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		<title>By: cal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-451353</link>
		<dc:creator>cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-451061&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tim Wayne @ 172 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rayne at 74 said &lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;dolchstoss&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dolchstoss&lt;/em&gt; is a right-wing-myth/talking-point-strategy the right has employed over and over again, with increasing effectiveness. D’Souza’s book is merely the latest example. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Harper’s wrote about this right wing myth, “&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html&quot;&gt;Stabbed in the Back!&lt;/a&gt;” last year. It’s a great take-down of the &lt;em&gt;dolchstoss strategy&lt;/em&gt; the right falls back on time and time again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Highly recommend Tim Wayne’s (172) comment.  Follow the link he provided to the Harper’s article.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I read it last summer and especially recommend it for people under 60 (seriously)who may not be terribly familiar with recent history.  It will all be oddly familiar.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-451061"><em>Tim Wayne @ 172 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Rayne at 74 said <b><em>dolchstoss</em></b>. </p>
<p><em>Dolchstoss</em> is a right-wing-myth/talking-point-strategy the right has employed over and over again, with increasing effectiveness. D’Souza’s book is merely the latest example. </p>
<p>Harper’s wrote about this right wing myth, “<a href="http://www.harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html">Stabbed in the Back!</a>” last year. It’s a great take-down of the <em>dolchstoss strategy</em> the right falls back on time and time again.</p>
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<p>Highly recommend Tim Wayne’s (172) comment.  Follow the link he provided to the Harper’s article.</p>
<p>I read it last summer and especially recommend it for people under 60 (seriously)who may not be terribly familiar with recent history.  It will all be oddly familiar.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Wayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-451061</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rayne at 74 said &lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;dolchstoss&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dolchstoss&lt;/em&gt; is a right-wing-myth/talking-point-strategy the right has employed over and over again, with increasing effectiveness. D’Souza’s book is merely the latest example. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Harper’s wrote about this right wing myth, “&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html&quot;&gt;Stabbed in the Back!&lt;/a&gt;” last year. It’s a great take-down of the &lt;em&gt;dolchstoss strategy&lt;/em&gt; the right falls back on time and time again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rayne at 74 said <b><em>dolchstoss</em></b>. </p>
<p><em>Dolchstoss</em> is a right-wing-myth/talking-point-strategy the right has employed over and over again, with increasing effectiveness. D’Souza’s book is merely the latest example. </p>
<p>Harper’s wrote about this right wing myth, “<a href="http://www.harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html">Stabbed in the Back!</a>” last year. It’s a great take-down of the <em>dolchstoss strategy</em> the right falls back on time and time again.</p>
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		<title>By: cgeye</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-450259</link>
		<dc:creator>cgeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course, in blaming the larger left we ignore the threat that almost brought down our country in the ’50s:  The Jack Cummings faction allied with the Arthur Freed Unit of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You think I jest??  Observe:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Qutb’s sense of extreme moral precariousness comes to the fore in every encounter. Few men past the age of 40 can ever have felt their immortal souls to be in such danger at a church hop as Qutb did when he attended one in Greeley, Colorado. The pastor, doubling as disc jockey, lowered the lights to impart “a romantic, dreamy effect” and put on a record of Baby, It’s Cold Outside (presumably the Esther Williams and Ricardo Montalban version, from the soundtrack of the 1949 hit movie Neptune’s Daughter). “The dancing intensified… The hall swarmed with legs… Arms circled arms, lips met lips, chests met chests, and the atmosphere was full of love.” We’re in the psychodrama of temptation here - the language tumescent with arousal, even as it affects a tone of detachment and disdain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://http//www.guardian.co.uk/saturday_review/story/0,,660284,00.html&quot;&gt;Guardian article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we are to die because of one man’s susceptibility to Frank Loesser’s music, at least he could have had the good taste to declare jihad over the seductive tunes of &lt;em&gt;Guys and Dolls&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then again, my state has the power to inspire &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; cast down numerous fundamentalists — and our University of Northern Colorado drama program sends scores of talented thespians to the Great White Way, each year — maybe it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; like Coors — something’s in the water….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, in blaming the larger left we ignore the threat that almost brought down our country in the ’50s:  The Jack Cummings faction allied with the Arthur Freed Unit of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.</p>
<p>You think I jest??  Observe:</p>
<blockquote><p>Qutb’s sense of extreme moral precariousness comes to the fore in every encounter. Few men past the age of 40 can ever have felt their immortal souls to be in such danger at a church hop as Qutb did when he attended one in Greeley, Colorado. The pastor, doubling as disc jockey, lowered the lights to impart “a romantic, dreamy effect” and put on a record of Baby, It’s Cold Outside (presumably the Esther Williams and Ricardo Montalban version, from the soundtrack of the 1949 hit movie Neptune’s Daughter). “The dancing intensified… The hall swarmed with legs… Arms circled arms, lips met lips, chests met chests, and the atmosphere was full of love.” We’re in the psychodrama of temptation here &#8211; the language tumescent with arousal, even as it affects a tone of detachment and disdain.</p>
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<p><a href="http://http//www.guardian.co.uk/saturday_review/story/0,,660284,00.html">Guardian article</a></p>
<p>If we are to die because of one man’s susceptibility to Frank Loesser’s music, at least he could have had the good taste to declare jihad over the seductive tunes of <em>Guys and Dolls</em>.</p>
<p>Then again, my state has the power to inspire <em>and</em> cast down numerous fundamentalists — and our University of Northern Colorado drama program sends scores of talented thespians to the Great White Way, each year — maybe it <em>is</em> like Coors — something’s in the water….</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-450132</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I went to Dinesh’s site and saw that he was a Rotary high school exchange student who studied for a year in Arizona. He probably came on a J-1 Visa. He overstayed his Visa. He says he stayed on after his exchange and went through the process of applying to college.&lt;br /&gt;
I see the logic that Dinesh caused 911 because he took advantage of a US Visa, broke the immigration laws and therefore the only difference between him and Mohammed Atta is that Atta learned to fly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to Dinesh’s site and saw that he was a Rotary high school exchange student who studied for a year in Arizona. He probably came on a J-1 Visa. He overstayed his Visa. He says he stayed on after his exchange and went through the process of applying to college.<br />
