
Much of the GOP's success in being able to put over its most venal policies can be attributed to its skill with PR spin, packaging ideas as something they are not. And that is largely dependent on the use of language, twisting and turning it to more flattering angles that will obscure the worst aspects of their proposals. One of the most frustrating aspects of reading traditional media is the unquestioned willingness to perpetuate this bastardization of language for political purposes, and untangling that linguistic mess has fueled many a liberal blog post.
And so we visit the term "surge," which is currently being adopted to describe the upcoming troop increase in Iraq that Bush is expected to announce tonight. From the LA Times:
What infuriates critics of the war, including many liberal Democrats, is that they see "surge" as a manipulative and deceptive word. It implies a relatively short-term increase in the U.S. military commitment, they say, when the White House intends to keep the additional troops in Iraq much longer, perhaps for several years.
Even worse, critics say, the news media have uncritically accepted the word and thus contributed to deceiving the public.
"I've noticed a complete acceptance on the part of most of the MSM [mainstream media] (and Congress) to accept the White House nomenclature," blogger Nicole Belle wrote in a complaint posted on crooksandliars.com.
"After six years of this, I think we all know that he who frames the debate and chooses the vocabulary wins from the beginning. Let's be sure to not accept the White House framing, no matter how wimped out the MSM is."
As the Washington Post pointed out this morning, the word "surge" doesn't appear in the Department of Defense’s official Dictionary of Military Terms, but the word escalation certainly does:
The very vagueness of "surge" might make it the politically perfect word for what is likely to be a controversial policy. Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the new House speaker, framed her apparent opposition to sending more troops to Iraq by using a more freighted substitute: "escalation."
Meanwhile, as Brad DeLong reminds us:
Keane-Kagan-Kristol "surge" plan proposed last fall said that we needed not 20,000 but 50,000 additional combat troops were needed to break the vicious circle of insurgency in Iraq. 50,000 is a "surge." 20,000 is more like a "wave":
Kagan and Kristol: Time for a Heavier Footprint: [A]s long as the Sunni Arab insurgency continues… the Shiite community [will not] abandon the [militia and death squad] forces it sees as essential for its self-defense. And as long as the Shiite militias.. victimize Sunni Arabs… Sunni Arab insurgent leaders [will stay away from]… the negotiating table…. The question of troop levels in Iraq is fundamental.… [S]erious people… concede we need more troops…. [S]urging 50,000… will strain a strained military further. But… we can do it–if we think success in Iraq is a national priority…
Keane, Kagan, and Kristol appear to have scrubbed the American Enterprise Institute website of their original 50,000 number.
Nevertheless, I am astonished that I cannot find a single mainstream news reporter who finds the cutback of the proposed "surge" from 50,000 to 20,000 worth mentioning, even in passing, except for Gideon Rachman of the Financial Times.
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Since then, Robin Wright and Peter Baker have forgotten–or remembered but tried hard to make their readers forget–the size the "surge" was originally supposed to be. And others like Michael Abramowitz, Sally Quinn, Richard Cohen, Howard Kurtz, Jonathan Weisman, Bill Brubaker, Joel Achenbach, Joshua Partlow, Shailagh Murray, Al Kamen, Ann Scott Tyson, George F. Will, Jim Hoagland, Rick Atkinson, Dana Priest, David Ignatius, Robert D. Novak, and a host of wire service reporters have all managed to write about the forthcoming surge of troops into Iraq without finding space to mention that the original "surge" of 50,000 has been cut back to a much smaller "wave" of 20,000. Now I wouldn't have expected everyone writing over the past nine days to notice the cutback from surge to wave. But somebody should have. That's 0-for-19 of those drawing paychecks from the Washington Post.
Short term memory loss. Another pernicious journalisming problem.
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Fitz!
not off topic, jane, you have to watch this a ancient queen you tube, it is so aprapoe to what we are going through today, it’s as if they were watching through a looking glass when they made it
it’s the very first video I fell in love with for the sake of the art
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEI4U5KyAS0
Wow! Zed?
Bam !
Rats !
Hi Jane!
E & P had a great article on the word “surge” a week or two ago.
http://www.editorandpublisher……1003525778
“Surge” is a euphimism, I think to obscure what they’re really doing. I can just imagine Karl Rove conducting focus groups on the issue of what to call this escalation:
Wonder how many sleepless nights they had before they settled on that one?
LindyH @ 2
Yes, I see it. It’s a miracle!!!
“To surge or not to surge”? Decision’s made. The only question now is: can/will Congress stop him?
And let’s not forget: it was the Republicans who turned “liberal” into a bad word, and made people afraid to say they were liberals. Bush himself is no good at words, but the Republican strategists are. Somebody fed him this term, and now he’s force-feeding it to the gullible, pliant MSM. All of us need to keep shouting back “Escalation!” every time we hear “surge.”
