After the stresses of the congressional midterms I needed some time to "get away from it all" and empty my mind. I guess I could have done some Zen meditation but ever since I was a kid, I've made a habit of taking to the road in December and going somewhere. These days I write about my trips– to Nepal, Sri Lanka, Italy, Egypt, Turkey, Thailand, Vietnam, etc– on my travel blog and I do my best, more or less, to keep the travel and the politics separate. But not always. I mean I was in Argentina; how could I resist hopping over to Asuncion to investigate Bush's recently acquired secret ranch/refuge in the unpopulated jungles of the Chaco in northwest Paraguay? But mostly my trip was to remote places like Tierra del Fuego (down towards Antarctica) and Esteros del Ibera, a pristine, wetland up in the north, filled with alligators, pirhanas and anacondas (but with a wonderful hammock for sleeping and reading away the days).
But the best part of travel for me is always the people I meet and on this trip it was even truer than usual. When I first got to Buenos Aires I met two remarkable women, a mother and daughter. The daughter had just won a Fullbright Fellowship to study in the U.S. and the mother, Amelia, a friend of a friend, had been imprisoned by the fascist junta. She had a lot to say about it. And since they're both vegans, we had some nice dinner discussions about politics in Argentina (when I wasn't hanging out with penguins and alligators and looking for Bush's ranch).
When I got home I wrote a piece on safety in Buenos Aires. Just before I had gone, the Bush daughters had flown from the supposedly nonexistent ranch in Paraguay to Buenos Aires, a major party town and, surrounded by Secret Service agents, wound up being robbed (a purse and cell phone). Like everyone, I thought it was funny. Once I got to Buenos Aires, I realized it isn't quite as funny. Crime is endemic– and more endemic than it is in most big cities. I mean there's crime in Bangkok, Marrakech, Hong Kong, New York, Paris, Cairo, Istanbul, Rome, Mexico City… even here in L.A., and, as a tourist, it pays to always be alert. But Buenos Aires is in a category by itself.
You can stay at the Park Hyatt and basically never leave America– and never really get to experience what foreign is all about. Or you can put yourself at some risk. I don't know what percentage of tourists become the victims of crime in Buenos Aires as compared to other big cities, but I sure met an inordinately large number of tourists who had had a problem. And all of my Argentine friends– from a right wing hotel manager to the aforementioned Amelia– told me the same thing: crime in Buenos Aires is directed at everyone, not just tourists. My friend in bucolic Posadas has two sisters who moved from Misiones to cosmopolitan Buenos Aires. Both have been robbed numerous times; one was robbed 6 times! Buenos Aires crime isn't all directed at tourists. It's directed at everyone, including tourists. Allow me to leave out the specifics of all the scams and get right to the causes.
There are a lot of theories, although I should point out that most of the huge Latin American cities are crime infested and relatively unsafe. Argentina is a very materialistic place and somewhat superficial to boot. Everybody who's anybody– or wants to be– wants to at least appear to be on top of things. That costs money. And of the 11 million residents of the city, a great many millions of them are poor. It looks like a very prosperous city, a very, very prosperous city. But you don't have to go far from the core, away from the Microcentro, from Palermo, from Recoleta, Belgrano, Retiro, Barrio Norte before you run into some serious poverty. Shanties surround the city. And there are sections right in the heart of it you don't want to walk through. A ten minute stroll from the 4 Seasons and Park Hyatt you could stumble onto Villa 31, a ghetto that many Porteños claim is at the root of a good deal of the street crime in town. Along with urban myths about how teenage murderers cannot be legally punished and that kind of thing, you get a picture of Villa 31 being filled with young people sitting around and listening to cumbia all day– think rap and hip-hop– and very addicted to Paco (think crack). You'll be hard-pressed to find too much sympathy among Argentines for the residents of Villa 31 and the other villas miserias and their unfortunate inhabitants but here's the other side of the story.
A few days ago Amelia wrote me an email putting the Buenos Aires crime nightmare into context. Her social and political analysis makes a lot of sense. She talks about the economic and social degradation of the middle class through the quick fix globalization policies of crooked, reactionary Bush ally Carlos Saul Menem, president from 1989-1999. His privatization and de-industrialization policies were toxic for the middle class and worse for the working class. The rich did well. Argentina, a country that prided itself on the uniqueness of Latin America's strongest middle class society, suddenly started going down a path of parallel worlds, one for the rich in gated communities and one for everyone else.
"People of the suburbs," Amelia wrote, "with no work and no future started to invade the city, sometimes taking empty old abandoned houses and turning to street robbery to get by. The result: growing unsafety and insecurity for the society… There are a lot of tourists coming all the time and sometimes they are very visible for these desperate people, making them obvious targets, not to say that locals do not suffer this unsafety as well, probably far more, in fact." Here's a piece of Amelia's blog entry that explains it:
Regarding major crime– like kidnapping and car theft sometimes leading to murder– it is often that we find bands of ex-policemen working in combination with lumpen proletariat from the exurban villas (barrios), doing all this, most frequently in the suburbs. I'll call this a residual of last military government (what is called mano de obra desocupada, this meaning that these people were employed in kidnaping and robbing people for political reasons and when democracy came back, they had no "legitimate" work… so they changed their targets. We have been in "democracy" since 1983 but this situation continues today.)
