
9/11 was my fault. And yours, according to the Right's very own logic-disabled Navin R. Johnson, Dinesh D'Souza. Yes, his book, The Enemy at Home, is finally upon us. Last night, Atrios, who was fortunate enough to receive an advance copy, highlighted the blurb on the book's back cover:
The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11.
You read that right. Nineteen Al-Qaeda terrorists flew planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania because we libertines who shove sexual equality, art, literature, and progressive thought down everyone's throats really pissed them off with our atheistic, cappuccino-foaming, stem cell-chugging, chandelier-swinging behavior. Disregard the fact that Osama bin Laden's raison d'etre has been to eradicate the U.S. presence in the Middle East and to impose his vision of an Islamic society throughout the region. Never mind that, Oslo Accords aside, the West has been completely unable (or unwilling) to resolve the Israeli/Palestinian crisis. Pay no attention to the fact that Dinesh D'Souza would like to remake American society in his own version of wingnut puritanical Utopia circa the fictional 1950's, where women were seen and not heard, couples slept in separate beds, and anti-Communism was all the rage. 9/11 was Hollywood's fault.
Back in October 2006, James Wolcott discovered a copy of the book's galley in his mail (does that qualify as a terrorist act?) and gave us all a glimpse into the fevered mind of D'Souza:
"In this book I make a claim that will seem startling at the outset. The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11."
Then the qualifiers begin multiplying. The term 'cultural left' doesn't refer to the Democratic Party, nor to all liberals. (Peter Beinart presumably gets a pass.) Nor is he saying that cultural lefties actually brought the towers down. He isn't so rash as to suggest Molly Ivins piloted one of the planes, parachuting to safety before impact. So what is he saying?
"I am saying that the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the nonprofit sector [profiteers are always patriots, of course], and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world."
To echo Wolcott's sentiments, it's hard to figure out where to start with this petrified turd of a concept. "Stupid" just isn't eloquent enough. "Retarded" is an offense to those who suffer mental disabilities. How about "fallacious"? How about "wishful thinking?" How about "again with the whiny assed titty baby victimization"? How about "projecting like a fucking movie googleplex"?
Wolcott:
"I realize that this is a strong charge," D'Souza writes, "one that no one has made before."
The reason it hasn't been made before is that it's a sleazy, shameless, ignorant, ahistorical, tendentious, meretricious lie, one that was waiting for the right brazen liar to come along to promote it, and here he is, and his name is Dinesh D'Souza, who's fatuous and fuddy-duddyish enough to think that it's Britney Spears, the rap lyrics of 2 Live Crew, and the buggering photographs of the late Robert Mapplethorpe that have Islam in a tiz.
D'Souza's reasoning is as sound as the lead character's in "The Jerk". A sniper takes pot shots at gas station employee Navin R. Johnson, but ends up hitting a display of cans of engine oil instead. Johnson's conclusion? "He hates these cans! Stay away from the cans!"
Wolcott provides D'Souza's tautological bullshit:
The call-to-arms conclusion of D'Souza's book:
"There is no way to restore the culture without winning the war on terror. Conversely, the only way to win the war on terror is to win the culture war. Thus we arrive at a sobering truth. In order to crush the Islamic radicals abroad, we must defeat the enemy at home."
Look, just because you want it to be otherwise doesn't make it so, Dinesh. So here's my suggestion for you. Clamber over the ramparts of your ivory tower-think tank and take a wander through the shopping malls and closets of the America you believe are longing to break free from the nefarious clutches of the "Cultural Left". Take a peek at who really is downloading the pictures of Britney Spears' exposed nethers. Head east to Washington, D.C. and check out the leather bars, if you dare, and confront your co-workers and elected officials who, by day, decry the destruction of traditional marriage, the radical villainies of homosexuality and the evils of free speech just the way you do. Ask your wife Dixie if she enjoys being able to vote (I know your ex-girlfriend, Ann Coulter, enjoys voting in places where she's not even registered).
I think you might be quite surprised to learn that the oppressed people you're allegedly championing secretly enjoy the excesses of American life brought to you by the Philistines of America, Inc. And I think you do, too, Dinesh.
And absolutely none of this had anything to do with 9/11.
P.S. By the way, dude, I hear there's a great future in weight guessing. You might want to give it some thought.
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watertiger!
twolf1!
twolf!
Beatcha to it, watertiger! ;)
So i see.
Ack, must attend to a brief meeting. brb.
How about “projecting like a fucking movie googleplex”?
Good one!