BTW, while researching for my own article on this subject, I ran across this NYTimes article on the war:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12…..mp;emc=rss
The photo’s a visual metaphor for what our efforts over there are acheiving.
So W’s is the Wee Surge? And, when it fails (as I hope it won’t) there’ll be more arguments made for the Big Surge? This evil will not end; Ted Kennedy’s comparison of W to LBJ seems even more apt now.
And why does the WaPo characterize Nancy Pelosi’s accurate use of the word “escalation” as framing? Suddenly, Democrats are accused of framing, while the White House’s Orwellian use of English has been accepted uncritically since 2001?
Lt. Gen. David H. Petraeus, the Surgin’ General.
And once the surge subsides, here’s a perfect spot for BushCo to retire to — especially Cheeny.
They think if they can get away with ’surge’ that people will forget that ’surge’ doesn’t mean ‘long-term increase’. Waves surge. Storms surge. More than two months and it’s an escalation.
I have words to describe these guys, but they’d likely melt wires.
Incidentally, Hunter over at dKos has a wonderful post up about ‘civility’.
What I find particularly offensive, aside from the actual deeds, is that the MSM and the Bush guys take it for granted that I am too stupid or whatever, to see what they’re doing with their clumsy word games and PR sh’t. These guys do not approach cleverness. And Bush himself is the least clever of the bunch. I have to watch myself on this topic, I could begin to think in terms of getting angry.
Just signed up to go to a “No Escalation” rally tomorrow. I don’t think it will stop Bush (what ever has?). But I’m going anyway.
Earlier, I heard Noron say that W spent hours Tuesday practicing his speech.
Honestly, until the MSM buildings are rotting and empty save for squatters, until their tired shell of bobbling-head pap finally ends, until the market for merely-echoed press releases dries up, there can be no more integrity in journamalismics.
I don’t understand what b43 is trying to achieve here. 4,000 more troops to cover 53,000 square miles… and whatever drop in the bucket he’s promising for Baghdad. This isn’t a genuine attempt by the president to secure for himself and his legacy one last chance at making Iraq work.. maybe 100,000 or 200,000 additional troops would do that, maybe… this is just political posturing, for him to show himself that the Unitary Executive still has the ability to stick it to Congress and the American people.
My understanding is there will be no response to the Bush speak tonight? Well… that’s okay. But my party better have something to say about it tomorrow and the next day…
Hi all — guess who sneaked out to check her e-mail while everyone else was napping? Vacation is great. Very relaxed. Missing the blogging though — needed my FDL fix. *g*
Why not send in a surge of electricians and get their power back on?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
Actually, I think they kind of already have responded.. perhaps the first time the naked inanity of a presidential policy announcement was so self-evident that the rebuttal (which was kind of given at 1pm today) could be safely given ahead of the actual announcement. b43 isn’t just treading water here.. he’s trying to cough it out of his lungs while submerged.
Just a little word association here…
surge
storm
hurricane
katrina
new orleans
I see more dead people.
you know what?
this in one single nut shell describes the strategy from the neo cons in office and it works on the morons that follow them
“the patriot act” trashes our constitution and is anything but patriotic
the “clean air acts” give corporate polluters free reign
their natural resource bills pillage planet earth
their “tax relief” bills raise real taxes for all but the wealthy
their “education bills” take funding and resources from educational institutions
their bills to fund our armed forces take money from our military and give it to private industry
their national defense policy depletes our national defense
it goes on and on
when they plan on pillaging the middle class all they have to do is name it the opposite and they get people to go along
and there are those of us that fall for this juvenile marketing strategy
we are morons aren’t we?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 22
Oh I do hope the bird watching is fine! Wonderful to hear from you Christy (( )).
Hi Christy! Now get back to…napping! ;-)
Well done, Jane. It’s encouraging to see many of the Dems using the term “escalation,” some even correcting themselves in mid-sentence to let people make the connection.
Between Newtie and Frank Luntz, they certainly have tried to permanently fuck up the language….
But, if your policy ideas suck, all you’ve got left is Madison Avenue BS.
Meanwhile …
Why George?
(waves at Christy,quietly.I miss you,I know everyone else does too)
Surge? I’m with OK Kiddo,I’m sick of these dipshits treating me like I’m stupid. The base might be dumb,but the rest of us aren’t so damned clueless.
They have nothing but contempt for the American people. I can only speak for myself,but the feeling is well beyond mutual.
Blub @ 20
On the subject of the importance of words: The distinction has been made on this blog that the danger of Bush is his claim to a Unilateral Executive. The Executive branch is already unitary, in that the overwhelming majority of it is under the authority and control of the president. Think of a standard organization chart: the branches all go to the top, the CEO.
Unilateral, OTOH, means independent of the Legislative and Judicial branches, and in Bushworld, this means not answerable to. . .
TeddySanFran @ 18
I thought he’d been practicing the same speech for four years.
