Comments on: Sky Trip: Air Traffic Controllers Burned Out by FAA Rules http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:39:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jim H http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-461011 Jim H Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:50:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-461011 <p>While I’ve only been an active pilot for thirty years, I believe that the Comair/Lexington crash was entirely, 100% pilot error. He was cleared to a particular runway and went to a different runway. Unless you’re a lawyer, it’s that simple.</p> <p>If you ask a cop for directions and he tells you to go one block and turn left and you turn right, that’s just not his fault, nor is it his responsibility. At some point you need to be attentive enough to complete a task.</p> While I’ve only been an active pilot for thirty years, I believe that the Comair/Lexington crash was entirely, 100% pilot error. He was cleared to a particular runway and went to a different runway. Unless you’re a lawyer, it’s that simple.

If you ask a cop for directions and he tells you to go one block and turn left and you turn right, that’s just not his fault, nor is it his responsibility. At some point you need to be attentive enough to complete a task.

]]> By: Bush Administration attacking air safety « Later On http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460413 Bush Administration attacking air safety « Later On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:34:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460413 <p>[…] Posted in Daily life, Bush Administration at 8:32 am by LeisureGuy From Firedoglake: If you traveled over the holidays and made it back safely, thank an air traffic controller. The nation’s air controllers are doing a monumental job in the face of constant attacks by the Bush administration’s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). […]</p> […] Posted in Daily life, Bush Administration at 8:32 am by LeisureGuy From Firedoglake: If you traveled over the holidays and made it back safely, thank an air traffic controller. The nation’s air controllers are doing a monumental job in the face of constant attacks by the Bush administration’s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). […]

]]> By: egregious http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460197 egregious Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:49:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460197 <p>My sister-in-law was an air traffic controller pushed out by Reagan. She says it’s just scary what is going on now.</p> <p>Don’t they want anybody watching the planes? Do they really think there is no place for common action/government?</p> My sister-in-law was an air traffic controller pushed out by Reagan. She says it’s just scary what is going on now.

Don’t they want anybody watching the planes? Do they really think there is no place for common action/government?

]]> By: UnWell-Behaved Woman http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460176 UnWell-Behaved Woman Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:05:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460176 <p>Have you ever noticed how the worst, blatantly mediocre managers dress the most professional in business offices? It’s because they are trying to compensate for their lack of any business acumen. The worst-dressed manager and/or professional are usually the best at their jobs. I’ve noted this phenomenon for years, and shy away from any company 1) that has a dress code and 2) where the manager is dressed to perfection. To me, this is a clear sign of incompetence in legal, consulting and banking offices. NOTE: my observation does not pertain to any creative industry where one’s clothing and fashion must portray a unique or individualist image to gain respect and notice.</p> Have you ever noticed how the worst, blatantly mediocre managers dress the most professional in business offices? It’s because they are trying to compensate for their lack of any business acumen. The worst-dressed manager and/or professional are usually the best at their jobs. I’ve noted this phenomenon for years, and shy away from any company 1) that has a dress code and 2) where the manager is dressed to perfection. To me, this is a clear sign of incompetence in legal, consulting and banking offices. NOTE: my observation does not pertain to any creative industry where one’s clothing and fashion must portray a unique or individualist image to gain respect and notice.

]]> By: Mrs. K8 http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460077 Mrs. K8 Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:52:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460077 <p>Yikes –</p> <p>If there’s a mod here, please pull my last comment (my reply to Skeptic) out of moderation.</p> <p>I have no idea what could have triggered the filter. If a mod knows, please enlighten me so I can avoid any future difficulty.</p> <p>Thanks in advance!</p> Yikes –

If there’s a mod here, please pull my last comment (my reply to Skeptic) out of moderation.

I have no idea what could have triggered the filter. If a mod knows, please enlighten me so I can avoid any future difficulty.

Thanks in advance!

]]> By: Mrs. K8 http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460074 Mrs. K8 Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:48:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460074 <p><a href="#comment-459892"><em>Skeptic @<br /> 66 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Mrs. K8 at 49<br /> Please spend some time perusing flylady dot net. Flylady’s ideas may help send entropy’s forces right back out the door and help dull the edges of the double-edged sword of depression and fatigue. Yes, been there, done that. Got the cap and the T-shirt. Hugs to you.</p> <p>Not a ‘Skeptic’ where Flylady is concerned</p></blockquote> <p>Skeptic –</p> <p>That was very kind of you to post, thank you. I’m sure it’s useful to many, many people.</p> <p>That’s not quite my problem, though. It’s rather a physical disability (from a serious accident) which was getting better intially with a huge amount of therapy/work — but then turned around and took a big nose dive for the worse.</p> <p>It turns out that the trauma of the original accident plus the multiple surgeries (one of which was botched) caused injury to the lymphatic system — this is called lymphedema.</p> <p>One of its serious symptoms is sheer physical fatigue.</p> <p>I am doing everything to combat this new condition — and will be undergoing more testing to rule out damage to the (blood) circulatory system first, and then a full extensive program (involving daily wrapping of the limb, a period of daily manual lymphatic drainage massage by a certified specialist (at the only treatment center in the state, which thank God is not too far away), compression garments, and a special set of new exercises designed to promote the proper flow and processing of lymphatic fluid.</p> <p>Right now I’m using a wet-suit with diving shoes and gloves to swim in the backyard pool during cold weather — swimming is the best exercise possible for those with lymphedema. The water pressure on the body works like a full-body compression garment to stimulate the processing of lymph. Secondarily, I do the best land-based exercise possible — jumping on a mini-trampoline. This also forces the lymphatic fluid in the legs upward to the trunk for further processing (although it’s not the whole answer, as I’ve been diagnosed with a more serious development — truncal lymphedema [swelling of the torso] in addition to the leg).</p> <p>I look forward to the opportunity to get in for treatment — which will be coming up after all my tests are ordered, performed and evaluated. I hope the treatment will start in February.</p> <p>Thank you so much for thinking of me! I hope your link will be of help to others.</p> Skeptic @
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Mrs. K8 at 49
Please spend some time perusing flylady dot net. Flylady’s ideas may help send entropy’s forces right back out the door and help dull the edges of the double-edged sword of depression and fatigue. Yes, been there, done that. Got the cap and the T-shirt. Hugs to you.