Please join Pachacutec and Brian Keeler Saturday at 11:00am PST for a conversation about things you may want to know if you're considering a run for public office.



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twolf1
fitz! real soon.
[an ungrammatical joke on fitz becoming real, soon]
“What I can conclude is that Buenos Aires at this time has more insecurity and less safety than it had ten years ago.”
Could one surmise the same could be said for most cites in the U.S. too?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 3
I found a lot of similarities– especially in the direction Bush seems to be leading.
I can understand if no one wants to talk about Argentina. I felt a little weird writing this for FDL. It made me laugh, as though I was asking people to sit down and look at my slide show from my trip to the shore or something. I’d be just as happy if we turned this into a discussion of what can be done to stop Bush from escalating his war and dragging us all along with him. I managed to squeeze in some time to write about that between the reminiscences of tango and alligators.
So where is the slide show?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 3
Heard something on TV just this week re. so much money going into terra, terra, terra that it has sucked off much funding from plain ol’ policing of *ordinary* crime ‘-(
Not to mention the joke of a war on drugs.
Howie Klein @
4
Certainly one of the things Latin America is famous for is a wide gap between rich and poor. That certainly can’t help the crime problem, since the poor need to eat, have shelter, among other basic needs.
I suspect that’s one of the things you/re refering to, Howie, but it bears stressing anyway.
Howie Klein @
5
Howie, maybe we don’t want to talk about it so much because we all realize that we could be next.
And it’s scary.
Twisted Martini @ 6
On my travel blog– and I sent some beautiful pictures of tucans and parrots to Christie for her to use in the future.
Waccamaw @ 7
Another thing that’s hurt us, at least out here in the West where referenda roam free, is the anti-tax initiatives. It’s becoming very difficult to fund anything, including public safety. The city I live in has a chronic shortage of police officers, and they don’t seem to have a way of fixing it.
I was kidding, but thanks for the post, I really enjoyed it. It frightened me as well, a post of Christmases yet to come if we don’t stand and deliver against the gangsters currently running things.
Howie Klein @ 5
How about: Reagan/CIA/Central and South America => Bush/Pentagon/Middle East? Does that hold any water?
Is Olbermann going to be with us tonight?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 15
FDL, Crooks & Liars and DWT are talking about putting on some live Olbermann evenings this winter, starting in NYC and L.A.
I expect everyone has seen Olbermann’s piece and read Moyers, right? Murtha’s plans for how to defund Bush? And Congressman Sam Farr’s bill to revoke his war authorization of 2002? That’s the stuff I thought was most important today.
I sent Olbermann last night to my mom to watch and she got mad at me. We had been discussing Iraq at Xmas and she was convinced that the ISG would work and that Bush would listen. Told her he would do what he wanted, like he always did.
She said she didn’t have to listen to his tirade. I told her he is the Murrow of our time, forcefully speaking truth to power. People don’t like to have their bubble burst. Tough shit.
OT: Cujo – toungues are (s)wagging over your riotous post.
Twisted Martini @ 18
Even more powerful than Murrow in some ways. And he’s just getting started!
Welcome home, Howie. Interesting post. In your travels, have you personally seen in recent years any negative impacts of the Bush administration in terms of how Americans abroad are perceived and treated?
I sent you an e-mail on a congressional issue. Hope you have time to look at it.
Your bubble forms when the conventions that you have trusted for years-radio, TV news, and Newsweek-can no longer be trusted to provide objective news. She listens to Imus and thinks Tom Freidman is a smart guy. My response to all that is “how long does the weatherman have to be wrong before you stop listening to him?”
neurophius @ 21
HUGELY and all the time and everywhere. I started traveling around the world in 1969 and I lived abroad for nearly 7 years and I spend at least a month per year out of the U.S. and I’ve never seen it this bad. People hate Bush everywhere and they’re losing patience with Americans for not doing anything about it. After the 2004 elections people started getting angry with not just Bush but with all of us.
neurophius @ 21
Can you remind me? I’m not sure what you’re referring to
OT, Redneck theater owner bans black movie from theaters on MLK’s birthday. Ignorance is an epidemic!
Lou Dobbs is turning into a real rabble rouser on his CNN gig. Middle class hero, yadda yadda. I keep expecting him to go all Howard Beale on us.
What are the differences between Olbermann and Dobbs? Style, subject matter?
Olbermann seems to champion American values as outlined in the Constitution, while Dobbs seems to speak to class issues?
Hard for me to put my finger on why Dobbs leaves me cold, and Olbermann warms me.
jeffreyw @ 26
doesn’t Dobbs have a bug up his a** about immigration?
