
Sincerely. Before you took office, I was consumed by my own short-sighted personal interests and left political activism to others. After all, in the grand scheme of things, my vote and voice meant very little, and besides, I had to "put food on the family". But in the 2000 election the vote was too close to call. Less than 400 votes separated Gore and Bush in Florida, with several voting irregularities. Election night came and went, and in the morning, still we had no answer.
Days turned to weeks and the two candidates turned to the courts. David Boies argued for Gore and won a string of successes in Florida, causing the Bush camp attorney, Ted Olson, to refer to Mr. Boies as a "T-Rex of an attorney."
Politics definitely had my attention, and I started feeling guilty for not voting. Ultimately Bush the lesser would win by a single vote. His attorney, Mr. Olson successfully argued before the SCOTUS to stop the Florida recount and in a 5-4 decision installed by selection, instead of election, the President who would ignore the threats of terrorists allowing them to use airplanes to attack America. The one that slammed into the Pentagon was carrying Mr. Olson's wife.
Thank you President Bush, for showing me the power of one vote.
After seven minutes of stunned silence, you grabbed your bullhorn in the nick of time telling America your number one job is to keep us safe. Somehow, wondering around in the wreckage of your ignorance and arrogance did not seem like leadership, but hey, I guess all that Presidentin' is hard work. You roun up a posse and search for a tall tree and a short rope but can't seem to find the guy whodunnit. No sense in lettin' a good posse go to waste, so you shake and bake a bunch of undercooked intel and invade Iraq. You will never be found guilty of diplomacy, one only need to look at how you treat our diplomats.
Thank you President Bush, for showing me how important it is who I vote for.
Now your occupation of Iraq is going badly. Whodathunkit? Certainly not your rubber-stamp Congress (recently replaced btw). You continuously poked purple fingers into the eyes of your critics as evidence Iraqis want to throw off tyranny and replace it with freedom and democracy. We point to America's vote of November 7th as evidence of the same. Terms like "congressional oversight" and "separation of powers" and "judicial oversight" had no real world meaning to me, until they were non-existent. And the Constitution, which I thought was a bloodless document, is no such thing. When it is damaged, America herself is wounded.
Thank you President Bush for the civics lesson.
The Federal Government limits my employment to 70 hours in eight days, and I frequently bump this ceiling. Nevertheless, prior to the recent mid-terms found me pestering my neighbors to vote. I was dispatched 700 miles from my polling place on election day and threatened to quit. If both of my knees were shattered, I would have drug my unemployed ass across broken glass to cast my vote.
Thank you President Bush for giving me a passion for my country.
Fortunately, by taking advantage of early voting, I did not have to do that. On November 7th as I was driving to New Mexico, I called my neighbors and urged them to the polls. My goal was to vote and add three more. The final result was nine. I plan on making them lieutenants with orders to recruit three more new voters apiece.
Thank you President Bush for doing the impossible; you damn near organized the Democratic party.
Truly I don't think my education and motivation needed to be so costly for America. Curiously, you took your one vote mandate (and questionable re-election), lassoed the stalled Gingrich revolution pendulum, pointed your wagon toward the neocon vanishing point and commenced to mash that gas and tote that ass and brought down your own house. You spent all of our money, our kids money and even their kid's kids money. We got no street cred worldwide, our military is sucking wind, our spies are gun shy from shooterface guy and the whole world is heating up. And that's just the short list.
Thank you President Bush for being the poster child for why politics matter.
I've turned the corner towards '08 and set my sights on the blatant homophobe and science denier, Senator James "Baghdad Bob" Inhofe. With any luck, my nine lieutenants, or heros (inside joke) will throw in and we can get him bounced. The nightmarish beginning of this century and all the horrors that have occurred since has been due to one man and one vote.
Bring a friend.
What has Bush taught you?
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Bingo!
Deuce!
OFG!
Nice job OFG. Do you ever make it to Indiana?
OFG,! what a pleasant surprise.
now off to read. :)
Oilfieldguy fucking ROCKS!
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OFG- this is a great post. Your best yet at FDL. More later. xxoo
Twisted Martini @ 3
It’s been a long time. Do you still limit big trucks to 55mph or did they change that law?
Oilfieldguy @ 7
I think they actually increased it to 60.
Hey OFG ~~~~ FWIW
Bush has taught me to never trust the “government” and to listen to my gut, my heart and my head always when it comes to all things.
Bush has taught me that powerful men and women often do not care about loss of life, suffering, hunger, disease, and poverty and will do anything to anyone that gets in their way, including lying a Nation into war and killing hundreds of thousands.
Bush has reminded me that I love our Constitution more than ever and that saving it is of the utmost importance. He taught me to remain ever vigilant, always skeptical and very serious.
Bush has reminded me that lots of my fellow Americans are still very lazy and unconcerned with government and that they have used that to their advantage.
Bush has taught me that truly rotten and stupid people can make it to the top in America.
That’s just me getting started.
OKLAHOMA!
bush has taught me:
– presidents should have brains.
– the value of propaganda.
he’s also given me some empathy for the ordinary citizens living in Germany in the 1930s and 40s.
A Glimpse at America’s Brewing Nightmare with Iran
I suspect that we will soon see more collisions between US military squads and Special Force operations against suspected Syrian and Iranian convoys and personnel — civilian and military — inside Iraq as well as more border interdiction. At some point, these units will go into Syria and Iran to accomplish their “disruption” missions.
This is from Steve Clemons…a scary scenario
read the rest!!
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/
from below but its quite a read
angie,
I had been seeing a word used that I did not know its meaning. So I looked it up. It is a good word.
Namaste
You know, the Germans shot a bunch of convicts and put them in Polish uniforms to justify the invasion of Poland in 1939.
And I just saw FireDogs on the TV!
Clusterfuck taught me that when ya fool all of the people some of the time- eventually it’s a pretty small group of people.
OFG, this post kicks *ss. Thank you.
;) OFG.
Namaste.
whoa! sorry, OFG to go OT - Judge demands to know whereabouts of CO “suspects” in Swift raid
via Crooks and Liars and the Greeley Tribune…
Pach been around?