Not a ‘Skeptic’ where Flylady is concerned

Skeptic –

That was very kind of you to post, thank you. I’m sure it’s useful to many, many people.

That’s not quite my problem, though. It’s rather a physical disability (from a serious accident) which was getting better intially with a huge amount of therapy/work — but then turned around and took a big nose dive for the worse.

It turns out that the trauma of the original accident plus the multiple surgeries (one of which was botched) caused injury to the lymphatic system — this is called lymphedema.

One of its serious symptoms is sheer physical fatigue.

I am doing everything to combat this new condition — and will be undergoing more testing to rule out damage to the (blood) circulatory system first, and then a full extensive program (involving daily wrapping of the limb, a period of daily manual lymphatic drainage massage by a certified specialist (at the only treatment center in the state, which thank God is not too far away), compression garments, and a special set of new exercises designed to promote the proper flow and processing of lymphatic fluid.

Right now I’m using a wet-suit with diving shoes and gloves to swim in the backyard pool during cold weather — swimming is the best exercise possible for those with lymphedema. The water pressure on the body works like a full-body compression garment to stimulate the processing of lymph. Secondarily, I do the best land-based exercise possible — jumping on a mini-trampoline. This also forces the lymphatic fluid in the legs upward to the trunk for further processing (although it’s not the whole answer, as I’ve been diagnosed with a more serious development — truncal lymphedema [swelling of the torso] in addition to the leg).

I look forward to the opportunity to get in for treatment — which will be coming up after all my tests are ordered, performed and evaluated. I hope the treatment will start in February.

Thank you so much for thinking of me! I hope your link will be of help to others.

]]> By: ken in michigan http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460021 ken in michigan Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:57:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-460021 <p>1year ago i loved my job! now im counting down the days untill retirement.</p> 1year ago i loved my job! now im counting down the days untill retirement.

]]> By: Coiler http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-459990 Coiler Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:24:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-459990 <p>Isn’t this whole mess a sign of trickle down economics gone shitty. The next thing we hear from these fools is to make the reckless tax cuts for the most wealthy permanent, yeah, that will solve this mess. $2 billion a week in Iraq and it isn’t going to stop any time soon, expect things to get way worse and probably never get better in most of our lifetimes.<br /> That is just the ugly reality of it all, the same delusional idiots are repeating past blunders but so far beyond what anyone could have imagined. The pain will endure for years perhaps into decades. The FAA is just one of a handful of agencies that are visible and critical to the public, some that are less visible are suffering the same fate of anti-government Bush appointees swinging the wrecking ball with glee. It is across the board gutting of all critical government function gone wild, and it will continue unabated until the new congress gets a spine and does some oversight.</p> Isn’t this whole mess a sign of trickle down economics gone shitty. The next thing we hear from these fools is to make the reckless tax cuts for the most wealthy permanent, yeah, that will solve this mess. $2 billion a week in Iraq and it isn’t going to stop any time soon, expect things to get way worse and probably never get better in most of our lifetimes.
That is just the ugly reality of it all, the same delusional idiots are repeating past blunders but so far beyond what anyone could have imagined. The pain will endure for years perhaps into decades. The FAA is just one of a handful of agencies that are visible and critical to the public, some that are less visible are suffering the same fate of anti-government Bush appointees swinging the wrecking ball with glee. It is across the board gutting of all critical government function gone wild, and it will continue unabated until the new congress gets a spine and does some oversight.

]]> By: darms http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-459985 darms Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:19:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-459985 <p>Not meaning to be snide or anything, I do know what it’s like to have but one skill that pays decent $$, but I got tired of my employer screwing me over and one day I walked w/o looking back. (No unions in TX) What keeps these ATCs on the job? Why don’t they quit? Leave the FAA (& the right-wing) to hang? Does the pay really warrant the abuse?</p> Not meaning to be snide or anything, I do know what it’s like to have but one skill that pays decent $$, but I got tired of my employer screwing me over and one day I walked w/o looking back. (No unions in TX) What keeps these ATCs on the job? Why don’t they quit? Leave the FAA (& the right-wing) to hang? Does the pay really warrant the abuse?

]]> By: Skeptic http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-459892 Skeptic Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:14:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/16/sky-trip-air-traffic-controllers-burned-out-by-faa-rules/#comment-459892 <p>Mrs. K8 at 49<br /> Please spend some time perusing flylady dot net. Flylady’s ideas may help send entropy’s forces right back out the door and help dull the edges of the double-edged sword of depression and fatigue. Yes, been there, done that. Got the cap and the T-shirt. Hugs to you.</p> <p>Not a ‘Skeptic’ where Flylady is concerned</p> Mrs. K8 at 49
Please spend some time perusing flylady dot net. Flylady’s ideas may help send entropy’s forces right back out the door and help dull the edges of the double-edged sword of depression and fatigue. Yes, been there, done that. Got the cap and the T-shirt. Hugs to you.

Not a ‘Skeptic’ where Flylady is concerned

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