So Bush is going to try to convince Americans that his real mistake was in not sending more troops to Iraq sooner?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 22
Hey there! Good to hear from ya. It’s like the sun just peeked out here in gray Portland.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 34
So it would seem. In fairness, it’s one of the mistakes he made.
Letterman has a preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o2ITsPxI6U
Oklahoma kiddo @ 35
If he does that, the noise you’ll hear in the background will be Shinseki pounding his head on his desk….
Hi Christy. Hope you’re getting lots of relaxation in before Plamegate kicks off.
They test-marketed “Operation Endless Carnage”, but it didn’t do well…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
This SURGE needs to be mocked as the vanity exercise it is. Warmonger supporters like Old Lord McCain and RGJoe must be laughed off the political stage, starting at 9:22 Eastern tonite. I’m especially fond of Democrats saying “The generals don’t support this escalation….”
Off topic,but has anyone else noticed that Froomkin’s spot on the editorial-opinion list has been moved to one place from the bottom?
He’s offering a partial and unsubstantial mea culpa in exchange for sending more Americans to die for a political powerplay.. to show that he CAN.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 35
It blows my mind that these guys are still relevant after November’s elections.
Maybe it shouldn’t; the AEI/Heritage Fnd/Neocon think tank echo chambers provide all the ME foreign policy talking points to both parties, equally… In the end, I bet Hillary, Biden, Hoyer will quietly support the surge.
montag @ 39
oh kla homer, I quote you too much
anyway;
HOLY CROW!
why don’t we get shinseki’s opinion on this escalation?
MAN that would be GR8!
DMM @ 43
It’s Washington Post policy–the more traffic you drive to the site, the closer to the bottom you get. That way, the losers have a chance….
A commentor on NPR noted the choice of the word surge was to counter the word insurgents, because of the similar word roots. It is pure packaging. Hence surge is the lexical antidote to insurgency. Whether it is the military antidote is debatable — NOT!
Get your “Endless War” ribbons while they last: http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..s-war.html
Publicus at 41 — I like that — with a slight tweak to reflect the idiocy that is Bush:
“Operation Endless Failure”
Pretty much sums up the entire presidency in one tidy phrase, doesn’t it?
An excellent point that cannot be overstated. The republicans have been framing the issues in large part with language and they own the debate because they’ve named it. Therefore, you lose the second you accept the challenge.
Watch Douglass Rushkoff’s excellent PBS Frontline special “The Persuaders” if you want to see just how pernicious and dishonest guys like Frank Luntz are.
Montag,
Thanks for clearing that up for me.Makes sense I guess,its almost the only thing I go to WaPo to read
Oh, and the fact that Joe Haldeman’s worst nightmares are coming true with this idiotic mess — that just makes it worse, doesn’t it? Forever war, indeed…SIGH
kemo @ 45
Shh, listen? I do believe I hear that silent support, right now. *s*
(bold added)
The Senate is going to have a vote on this so-called “Surge”? What happens, if anything, if 60 or more Senators vote to oppose sending more troops?
I think the minimum wage bill vote is now being taken
Publicus @
41
I’m gonna use that.
TeddySanFran @ 12
I am waiting for FOX news to take Kennedy’s words out of context. You, know the part where he is quoting LBJ, and almost sounds like a neocon. They will play that sound bite, over and over to “prove” even Kennedy supports the surge. Leaving out the context of course.
DMM @ 52
Oh, I was being facetious….
Sometimes, with me, it’s hard to tell. :)
oh, CNN is just reporting part of the plan will call for troop tours will be (further) extended, leaves (again) cancelled and more national guard called up. Yep. Real good for morale. Shrub does understand the tactical importance of morale doesn’t he?
“Suuuurge. Da Surge-Man. Surgeriiiino!”
Eureka at 27 — The birding is amazing here. Today, for example, we drove to a bird sanctuary area out in the marshes and walked around a bit. Saw an entire flock of ibis, feeding in the shallows, along with a couple of kingfishers. And out a bit, a few isolated Great Blue Herons (one gorgeous fellow who was fully plumed and quite proud of himself as he strutted around looking for a fish in the area he had staked out for himself) and several snowy egrets. Just gorgeous. And there is a birdfeeder just off the balcony of our condo that is constantly invaded by the most hilarious squirrel family, who are chided by a pair of Carolina wrens at every opportunity.
We are loving it. The beach is gorgeous, and not crowded at all this time of year. Vacation heaven. And now, I should get back to it…great to type at you guys. :)
Lets just put it all on the line here…
Surge equals a power play orgasm to Bushco.
I’m a bit confused, is the Senate going to vote on the bill that Kennedy introduced, or are they going to just vote on the surge aka escalation?
Breaking news from ABC:
‘LEADING EDGE’ OF TROOP SURGE HAS ARRIVED IN BAGHDAD, ABC NEWS HAS LEARNED
315 to 116 Minimum Wage passed!!
