Oklahoma kiddo @
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I adore baseball. And baseball’s heroes of yesteryear. Sadly, there aren’t many baseball heroes today. More sadly, where are baseball’s roll models for our kids now?

In Boston, wearing number 34.

There are quite a few, really. You just don’t hear about them.

I adore baseball. And baseball’s heroes of yesteryear. Sadly, there aren’t many baseball heroes today. More sadly, where are baseball’s roll models for our kids now?

In Boston, wearing number 34.

montag,
But, the main message has been, for a long time, get yours, and screw everybody else.

I’m hearing that from older people here in my town who consistently vote NO on school levies. “We don’t have kids in school and taxes are too high.”
I would really like to point out to them that these ‘kids’ are the ones who will be paying their Social Security.

Very selfish.

I know we’re epu’d, but — I have pointed out that very thing. The response is usually, {drawing self up self-righteously), “That is NOT true. We paid in for 30/40/50 yrs of working life, and we’re just getting it back!”

My republican mother believed this, the last time it came up. (OTOH, I’ve never heard her say she doesn’t want to pay for good schools)

I’m hearing that from older people here in my town who consistently vote NO on school levies. “We don’t have kids in school and taxes are too high.”
I would really like to point out to them that these ‘kids’ are the ones who will be paying their Social Security.

Very selfish.

BobbyG @
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Oklahoma kiddo @
70

AP – President Bush, facing opposition from both parties over his plan to send more troops to Iraq, said he has the authority to act no matter what Congress wants.

Democracy. Ain’t it swell.

Unless, ultimately, the Supreme Court slaps him down, he’ll simply continue to do as he pleases.
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I don’t think that will stop him either. But we have to do it to prove it won’t, and keep on until he does stop. Where there’s a will, throw enough mud, all that stuff.

There’s a milepost way up the road that marks the point where BushCo actions get us in so deep that it then might be unconstitutional to challenge him

Oklahoma kiddo @
70

AP – President Bush, facing opposition from both parties over his plan to send more troops to Iraq, said he has the authority to act no matter what Congress wants.

Democracy. Ain’t it swell.

Unless, ultimately, the Supreme Court slaps him down, he’ll simply continue to do as he pleases.
_

I don’t think that will stop him either. But we have to do it to prove it won’t, and keep on until he does stop. Where there’s a will, throw enough mud, all that stuff.

montag, We left off late last night (as usual) with part of the discussion about Israel asking for 30k NATO troops. Do you think NATO will say no?

Truthfully, I don’t know how that will play out. NATO has gone far afield by putting troops in Afghanistan, at US insistence, and things are not going well there. Would they be inclined to put troops directly into the problems Israel has created for itself? If the Olmert government presses Bush for it, and the US makes arms grants to some of the Eastern European new NATO members conditional upon their participation, it might happen.

That the Israelis are putting this suggestion up first tells me, though, that they don’t want to negotiate, except perhaps with Abbas, whom few of the Palestinians trust not to sell them out.

And, perhaps, Israel wants to reserve their own forces for yet another try at occupying southern Lebanon. If NATO gets even a whiff that that is their intention, they might well balk at the proposal, regardless of what Bush might want.

I guess, as with most things, we’ll just have to see what’s in the news, and whether or not a formal request of NATO is made by the Olmert government.

Tejanrusa OT but please help me with my SAD symptoms in rural MI. Cold, gray, and gloomy with the chance of just enough snow tonight to make tomorrow’s pre-dawn commute to metro-Detoit a blood curdling terror-trip. What’s today’s weather in Boerne? (Apologies to all for the OT.)

Where in MI are you, retirin’? My ‘official’ zip is 48060