 40-odd paged memos that Mitchell wrote- creating the continuing NSA blanket destruction of a whole amemdment. Or defining us out of Geneva.
Did Mitchell testify without being sworn?
Amd further, testify under oath that habeas isn’t promised to all Americans in the COnstitution (with two exceptions)?
Did Mitchell end up being the “first United States Attorney General ever to be convicted of illegal activities and imprisoned. He also served as campaign director for the Committee to Re-elect the President, which engineered the Watergate first break-in and employed Watergate burglar James W. McCord, Jr. in a “security” capacity” per Wikipedia. He participated in a conspiracy with the likes of G. Gordon Liddy, who regularly brought him some of the most off the wall and over the top schemes that even Mitchell occasionally threw him out of the AG’s office. He was sentenced to two and a half years. By the way, I’ve been the one pushing for Gonzo’s forced retirement via impeachment, so you’re preaching to the choir.
Suzanne @ 63
To tell you the truth, I find that pretty confusing. There was no mention in either the Times or on Reuters about the state of his health or the fact that he was widely reported as the second contaminated party. It seems like I read that he received five times the lethal dose, but now of course I can’t find it.
petedownunder @ 59
Frankly, I don’t think old Jack knew enough to sell to anyone. To his credit, given the hours he spent in the bar, I never heard him say anything about ASIO, it was just common knowledge.
There were 3 planes that fly from Russia to London that tested postive for radiation, weren’t there? So, yeah, he brought it on a plane, used it on Litvenenko, then went back to Russia, and most likely died there.
Of course, that only accounts for 2 planes…
Suzanne @ 63
I keep thinking of a ‘hot’ cellphone.
I like to envision a future where I can go to London and cover this trial.
petedownunder @ 61
I haven’t been to Darwin for years but, in the late 70s it was great fun. Of course, we drank. And we left town at least once a year. I’d never go back in the Wet season but the Dry is truly glorious.
TRex @ 73
I like to envision a future where you can go to London and liveblog this trial. BTW, how is the funraising drive going? It’s payday on Thursday and I could chip in a little more if necessary.
TRex, I remember the reporting of the high dose too, but can’t remember where. It stuck in my mind because the article mentioned the inconsistency in receiving such a high dose and the apparent recovery from such a high dose – lead to the question in my mind, of how such a thing could occur?
TRex @ 72
A future in which you could cover this trial in Moscow is perhaps, too much to hope for?
Enough spy theories for me tonight.
I’m happy Jane’s home and recovering, and jury selection continues tomorrow in the Libby trial. This tired pup’s going to bed. Sweet dreams everyone!
Congrats Fini!
Trying to recall another non-Knight champisonship for Hoosiers. Maybe an old Rose Bowl?
ABA Pacers?
Not rubbing it in. Just can’t think of one.
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Ann in AZ @ 68
Gonzo may be worse than Mitchell, but probably not by much. In this case, “gadfly” is more like “Armitage.” There was a line in an old movie I remember where Bing Crosby says to Barry Fitzgerald, “A new broom sweeps clean.” Then Barry says to Bing, “Ah, but an old broom knows where the dirt is.” Martha Mitchell may have been drunk, but she was that old broom.
well, maybe I’ve never heard of 40-odd paged memos that Mitchell wrote- creating the continuing NSA blanket destruction of a whole amemdment. Or defining us out of Geneva.
Did Mitchell testify without being sworn?
Amd further, testify under oath that habeas isn’t promised to all Americans in the COnstitution (with two exceptions)?
Did Mitchell end up being the “first United States Attorney General ever to be convicted of illegal activities and imprisoned. He also served as campaign director for the Committee to Re-elect the President, which engineered the Watergate first break-in and employed Watergate burglar James W. McCord, Jr. in a “security” capacity” per Wikipedia. He participated in a conspiracy with the likes of G. Gordon Liddy, who regularly brought him some of the most off the wall and over the top schemes that even Mitchell occasionally threw him out of the AG’s office. He was sentenced to two and a half years. By the way, I’ve been the one pushing for Gonzo’s forced retirement via impeachment, so you’re preaching to the choir.
I figured that. And I had fuzzed the convict/jail. I’m familiar with the rest. But, Liddy was willing to be tortured, anyway. Mithcell never wrote legal precedent allowing it.
;!>
Leahy got a good start on Gonzo. Must trade notes w/COnyers.
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TeddySanFran @
17
but there’ll be no end to moon pies ……
Dita Beard.
punaise @ 80
omg ITT
I just talked to Jaaaaaaaane. She sounds fucking fantastic. What a fighter!