Eureka Springs, AR @ 66
Well, now we know who was taking big money from the national Chamber of Commerce….
Christy – I can’t wait to hear all about it at our next Pull Up A Chair. Hugs to Peanut from all of us.
Blub @ 60
not only moral blub but it makes it impossible to recruit new officers for our national defense
this is where the progressives have to go, they have to point out where the troops are coming from and what it does to our armed forces ability to replenish
we need to take the patriotisuc road on this and all discussion when it comes to this presidents bizarre vision
Eureka Springs, AR @ 66
Sorry, not yet. That was the defeat of the Republican procedural motion to reconsider. I think they’re getting ready to take the real vote now.. purely a formality, and the vote will be the same, I think. Which means, veto proof. Yaaahoo!
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 65
W has Jumped the Surge
Never mind.. I think they’re going to do the final vote tomorrow.
Blub @ 60
This war’s waging seems to be W working out his issues with the National Guard — by breaking it.
Blub @ 70
I haven’t heard about the bill’s prospects in the Senate. Will they have 60 votes? (Unfortunately, I think 67 votes in the Senate is going to be a stretch).
Blub @
20
I think he’s certainly doing that, but near the end of the year he will declare ‘victory’ due to his “new” policies and propose a withdrawal schedule over the next two or three years after, trying to take the wind out of the Dems sails for 08 and set up St. John. I might be wrong—the GOP has shown zero effectiveness at anything else, but…PR and lies are their only talent…and the MSM would eat it up like the lapdogs they are…so…
punaise @ 71
man, he does whatever he wants to do without regard to anything or anyone
palosi better be livid
Blub – Thanks for the correction. Bird and Bill watching will do that to a pupster…)
punaise @ 71
It’s probably current troops getting orders to extend…
Actually. .sorry.. my bad for trying to multi-task. I’m wrong. You’re right Eureka. It’s done. We’ve now passed two pieces of legislation.
Here is my take, in 2 parts:
Two key points need to be kept in mind with whatever Bush announces this evening. First, he has gotten everything wrong that he could get wrong in Iraq and he has done it for 4 f*cking years. The likelihood of him getting it right this time is about the same as those monkeys randomly typing out a copy of Shakespeare’s plays. Second, you can’t fix a problem if you don’t know what it is. As I have said many times here, sectarian violence supposes that the government is to some degree outside and above the conflict. In a civil war, the government (if it still exists) belongs to one of the sides and is an active participant. This is the current situation in Iraq. Supporting the “government” in Iraq is essentially taking the Shia side in the civil war. A reconciliation process while you are backing one of the sides is not only futile it’s stupid.
Bush proposes sending 4,000 more troops (I assume Marines) to Anbar province. Anbar comprises about a third of the surface area of Iraq and is roughly the size of a midsized American state, larger than Pennsylvania, a shade smaller than New York, for example. Does anyone seriously think this increase will make a difference there?
Bush proposes sending 17,500 more troops to Baghdad. Baghdad has a population of between 5 to 6 million inhabitants. This is about twice the population of Chicago (metropolitan area excluded). If you wish to include the metro area, then think of something between Dallas-Fort Worth and Boston. This is essentially a policing mission. Did I mention that our troops don’t speak the language, know the area, or understand the culture (even after 4 years)? There have been suggestions that these troops will go after not just Sunni groups but the popular Shia leader Muqtada al Sadr. Going after Muqtada would probably lead to large scale urban warfare. It would antagonize many Shia not just in Baghdad but throughout the country and escalate the Iraqi conflict from a one front (against the Sunni) to a two front (against the Sunni and the Shia) war. Mindlessly stupid does not even begin to cover such a move.
Much of Bush’s plan depends on actions of the Iraqi government and Nouri al Maliki. (Insert derisive laughter here.) This is the same Iraqi government that took a 175 days to form itself even as the country was falling into full blown civil war. This is the same Iraqi government whose national assembly seldom meets because as Juan Cole likes to point out most of its members spend most of their time outside the country (because it’s safer and they can afford to). As for Maliki, he seems to vie with Bush in the sphere of lack of accomplishments. He was resistant to the idea of an American troop escalation because his bud Muqtada was against it. Muqtada a nationalist, a thug, but not an Iranian stooge wants us out of the way so he can take on the Sunnis or anyone else who stands between himself and power. Maliki’s acceptance of more American troops is not an indication that he is buying into the Bush plan but rather that he thinks he can use them against Sunnis and insulate Muqtada and Sadr City from them. Also you have to look at the makeup of the Iraqi contribution to the Baghdad operation. Of the 3 Iraqi brigades promised, 2 are supposed to be made up of Kurdish peshmerga. I am sure the Shia Maliki has no problem in seeing Sunni Arabs and Kurds (who are also Sunni) fighting each other. Why should he care? Some Kurdish leaders have already expressed doubts about this idea. They see a lot of downside in weakening themselves for the benefit of the Shia and fear an Arab-Kurdish conflict spreading from Baghdad into areas closer to home like Mosul and Kirkuk.
