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		<title>By: JoyB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454776</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok, I just had a horrifying thought: in getting my own 0 first posts, have I ever shouted “zed!”  I wouldn’t put it past me…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I just had a horrifying thought: in getting my own 0 first posts, have I ever shouted “zed!”  I wouldn’t put it past me…</p>
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		<title>By: xjt.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454750</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My social worker partner used to run a mental health clinic in a scary part of L.A. One day while she was in her office, she heard screaming and the sound of objects being thrown around in the group room, where an outpatient therapy group was being held. She ran out of her office and down the hallway to the group room, and found a bunch of frightened interns, staff, and other patients cowered against a wall, watching another patient having a meltdown. He was throwing things, screaming and threatening everyone. It was quite a scary scene. Anyway, given her training and the fact that she knew what she was doing, she walked up to the guy, pointed her finger at him and said “STOP RIGHT NOW!”&lt;br /&gt;
And the guy immediately stopped.&lt;br /&gt;
The point is, somebody had to tell him to stop. Somebody had to set the boundary. You might argue that unconsciously the guy was begging for somebody to contain him. My partner did, and things ended peacefully.&lt;br /&gt;
Bush has never had a container in his life. I guess we’ll see how far he’s allowed to escalate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My social worker partner used to run a mental health clinic in a scary part of L.A. One day while she was in her office, she heard screaming and the sound of objects being thrown around in the group room, where an outpatient therapy group was being held. She ran out of her office and down the hallway to the group room, and found a bunch of frightened interns, staff, and other patients cowered against a wall, watching another patient having a meltdown. He was throwing things, screaming and threatening everyone. It was quite a scary scene. Anyway, given her training and the fact that she knew what she was doing, she walked up to the guy, pointed her finger at him and said “STOP RIGHT NOW!”<br />
And the guy immediately stopped.<br />
The point is, somebody had to tell him to stop. Somebody had to set the boundary. You might argue that unconsciously the guy was begging for somebody to contain him. My partner did, and things ended peacefully.<br />
Bush has never had a container in his life. I guess we’ll see how far he’s allowed to escalate.</p>
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		<title>By: JoyB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454728</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Eureka Springs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My only quibble is just that zed=the letter z. I LOVE our traditions here, the ZERO! (I’ve gotten them and celebrated that to everyone) And especially “FITZ!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not talking about traditions, I’m talking about the tendency I see of smart, brainy U.S. Americans to adopt Britishisms or whatever and disown their own native terms.  I saw it back in college, I’m guilty of it. But people laugh at us, because we inevitably screw it up (as in shouting the last letter of the alphabet when you’re the first post).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I enjoyed what somebody wrote about getting between the dog and the lamppost, though. I’ll let “zed” go, but I’ve seen a LOT of these euro terms from clearly American (U.S., not Canadian) people, and I kinda wish we’d just stop it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eureka Springs.</p>
<p>My only quibble is just that zed=the letter z. I LOVE our traditions here, the ZERO! (I’ve gotten them and celebrated that to everyone) And especially “FITZ!”</p>
<p>I’m not talking about traditions, I’m talking about the tendency I see of smart, brainy U.S. Americans to adopt Britishisms or whatever and disown their own native terms.  I saw it back in college, I’m guilty of it. But people laugh at us, because we inevitably screw it up (as in shouting the last letter of the alphabet when you’re the first post).</p>
<p>I enjoyed what somebody wrote about getting between the dog and the lamppost, though. I’ll let “zed” go, but I’ve seen a LOT of these euro terms from clearly American (U.S., not Canadian) people, and I kinda wish we’d just stop it?</p>
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		<title>By: zedhed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454727</link>
		<dc:creator>zedhed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scene: Kennebunkport,ME. A family barbeque.&lt;br /&gt;
A single gun shot rings out…close up on a smoking gun dropping effortlessly from a limp, aged hand. Camera pulls back to reveal Bush Sr., frozen, staring blankly as if in a state of shock. He mutters to no one in particular:&lt;br /&gt;
“I had to do it. I had created a monster. He had to be stopped. God forgive me for unleashing this evil on the world.”&lt;br /&gt;
Slowly colapses into the arms of rushing agents. Fade to black…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scene: Kennebunkport,ME. A family barbeque.<br />
A single gun shot rings out…close up on a smoking gun dropping effortlessly from a limp, aged hand. Camera pulls back to reveal Bush Sr., frozen, staring blankly as if in a state of shock. He mutters to no one in particular:<br />
“I had to do it. I had created a monster. He had to be stopped. God forgive me for unleashing this evil on the world.”<br />
Slowly colapses into the arms of rushing agents. Fade to black…</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs, AR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454679</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs, AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;JoyB,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I understand and empathize with much of what you are saying. Their was a discussion at the time zed was declared by many pups to be another choice for use at the beginning of a thread. It’s silly, it’s clickish and I like it when folks in a group make up their own vocabulary along the way. (for fun, not war or political evasion)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The zero in a thread is seen by only one person. It disappears as soon as it’s filled in with a comment. I can’t think of any other situation where that occurs. Why not play with such an odd occurance?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t have a dog in the hunt, but, see both sides. Glad you chimed in as always.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoyB,</p>
<p>I understand and empathize with much of what you are saying. Their was a discussion at the time zed was declared by many pups to be another choice for use at the beginning of a thread. It’s silly, it’s clickish and I like it when folks in a group make up their own vocabulary along the way. (for fun, not war or political evasion)</p>
<p>The zero in a thread is seen by only one person. It disappears as soon as it’s filled in with a comment. I can’t think of any other situation where that occurs. Why not play with such an odd occurance?</p>