I will not take orders from my party (Demos). Or from Rahm, the DLC or for that matter Senator Clinton. Any more than I will take directives from the Bush crowd. And… that is that.
Yes, I’m not sure if it is an issue he believes in his soul is important on the merits, or if it is just a wave he hopes to surf.
Hi, Howie! Nice to see you here on a Friday.
Folks would be wise to learn the lessons of places like Argentina — to ponder what will happen in the U.S…. when there is no more middle class and it’s just the super-rich against everyone else.
A Florida Highway patrol officer was killed late this afternoon about 2 miles from my house. I live in a really small town and there are literally hundreds of unmarked cars all over the place and helicopters flying around. It was a routine traffic stop and the officer was shot and the guy ran through the orange groves.
Oh Lordy,
Keith is going to do a piece on how JoeLIE is gonna hold the senate hostage to his own whims.
RevDeb @ 32
Get the Pepto…
punaise @ 27
Dobbs espouses the right wing world view in that he is a champion of “the market”.
Wingers refuse to acknowledge that “the market” is tilted to favor big players and screw the rest of us. Instead, they pretend that all is fair in “free markets”. They are self adjusting, they present a “level playing field”, etc.
Twisted Martini @ 33
Not strong enough. Maybe Ipicac.
Brown liquor then!
KEEF! :-)))))
RevDeb @ 35
Looking at Olbermann.
Attacking Iran AND Syria is very much on the table.
John Dean says on Olbermann that having “Israel do the dirty work” is also on the table.
Howie–where is your link to Italy? I’m going to Venice and would love to read your guide.
punaise @ 27
The current issue of Mother Jones magazine has a good article on Dobbs, and sheds some light on where he’s coming from vis a vis immigration.
I must say, the thought of the Bush Twins getting ripped off in San Telmo really tickles me.
http://www.rawstory.com/showar…..112nj1.htm
New Murray Waas Plamegate stuff. Apologies if it’s already been posted.
harry @ 43
It was on the last thread, but it is most certainly worth posting again. GREAT stuff.
Fine post, Howie. Thanks for the discussion of crime in Buenos Aires. I hope we are not inexorably headed in the same direction.
oregondave @ 41
gracias
Thus far, information derived from Olbermann, as I listen, disturbs me.
Howie,
Always nice to read even difficult sides of your travels. After we save the world from, well, us, I hope to hit the road / paths again and spend much more time outdoors photographing birds and in a hammock. It’s the little things isn’t it..)
Twisted Martini @ 33
Speaking of this…has anyone seen a copy of the 110th Senate Organizing Resolution? I can’t find it in the usual places (senate.gov, Thomas, etc.)
Twisted Martini @ 36
a bourbon martini? OK. I guess I’ll try it.
Maybe Condi stole the twins purse cause it matched her shoes.
We’re going to attack Iran. And Hillary is visiting the Green Zone,
ccmask @ 51
Or because it sorta had Dubya’s DNA on it. He’s just so dreamy…
It’s always a bit of a giggle from 8-9 p.m. I *know* where you guys are ;-) Comments usually pop up during “intermission” *g*.
ccmask, have they caught him yet? Lay low until they do. Ya never know…
I used to live in an unincorporated area in Northern Virginia, near Lorton Penitentiary. When ever they had escapees, and it happened all to frequently for me, they put us in lockdown until further notice. There were neigborhood stories, who knows if they were true.
Take good care.
Prez Bush. Want to blame something? Piece of cake. Very, very, poor parenting. And the “Twins”? Well….
I haven’t read all the comments yet, but we might consider the fact that policing is not up to snuff in many parts of the country (certainly here) because so very, very many of our cops and fireman are members of the Reserve and National Guard. It’s a major problem in smaller cities. And it certainly doesn’t help that, against the howls of all 50 Governors, Congress has passed legislation that lets W use the National Guard pretty much as he sees fit. /tantrum
Bush has got to be very very close to his oil prize over there to risk so much (the thimble full he put in) at so late a date. I’m surprised that the big 4 aren’t putting up the money by now so that he didn’t have to ask congress. If he loses the additional troops, how much will gas be for Americans once pics start coming out of there I wonder?
Thanks Mommybrain. I still hear sirens and copters and it happened a little after 3:00. And believe me, the only noise I ever hear around here are oranges falling on the ground.
RevDeb @ 44
Odd that the Wall Street Journal can’t figure out what all the fuss is about. Seems like the WSJ is intentionally downplaying the Libby case. Elsewhere, on the Libby trial, the media appears to be as quiet as a church mouse.
Howie Klein @ 17
From the WH press briefing today:
hackworth @ 60
That’s why we need our Ladies of the Lake to report it like it is.
THANK YOU JANE! ARIANNA! CHRISTY, MARCY, PACH, LHP, SWOPA
and anyone else I’ve left out who is on Plame duty.
the blogger
Oh, yeah! KO doing a TAKEDOWN of RGJoe.
Huffington on KO to talk about Lieberman
ARIANNA on Keith slamming Joe!
twolf1 @ 63
That doesn’t look anything like me.