Part 2:
The military aspects of Bush’s plan are a little like irrigating the desert by spitting at it. Even if the modest troop increase of the Bush plan could establish some minimum level of security in Baghdad, it is not clear how long such security could be maintained. Insurgencies have a way of adapting. Moreover, the troop increase though modest can not be sustained without serious damage to our overall force structure around the world and will leave us less able to deal with other problems as they arise. Nor is it likely the Iraqi army will step up to challenge and replace us. Despite all the reports of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis trained, Iraq continues to lack a real military, and that by the way is by our design since we have controlled the process. It lacks logistics, command and control, heavy weapons, discipline, and an esprit de corps. Many of its members, such as the proposed peshmerga units mentioned above, clearly have allegiances other than to the central government.
Putting in new US commanders will have no effect on these realities. The choice of the Navy’s Admiral Fallon to head CENTCOM is a net negative for the land conflict in Iraq (not to mention Afghanistan) although it does fuel conspiracy theory speculation about a possible attack on Iran in which naval forces would play a large role. On the other hand, General Petraeus is an excellent candidate to promote the Bush escalation in Iraq. He had some good ideas a few years ago in keeping with the new Bush line about what was needed in Iraq. His problem is that the situation in Iraq has evolved a lot since then while his thinking has not. All in all, he epitomizes the limitation of the military’s “can do” philosophy, which is the failure to see that some things can’t be done, and more importantly weren’t worth doing anyway.
I could go on. A billion dollars in aid will achieve nothing but make a few corrupt Iraqis richer. A Petroleum Law is needed and might, if written correctly, be politically useful in addressing one complaint of the Sunnis but because of the absence of any effective security in the country it would have no practical impact on Iraq’s oil industry. No matter how greedy you think oil companies are the simple truth is that Iraq is just too dangerous for them, and looks like remaining so for the foreseeable future.
In short, this is the Bush plan: more of the same only more so. It’s all too little, too late, and going in the wrong direction. Given his track record, could we expect anything else?
Blub @ 70
some Republicans were duped into supporting this. they thought it was about raising the minimum for making passes at page(s).
Ah, the spin: a story on CNN.com quotes a WH spokesbot that Bush was ‘quite upset’ about the Hussein video.
In other news: former deputy Interior secretary Griles and assistant AG (environment and natural resources) Wooldridge are in trouble; fallout from Abramoff.
Pelosi has banned smoking in the Speaker’s Lobby.
And the CNN.com poll is asking who’s responsible for ending sectarian violence in Iraq. It’s currently standing at 86% ‘Iraq’ and 14% ‘US’: yet another one where the wingnuts are on the short end.
To Eureka’s announcement on passage of the minimum wage bill I forgot that Roberts rules in this case doesn’t require a second vote after the procedural motion fails, since the result would, inevitably, be exactly the same since no new motions could be made at that point. House rules can be procedurally arcane :)
Howie’s got some discouraging news about Max Baucus (D?-Montana) doing the bidding of the corporatists already on the Senate side, in his role as Senate Finance Chair.
Why can’t Pelosi make the Senate take up her clean and veto-proof bills on MinWage and HoSec?
Surge? HAHaei
The temperature here has gone from minus 35 degress F to plus 5 in eight hours. That’s a surge.
My washing machine fills up with water before it starts to spin. That’s a surge.
And so on. Adding 20,000 additional troops to Iraq over a four-month period is NOT a surge. It barely qualifies as an escalation. Strategically, it is a blip. One more platoon per thousand fucking square miles. What Bush is doing by adopting the AEI limited modified hangout, is attempting to create a climate where the media focuses on his critics rather than his continuing, his escalating, HIS FUCKING SURGING UNPOPULARITY. All this at the same time he uses the force deployment as a sort of camouflage for the real reason for the realignment of forces.
This will go down as Rove and Cheney’s Battle of the Bulge. Only Rove and Cheney aren’t playing the roles they think they are here – Patton and McAuliffe. They’re playing the roles of Hitler and Wilhelm Keitel.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 62
We were out walking along a bluff above the ocean recently and saw a blue heron stalking, but no water. Just when I had the binocs focused he suddenly struck and pulled out a nice fat gopher, beak up, down that rodent went. Wow! I had no idea they would eat land critters.
perris @ 26
It’s all about marketing. Packaging a war to make it more palatable to the public.
marksb @ 86
I had no idea they would eat land critters.
They like the occasional hot meal, and they’re really well-equipped to get the burrowing critters. (You ought to see them perched in trees!)
Any idea if this case could be the sealed indictment of Rove?