She sounds like she’s ready to walk to DC if she has to.
Blank Kludge @ 79
You’re right, and I didn’t take it as rubbing it in, it happens to be truth!
2001 (I think) is the last Pacers appearance in the Championship series. They lost to the Lakers in that one.
Indy Colts have never gone this far. Ever. Super Bowl hopes have been dashed yearly for their entire residence since moving from Baltimore. This is huge for the city, a real boost to the city ego.
TRex @
83
Good news. Great sign. It won’t be long now and Jane’ll be back with an essay more illuminating than Radium, more heat inducing and difficult to contain than polonium.
TRex >”How you can tell that American agencies…”
Uhhh, I think you mean “How can you tell that American agencies…”
“We are accustomed to the new land yet attached to the old country” – anon
daCascadian @
86
Oops. Aheh.
perhaps this charming incident has been recounted:
punaise @ 88
*shakes head*
Okay, time to venture out into the rain in search of something to nosh on. Back in a bit.
Brownie confirms my exact theory. Rove calculated that he could fuck with NO because the Guv was a Democratic female….Make her look like she screwed the pooch.
All while bending over backwards to help lawyer, former tobacco lobbyist and white male Haley Barbour.
How totally predicatable.
-GSD
GSD @ 90
don’t forget Trent’s porch.
punaise @ 88
I saw this yesterday and I will re enact my initial reaction to this for FDL now: DUUUUUUH!
So, will the Shiia of Iraq let themselves get stabbed in the back by another Bush?
Poppy Bush let them get mopped up by Saddam after Bush had told the Shiites and Kurds to revolt in 1991.
Now George W. is sticking the knife in them too.
Like father, like son.
-GSD
Suzanne >
Might not be important. Note that in these sorts of events there is a lot of misdirection involved so everything is open to question as to validity.
“There is no such thing as inaccuracy in a photograph. All photographs are accurate. None of them is the truth.” – Richard Avedon
thanks for the Jane news, TRex.
light a candle
GSD @ 90
With the exception of federalization it’s one plan they pulled off.
For republicans New Orleans is a win.
Blank Kludge at 79 says:
No I doubt that Mitchell ever wrote a legal brief or gave legal advice that appears to attempt to literally take our current system of government apart piece by piece as Gonzo is doing. But I do wonder if Leahy, et al, will actually impeach these guys (I’m sure if they start those proceedings, you will see the President doing to them what he did with Rumsfield when it became apparent that he would be going one way or the other!) My feeling is first Abu Gonzales, then Chertoff (whose ineptitude is nonpareil) Rove (comes equipped with his own high crime or misdemeaner– violated SF312?), maybe Hadley (just cause I can’t stand the look on his stupid face.) Then when GW goes to fill those positions, he offers up people just as bad or worse, and he can’t get them thru Congress, just like Congress cannot get the minimum wage law through him. It’ll get messy, but Congress needs to realize that they were elected to stop this Rogue President Who Would Be King!
ES,
Well, is some regards. We’ll have to see how happy the southern racists are with casting votes for Bobby Jindal.
Katrina also pulled the mask off of the Whitehouse too. They have been seriously off kilter ever since.
A pyhrric victory if they can pick up a senate seat and a governers seat at the expense of confirming how poorly they govern and how little a shit they give for the average and less than average folks.
-GSD
Ed*ard Teller @
85
Where is Jane? Home? Hospital? Does she get to see her poodles? Last we all heard, she would be in ICU for a few more days yet. There must be more of a scoop here. Trex, give, please.
Good to hear Jane is recuperating well.
-GSD
Great news of Jane, dear theropod! Betcha Cheney’s worried, if he knows Jane’s outta hospital.
punaise @ 91
I think it’s such poetic justice that most of the country actually placed the blame rightfully on the Federal government no matter how many times that slime Chertoff tried to tell folks it wasn’t his purview until after four days. “It’s not my job!” used to be a joke, but now it’s regularly asserted truthiness by those in high government positions.
punaise @ 91
Which is the only thing deserving of almost as much contempt, scorn and derision as a certain Senator of, shall we say, Independant means.
Well, the current ‘alleged’ U.S. Attorney General is rising, with bullet on that particulat chart.
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And I’ll add a JANE! to the mix. Best Wishes!
My congressman is having a teleconference town-hall meeting tomorrow night, and I’m planning on asking where Katrina recovery is on the agenda. I understand why it wasn’t in the “100 hours” (that was all stuff that had previously been introduced and not allowed to come up for a vote by the Republicans), but it needs to be a high priority.