VG and BobbyG
Thanks for the flowers. My hat is off to Christy and Jane and T-Rex for doing this on a spectacular level consistently. I committed to this post about a week ago and have been in knots ever since.
Twisted Martini @ 16
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Goebbels
lina @ 13
I’ve got my own ideas, but lina’s got the current corner on succinct.
So, today Bush has been saying that his critics “have an obligation” to come up with their “own plan” for Iraq in order to not be “irresponsible.”
Like this prick would even consider anyone else’s ideas (he’s already dissed a host of them).
Moreover, his challenge was that the critics’ plans had to “have a better chance of success” than his.
First of all (misplaced burden of proof aside), like ANY of that is knowable in advance. But, what we do have empirically is his own sorry-assed batting-zero track record to date.
I can’t believe he gets away with even saying shit like that without getting laughed out of the country.
_
Hey RW, how ya hittin’ em?
OldCoastie @ 19
Anything related to the furtherance of our education regarding the Bush junta is not off subject.
OFG!! Great stuff.
EPU’d, Teddy needs a kos recommend:
TeddySanFran @ 120
Here’s cool: I looked it up and my daughter lives in Teddy’s district! That’s 2 more votes plus everyone they can contact.
Good luck Teddy!!!
btw - you didn’t need to be in knots, OFG - you did good.
…man o’ man…I finally won. I wonder what the prize is….one of those cool iPhones from the other day or,….wait, I know, it’s probably one of the wicked-cool laptops with Vista and a can of bug spray…..what am I gonna do with the prize money?…..this is the best post EVER!….
Excellent post OFG. It’s striking that my story on political involvement is so similar to yours. The point of ne return for me was the runup to the Iraq invasion. I had no idea what was not right but the whole thing didn’t make sense. I came into the research a blank slate and first discovered GoogleNews and that addictive search bar. My desire was the protection of my kids to keep them from being drafted into an illegal war for profit but it quickly evolved into a new life responsibility.
I remember the palpitations when I found the PNAC papers in 02 and nobody, I mean nobody would talk about them. In the MSM, when a brave soul would mention it, the spot would quick-cut to commercial and that guest was GONE on the return. I was actually F*ckin scared for what might happen to our world.
During that discovery of new daily outrage provocations, I realized that my life would be dedicated in some way to stopping that crew and being a watchdog voice for those unable to speak for themselves. I started early. not as early as you, but I’ve been a part of the change by letting them know that we know what they know. It’s the only way. I have respect where it’s warranted but I learned early from the BushCo threat to never be intimidated.
…the death threats in 03 were a cause for quiet reflection for a moment but that moment passed quickly.
rock on with your own bad self - post…yeah.
Very worthy goal–setting your sights on Inhofe.
Ignorant
Nasty
Ho
Oklahoma’s
Fuck
Everybody
OFG…your knots produced some good writing…keep it up. We like reading your comments too!
“hiccup”
excuse me.
:-)
goebbels again:
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”
About Iraq. Eventually we will leave. No matter how many Americans are killed, or how much treasury is lost, we will leave. To the majority Shia, it is there turn to lead and history must allow the Sunni’s to lose.
Nothing will change that fact.
Oilfieldguy @ 20
OFG- you did great. And, I know about the knots. You are braver than I am. The standard of posts here is so high, that I have never thought seriously about contributing. Your previous posts have been great, but this one is wonderful. Now, in keeping with the theme, I will have to think about what Bush has taught me.
I love the story about the Congressman getting in Rove’s face and running some smack. Good for him!
when shrub 1st took office I had hoped he would have a quiet, uneventful presidency with no major decisions to be made… I just knew he was stupid.
then 9/11 happened and OMG!
Fantastic post, OFG! Oh, and Esten!
yo, OFG!
Did anybody notice the sneaky way I got a plug in for Ambassador Wilson’s book?
OFG that was a nice picture with Valorie’s husband’s books on the table.
And what have I learned from my party (Dems) over the past six years?
BTW, and wholly off-topic:
I’m now up on MySpace, hanging out with the porno hustlers, exhibitionists, voyeurs, and other grifters (all really pretty funny) in an attempt to help hustle my friends’ great band.
See http://profile.myspace.com/bgladd
LOL!!
Maybe Charles “Cully” Stimson (are y’all hip to this cat?) can find a way to get me blacklisted from further employment and otherwise have DoD operatives fuck with me in light of my disdain for the Moron in Chief .
I’m at that age where I just don’t care any more. And the horse that comprises my views is WAY outa the eBarn, so WTF?
Like our Founders, we must all hang together, or we shall surely all hang separately.
_
Bring a Friend…
if Chuch Hagel is our friend, what should we ask of him… what did he mean when he said he would resist?
“I have to say, Madam Secretary, that I think this speech given last night by this president represents the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since Vietnam,” Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., said of Bush’s plan to add 21,500 troops to secure Baghdad in concert with Iraqi forces. “If it’s carried out, I will resist it.”
…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 41
That Karl can do this and the voting machines can do that and John Kerry can say the other thing, but if we all pull rilly friggin hard, we can squeak one by, even in spite of ourselves.
And that is good news by the way.
Oilfieldguy @ 34
yes.
someone recently pointed out that the U.S. got the same political deal in 1975 with Vietnam that it could have gotten in ‘68 - only with 30 thousand fewer dead soldiers.
Chuck Hagel is not running again - perhaps we can invite him over to our party for awhile…
Never, never, never let the Supremes decide who the president should be. Make sure all of the votes are counted. Work to insure this will happen.
ditto on that.
Great post OFG. Thanks.
I’m with ya OFG on this Inhofe idiot. What an embarrasment to Oklahoma and the nation. I remember when he was mayor of Tulsa- the very essence of corruption. Hope we drum up enough votes to counter the wingers in south Tulsa.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 42
well, I learned you can’t trust some of them either… some of them are just scared of speaking the truth and being at odds with this administration… no matter what. and others, well… you know; it’s that incumbency protection racket and power addiction, etc.
But we did do well in November. We must hold their feet to the fire and make sure to keep them accountable to US.