<p>I don’t have a dog in the hunt, but, see both sides. Glad you chimed in as always.</p>
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		<title>By: JoyB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454570</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is completely epu’d, but I just want to say this. If you are a U.S. citizen, and you’d say “zero” in your regular speech, just say “zero” here.  We might be ashamed of our administration, but the words we use, that we were taught to use, are ok. Just because it’s European, doesn’t make it better. Just because it’s American, doesn’t make it stupider. Just use the words you know, and you won’t embarrass yourself. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think this whole silly “zed” thing is an affectation. The nicest people do it, but please stop. If we don’t talk like that, let’s not write like that. Let’s have the dignity of being ourselves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely epu’d, but I just want to say this. If you are a U.S. citizen, and you’d say “zero” in your regular speech, just say “zero” here.  We might be ashamed of our administration, but the words we use, that we were taught to use, are ok. Just because it’s European, doesn’t make it better. Just because it’s American, doesn’t make it stupider. Just use the words you know, and you won’t embarrass yourself. </p>
<p>I think this whole silly “zed” thing is an affectation. The nicest people do it, but please stop. If we don’t talk like that, let’s not write like that. Let’s have the dignity of being ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: JoyB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454553</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-454161&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;HotFlash @ 158 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Somebody last night was wondering how we would connect if They froze up the tubes, did we have snail addresses or phone numbers or anything.  And there were these crickets.  I am loathe to put personal contact info out for all, but connecting up in meat-based exercises from time to time is probably good insurance.  We may need it.  Sigh, Rayne is right I should get myself to a DL or something.  Although I hate joining things.  I invariably over-commit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hotflash, I read your comment and it really stuck. I just hate to always be putting “me, too!” posts in the commentary here. I’ll say this, my friend Strategerie (also comments here) was without power for DAYS after that horrible snowstorm, and I was really glad that we’d already exchanged phone and mailing addresses. We did communicate offline during that time and I updated other people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find that I have two lives and two sets of friends now - my political activist crowd, and the friends of work/daycare mommies.  There is growing overlap between the two, but my virtual friends are the political, and could be completely lost to me in a day.  Your post made me think about that. We could all be disconnected with little or no effort.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-454161"><em>HotFlash @ 158 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Somebody last night was wondering how we would connect if They froze up the tubes, did we have snail addresses or phone numbers or anything.  And there were these crickets.  I am loathe to put personal contact info out for all, but connecting up in meat-based exercises from time to time is probably good insurance.  We may need it.  Sigh, Rayne is right I should get myself to a DL or something.  Although I hate joining things.  I invariably over-commit.</p>
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<p>Hotflash, I read your comment and it really stuck. I just hate to always be putting “me, too!” posts in the commentary here. I’ll say this, my friend Strategerie (also comments here) was without power for DAYS after that horrible snowstorm, and I was really glad that we’d already exchanged phone and mailing addresses. We did communicate offline during that time and I updated other people.</p>
<p>I find that I have two lives and two sets of friends now &#8211; my political activist crowd, and the friends of work/daycare mommies.  There is growing overlap between the two, but my virtual friends are the political, and could be completely lost to me in a day.  Your post made me think about that. We could all be disconnected with little or no effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Olson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454548</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-454012&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mary McCurnin @&lt;br /&gt;
                15              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have this fantasy. It is pure and unrealistic. I envision the CIA or someone who has power moving into the WH and removing George and Dick and the rest of the evil fuckers. And then they give us back our country. Does this mean that the usual channels of remedy are useless? Or am I way off base. Like on jupiter.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the job of our elected officials.  It is past time for impeachment.  I have contacted my senators, but my rep is hopeless.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-454012"><em>Mary McCurnin @<br />
                15              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I have this fantasy. It is pure and unrealistic. I envision the CIA or someone who has power moving into the WH and removing George and Dick and the rest of the evil fuckers. And then they give us back our country. Does this mean that the usual channels of remedy are useless? Or am I way off base. Like on jupiter.</p>
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<p>This is the job of our elected officials.  It is past time for impeachment.  I have contacted my senators, but my rep is hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: P J Evans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454533</link>
		<dc:creator>P J Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The father of a friend was a photographer with the US Army in Europe. He saw the camps. And took pictures of them. I don’t know what kind of dreams he had, but I know he had problems afterward.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The father of a friend was a photographer with the US Army in Europe. He saw the camps. And took pictures of them. I don’t know what kind of dreams he had, but I know he had problems afterward.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul MillR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/12/late-nite-fdl-tickticktick/#comment-454485</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul MillR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bush is Captain Queeg.&lt;br /&gt;
Joe Liberman is SuckUpJoe.&lt;br /&gt;
Never trust someone who slicks down his hair and parts it like it’s 1965 (Lindsey Graham).  Are they all sick or what&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush is Captain Queeg.<br />
Joe Liberman is SuckUpJoe.<br />
Never trust someone who slicks down his hair and parts it like it’s 1965 (Lindsey Graham).  Are they all sick or what</p>
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