USA v. DOE, 2006-cr-00227, judge on the case is Reggie Walton. They had a status conference on 12/15/06.
perris @ 76
Guess he had to get back at her for the minimum wage bill. No good deed . . .
mandrake @ 87
I’ve never forgotten”You don’t launch new product in August.”
Marketing indeed
About PR etc. I saw this in the local rag’s coverage this AM. They splice some unknown wire w/local reporting (Kennedy and WMass Reps quotes, which are scathing.)
http://www.masslive.com/news/t…..thispage=2
Near the end of the article….
Operation Smoking Mirrors
Tweeety just interviewed congressman Connor on ‘the surge.’ Asked him if all the liars will get medals as has been done in the past by this failed administrations. He then adds ‘ what do have to do, be in some kind of synchronized swim with these people.’ Ah, visualized McCain/Liarberman, and Chimp/Deadeye competition.
More, courtesy of Jim Rutenberg at the NYT, on those wily Democrats and their evil framing.
Excerpt:
*ilbo @ 94
calling darkblack, calling darkblack……..
Matthews says on Hardball that the only thing Bush has accomplished in Iraq is creating a “Shia Crescent”. Once in a while, Matthews gets it right.
Scarecrow’s post is turning heads at memeorandum, fyi.
Lefties and righties are taking notice. Kudos!
Oil. That’s what it’s been about from the beginning. And the only barrels of liquid so far to come our way has been blood.
OffTopic but worth noting:
Teddy’s rabble rousing for NATIONAL HEALTH CARE.
http://www.nysun.com/article/46438
al-jazeera has the same AP story.
That’s my gutsy Senator!
Hugh @
81
This just in, apparently the Gods of Statistical Probability have smiled and the monkeys have actually completed an exact copy of the the first folio’s version of The Comedy of Errors
The Bard smiles!
mandrake @ 91
palosi can come out with something like;
“while making believe he was going to act with bipartisan participation, instead the president has acted without regard to the will of his boss, the American people, without regard to congress.
with this action the president has declared war on the constitution of the United States of America and we will not allow America and her constitution to be defeated by this act…”
dot dot friggin dot
Sparkles the Iguana @
90
Do you have a link, please?
Check out Evil Pammy’s website. She’s basically put up shrubs speech based on some conference call the rightyblogs had with snowjob just now.
Thank you, Jane.
Though I do think you could have gone farther into the pr/marketing aspects of why “surge.” Though “Surging to defeat” should now become a new catchphrase. I think it’s catchy.
TeddySanFran @
18
yeah, he’s still learning some of the words. The speech might be more interesting if the word ’surge’ is substituted with the word ’spurt’. I’ll check when the transcript comes out and let y’all know.
Jane – nice post, thanks.
a surge recedes but any announced reduction has never been acceptable so a permanent surge cajn only be called an escalation?
Via Froomkin,
Oklahoma kiddo @ 99
it wasn’t about getting the oil, it wasn’t about having the oil, it was about controlling the oil
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 103
Just the court schedule -
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/CourtSched.pl
Heads-up for the FDL Citizen Journalist Brigade, from a Judge Walton Order today:
LIVE BLOGGING IS PERMITTED on laptop computers in the First Floor Media Center (which will have a live feed from the trial courtroom).
Some of the other details include no electronic devices, including laptop computers, will be allowed in the trial courtroom [Courtroom 16] by the public. Credentialed press must be seated 15 minutes before the start of proceedings or forfeit their seat. Courtroom 17 is the overflow courtroom (not 5; for legal tourists et al), along with the First Floor Media Center. I can’t tell if laptop computers are banned from Courtroom 17 too, or not (they may be banned from only 16). Seating in 17 will be first come, first served.
Hats Off to Judge Walton’s accommodation of live trial blogging!
perris @ 109
It wasn’t about getting the oil, it wasn’t about having the oil, it wasn’t even so much about controlling the oil; it was about making sure Iran/Russia/China DIDN’T get the oil. But maybe that’s what you mean by ‘controlling’.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 110
Oops, it reverts to today’s schedule. You have to input the date 12/15/06.
kemo @
45
Speaking of Hillary…
From Who is Planning Our Next War ?
The REAL reason for the ’surge’.
…emphasis mine…
rumi @ 106
premature escalation
Eureka Springs, AR @
23
Oh my dear – if only you were sitting in the Oval Office instead of the war mongering Smirk!
Some key points from Snowjobs comments as reported by Evil Pammy (so that we don’t need to give her any extra hits)… it sounds like utter crap.. stuff we should’ve been doing all along, and if we haven’t been doing all along, we shouldn’t start doing now…
“Help Iraqis protect the population;
Isolate extremists;
Create space for political progress;
Diversify political and economic efforts; and Situate the strategy in a regional approach.