Appearing in The Independent is a story I found via Raw Story before this thread started. Although the following story about BearingPoint is more relevant to what was discussed in the previous thread, I think that it merits mentioning in this thread because of Bearing Point’s involvement with “advising the US government on the economic reconstruction of Iraq”, as the excerpt below from the story mentions, at a time when it was also encountering difficulty with keeping its own house in order.
How many other companies sought overseas work from the United States government in the hope that overseas work would enable those companies to operate profitably? Where did the pot of gold at the rainbow’s end appear to be?
It is hard to believe that a financial loss of the magnitude reported in the following story (a loss of $ 722 million on revenues of $ 3.4 billion) could befall BearingPoint, once the management advisory services component of KPMG (formerly Peat Marwick).
http://news.independent.co.uk/.....152438.ece
Suzanne @
18
[tsf clapping]
Thanks, ofg, for this terrific reminder. What has Bush taught me? To YELL LOUDER when I see the bad man.
Great post, OFG. Fansnarkin’tastic.
What has Bush taught me?
That the Constitution is more than a “goddamned piece of paper”*
Well, I knew that. More like, that the Constitution is as important as they told me it was in law school, only moreso. That those phrases you mentioned, ” Terms like “congressional oversight” and “separation of powers” and “judicial oversight” are more than a civics lesson, they are the fabric that holds us together as a nation.
That you can’t trust a Republican as far as you can throw him (well, I knew that too).
That the cold, dead fingers of Richard Nixon, J. Edgar Hoover and Joseph McCarthy have the supernatural power to reach beyond the grave and threaten to strangle us.
That degrees from Yale and Harvard do not necessarily mean diddly squat.
And a lot of other stuff like that.
Thanks for reminding me, OFG.
Have been missing you OFG,
Have known you were consumed if not just busy… but so glad you’re BACK
What has Bush taught me?
Bush turned this lifelong Republican into a progressive who votes for progressives.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 52
They SUCK.
oh yeah, what I learned? I learned to Google, remember and consider all things are possible.
…Hagel?..funny, that
(2003)
I also believe that all people are a work in progress and subject to change along the way. Bring ‘em on over.
I will keep the pressure on the Democrats. For I blame the members of my party for the trouble we’re in, far more than I blame the Republicans. I expect what we get from the GOP. I do not countenance timidity, or whatever, on the part of my party, which is supposed to be the ‘loyal opposition’.
Never let a man who signs death warrants to execute the developmentally disabled any where near the Oval Office.
neurophius @ 54
Back in the days of duck under the desk nuke drills I was not allowd to pass from eighth grade to high school until I could pass a Constitution test.
Bush has taught me that my school district had at least one shred of sense.
Oilfieldguy @
40
If one went to Central Casting to find a spy and her ambassador husband, I’m not sure one would come away with more attractive, intelligent, and engaging people than those two patriots. Nice of you to share that snap with us, ofg.
The Wilsons are at the vortex this oilcabal’s evil-doing. Now, with War on Iran brewing or underway, we see why outing Valerie Plame may have been of primary importance, with the added side benefit of blowback on a current critic, Joe Wilson, as well.
Thanks, egr! Looking forward to meeting the egrCa-Clan.
…oh, and:
Troops
Home
NOW
The LAST sane Republican: http://sonyclassics.com/whywefight/main.html
What has bush taught me?
Just how dangerous it is to let the people who “OWN” america,run america.The weathy in this country need to have a “haircut”,and some way must be found to limit their influence on politics.
Teddy,
I have not had the pleasure of meeting Valerie, but I have met her husband and he is just like a regular Joe, with some sense and class.
rumi at 29 …man o’ man…I finally won. I wonder what the prize is….one of those cool iPhones from the other day or,….wait, I know, it’s probably one of the wicked-cool laptops with Vista and a can of bug spray…..what am I gonna do with the prize money?…..this is the best post EVER!….
It’s a pony, of course.
Why do you think we all try so hard to be first?
Where shall I send your pony?
never trust a monkey
But will we learn this time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&eurl= (Iran edit)
Mary McCurnin @ 60
Not to worry.
I don’t think the Hague is close to the Oval Office.
In 2000 I thought, “Well, it’s only four years, what real damage can the jerk do?” So the first thing Bush has taught me: Never underestimate jerks!
I always thought that “it can’t happen here.” So the second thing Bush has taught me is, yes, it can happen here if we don’t work every minute to prevent it. I’m watching an administration that says it wants to export democracy to the world and the way I see it, that means, they’re taking away our democracy and pretending to send it somewhere else.
There is an international law — Crimes Against Peace — and I hope I see the day that Bush is in the Hague attempting to defend himself against those charges.
40 years since the “Be-In”
Bi-In Anniversary
twolf1 @ 67
… or anything else that comes outta OldBarbaraBush.
TeddySanFran @ 72
(making popping sound with mouth)
TeddySanFran @ 72
that is just WRONG on so many levels ick
Really great post, OFG. Only thing you got wrong was that Mrs. Olsen was NOT on the flight that crashed into the Pentagon. There was no plane.
I too thought that well, Fredo has some good people around, so it won’t be that bad. Man, was I wrong. NEVER AGAIN!
Thanks, OFG, for the pithy post!
Bushco has taught me the following:
1) That I still believe absolutely in all the values I believed in way back during early high school days (during VietNam - precociously activist) regarding social justice. The notion that people abandon their “liberal” views on social justice as they age is bunk, and is only true IMO if their values are superficial and adopted merely for purposes of peer popularity.
2) That digging into my family tree and discovering the presence there of Revolutionary War fighters and Union soldiers whose DNA was passed on to me has meant even more to me in these dark days of tyranny than I would have thought possible back in the days before the fragility of our democratic republic was so cruelly revealed to all those with eyes to see. [The positive traits in our history are more precious than ever before — although all one needs is a love of justice and liberty everywhere, no actual DNA-inheritance necessary!]
3) That is entirely possible for one’s outrage meter to be broken — then re-calibrated — over and over and over and over again.
4) That I will never, so long as I draw breath, refrain from resisting their evil.
OFG — Thank you for the opportunity you give us here to rev up the engines of our individual and community morale.