Crooks and liars Jane update here
Also, John McCain is about to totally destroy his credibility by attacking General George Casey.
McCain will ruin whatever credibility he has remaining in his pallid, waxy self.
-GSD
Ann in AZ @ 98
Thanks Ann – especially appreciate your fine tag line:
“…Congress needs to realize that they were elected to stop this Rogue President Who Would Be King!”
TeddySanFran @
102
Something for Jane to watch, whilst recuperating: Bad Reputation
Meantime . . . five more American soldiers have been killed in Iraq.
I had failed to understand that when Bush talked about a “surge,” he meant a surge in the death toll. Not that it wasn’t inevitable. I just kept hoping for a miracle.
Senator Webb, never mind what Bush says in his SOTU farce. Go for his jugular. This useless slaughter of brave young Americans must be stopped.
767 candles in 27 countries!
GSD @ 107
I saw OldLord McCain on the Left Coast MTP rerun — does Pumpkinhead have that flattening-affect impact on everyone? OldLord seemed to be satelliting in from elsewhere & still wasn’t immune from the tamping-down effect of Timmeh.
…hello all you leftover blogghoppers! for the McCain lovers out there, here’s the astrological skinny on his chances of being First Nutcase. He won’t be, can’t be, he is a fading star about to leave the galaxy by way of poor, restrictive Saturn transits for the next year and a half rendering him unpopular, underfunded and seriously boring. But we knew that, right?
spiderpaws @ 113
SP – I’m a Leo, and Leos don’t believe in astrology, but I agree. He is also a total suck up. He was done when his kissed Chimpy’s butt after what Rover did to him in SC in 2000; he should have offered to step outside and whup his, but instead he licked it. Ewww.
punaise @ 91
With any luck at all and just a tiny bit of help from the all-knowing universe, Trent Lott’s porch will be built by the same sort of Republicans inhabiting the Bush administration….
Trent Lott’s Porch would look better on Planet Claire.
Mornin’, Firepups -
Too bad bush et al don’t spend as much time figuring out how to salvage Iraq as they do on the writing & presentation of a SOTU speech ;-(
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01…..peech.html
What *will* the week bring? Lots of good things if having Jane out of hospital is any indicator.
Waccamaw @ 117:
If he never practiced speechifying, turkey-carrying and rewritin’ the homework papers of spooks, why, he’d just be on permanent vacation like he was in his National Unguard days.
The speech writers can work as long and as hard as they want – it’ll still come out stilted, and sounding stupid.
Yeah, I bet it is.
Why don’t we ask Scotland Yard to have a look at the 2001 Anthrax case?
Good morning, pups. The NYT has Bob Herbert and Paul Krugman, both on health care. Bob Herbert points out that having to put health care costs on credit cards is a REALLY bad idea, and then Paul Krugman goes down the rabbit hole to look at W’s solution which, of course, isn’t one.
http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/
Time for my tea. Otherwise my co-workers will decide I’m unfit to live…
Good Morning, Firepups,
We’ve got sleet and freezing rain here in central Jersey today, and cold temperatures for the rest of the week. Winter has finally arrived!
Thanks for the great news about Jane going home from the ICU–and Christy on her way to DC to cover the trial.
Mr. NJP and I will be going to DC, too, for the big peace march on Saturday, January 27th. Any other firedogs going?
Since we don’t watch television any more, we’ll miss the State of the Union speech [besides, who can listen to WPE for any length of time?], and read it in the NY Times the next day.
Coffee’s hot, good strong French Roast for an icy Monday morning. I’ve got some nice drop biscuits coming out of the oven. Who’s ready for breakfast?
Work for peace, every day.
Good Morning, Marion!
Thanks for posting the link to Times Select. Krugman has written his usual terrific piece.
NJprogressive @ 122: I’ve got some nice drop biscuits coming out of the oven. Who’s ready for breakfast?
(raises hand from beneath the covers)
There’s nothing better than a glass of Jane’s-gone-home to kickstart the morning sunshine, but a cuppa French Joe and a hearty breakfast certainly adds to the main course.
Especially before reading that 62 more Iraqis and 2 more Marines aren’t going to be around to relish the prezimental SOTU.
Ed*ard Teller @
26
She just knew too much, drank too much, and threatened to talk. Poof! Bye bye, Martha.
Kevin H & Jacqrat -
Can’t you just see him sittin’ behind that big desk w/a red pen sayin’, “Nope, scratch that word; it’s got three syllables. Nope, cain’t say that….it’s the truth. Hmmm, never heard of that word before. OMG, that word’s got four syllables!” *g*
Waccamaw @ 117
Hey Waccamaw!