“Joe Switch-Pack” has GOT to be what we call him from now on!
Arianna.
Joe Switch-Pack on the bottom of the KO screen!
twolf1 @ 63
Nice bag but I can’t understand why these manufacturers ignore those of us with the 17″ widescreens. I’m still lugging mine around in a saddle bag adapted for the purpose.
Welcome back Howie, Happy New Year!
Great! KO’s not letting him off the NOLA hook either.
Also from the WH press briefing on the lack of any reaction or endorsement of Bush’s Iraq plan by Iraiqi Prime Minister Maliki:
There you have it. Maliki couldn’t find the time to respond to Bush’s major new change of direction in Iraq because he had more important things to do like answering questions about pension reform. Well, at least it was nothing intentional. I feel better already.
That is so perfect Marion, isn’t it! Booyah!
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 71
I use a giant backpack which I also carry my camera and lenses around in when I travel, because I don’t trust the TSA inspectors one tiny little bit.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 71
actually, the apple 17″ fits in my older Timbuk2 laptop backpack that is only supposed to hold a 15″
Hugh @ 73
He’s the strong, silent type, just like Dubya.
from wiki:
After graduating, Lieberman attended Yale Law School, receiving his LLB law degree in 1967. He received multiple draft deferments during this period (initially for being in graduate school, and later for being married).
ccmask @ 74
I hope you mean the “Joe Switch-Pack” name. We really, really, really need to “viralize” that without ceasing.
And finally,
Via Froomkin,
An exchange between White House press secretary Tony Snow and Chris Matthews:
And on the 4th anniversary of his column:
Snarky but accurate.
Hey Howie!
Thanks for the detailed post! I wish I could do some traveling, and it gives me even more motivation (as if I needed more!) to make complete physical rehab as much of a reality as possible — although I’d be a sitting duck in Buenos Aires. Walking fast might be almost do-able, but am not sure I’ll ever be able to run!!! lol.
Meantime, please! Somebody talk me in off the ledge (the ledge of MORALE — do NOT take me literally here).
I’m so very very very discouraged and frightened now. I’m aware of a couple of folks, civil servants, who themselves believe the madmen in this administration will go to war with Iran, and there is nothing anyone on earth can do to stop them. (Not that I’m hearing any inside dirt, mind you, just their educated impressions.)
There was a psychologist named Marvin (Martin?) Seligman, who years back (’80s) had a book out on what he considered to be a major cause of depression. It was called “Learned Helplessness”.
I feel like I’m trapped in Chapter 1 of his book.
How are YOU all coping?
And if you have any reasons for a boost in morale, some reason for hope regarding a disastrous expansion of war into Iran/Syria — please DO share.
One fellow over at dKos the other day suggested that there may be military folks who will engineer a sort of “back door” quasi-coup — by spilling the beans on very very serious evidence of impeachable offenses, stuff even worse (if you can imagine that) than what we already know.
Does that sound plausible?
Hugh @ 80
Matthews is great when he has his lucid moment for the week.
One of the things I have noticed is that the destruction of American society is ubiquitous. In every area, from government to churches to education to media, it is difficult to find any place where the Neo agenda is not being carried out. There are thousands of people working on thes, nano-engines of destruction busily dismantling any institution they come in contact with.
Another is that is is done by making changes that will
It has started here in Canada, too, about 10 yrs ago, maybe more, with Ontario premier Mike Harris Harris is now a senior fellow of the Fraser Institute, which is funded by the likes of Richard Scaif. A friend of mine, administrator of a hospital in a medium-sized city that served a lerge rural area, predicted that the changed taking place just before she retired would cripple the system in 10 years time. I hear similar predictions from my friends in teaching. One of the fabourite ways of making the system break itself was to impose a spurious uniformity in the name of fairness. A large portion of the plans consisted of either axing programs and facilities outright on the grounds that if everyone couldn’t have them no one could, another was to make everyone share overburdened resources until they failed, yet another was to amalgamate facilities (read close a percentage) in the name of efficiency.
Uniform procedures further reduced institutions’ ability to respond to local situations, needs and preferences, and for the staff to apply their experience and on-the-ground knowledge to help their patients, students, clients, whatever. Teachers have to be on the same page of the same book on a given date. If something is not in the curriculum it can in theory be taught, but in fact the material to be covered for the standardized, province-wide tests was more than could be taught in the time alotted so… tough shit.
Feedback from nurses, classroom teachers, caseworkers, etc. does not play a big part in the process, either. The result is what you’d expect — poor programs, poor delivery, and poor morale. And when the system screws there are CanWest-owned media ready to howl that the system isn’t working and the answer is privatization. And it is designed for ’set and forget’ operation. The procedure will burble merrily away, killing our social institutions, unless the bad procedures are understood and repaired. This means that they will continue to corrode no matter who is in power.
So that’s how it’s done here, folks. And we have a system where we can bring down the government.