In Honor of San Francisco, Country Joe (substitute any old Texas rancher you can think of)
Superbush
Look, up yonder in the sky, now, what is that I pray ?
It’s a bird it’s a plane, it’s a man insane, it’s my President LBJ
He’s flying high way up in the sky just like Superman,
But I have got a little piece of kryptonite,
Yes, I’ll bring him back to land.
Said come out
LyndonGeorgie with your hands held high,Drop your guns, baby, and reach for the sky.
I’ve got you surrounded and you ain’t got a chance,
Gonna send you back to Texas, make you work on your ranch,
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
He can call Super Woman and his Super Dogs,
But it sure won’t do him no good,
Yeah, I found out why from a Russian spy
That he ain’t nothing but a comic book.
We’ll pull him off the stands and clean up the land,
Yes, we’ll have us a brand new day.
What is more I got the Fantastic Four
And Doctor Strange to help him on his way.
Said come out
LyndonGeorgie with your hands held high,Drop your guns, baby, and reach for the sky.
We got you surrounded and you ain’t got a chance,
Gonna send you back to Texas make you work on your ranch,
Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
Yeah, gonna make him eat flowers.
Yeah, make him drop some acid …
OldBarbaraBush
egregious @ 66
It’s a pony, of course.
Why do you think we all try so hard to be first?
Where shall I send your pony?
a PONY?
yay!
Maybe I should come pick it up. I don’t trust the BushCo crew that opens the mail to not keep my pony when they find it.
…I could loves me a pony
And I will never, ever vote Republican again.
Michael @ 74
hmmm… I see you share my skepticism about the events. However, apart from doubtful reports, Barbara Olsen has not been seen since. That does puzzle me.
Mary McCurnin @ 60
Oh yeah, I forgot that one.
Never let a sociopath take power.
Valley Girl @ 82
Yeah, a guy I worked with was on that plane also.
Valley Girl @ 82
She was reported to have been seen crossing a border in Europe when all hell was breaking loose here….in the summer of 05, I think it was.
I learned that the money party hates me.
Rajiv has a new article up on this administration’s continued and monumental f/u in tomorrow’s Post.
Too little, too late.
It’s a doozy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01372.html
What I’ve learned, I think, is that I can still be amazed at the lack of skepticism of the American public, and at how easily they can be led completely astray by empty rhetoric and the phoniest sort of patriotism, and how unwilling they are to challenge either their own opinions or conventional wisdom.
George Bush and his PR people have managed to substitute slogans for policy (how could people not suspect that was the case with all those expensive blue backgrounds at every photo-op, with the slogan of the day repeated over and over and over?), and yet, most of the country never seemed to notice–that is, until Hurricane Katrina.
But, people are wising up. That’s good. Now we need a steady parade of whistleblowers to come forward to reinforce the suspicions that are just now beginning to percolate in the general public.
When the general public really starts to get it, they’ll be more likely to hold the Repugs and Democrats alike accountable for their individual and collective failings.
I, too, thank President Bush from the bottom of my heart for giving me so much incredible writing material. God, what if Gore or Kerry had won, even though they actually did win? We’d be scroungin’ hard to find good material. But, despite ruining the Constitution, the Country, the Economy, Iraq, the Middle East, the Armed Forces, and pretty much the entire Globe, oh yeah, and the environment, George Bush has been a Godsend, and surely closer to Jesus than almost anyone. Bottom line: W is certainly MY personal Savior.
twolf1 @ 78
One of Tom Brokaw’s favorite stories is sitting with Jimmy Carter’s mother, watching him take the oath of office.
Tom looked at President Carter’s mom and said:
“How very proud you must be of your son.”
She looked at Tom with dreamy eyes and a big smile and said:
“Which one?”
Two very different mothers, wouldn’t you say?
What’s the over/under on fellatio for tomorrow’s heads on sticks shows?
Rotsa ruck
montag @ 88
Terrific post, Oilfieldguy.
It’s sad to say, but I don’t think the Bush Administration has taught me anything I didn’t already know. I’ve seen and read enough history and dystopian science fiction to know that this really could happen here. I didn’t know if it would be in my lifetime, but I assumed it would happen sooner or later.
I suppose the only thing Bush has really taught me is what a bad idea it was to invade Iraq. That’s something, I guess.
Rumi 229
My desire was the protection of my kids to keep them from being drafted into an illegal war for profit but it quickly evolved into a new life responsibility.
RUMI, my desire is that my grand children be protected (learn how to protect themselves)… only one of my two children “voted the right way” and I’ve learned that politics is a generational project.
I regret not spending more time with my fragile, now conservative child. Of all the academic tests I helped him ace, I did not spend enough time on the humanities.
Moderator(s) - I can’t pinpoint the location of an open italics tag which has italicized the text of all the comments in this thread prior to comment 90 at 7:10 pm.
[Mod Note; Thanks for the heads up. Please refresh all screens.]
rumi @ 84
Spurious report. Trust me, the source is a wacko, and the facts in his original report were so wrong that they had to be made up (caught with suitcases full of Italian lire, when Italy had converted to the Euro years before, had her crossing the “Austrian-Polish border” when Austria and Poland don’t share a border…).
Don’t believe everything you read on the internets–especially from Tom Flocco.
Great post, OFG
I learned that mid-terms, and who gets elected to obscure state offices, really matter. Unbeknownst to all of us, the 1998 mid-term that installed Jeb Bush and Krazy Katherine Harris in office was probably one of the most pivotal mid-term elections in history. Who could have anticipated that it might really, really matter who the Florida Secretary of State and Governor were? I will never underestimate the importance of an election again.
Read body language and pay attention to it.
Do NOT go with the flow (the post-9-11 “Oh well, here he’s being pretty good, let’s give him a chance”). Never give someone a chance who sets off your personal BS meter.
OFG, good job!
I think the missing “end italics” command is at the end of the word “kittenstomper.”
[Mod Note; thanks estiv. You were correct]
Boycott the FOX series 24.
rumi,did you possibly use italics in your comment?
Or maybe it’s from the last line in OFG’s post…
People, refresh, should be ok from here.