Am a bit anxious about Webb’s response, only hoping he will show as much cojones as he has in the past – hope he won’t let the moderates try to dilute his message. I say, let ‘er rip!
Sent you an e-mail – was so nice to meet you in person!
Off to work – checking back in at the office.
And speaking of food -
Has anyone heard of a dish called “cheese strata”? Consists of bread slices layered w/ cheddar & Swiss and soaked overnite in egg/milk solution prior to baking. First time the Food Lover’s Companion has failed me. Serving for breakfast to visiting company & would love to know derivation.
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Hi, Mandrake! Glad I refreshed before submitting. I am *so* looking forward to Webb; he’s gonna just knock the spit outta the park. S/b time for company to start stirring so may be later today if response needed.
Mornin’ all!
Bombs kill at least 78 people in Baghdad
The explosions left body parts strewn on the bloodstained pavement as black smoke rose into the sky. Iraqi police sealed off the area as ambulances rushed to the scene to evacuate the victims.
…I guess this is still the last throes?
g’mornin’ twolf1.
Waccamaw @ 126: OMG, that word’s got four syllables!” *g*
He can count to four??!!
Kevin – Well, now that you mention it………….four might be a little beyond his pay grade. *g*
twolf – “last throes” for at least 78 poor souls certainly. Do we need to start a guessing contest re. how many times he will mention the word “Iraq” tomorrow nite? Lots ‘n lots of terrrra, terrrrra, terrrrra I wager but very little big “I”. :-(
yes, ‘terra’ along with ‘freedum’. I hoping for a ‘peeance freeance’ but the odds on that one would be similar to the odds of Barbaro to win the 2007 Kentucky Derby…will he mention Katrina?
I, too, am looking forward to Jim Webb’s rebuttal to the idiot-in-chief. But I believe one thing — no one, not even the DLC, can tell Jim what to say. He probably won’t say the words “traiter” or such, but still…
It will honest, straight forward, and if we can’t recuit Schweitzer for prez, Webb is my next choice. Before he gets tainted by D.C. oh, that’s right, he has been there before. He is immune then. :)
Crikey, time to head to the mines. Keep Jane comfy and giggling, folks. Stay warm and keep yer anti-nausea meds handy for the SOTU.
twolf -
“Katrina”? Hell’s bells & codfish, darlin’; I’d bet my life savings that’s one word he’ll never say again in his life. Do they even write odds on something like that? “We don’ look back, donja know. Looking back is *so* Democrat.”
Later KH, have a good day.
For Mac OSX users – Bush Countdown
marksb @ 24
It’s not completely implausible, insofar as plutonium metal, for instance, is noticeably warm to the touch. It’s impossible to say anything definitive without knowing the mass of polonium involved. That said, everything I’ve heard about the likely mass of polonium involved suggests that it is too small to heat much. But I’ve not done the calculation.
new thread
Good Mornning Firepups!
twolf1 @
139
Ya gotta rub it in, eh? Using this XPprobox w/Firefox ain’t the same as my aged PB running Caminio (very old cpu wouldm’t support 10.3 and above so the version of Safari was liminted w/Google maps, etc)
First thing I downloaded was Firefox. Second was an XP version of something like your link. Backwards Bush.
Sorry folks, no link. Google might help ya find one. Iirc there’s a few out there.
Everybody’s counting.
Mornin’ Firedogs,
fyi – last year’s SOTU mentioned Iraq only 15 times, 7 of which were ‘generic’ – “Iraq and the Iraqi people”. yup, even the lizard brains knew things weren’t going swimmingly and thought it would be better to concentrate on switchgrass
TREX!!! Oh foo, I missed this thread!!! Have you been following Larisa on this? She’s still pretty skeptical, seems there’s a play on names involved that may have muddied the picture.
But it sure does look like the multiple poisonings theory held up, as does the oral ingestion theory.
The Scaramella poisoning needs to be looked at more closely, though, as do multiple but singular deaths of Russians. Too many heart attacks and bloody noses…
waccamaw…strata was originally an italian way to use stale bread. you can put many things in it… sausage, veggies,lots of herbs. it is best served warm, rather than really hot.
waccamaw..strata was/is an italian way of using stale bread. you can put just about anything in it..and it is best when warm, not hot.
verna @ 147
Professor Foland @ 140
I have.
It fails for two reasons: the amount of polonium needed for a lethal dose isn’t enough to heat a cup of water to that extent, and if you used enough to heat water that quickly, the heat it generated when packed in a vial would make the vial too hot to handle.