Yes, the name Joe switch pack. I love the Joey wiki page because the kiss video plays non-stop on it.
Eli @ 82
Sadly, too true.
Did everyone see Russ on KO? http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gm…..n_the.html
Howie,
I hope to go to Argentina someday. Supposedly, a year from next month I get to go to Chile, so maybe…?
I’ve read a couple of books about the Dirty War, both by Argentinian journalists. Neither was very good, so I didn’t keep them. US magazine coverage of revelations about the disaperacadios over the years hasn’t been very good, either.
One theme in the stuff I’ve read, though, is that Argentinians haven’t fully investigated the Dirty War because they’re afraid to look and see what it was they so easily became. And how easily the middle class stood by as their most prominent young liberals were quietly murdered over a period of four years.
What is your take on that? And is there a really good book on the Dirty War out there that I’m unaware of?
Ed*ard Teller @ 87
Just sit tight. We’ll all be living it soon enough.
Eli @
88
Several outspoken Muslim-American intellectuals are already over halfway there…
Oh, my, oh my…. KO on Billy Kristol as TWPITW! Faaaabulous…!
Word is that Clusterfuck wants to arrange a big surprise for Malaki- a parliamentary coup! SURPRISE- that’s AFTER killing off Malaki’s supporters in Sadr City….
Bout time for Malaki to say–”Sayonarra” to Clusterfuck- and our troops?
Marion in Savannah @ 90
I thought it was “Mahvelous”…
OT, but is anyone else seeing the commercial for the “reverse mortgage” which is supposed to give “seniors” some modicum of “dignity and security?” Wonderful. You don’t have enough to retire on, but you have a house. Now you can get a “reverse mortgage” which means that you CERTAINLY won’t have to worry about the “death tax” because you will have had to use the equity in your house to avoid eating cat food. Your kids can make do on the (possibly) increased minimum wage…
When if ever, will my party, the Democrats call-out AIPAC?
Late to the party. Was anyone watching Arianna huffington and Keith olbermann dissect holy Joe tonight. They were pretty good.
Just because I’m on the topic, Tony Snow has some really annoying habits. One is to ask questions (often stilted, stupid ones) instead of doing his job which is to answer them:
Well gee, Tony, I don’t know. Is this multiple choice?
Another thing is take someone or something that is in fundamental disagreement with an Administration position and act like there is little or no daylight between the two:
Which, no doubt, explains why the Administration embraced it so warmly, not.
twolf1 @ 65
It was great.
Hi Mrs K8,
Well, the good thing about this-here ledge we’re on, is it’s got a great view and really nice company. I am heartened by the fact that we (we being folks who think the US admin is bat-shit crazy and dangerous) have been able to make some changes.
I do think They will fight like cornered rats, They are already, and there is a good chance that W will use the nukes. At this point I believe there are enough angry and well-informed people, ie, will know it has occurred and what it means, despite official disinformation, that we’ll take to the streets and tear the White House down with our bare hands. I am encouraged byt the W-bashing by R’s and the media — that was unthinkable even a montha ago. It’s bad. It’ll get worse. We’ll win.
Howie,
I’m a lurker …. I read just about every post, but due to time zone & limitations just don’t have the chance to post.
That said I do very much apperciate your post. Its hard to get view points about the rest of the world from writers who’s work you know. I’ve thought for a while that South America we should pay attention to. It is a potential future for all of us. A future and a warning.
I hope you will share more of what you learned/felt/though during your travels.
Eli @ 92
707! That’s the OTHER Billy…
Here’s the link to that video My Box In A Box theyre discussing on KO. Too hilarious.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 99
And didn’t “the voice” look pissed after he started talking to “the bod”….
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 101
nice freckle.
new thread
And can you blame them? Aside from my despair at Kerry’s loss in 2004 I was so embarrassed by what Bush’s victory said about American voters. Quite frankly I think the world was shocked. Now they’re just disgusted.
Thanks for your piece on Argentina. My daughter is traveling right now in Guatemala and Mexico and I’m trying not to be a worry about her. I’ll be relieved when she gets home on Sunday.
I am concerned that this country is going to end up an oligarchy like those in South & Central America. Bush and his cronies could care less what happens to the middle class, as long as the top 1% get “their due” to quote Cheney.
O/T. Lamont. RevDeb, Scarecrow et al. CT bob has delivered a great video of the party as promised. Do watch.
Great rowdy progressive fun.
Marion in Savannah @ 100
Yeah I caught that too. Well, she should have done the video. I’m thinking she didnt think anyone beyond their friends would see the vid and decided it was unimportant to be in it. I don’t buy that bit she said she was due back to school in a few days. If they tracked it at Christmastime she would have had about ten days to get back to school.
I miss the peanut.
dab from CT @ 105
high-schooler punaise jr. did a stint in Morelia, Mexico this summer, in a program making public service videos with local students. his report is that there is vast disgust at Bush and US policies, resentment at US corporate domination, but general affinity for Americans as people.
HotFlash @ 98
Thank you for responding, HotFlash, I was wondering if my mic was on.