Never, ever trust a Bush.
Pay attention to all the news in the world and never, ever trust our media alone.
Oh, and long live the internet!
Absolutely fabulous post, OFG. You rock!
Ted Olson’s wife is as dead as Julius CeasurOn the plane that pounded the Pentagon.
I spent many years trying to reconcile my feelings about Vietnam. I went, actively opposed it when I got home and ended up finding that I gravitated to other vets regardless of out politics. At the 10th Annivesary of the Wall I heard Rocky Blier say, “We we grunts, bakers, chopper pilots, truck drivers. . .but man were we scared. But now we are together and no matter how we felt about the war we are together now”. George, and the last presidential election, taught me that it was total bullshit. No one changed their mind or softened their postition. When push comes to shove the fucking right wingers will do anything to preserve their power.
Thank you, Oilfieldguy, for showing us about learning from our mistakes. God knows I’ve made enough of them myself.
Whether we drive a truck or a trike, whether we’ve got a PhD or a GED, whether we’ve got an oval office or a square cubicle, we’ve got to get out there and speak up.
And if you can vote, vote.
snuffy @ 64
It’s very simple.. just tax the rich. BTW all that talk about rich guys investing in America? Bullshit!
Hey, I have both, a GED and a PhD (well, acutally an EdD) and a 66 chevy truck!
Peterr @ 105
raven @ 107
A ‘66? Big block or small block?
I have nothing to thank Bush for. But the people that voted for him twice can thank this individual for over 3,000 dead American soldiers, God knows how many wounded, and for over 1/2 a million dead Iraqis. And the Democrats who supported this man in his madness, share equally in the responsibility.
montag @ 87
I have seen this type of thinking before, and indeed have been guilty of it myself. It is the painless way to dismiss progressive losses on the ignorant public.
It is more about passion. Republicans vote. It helps when they have shiny and simplistic talking points to cover for racism, homophobic and elimination of women’s rights. Their vote is virtually automatic.
Ours is not. This is why I feel the work that Christy and Jane and Pach, with the T-Rex supplying the pump, in the simple effort to get folks like me to do something.
Write a letter to the editor. Start a dialogue with your local and state reps staffers. Get to know them. Decisions are made by those who show up.
We haven’t been showing up. It is simple math.
Thanks, OFG
Valley Girl @ 82
Witness protection program.
you know what we’re missing?
we’re missing a word from the good general shinseki on what he thinks of this 20000 soldier escalation
we need to make his opinion known
Put a 350 SBC crate motor in it 2 years ago and just replaced the old 3 speed saginaw. I haven’t had synchro in 1st gear since Reagan was president. I stayed with a 2bbl and a regualr distrbutor. Painted it John Deere Blitz Black last year and put Smithy’s mufflers on it a while back. She gets up pretty good for what she is!
Peterr @ 105
A ‘66? Big block or small block?
OFG, what a tremendous post. I’ll be forwarding it on, if you don’t mind.
What have I learned in the past six years? First of all, I read Molly Ivins’ book “Shrub” shortly before the election of 2000. I was appalled at what I read. Surely this man would never be president. I tried to warn those we knew. Their comments on the subject were like so many we’ve read — it’s only four years. He can’t be that bad. He’d be fun to have a beer with, right?
I will regret for the rest of my life that I did not have the adequate words or persuasive powers to make them understand that I’d seen a glimpse of the trainwreck that was barreling down the tracks towards the White House, and this was long before September 11th.
If there is another thing I have learned, it is now all of our responsibilities to ensure that nobody with the surname of Bush ever holds elected office in this country again. The country can’t survive it.
-S
raven @ 107
Good for you - GED and EdD has got to be an unusual combination. Probably made for some interesting conversations with your EdD classmates, and gave you quite a take on education in general!
Wow… Great post! Very intelligent and concise and snarky all at the same time…
Yea, my dissertation was a qualitative study (sorry bean counters) of GED grads here in Georgia. I was interested in why the quit,why they went back, and the meaning they attached to the experience. It was a trip doing the interviews because they knew I had a GED and it was very interesting to them that I was doing what I was doing. I guess the thing that struck me the most was, in spite of evidence to the contrary, most of the folks I worked with believed education would lead to a better life for the (or at least their kids). Sort of like FDL folks thinking things will change in America!
Peterr @ 105
Good for you - GED and EdD has got to be an unusual combination. Probably made for some interesting conversations with your EdD classmates, and gave you quite a take on education in general!
BobbyG @
57
They SUCK.
Whirledview had a nice post on how, beyond the military war profiteering, there’s been a lot of outsourcing of State’s jobs, and has plenty to say on BearingPoint.
I also happen to think Bush has advanced the GLBT agenda a great deal. Can anyone think why I would think this? (Hint: It is very Orwellian in nature)
Strategerie @ 115
Strate -
Your vocabulary and persuasive powers had nothing to do with Shrub’s occupancy of the People’s House and everything to do with the Supreme Court and cancerous corruption of the fascist Republican plumbersII in brother Bush’s Florida.
From George Clearing Bush I learned that you cannot fence in a 2,000 mile border with a 700 mile fence.
Bush taught me that (in the internet age) just about anyone who makes an effort can have an impact on the political debate in this country.
Think of it….without Bush, there would probably be no Bev Harris, no Marcy Wheeler, no Kos–and no Yearly Kos and no Siun” doing media relations first for Yearly Kos and now for Marcy’s book. IMHO, Bush was the catalyst that has lead to the empowerment of hundreds of thousands of individuals who have decided to do something — people like Spocko. (And from a personal perspective, without Bush, I never would have examined Florida election law or Bush’s military records…)
OFG - Fantastic post. You take ole Inhofe and I will take on Pryor then what do ya say, lets go fishing.
Right now I feel like what most people are learning are the same things one learns in jail. How to be a more devious criminal, all others be damned.
I learned that we must have thorough questions and demand verifiable answers from our candidates.
Just the top ten tabs I have set aside today are enough to make our founding fathers blood boil.
After we rid ourselves of these fascits we will need to clean house for decades.
