Here’s a question: when Cheney is on the stand, does Fitz address him as “Mr. Cheney” or as “Mr. Vice President?”

I’m still hoping he goes with “Vice President A”.

Seems pretty simple.

I’ll give an example;

I once had the pleasure of discussing memory management with the very person who wrote the code for microsoft (Landy Wang )

And, see, I would never have had that insight either.

I would have been too busy hitting her repeatedly about the head and shoulders with an olive loaf. “Hah! You call that MEMORY MANAGEMENT? HAH!”

-fred

Mrs. K8 says
January 19th, 2007 at 3:49 pm*

Since Fitzgerald has not closed the investigation yet, would he not be within his rights to call Cheney back to the grand jury (or rather, for the first time, since the Evil One got interviewed the first time at the WH) in order to follow up on any tantalizing tidbits of implicating material hinted at in the trial?

Claiming no special expertise, ya understand: (and in no particular order)

1. IF Cheney testifies (and I don’t think he will) his testimony will be small and tight – subject to very little cross from PJF because he’s not on PJF’s witness list. Now this raises many much more interesting questions – because if Cheney’s not on PJF’s witness list, it’s for a reason – not an oversight. There may very well be more on the horizon; otherwise, there’s simply no reason for PJF to keep Cheney off his witness list.

But my understanding is that he’s not on PJF’s witness list, but on Libby’s list, basically as a character witness, and also to put his imprimatur on Libby’s testimony about all the things he was so busy with. But if Libby brings him in as a witness, then PJF gets to cross-examine, right? And in cross, he can ask other bothersome questions, as long as they’re germane to the case, right?

2. To try to bring Cheny into direct investigation (into the grand jury process) – now that’s where the Executive Privilege thing comes into play. I say – that’s about 4 years of legal wrangling. Which of course means that the Bush adnmin will be long gone – as well as may be Cheney, given the fucker’s evil nature and unstable heart.

Not so fast. Remember, Nixon tried the same thing with Archie Cox (or maybe Jaworski), and they got expedited review by the SCOTUS against Nixon.. Remember, from Archie’s appointment to Nixon’s resignation was 16 months, and that includes everything– Saturday night massacre, Executive Privilege claims, SCOTUS review, everything.

3. Without Cheny on his witness list – PJF’s cross-exam is limeted very specifically to whatever the defense chooses to ask him. Which is to say – not much at all (remember – I don’t think Cheny’s gonna testify).

This sounds bass-ackwards to me, especially because I think Cheney’s on Libby’s witness list.

Furthermore, IMHO, Cheney can be called before the grand jury if PJF wants to. As Veep, however, Cheney requires special handling, as we have already seen in PJF’s past handling. This whole scenario changes, however, once Cheney sits in the witness stand. I think it opens things up. At, least, I’m hoping so.

Bob

The Iran-Syria Operations Group (ISOG) appears to be an extension of the Office of Iranian Affairs (OIA), which, in turn, is a reincarnation of the Office of Special Plans (OSP).

What Wilson did could not go unpunished. It was an extremely important project – smearing Wilson and blowing Plame’s cover. Wilson had very effectively questioned the credibilty of the case for war. The smear project trumped other projects that Scooter was concerned with because Dick ordered it thus.

I think it’s worse than questioning the credibility. Lots of people questioned to no avail. There were lots of news reports back on page 17 of the Post and Times.
The phoney intel was Cheney’s creation… he crafted it, he pushed it, he would brook no challenge… Wilson’s greater offense was to tell Cheney he had no right to create phoney intell. Wilson was defending Plame’s work over Cheney’s work.

VP office numbers more than two hundred
http://www.washingtonmonthly.c…..rozen.html

Glorfindel @ 73

Why was Libby the forward man supposedly dealing with this “important” stuff? Why was it his overwhelming responsibility, triggering the “I was busy” defense? Shouldn’t there have been more senior people working directly for the President whose job these items entailed? Weren’t there NSA’s who would outrank Scooter? Geez.

hackworth @ 101

P J Evans @ 94

Why do I have the feeling that the press passes are on the mantelpiece at Pach’s place?

If Scooter is busy enough to need Powerpoint to explain it to the jurors, he’s busy enough to have all of that stuff in his planner. If he has enough time to create a Powerpoint show (or have a peon do one, then see and and approve it), he has far too much time on his hands for someone whose defense is that he’s too busy to remember the stuff he was working on.

As a peon, I’ve spent the last twenty years remembering the stuff I’ve been working on, sometimes for decades. Scooter’s defense isn’t convincing to me.

Not convincing to anybody here. What Wilson did could not go unpunished. It was an extremely important project – smearing Wilson and blowing Plame’s cover. Wilson had very effectively questioned the credibilty of the case for war. The smear project trumped other projects that Scooter was concerned with because Dick ordered it thus.

Thanks very much for your responses.

I guess I just have a very deep yearning to see Cheney FORCED, for once, to answer questions about all his evil behavior — and not be able to weasel out of it.

Since Fitzgerald has not closed the investigation yet, would he not be within his rights to call Cheney back to the grand jury (or rather, for the first time, since the Evil One got interviewed the first time at the WH) in order to follow up on any tantalizing tidbits of implicating material hinted at in the trial?

Claiming no special expertise, ya understand: (and in no particular order)

1. IF Cheney testifies (and I don’t think he will) his testimony will be small and tight – subject to very little cross from PJF because he’s not on PJF’s witness list. Now this raises many much more interesting questions – because if Cheney’s not on PJF’s witness list, it’s for a reason – not an oversight. There may very well be more on the horizon; otherwise, there’s simply no reason for PJF to keep Cheney off his witness list.

2. To try to bring Cheny into direct investigation (into the grand jury process) – now that’s where the Executive Privilege thing comes into play. I say – that’s about 4 years of legal wrangling. Which of course means that the Bush adnmin will be long gone – as well as may be Cheney, given the fucker’s evil nature and unstable heart.

3. Without Cheny on his witness list – PJF’s cross-exam is limeted very specifically to whatever the defense chooses to ask him. Which is to say – not much at all (remember – I don’t think Cheny’s gonna testify).