[Although I do seem to have a knack for hitting “send” on a long-ish comment right in the middle of very quick-moving and interesting back-and-forth commentary that has its own compelling rhythm. Timing! It would be neat to have software that let you see what’s going on while you’re composing so you can time your thought for the lull.]
I think you are right about the larger shape of things.
And I know that (eventually) the truth will win out. In one respect it’s very much NOT like living in late thirties Germany — Imagine how much worse this would be if all of us Pupsters felt as we do, but were surrounded by a huge majority, say 85% or so, who were itching feverishly for MORE war, MORE war, MORE war.
Imagine what it would be like if you had to look out your window to the sight of parades with thousands of people waving banners with Dubya’s picture on them, cheering him on.
So in the long run, they will indeed lose and lose badly. But the death and destruction and suffering and mayhem and waste of resources and corruption and despair and ecological disaster etc etc etc (you know what I mean) — it all makes my heart hurt so much I think it will burst.
Thank God for all you Firedogs. You’re my most direct link to sanity.
Cornflake @ 99
Welcome to the Lake, Cornflake!
I’m glad you had the opportunity to speak up and share your thoughts.
You’re right about South America. And even though it is a definite warning about where we are heading, South America has also been showing many seeds of new hope in recent years, what with so many countries abandoning the status of “America’s Monkey” and beginning to take care of more of their citizens than just the top 1 or 2 percent of wealth.
Their various situations should be noted for many reasons!
Hope you get to post more often.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 107
I somehow missed the net-rage on this but caught them on KO. “The Voice” – she seems to have the look/personality to go with it….great smile.
Mrs. K8,
The best thing I could suggest is to read mysteries by Eliot Pattison.
http://www.eliotpattison.com/
The author is a writer for National Geographic. The books are spiritual and have such gorgeous imagery. They take place in Tibet, main character is a Chinese prisoner who was a police inspector.
81Mrs. K8 says:
I must admit that I’ve thought of advocating that myself, but talk about a slippery slope!!!
Marion in Savannah @ 93
Yeah. Not only have I seen the commercial, I have friends that have done it. And, I’m thinking of doing it. The premise is that you can use the equity from your home and use it to live on without having to take out a second mortgage. It pays off whatever mortgage you already have on your house, but you can however much you need up to the appraised value of your house. And it appreciates to give you more as needed. It would seem to work for me, since I bought my house in 2003 for $93,500, but it now appraises at $170,000. The bill doesn’t come due until you die, so there are no remaining payments to make on your house mortgage. Then your inheritors can sell the home and pay off the mortgage and keep what’s left. You can’t do it until you’re 62 years old. I’m thinking I may be able to put a lot of the equity in trust for my two sons (hopefully trusts are interest bearing) and leave enough to pay a realtor friend to sell it. But that would free up more than $700/mo that I currently pay on house payments. Don’t worry, I intend to see a lawyer before I make such a move, but my friends seem to think it was good for them.
Something very significant from the latest CNN poll released today:
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“And thinking about the U.S. troops currently stationed in Iraq, what would you want your members of Congress to do? Should they vote to allow the government to spend money to keep those troops in that country, or vote to allow the government to spend money only to withdraw those troops from Iraq?”
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Keep Withdraw Unsure
% % %
1/11/07
41 54 5
54% of americans now favor gettin the fuck out of Iraq..
That’s huge!
Howie Klein @ 24
Look for the word “Boyda” in the subject line.
While the poor get poorer, the rich get stupider, and the middle class gets squeezed in between.
A thriving, vibrant, expansive middle class is the backbone of any democratic society. A healthy middle class breeds stability, hope and a cash-flow rich environment.
The opposite, a society with a narrow middle class, an even narrower wealthy class, with a huge sea of poverty stricken families beneath breeds anarchy, revolution, totalitarian regimes and increasing crime rates as the economically (and often politically) disenfranchised, often without hope of improving their lot in society, try to just survive from day to day.
Thus, Argentina today, after 10 years of neo-con economic policies, privatization and de-industrialization, geared solely to shift more money into the pockets of those already with a lot of money…and away from the poor and inevitably the middle class. Negative cash-flow results. The sea of the poor gets larger. The middle class shrinks. The already wealthy get even wealthier and end up living in gated, guarded communities or spend their time traveling away from the country they’ve pillaged and stratified through their greed.
Human nature. Always the same. Throughout history. All over the world.
Unless “checks and balances” are put into place. Unless safeguards are incorporated into any form of government that is created in any country, a government that reins in the wealthy, the aristocrats, the ego-centric, the me-firsters, the greedy.
But not “checks and balances” with the intent of leveling the playing field by destroying the wealthy classes (As some Communists keep proposing). A system of “checks and balances”, economically focused, that shift a portion of the wealth of a nation from the wealthy to the middle and lower classes, which still leaves the wealthy wealthy but just not as wealthy as before, or as they’d like to be if left unchecked and unbalanced.