I think we need to demand public only campaign finance and all campaign video should be in a very rough black and white with no flags or reference to god allowed. (especially when speaking of war)
I learned my observations or intuition about Bush (both of them) was as bad as the imagination I tried to shrug off. It’s almost a burdon sensing this so far in advance of many others.
I learned so very much and do need to make a list someday but I cannot shake the urgency of the situation we find ourselves in right now. People are finding comfort in their memories of the cuban missle crisis, viet nam, and ducking under their desks in nuke drills for christ sakes!
I have learned, I believe, that until we exercise our right to assemble, frequently and in large numbers, we will be bombing and shooting lots of innocent people and allowing these thugs to circle the wagons on their own people.
I have learned elastic has nothing on our constitution. But the power of ignoring the constitution has devastating results.
Valley Girl @
82
Unknowns I have no expectations for (sorry Michael, maybe you’ve been around a while but I’ve not seen you before), but you, VG? I’m disappointed. There were hundreds of eyewitnesses to the Pentagon attack, and I found it very easy to dig up more than one friend-of-a-friend who had. Probably you would, too.
I know you don’t believe the moon landings were staged…
Great post, OFG. In 04 I only got 3 fellow okies to vote, but in 06 I ‘forced’8 family members in AZ to vote because I am feeling just like you!
Olsen called her husband from the plane, right?
I remember the lovely Mrs. Ted Olsen. She used to make the talk show circuit with the old “bait the Democrat” schtick. Maybe her disappearance was Teddy’s pay off…
Oilfieldguy @ 109
Maybe. How do you explain 2004 and 2006, then? 2004 was one of the biggest turnouts in decades, and many of those were new voters. 2006 was one of bigger turnouts for an off-year election, and the results were quite different from 2004.
Changing people’s minds also counts–I think that’s part of what happened in 2006. That’s why I mentioned whistleblowers. They, with some assistance in Congress, can change a whole bunch of minds. People don’t like having their money wasted (or stolen, or handed out to cronies for political favors, etc.), and that can have an impact.
Getting more people out to vote is absolutely necessary, but in order to do that, a lot of people have to be convinced that it’s worth it, that tangible results can be expected from that effort. Right now, there are more non-voters than registered voters, and those are people who have come to think that nothing they can do will change the system (or, have come to the view popularly espoused, cynically, as “don’t vote for `em, it only encourages them”).
What changes the minds of those with changeable minds is seeing some positive results. Dems have to show the public that they’re determined to do just that, and that’s going to involve exposing some very seamy stuff which also might expose some Dems. After all, what sort of indignation has shown up here, for example, when Lieberman said he’s not going to bother with investigating the government response to Katrina?
Oilfieldguy @ 120
You’re right, in that rational people who might be puzzled by, or even opposed to, gay marriage on personal grounds are unwilling to be associated with Fred Phelps, James Dobson, and George W Bush. Not wanting to be mistaken for crazy fundies, these folks “on-the-fence” lean more towards a live-and-let-live attitude about gay rights and gay marriage. Usually, these people can be tipped to outright support when they learn someone they know is teh BLGT.
Professor Foland @ 125
Prof- I was not commenting directly on the specific Pentagon attack, but rather, conveying my general suspicions that we have not gotten the full story on 9-11
The part included in the post relating to the Olson’s was to put a very fine point on no tragedy ever enters into your house that you did not open the door for.
I wonder what goes through his mind, late at night during his thousand yard stare into his glass of cognac.
Very well said, OilFieldGuy. You speak for many of us, and your personal example helped get me off my complacent ass. You have a lot more than nine to your credit. Thanks.
Oilfieldguy @ 131
Probably doesn’t hit him at all. She was his third wife, and he’s been bopping around with new flames lately.
Remember those Republican values….
Valley Girl @ 132
My faith in you is restored :)
Little rough don’t ya think?
Probably doesn’t hit him at all. She was his third wife, and he’s been bopping around with new flames lately.
Remember those Republican values….
raven @ 135
Nothing less than deserved.
For those of you interested in the California Delegate process, dday won (after being dissed by an LATimes “blogger”) his election today !!
Here’s his report on the fun day, with a video of his speech.
TeddySanFran @ 131
That coupled with most people don’t like bullies. I don’t care how much lipstick they put on that pig, it is gay bashing. Not to mention putting the issue front and center nationwide. Now we have a “been there, done that” attitude. Move on to the poor and environment.
Hell, even the military is saying they don’t care if you are a flaming fairy, just as long as you can shoot better’n Bill, they’ll take ‘ya. That, my friend, is an endorsement–or out another way foist by his own petard, in a rilly wierd sorta way.
OK, I didn’t realize who they are (were). The hazards of multi-tasking during the last 3 minutes of a 3 point game. My bad.
montag @ 137
My relief is here.
new thread
montag @ 96
Yeah, I remember that original story being seriously flawed like the original snippets coming out of so many others, the leak and betrayal of a covert CIA agent….never did get that one straight.
I don’t believe everything I read on the internets even on sites I trust. :-)
D your own searches of related events pertinent to that time. It could be a coincidence that new policies/systems were being deployed in that region then. Things like biometric ID, new warrant policies for intl crimes, tougher screening for anti-terror suspects partly due to the 7/7 event a few months earlier…
I can also remember (unrelated) people discounted the sources and possibility when I suggested reports that BushCo was heading us to war on claims of some drunk informant named “curveball”….I know it sounded ridiculous.
The only thing I know about the truth is we still ain’t got it.
I’ll be looking forward to your next post Oilfieldguy. No pressure. Anyway, really terrific tonight, thanks.
Professor Foland @ 135
Thanks Prof. Perhaps my original comment was too cryptic.
How best to explain what a fabulous education I’ve been given courtesy of President Small Penis? It began, of course, with the spectacle of doing anything to win while saying that the other side–which was oddly hesitant by comparison–would do anything to win.
From this I learned that accusing your opponents of your own crimes was a winning strategy.