Key Elements Of The New Approach: Security”
“Publicly acknowledge all parties are responsible for quelling sectarian violence.”
“Increase efforts to support tribes willing to help Iraqis fight Al Qaeda in Anbar.”
“Increase Iraqi security force capacity – both size and effectiveness – from 10 to 13 Army divisions, 36 to 41 Army Brigades, and 112 to 132 Army Battalions.”
“Establish a National Operations Center, National Counterterrorism Force, and National Strike Force.”
“Act on promised reconciliation initiatives (oil law, de-Baathification law, Provincial elections). Give Coalition and ISF authority to pursue ALL extremists.”
“All Iraqi leaders support reconciliation.”
“Support political moderates so they can take on the extremists.”
“Expand and increase the flexibility of the Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT) footprint. Focus U.S. political, security, and economic resources at local level to open space for moderates, with initial priority to Baghdad and Anbar. “
“Decentralize efforts to build Iraqi capacities outside the Green Zone.”
“Double the number of PRTs and civilians serving outside the Green Zone. Establish PRT-capability within maneuver Brigade Combat Teams (BCTs).”
“Key Elements Of The New Approach: Regional
Iraq”
“Intensify efforts to counter Iranian and Syrian influence inside Iraq.”
“Increase military presence in the region.”
punaise @ 115
If Lieberman supports the surge, I hope the people of CT will realize their electile dysfunction.
I’ve been critical of Judge Walton and I’d like to say that I was wrong in some of my judgments of him if this decision, as it appears, is genuine.
This is so much fun that I could just Surge my pants!
perris @ 76
According to news reports of her and Reid’s meeting with the President, she already is.
I EPDU’s this from earlier.
OK , this is what the AEI has on their site:There is a way to do this.
We must change our focus from training Iraqi soldiers to securing the Iraqi population and containing the rising violence. Securing the population has never been the primary mission of the U.S. military effort in Iraq, and now it must become the first priority.
We must send more American combat forces into Iraq and especially into Baghdad to support this operation. A surge of seven Army brigades and Marine regiments to support clear-and-hold operations starting in the spring of 2007 is necessary, possible, and will be sufficient.
These forces, partnered with Iraqi units, will clear critical Sunni and mixed Sunni-Shi’a neighborhoods, primarily on the west side of the city.
After the neighborhoods have been cleared, U.S. soldiers and Marines, again partnered with Iraqis, will remain behind to maintain security.
As security is established, reconstruction aid will help to reestablish normal life and, working through Iraqi officials, will strengthen Iraqi local government.
So our troops are going to “remain behind”. Behind what? In the Nam you were in the bush or in the rear. In Iraq they call the “rear” Forward Observation Bases. From what I can gather there are very few troops who sleep outside the FOB (in the bus). So they are now going to have the grunts set up in the neighborhoods and hang on? Then what? Sounds like a perfect set up to me.
Thank god for James Carvelle. His idiotic coments affter the election unified Democrats at a time we could have splintered and started infighting.
In all seriousness, we owe a debt to that addle-brained man.
FYI, Tuesday’s Fresh Air With Terry Gross (WHYY) featured an interview with Frank Luntz
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..Id=6761960
Be prepared to scream.
Hugh @ 80
Plus as I’ve mentioned before go do a Google Earth of Baghdad and note the closeness of the buildings, the narrow streets, the square-mile blocks of buildings; viewing the layout of the city brings it home: this would be a horrible place to have to fight an urban battle.
“Surge” is already underway per ABC news. Why should we have thought that the Dems would have any sort of chance to stop it?
johnSwifty @ 118
The only other option is a well timed pull-out but we know how hard that can be to achieve.
profbacon @ 123
Was he involved in selling out the Gore campaign to his wife the same way he sold out Kerry? If so, we can thank him for not having Lieberman as veep.
rumi -nice zig repair!
marksb @ 125
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Plus as I’ve mentioned before go do a Google Earth of Baghdad and note the closeness of the buildings, the narrow streets, the square-mile blocks of buildings; viewing the layout of the city brings it home: this would be a horrible place to have to fight an urban battle.
This isn’t a military escalation. It’s a political escalation at the military’s expense.. shrub cannot honestly care how these soldiers are supposed to fight there or if they succeed militarily… it’s just about sending a signal that he, and not Congress, is still in charge. It’s just brinksmenship.
The 3rd ID at Stewart is moving out now but I think it was scheduled. Remember they do this shit with smoke and mirrors. In September 1969 we began to “withdraw” from Vietnam by standing down some 9th ID units and transferring their troops elsewhere. They counted the normal DEROS people as “withdrawn”.
moe99 @ 126
Bush sends more troops. No doubt, many of them are just being extended. All are at risk and many will die. Yet somehow the lack of service by anyone from his family is perfectly acceptable to Conservatives and Republicans. Why is that?
Hugh @ 81
Well that’s convenient, isn’t it, for keeping that oil off the market and keeping the market price up.