Hope is fostered and nurtured in such a cash-flow rich society. The hope that someone born into poverty can raise their lot (and their families), maybe into the middle class or even higher, through the sharing of economic opportunities by the wealthy class (and broad middle class).
Otherwise, one ends up with a Communist-type country where the only hope of advancement is being Communist. Or a country like Iraq today, in which a large portion of the Iraqi middle and upper classes have fled the war-torn country, taking their expertise and money elsewhere, leaving the new Iraq beset with crime and violence and gangs fighting over Iraq’s rapidly decaying carcass.
Argentina is facing the same meltdown. Unless the wealthiest of wealthy Argentinians get smarter and start acting like good shepherds of Argentina’s economy…instead of just scavengers picking over the bones of Argentina. It’s their choice. But then, I did mention that the rich often tend to be stupid.
“Argentina is a very materialistic place and somewhat superficial to boot.”
What is this supposed to mean?
I find the comment to be an undeserved simplistic generalization of one of the most cultivated, literate, and sophisticated societies in the Southern Hemisphere. Besides which, there is nothing in the entire posting which backs up such a shrill statement.
Yes, it is true Buenos Aires has many hair salons. It is also true it has more bookstores than any major city in the United States.
Did anyone tell Bush that Paraguay has a lot of Muslims and even his administration has been warning that Al Qaeda is active there?
I have been to BA about six times. I really don’t think the alert tourist who stays in crowds has much to fear. Bush’s daughter was probably pasted when she was robbed.
You’re right that BA can be unsafe however after a decade the worst that has happened to me is getting pickpocketed – and that was because I had let my guard down. I believe a lot of the people who get robbed are vulnerable because they are not used to living in big cities in their own countries. Americans in particular tend to live in suburbs where there is no street life. They drive everywhere and seldom think about security issues, other than burgalries. These people come to BA wearing baseball caps and Hawaian shirts, cameras slung over their shoulders and are walking invitations to be robbed. With a little common sense these people could dress conservatively, blend in better and would be less vulnerable. Regarding increased crime over the past decade — the crime has increased dramatically since the devaluation. The radical and unplanned devaluation plunged the country into chaos causing millions to sink into poverty overnight. That devaluation was necessary is debatable, if it had to be done it should have been pl;anned carefully and gradually implemented. The consequences to the masses, including the middle class, would have been much more tolerable. Argentina, however, simply does not work that way. SUccessive governments have been notoriously corrupt and the voters astonishingly willing to tolerate the corruption. After all they keep the same putrid Peronist party in power, don’t they! One has to wonder if they are so sophisticated and literate as they claim, why don’t they start voting differently and force change?
I am left to wonder what kind of traveling you do. As you know, Argentina is on the hot list of travelers now. Your experience is the first I have heard of a crime wave.
Maybe you could put it in perspective… is it worst than NYC? How about Miami? Is Argentina on the State Department’s watch list?
Seriously, if the Bush daughters are going there, how bad could the crime be? Kind of makes you look like a bit of a drama queen.
I guess the crime wave you describe fits nicely with your political story but maybe a bit to conveniently. Details are important. How does the crime in say Buenes Aires compare to crime rates in other major cities of the world?
“One has to wonder if they are so sophisticated and literate as they claim, why don’t they start voting differently and force change?”
Regarding the above comment by Tony, 121:
Like it or not, the administration of Nestor Kirchner is an improvement over the arrogant, corrupt, catastrophic presidency of Bush family buddy and GHB golf partner Carlos Menem. Argentina has managed to overcome its worse economic crisis despite the unfair demands and lack of cooperation from the World Bank and the U.S. government. Fortunately, it failed to prop up again its south american lap dog, the disgraceful Menem, in the last election!
As far as the rumored 98.840 acre Paraguayan Bush spread reported by Prensa Latina on October 18,2006:
It might be connected to the longstanding Bush family links to Unification Church’s Sun Myung Moon.
Published reports claim Rev. Moon bought 1.5 million acres of agricultural lands in Paraguay.
“Moon’s land acquisitions in Chaco Province are just north of the huge Guarani aquifer, one of the world’s largest sources of fresh water. In addition, Moon has acquired large tracts of land on the Brazilian side of the Paraguayan border. Local villagers in Paraguay and Brazil claim that most of Moon’s land acquisitions were fraudulent and illegal. Moon’s World Unification Church operates in Paraguay under a corporate contrivance called the Victoria Company. Paraguay has also announced that everyone entering and leaving Paraguay will be photographed and fingerprinted. Not coincidentally, the new border control system is being financed by South Korea.”
It is worth noting, in 1996 George Herbert Bush, for a fee of 100.000 dollars traveled to Argentina to help Moon launch his South American journalistic venture, the right wing propaganda rag “Tiempos del Mundo.”