My next lesson came on August 9th, 2001. It was my 15th wedding anniversary, and my husband was a new quadriplegic, having broken his neck in a skiing crash that spring. Because his injury was still so new, he was kind of frail–you might say that he resembled his own great-grandfather in terms of energy, strength, and vitality. That evening I was worried about him because it was about 90 degrees out, and quadriplegics do not sweat below the level of their injuries. True fact. So, along about dinner time, President Small Penis got on the tube from his vacation location down in Texas and told us that all the research projects that he had halted at the NIH would now be allowed to go forward, but only on a very, very limited basis. The sound of scientists ripping up their grants could be heard throughout the land; everybody knew that the restriction to existing stem cell lines was buckshot in the face of progress. So to speak. I think after that little speech, President Small Penis probably went out and sweated freely while riding his bicycle around his “ranch”.
I learned from that evening that I would have to work harder at two things: the first was controlling my temper. The second was more energetic participation in local politics.
Thank you so much for that kick in the teeth–er, pants, President Small Penis. I hope your next two years are filled with sleepless nights. I hope your sweat is the sour sweat of fear, because you know that we’re all out here watching you and laughing at your stupidity and waiting for the day you get the hell out of our White House.
egregious @
113
No, they’re dead - just where we don’t know.
Avigdor Lieberman: 30,000 Nato Troops Needed in Gaza
23:45 Jan 13, ‘07 / 23 Tevet 5767
(IsraelNN.com) After meeting with Foreign Minister Tsipi Livni Saturday night, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice also met with deputy Defense Minister Efraim Sneh and Minister for Strategic Threats Avigdor Lieberman. Taking a somewhat less optimistic tone than Livni, Lieberman reportedly told Rice that it was just a matter of time before Israel would be forced to go back into Gaza.
When Israel does undertake to re-enter Gaza, Lieberman said, it would be done in an “organized, methodical manner,” and attempt to achieve specific goals, since there was no point to the current policy of conducting occasional forays to attack targets on a one-shot basis, Afterwards, Israel would request that 30,000 NATO troops take control of the Strip in order to ensure that the situation does not deteriorate further.
http://www.israelnationalnews......?id=119355
I have learned how few people can lift their heads up from their everyday lives enough to see what’s going on around them.
Oilfieldguy @ 133
Maybe he asks himself if God has a sense of humor . . . Barbara Olsen’s hit piece book about Hilary Clinton was called “Hell To Pay.”
egregious @ 113
That’s my hope for the good HST but I have to believe Ken Lay is measuring for drapes for BushCo in Paraguay.
njr - I understand. I would feel better had mine listened a little more. They are as they get older though.
ccmask @ 148
NATO and the US needs to say no! Definately not now, if ever.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 153
double ditto on that!
Not ever and not in my name.
What has Bush taught you? -oilfieldguy ( With a handle like that..I dunno who messes with a oil worker? ) ;)
But I do have a list of hundreds of things I learned..
1) Bush is a family man.. We take care of the family..’wink. wink’ ( who else here doesn’t pray the Sapranos is better this season? )
2) Bush knows Madison Ave.. ( We have a Big, Big tent.. great background sound track..Are ya feeling it?)
3) Bush is doing God’s Will ( How is that lack of voting in 2000 feeling now OLF?)
4) Bush..our greatest president
( I’ve known my whole life that the greatest presidents of all time were democrats. Bush getting elected only confirmed the obvious…duh?)
5) Bush has a plan.. ( don’t worry if he doesn’t..somebody round the house does.)
6) Bush can see Black and White. ( The world, believe it or not ) is multicolored and deeply complex. There are shades of grey..and can I say without offending anyone? There are shades of black..shades of gray.
7) Bush… ah what the heck..you get the idea..I’ve got hundreds..
I have learned that it is really hard to change people’s minds about things that are connected to religion. And I learned that good propaganda can connect almost anything to religion.
That’s why I go to Church once in awhile but not religiously.
“Flaming fairies” that can shoot: OK.
“Flaming fairies” that can translate Arabic, Farsi, Persian: Yer outta here.
[can we say “flaming fairies?” well, if the main poster sez it, I guess I can. treading carefully….]
OFG, great post. Glad to see you around the Lake.
A friendly reminder to those it may concern that changing screen names is called sock puppetry and is a big time no-no at FDL.
Enough said.
rumi @ 80
a PONY?
yay!
Maybe I should come pick it up. I don’t trust the BushCo crew that opens the mail to not keep my pony when they find it.
…I could loves me a pony
What Bush has taught me–That with all the horsesh*t I’ve heard in the last 6 years, there must be enough ponies for everyone! Yeah! Free ponies for everyone!
Oh..whoops
That would be me..NapaValleyguy is Billy Boy.
I’ve only been doing this a few weeks..Sorry.
Sorry mod.
Kristine @
160
How will we ever keep them all fed?
rumi @ 163
Rumor has it there may be a ranch in Crawford available soon…
OK, I realize that last post sounded really creepy, and I didn’t mean it to be. I was just responding to some postings I had read about Bush possibly purchasing a ranch in South America, so I presumed he’d be puting his old place up for sale. A thousand appologies, especially to any alphabet soup agency (FBI, NSA, etc.) that might be monitoring.
Really, I’m a nice person once you get to know me. Just a little socially awkward. Now if you’ll excuse me while I try to do the bloging equivalent of removing my foot from my mouth.
I just wonder how Ted Olson is able to live with himself after indirectly causing the death of his wife on 9/11?
You see, Olson argued before the Supreme Court in 2000 on behalf of George W. Bush, thus making it possible for Bush and Cheney to steal the presidency. Steal? Per the U.S. Constitution, the State of Florida (and it’s Supreme Court) were the court of last resort involving any Florida electoral disputes, which means that the wingnuts on the U.S. Supreme Court illegally interjected themselves into a dispute which the Florida Supreme Court had already ruled upon.
But the wingnuts on the Supreme Court interceded on behalf of Bush and Cheney with Olson arguing their illegal case, thus stopping the legal Florida recount…which would have awarded the presidency to a highly competent and highly sane Al Gore.
But Ted Olson got the wingnuts on the Supreme Court to rubberstamp an illegal Bush/Cheney administration instead.
Then, about nine months later, Olson’s wife died on the hijacked plane that al Qaeda terrorists divebombed into the Pentagon.