Can anyone explain what exactly it is that the U.S. taxpayer gets for the money that is sent to Israel every year?
Oklahoma kiddo @
7
it’s called ‘the shaft’
He needs to stick with composing martial music.
Someone needs to dilute that guys Kool-Aid.
I think he’s mainlining the stuff.
The part that kills me is that people buy that shit!
MORE CHEETOS! STAT!
They got nuthin’… never had anything resembling a brain and still don’t. I hope they choke on their own load of codswallop.
watertiger, have I told you lately that you are one seriously talented writer?
old gold @ 9
rofl
Ah yes, the enemy at home. This theme is going to be hammered even harder as the bodies pile up in Bush’s War of Personal Vanity.
Even Senator Kennedy is an enemy, as pointed out by Fox News latest vapid media assassin.
Calling Oswald…..
-GSD
Even Hannity has ramped up his Romanesque “Enemy of the State” attacks too.
This is going to get worse before it gets better. Rest assured the Tim McVeigh and Eric Rudolph types are polishing thier bayonets in anticpation of the fire next time.
The way I read it is that Dinesh and his ilk will continue to enjoy the freedom from restraint brought about by the dirty fucking hippies, while denying them to the great unwashed.
There really could be a revolution brewing.
Damn. This year is going downhill fast! First I was Time’s Person of the Year, but now I’m to blame for 9/11. Geez. What’s next? Gitmo?
Zeno @ 15
could be…
In 1978 I was working at the University of New Hampshire. I was 22. The Govenours Commission on the Status Of Women ,in their official report, concluded that feminism causes wife beating because the husbands get mad at the feminists and then beat up their wives.
Great pix at the top. That could have been a pic of me working my way through college.
angie @ 16
Hah. good one. Amazing what the Scaife’s will pay to publish.
I have a question for these wingnuts…
So you are for free trade and no regulation in conducting business?
Then why are you for restricting business of porn?
Just who morals is it?
Who watches desperate housewife’s and orders the pay for view hotel porn?
Witchywoman @ 12
My band plays more John Philip Sousa than any other band in the world this close to the Arctic Circle, and we resent that comparison and remark…
I recall republican spokes person Rush Limbaugh saying the same thing some time back. I wonder who came up with this idea first.
I thought 9-11 was Tom Clancy’s fault. He’s the one who wrote about screwing up Wall Street and flying an airliner into the Capital during a joint session of Congress. It’s all right there in Debt of Honor.
twolf1 @
8
‘the shaft’
That was also an excellent but misunderstood movie. I still blame cheney for 9/11. Does that mean he’s part of the immoral?
Peterr @ 23
It was the plot for the pilot episode of the X-Files spinoff, The Lone Gunmen about 6 months before it happened.
Oklahoma kiddo @
7
Grief?
unclemike @ 22
Blaming liberals for everything? That’s not an idea, it’s a way of life for these assholes.
Zeno @
15
Why does Time hate America? Making a terrorist POTY.
Al-Qaeda DOESN’T EXIST. Not as we’ve been told anyway. Those 19 highjackers?? They came from Huffman Aviation In Florida, the same airport that is the modern day destination for this decades “Iran/Contra” style drug importing under the tacit approval of Jeb Bush. The 19 highjack are 19 Lee Harvey Oswald’s. Patsies, Dupes, a cover story for public consumption. If 9/11 was caused by Al-Qaeda then the question we need to be asking is who is behind Al-Qaeda?? Peel a few layers off that and you know where the term Al-CIAda comes from. This terrorism thing is a sham. The reason “Al-Queda” is suddeldy in Somalia is because we can casts its shadow anywhere we want at any given time. Somalia is very usefull b/c it nuters Democrtic dissentors. They can just say “Clinton went in there but we can’t?? Where are just finishing the job he wasn’t man enough to do in 1998”. IT’S A SCAM.
http://scotland.indymedia.org/…../index.php
http://www.madcowprod.com/issue32.html
http://www.austin.indymedia.or…../index.php
ruffian @
17
Then you smoked some dope and had a hamburger sub at Karl’s in the quad?
-GSD
P.S. Good ole Guv. Mel Thompson.
angie @ 16
This blaming the Iraq war on liberals reminds of a ‘yoke’ I once read on one of the blogs. It went something like this:
‘You know how to find out if your dog is a Republican? When he craps in the kitchen, and tries to blame it on the cat’.
Dinesh D’Souza’s opinions really shouldn’t be dignified with a response. Those of us refugees from academia who have followed his “career” from when he was an undergraduate at Dartmouth know him for the intellectual fraud he is.