And this is what he said:
“I want to salute Reverend Moon, who is the founder of The Washington Times and also of Tiempos del Mundo. A lot of my friends in South America don’t know about The Washington Times, but it is an independent voice. The editors of The Washington Times tell me that never once has the man with the vision interfered with the running of the paper, a paper that in my view brings sanity to Washington, D.C. I am convinced that Tiempos del Mundo is going to do the same thing” in Latin America”
Could this be the connection to the Paraguayan property rumored to belong to the Bushes? Maybe a “gift” from Moon?
And an apropos question from Wonkette:
“Here’s a fun question for Tony Snow: Why might the president and his family need a 98.840-acre ranch in Paraguay protected by a semi-secret U.S. military base manned by American troops who have been exempted from war-crimes prosecution by the Paraguayan government?”
And while we are at it, re. new South Korean U.N. Secretary General: “Although Ban Ki-moon and Sun Myung Moon are not related, some UN members may sense that there is something amiss about the Bush administration’s strong support for the South Korean Foreign Minister given the close links between some Bush officials and the “Moonies.”
http://www.consortiumnews.com
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=3447
Mark @ 122
Pickpockets are rife in Buenos Aires.
The Brits warn:
“The most frequent problems involve distraction theft, bag snatching and armed robberies in the street, in taxis and restaurants. Distraction thefts commonly occur in public areas such as Internet cafes, and train and bus stations. You should keep a close hold on your personal possessions and bags. Con men have also robbed tourists while an accomplice pretends to help remove ketchup or mustard which has been “accidentally” sprayed on them. Another common occurrence is the slitting of handbags in crowded places. Be particularly attentive in popular tourist areas, such as San Telmo. You should avoid carrying too much cash or wearing ostentatious jewellery.”
However, Argentina as a whole is not crime ridden and it has become a hot tourist destination because, aside from its diverse natural beauty, from deserts in the north to glaciers in the south, for American and European tourists it is dirt cheap. Though prices have gone up by 30 percent in the past 3 years, you still get great value for your dollar.
(Menem pegged the dollar to the peso, 1 to 1- now it is 3 to1 )
So, it is great for tourists to hang out in a fabulous and truly cosmopolitan city like Buenos Aires, think Paris, and feel everything is affordable.
We visted Buenos Aires for 3 days in December.Walked around Microcentro, Recoleta, BN and elsewhere and had a wonderful time.
No different than NYC.No we didnt go to crime ridden areas but who goes to the South Bronx while in New York?
Only prblem was avoiding dog poop.
I am jealous Rod. I have been reading and preparing for a trip to Buenos Aires and when I read this post, it didn’t make any sense. We all know big cities have crime. When we went to Spain a few years back, we heard the same kind of exaggerated warnings. Can’t tell if he was forcing a political/economic point, a tourist that never leaves the hotel or wildely influenced by tales a pickpockets. Your account is dead on with what I have been reading. His is not.
Mark @ 126
Of course, using common sense helps. However, the crime wave in Buenos Aires is real and the warning is valid. I was born there and return often. Though, knock on wood, I’ve never been robbed, most of my friends have. Some multiple times. It is usually non violent though quite often involves a threat with a weapon.
You are advised not to wear ostentatious jewelry ,not to carry a lot of cash on you or hang out in internet cafes with fancy laptops. Whenever possible, It’s preferable not to carry an atm card. You also have to be cautious with taxis. Better use radio taxis or car service.
There use to be a time when you could walk the street of Buenos Aires at all hours of the night. Not any longer.
New York, where I live, is infinitely safer than B.A.
Ceci, I was given the same warning about Spain and even Hawaii (my sister-in-law lived there for 30 years) when I visited. Never had a bit of problem or concern.
Where do you live in New York… I hope you agree you wouldn’t walk just anywhere in NYC “at all hours of the night.” I can’t think of a big city anywhere that you could say that about.
Anecdotal accounts are hardly definitive and “crime wave” does not give any specifics. Then, I can’t tell what “infinitely” means. Do you think the non-violent crime rates in NYC vs BA are 3 times as high? More? Certainly not infinite.
I have talked to and read accounts from so many people that have visited BA and walked the streets late at night without being afraid of crime, that I just don’t know what to make out of your hearsay comments. I know people that would be scared to death if they visited NYC. Their perception is more important than the reality. For some people, a big city is just plain scary. Then you add in racial and ethnic phobias and wahla! you have a “crime wave.”
CECI…You are right that the Bush connection to Moon looks corrupt – and may be. It certainly was inappropriate for ex President Bush to associate with Moon. As for Kirchner…he too is corrupt and arrogant. He has concentrated power in the Executive as never before, tolerating one opinion only: his own. He manages the press by spendng government money lavishly for advertising and, guess what, the bulk of the money goes to friendly newspapers. The man is undemocratic and authoritarian. My point was that the public could have thrown out the Peronists but chose to keep them in power. The same system of crony politics continues only now with greater poverty than ever. I just don’t buy the argument “like it or not Kirchner is better…” Maybe Mussolini was better than Hitler. The fact is that no one should like it. Until this sort of thinking changes Argentina will never get better – it will just make a little propgress here and there and slip back into mediocrity or much worse.