Nine months in which the Bush/Cheney administration blew off the al Qaeda terrorist threat to our nation. Nine months in which the Bush/Cheney administration held only ONE cabinet-level, counter-terrorism meeting, ONE week before the 9/11 attacks.
In contrast, the Clinton/Gore administration held cabinet-level, counter-terrorism meetings three times a week, at which administration “principals” met and discussed stopping any terrorist attacks on the United States.
Thus, one could say that Ted Olson’s defense of the Bush/Cheney cabal before the Supreme Court led to his wife dying on one of the hijacked planes on 9/11, because I just bet that a President Al Gore would have been much more diligent and vigilant in addressing any al Qaeda terrorist threat, possibly even thwarting the attacks on 9/11…unlike the “asleep at the wheel” Bush/Cheney administration.
Of course, Ted Olson has probably tried to convince himself that his helping put Bush and Cheney in the White House illegally didn’t lead to his beloved wife’s death because no one could have possibly foreseen a domestic attack by al Qaeda, even as evidence to the contrary has piled up.
I actually feel sorry for the guy.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 124
Eureka Springs, AR @ 124
HEAR, HEAR! Just wish someone would explain to me why impeachment remains a whisper, at best. IMHO neither Bush nor Cheney dare not make a deal to resign. Fitz will prevail and expose Cheney’s crime/treason outing Plame nee Wilson. Dead Eye Dick will make the best deal he can and clutching his black dead heart, forced to resign his office. Bush will appoint some Neo-con to finish Dick’s term.
Would it not be wise to demand the new House fast track Bush’s Impeachment as Fitz’ Libby trial unfolds and forces Bush’s resignation, thrusting Cheney to briefly occupy the Oval Office? Speaker Pelosi ascends to the VP office. The House promptly raises the Impeach Cheney flag for his treasonous outing of a classified CIA agent, forcing his resignation. President Pelosi restores dignity, honor and intelligence to the Oval Office and brings our kids home from war sooner than later.
What say you?
Help get this right-wing fool thrown off the air!!!
Didn’t CNN get the message from the last election….that the American public has rejected the right-wing extremist agenda?
Why is CNN giving prime-time every night to the ultra-right-wing extremist, Glenn Beck?
Please take just 10 seconds to click on this link and send a message to CNN telling them we don’t want the airwaves innundated by this idiotic
low-grade right-wing propaganda!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?69
I know I’m way EPU’d - unavoidable circumstances kept me very late from the keyboard. Hoping you’ll look in, OFG–(thoughtful pause)
trying to think of words of praise for your piece that haven’t already been said…
Drat, is 2:30 am and my brain is fried….just want to let you know those”knots” of yours paid off - your piece is terrific. I’m thinking of printing it out and taping it by my mirror, to remind me every day to get past my lack of energy etc (long list of excuses) and DO MORE THAN VOTE.
Inspiring.
And also - emphatic YES to defeating Inhofe. very good goal.
I didn’t vote for Bush either time, but the moment that hit me the hardest was the morning I learned that Bush had allowed listening in on American’s phone calls without warrants. I have taught for 30 years, and always begin the day with the Pledge and a patriotic song. As my class was singing “My Country ‘Tis of Thee” you know, sweet land of liberty, fathers died, pilgrims pride, let freedom ring…I actually cried. It made me go to work for the good party, not just vote.
newspaperbrat - I am not an alarmist person by nature but ..If ever we were on the precipice of a (perhaps preventable) global disaster it would be now. It’s a national security matter that congress must handle. Awkward, yes but, hello?
The list of impeachable offenses is so long and the danger so grave, urgent action on ending this war and the Bush / Cheney rein should be the only matter on the table, imo.
With Lieberman holding the trump majority card and Johnson recovering from a stroke (or something awful) the time to act is now. Stop funding almost everything except essential pay and services, pass the Kennedy bill, start multiple hearings, hope Fitz maintains a lot of attention particularly on Cheney. The Libby trial will move to slow to help us escape war with Iran. The House needs to work overtime as you suggested!
Israel will provoke the hell out of the situation before they let US neo-cons slip away. They are already calling for 30k NATO troops to move into the area. I sure hope NATO says no! Not now or anytime soon.
With an order already signed by Bush per Iran, congress should only be considered complicit if they don’t act now. Why aren’t they in session this weekend?
I saw good signs this week but like so many of us I don’t feel safe at all. I cannot imagine how a few dozen other countries are feeling or what they may be considering because of the new threats by Bush.
One of the many things running through my mind is that when a Bush makes a threat it’s probably already happening and it always happens in the middle east this time of year. (largely due to weather conditions)
Our civil liberties alone are more important than the office of the President. This whole cabal of neo-fascists are completely nuts and we risk everything for treating this as just a couple of rogue characters in a short term position who would never do thaaat.
Yes, the time to act is right now and I don’t mean on meet the depressed in a few hours!
Yes, President Pelosi would be best but President anyone but the top three Bush, Cheney, McCain would be fine for now.
Bush has taught me 2 things:
1. To be fearful. (Which, I’m really not. I’m very active in the Progressive movement. Probably out of spite).
2. And, I didn’t need THIS message , but others did - that President’s DO matter.
Ralph (I used to like you), you did more damage in the 2000 campaign than any other 3rd party candidate in history. I hope you take pride in that. It takes some hard work for an idiot to make an imbecile the President of the US. I hope you’re proud…
BTW, wasn’t it the Republican’s who used to be FOR CIVIL LIBERTY’s?
Sorry, maybe I’m wrong…
Nice work OFG. I look forward to plenty more. FDL is well served.
egregious @
113
Quick divorce. As a reward. Has Olsen remarried?
Great post.
Good read on a Sunday morning - I’ll remember it as we get closer to 11/08.
markm8128 @ 168
Ah Come-on…where is the link to keep him?
Alittle commedy, a couple laughs, the occational guffhaw..?? What’s wrong with that?
Laughing is great for the soul.
Kristine @
165
dang!…I just now found this. I wouldn’t worry about the alpha-folks too much as they seem to be a good judge of character all in all. They usually post if something bothers them. I do that same thing with my foot alla the time.
:-)