I see the logic that Dinesh caused 911 because he took advantage of a US Visa, broke the immigration laws and therefore the only difference between him and Mohammed Atta is that Atta learned to fly.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-450070</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love the “culture war”, it appears to me that it’s between those who accept or embrace change (or at least roll with it) and those who refuse to evolve from some delusion of comfort where everything stays “perfect” and cannot.  Sure change is not always pretty nor does one assume that change leads to improvement (end-year 2000 anyone?).  What kind of fool does it take to attempt by morality, divinity or misplaced nobility to staunch the tide of time and change?  I guess I answered myself already..  oops!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the “culture war”, it appears to me that it’s between those who accept or embrace change (or at least roll with it) and those who refuse to evolve from some delusion of comfort where everything stays “perfect” and cannot.  Sure change is not always pretty nor does one assume that change leads to improvement (end-year 2000 anyone?).  What kind of fool does it take to attempt by morality, divinity or misplaced nobility to staunch the tide of time and change?  I guess I answered myself already..  oops!</p>
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		<title>By: rebmarks</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-449941</link>
		<dc:creator>rebmarks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess it’s too much to ask that D’Souza recognize that the terrorists chose to bring down the World Trade Center — the spiritual and financial capital of the for-profit world??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it’s too much to ask that D’Souza recognize that the terrorists chose to bring down the World Trade Center — the spiritual and financial capital of the for-profit world??</p>
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		<title>By: rumi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-449916</link>
		<dc:creator>rumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-449902&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bellumregio @ 165&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dinesh D’Souza is just making a living.  Outrage pays the bills for celebrities and for right-wing professional pundits.  He sits at his computer thinking of which line to cross and which sacred cow to attack.  If I were his publicist I would run around the blogs and create as much outrage on the left and cheering on the right as possible.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Talking about the MERITS of Dinesh D’Souza or Ann Coulter or any of the pros is like talking about Madonna’s challenge to Catholicism and what it means.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is just entertainment pretending to be politics.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  The trouble is, with positions such as CNN analyst and with the conservative foundations message machine, people like D’Souza are given credibility. Their claims are accepted without challenge in the MSM and naive viewers take it as gospel.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-449902"><em>bellumregio @ 165</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Dinesh D’Souza is just making a living.  Outrage pays the bills for celebrities and for right-wing professional pundits.  He sits at his computer thinking of which line to cross and which sacred cow to attack.  If I were his publicist I would run around the blogs and create as much outrage on the left and cheering on the right as possible.   </p>
<p>Talking about the MERITS of Dinesh D’Souza or Ann Coulter or any of the pros is like talking about Madonna’s challenge to Catholicism and what it means.  </p>
<p>It is just entertainment pretending to be politics.</p>
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<p>  The trouble is, with positions such as CNN analyst and with the conservative foundations message machine, people like D’Souza are given credibility. Their claims are accepted without challenge in the MSM and naive viewers take it as gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: Janeane The Acerbic Goblin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-449906</link>
		<dc:creator>Janeane The Acerbic Goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-449815&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jane (nyc) @ 145 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Awww…Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC saying the Chimpster was “annoyed” by the Baker-Hamlton report. This is just absurd to the nth degree.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suppose we’re supposed to feel sorry for him, or Andrea’s chastising us for annoying her king…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-449815"><em>Jane (nyc) @ 145 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Awww…Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC saying the Chimpster was “annoyed” by the Baker-Hamlton report. This is just absurd to the nth degree.</p>
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<p>I suppose we’re supposed to feel sorry for him, or Andrea’s chastising us for annoying her king…</p>
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		<title>By: bellumregio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-449902</link>
		<dc:creator>bellumregio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dinesh D’Souza is just making a living.  Outrage pays the bills for celebrities and for right-wing professional pundits.  He sits at his computer thinking of which line to cross and which sacred cow to attack.  If I were his publicist I would run around the blogs and create as much outrage on the left and cheering on the right as possible.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Talking about the MERITS of Dinesh D’Souza or Ann Coulter or any of the pros is like talking about Madonna’s challenge to Catholicism and what it means.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is just entertainment pretending to be politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dinesh D’Souza is just making a living.  Outrage pays the bills for celebrities and for right-wing professional pundits.  He sits at his computer thinking of which line to cross and which sacred cow to attack.  If I were his publicist I would run around the blogs and create as much outrage on the left and cheering on the right as possible.   </p>
<p>Talking about the MERITS of Dinesh D’Souza or Ann Coulter or any of the pros is like talking about Madonna’s challenge to Catholicism and what it means.  </p>
<p>It is just entertainment pretending to be politics.</p>
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		<title>By: mandrake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/10/the-new-phone-book-is-here/#comment-449896</link>
		<dc:creator>mandrake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-449815&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jane (nyc) @ 145&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Awww…Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC saying the Chimpster was “annoyed” by the Baker-Hamlton report. This is just absurd to the nth degree.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heaven’s to murgatroid!  The ISG licked the red off his Iraq sucker.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-449815"><em>Jane (nyc) @ 145</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Awww…Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC saying the Chimpster was “annoyed” by the Baker-Hamlton report. This is just absurd to the nth degree.</p>
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<p>Heaven’s to murgatroid!  The ISG licked the red off his Iraq sucker.</p>
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