(As an added bonus, Iraq’s oil will sit there while we (further) deplete existing fields, offering potential supplies—at a much nicer price—when the shortages start.)
No matter the out come of the Iraq war. We’ve “lost” the Middle East. Saving our soldiers and Iraqi civilians is what matters now.
So in Bush’ speech tonight, he’s going to stick out his tongue and say, “Neener neener neener, it’s too late, I already did it”.?
Oy, not the SPLURGE !!! Aaiiiieeeee
Now we gotta splurge for 21K new Military Tours.
………We interrupt this program…..
Why do they call it a Military Tour? WTF is that?…a gondola ride up the Mesopotamia?
Just call it what it is. A Military Killing Spree or Coast Guard Rampage.
I like amok. I volunteered today for a 4 year Military Amok .
The Navy could go on Military Benders.
I think “G” has indicated his preference for a Military Splurge, but he really has more experience with Benders. How about a Fling with the Marines?
They’ll be recruiting gays soon. You could sign up for a Military Twist
Sophist @ 114
That’s what caught my eye — a (ret.) Israeli general matter-of-factly saying Iraq is a failure. Has the MSM taken note?
punaise @ 129
hey…thanks! I toyed with the idea of cutting and pasting the nic-links to each individual comment but decided that I’m not that ambitious.
I would have thought a GNUffi would have compiled a stripper code by now to do the zig maintenance for us automatically.
Update from ABC News:
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Iraq…..id=2785532
Matthews wonders on Hardball, where Hillary is.
SusanD @ 17
Good for you! We’re going to one too … figure the least we can do is stand on the Westport bridge for a couple of hours, what with our son’s team flying into Baghdad airport earlier today being fired on 7 times during landing. Rock the boat.
Blub @ 130
There was a 7 hour firefight between insurgents and US troops trapped on a roof, yesterday.
A Battalion of 100, swell.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 139
Sophist @ 114
This is fascinating. I probably posted each of the separate parts of the article you quote from here at fdl over the past few weeks. Over the past four days, alternative and foreign papers and other media are starting to tie those elements together – the troop redeployments, the Gen. Tira remarks and the UK Times article about the IDF bunker buster training. Additionally, I’ve been pounding into the doggies Steny Hoyer’s statement that he’s speaking for the Dem leadership when he states unequivically that, when it comes to a possible pre-emptive strike against Iran, NOTHING is off the table.
And another nothing. Nothing is appearing in the US news media linking this stuff. Which makes you need to read and re-read what Tira is implying. What bothers me most as more background info comes into play is that Tira seems more and more not to be the loose cannon talking out of school that he initially appeared to be.
Here’s Gen. Tira’s original remarks from a YNet interview around New Years YNet, BTW, is the most active web news presence in its country of origin:
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Co…..75,00.html
Don’t think I can deal with Tucker tripe tonight.
There’s always Jim Lehhhherer
Oklahoma kiddo @ 145
Oklahoma kiddo @ 145
I thought Tucker’s contract only allows him to opine on Britney’s wardrobe these days.
johnSwifty @ 112
no, that wasn’t it
it’s about keeping the supply low so the prices can be high
that’s all this is about
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INDIAN HILL – Indian Hill lawyer and former congressional candidate Paul Hackett – armed with a loaded assault rifle – chased down three men in a car after it crashed into a fence at his home in the early morning hours of Nov. 19.
link
I just did and I guess it was removed because I cannot get in closer than countywide.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 145
just long enough for me to switch to CNN and then let MSNBC know I’ve done so at feedback@msnbc.com & dabrams@msnbc.com.
Oklahoma kiddo @
140
Who in the fuck cares?
raven @ 146
Good idea!
TeddySanFran @ 151
That’s a great idea but if I switch to the Spice Channel instead of CNN should I put that in the email?
Ed*ard Teller @ 144
I copied the Times bit and sent it to DiFi, with the reasonably polite request that we bring the troops home NOW and not fund more there.
so dare I ask who’s planning on watching the god king’s speech tonight?
Blub @ 156
Pass. Tryin’ to get through the rest of the day w/out meds.
oregondave @ 156
Pass, as well. Called a staff meeting instead. or scheduled a nap. anything.
Jane’s hot – new new thread.
TeddySanFran @
18
hmmm, reported it lasts twenty minutes???
This is not a “surge” or an “escalation” – it’s “put another log on the fire.”
Lou Costello: That’s what I’m trying to TELL you!!!
It’s about China and India (two fastest growing economies) not getting the oil. Didn’t Shrubbo just cut a deal to give NewKewLer(TM) plants to India… every kilowatt they generate with uranium is a kilowatt worth of oil for us to burn.
FLASH: There were spontaneous demonstrations in Washington DC today when it was announced that the chocolate ration was increased from 104 to 72 grams per week.