He has only a BA and he’s on a rightist think tank.
I mean, how can one take someone who says things like this seriously?
EvilDrPuma @ 27
Hate is what they do best. The only thing they do, come to think of it. They hate the other and try to oppress and/or kill them (scarecrow’s earlier post), and hate us to defect any blame or responsibility. Sad. Stupid. Predictable.
Biodun @ 32
as in “Please Don’t Feed the Trolls?”
unclemike @ 22
The Athenian priests in their complaints about the return of Alcibiades – 407 BC. I’m sure that even by that time this was an old complaint during times of rapid change.
Did D’Souza ever write a treatise on the effects of slavery on the slave owners?
Didn’t think so.
-GSD
It would be funny . . . except it’s not.
AmericaBlog has THE PLAN
GSD~It was quite an education.
You have a lovely,lovely state~
What planet is he on? Since 9/11, the ‘burbs have seen the greatest crackdown on anything even approaching non-standard behavior. If you step out of line even a little, your neighbors call the cops on you. Kids can’t play with each other unless their parents know each other intimately and have undergone a vetting process. No one takls to one another and if there is any illicit sex going on, I’m not aware of it. You go to work, put in your time, don’t talk to your co-workers because they might want to be friends, go home, eat dinner, take the garbage out, keep your head down and talk to no one. It’s a lockdown. Oh, yeah, gays are defiant in the cities, but here in the ‘burbs, they are not to be seen. We live in a sterilized, uber-Christian environment where everybody is scheduled within a minute of their life. What, exactly, does Al Qaeda object to?
And, why is Dinesh important anyway? He an that helium sucking Ramesh Ponaru should get a room.
Oklahoma kiddo @
7
Sure. They tell us what our foreign policy should be. Damned decent of them- we certainly can’t figure it out on our own.
i suppose this was our fault too: Bombings kill 6, hurt 27 in Philippines
RevDeb @
37
It’s about time someone told us the truth.
What????????????????
Who the fuck is this clown?
It wasn’t the “cultural left” over in Greater Oilistan stationing military assets in the Islamic holy turf of Saudi Arabia. And corollary to that, it was hordes of GOP-sucking Suits (all of whom drive and profit mightily from libertine U.S. products and services) running rampant in the region looking to loot it.
LMFAO!
_
Why do I have the feeling that D’Souza drives a Detroit-built gas-guzzler with magnets all over the back?
Shorter D’Souza: “I blame Clinton.”
smiley @ 40
Following these reports, the new House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told the Jerusalem Post that Democrats wouldn’t rule out using force on Iran to block Tehran’s nuclear aspirations. In the past similar remarks had been made by Democratic leaders Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, along with presidential hopeful John Edwards and Sen. Hillary Clinton. Even superman Barack Obama won’t challenge the Bush administration’s erroneous Iran approach.
http://counterpunch.org/frank01092007.html
All current U.S. military movements are a feint. I’m beginning to believe some of the top Dem leadership is in on it up to their necks.
cnn – chimpy’s eyerak speech will be about 20 mins long. he will tell us that we need to understand why we must win and that we are sending 20k more troops (partially by extending tours by 3-4 months). Most likely will not tell us what defines ‘winning’.
also 1 billion in aid for eyerak. i guess it will come from our giant money stockpile (China), which we don’t really need here in the states.
Here’s d’Souza on feminism:
Awesome! FLD writers on fire today!
woops, FDL – I CAN’T EDIT (why?)
An excerpt from D’Souza’s screed can be found at Amazon:
First, isn’t it just sooooo entertaining that D’Souza would claim that “no one” has made this charge before? Seems to me that Robertson and Falwell pretty much did make this charge a few days after 9/11, and they pulled back a bloody stump. One can only hope that D’Souza gets his butt kicked just as hard.
But second, let’s consider the core argument D’Souza outlines in the first paragraph. The “cultural left” is responsible for 9/11 because its libertine ways create a “visceral rage” in fundamentalist Muslims that moves them toward violence against Americans and American property. Thus, in order to win the war on terror, America must purge itself of cultural liberalism so fundamentalist Muslims won’t be so uncontrollably offended.
Now, Amazon runs an excerpt from the Publisher’s Weekly review of the book that does a pretty fair job evaluating D’Souza’s claims about terrorist motives, so I’ll skip that. Even if we were to accept this ridiculously shallow assertion, though, does D’Souza’s “solution” sound vaguely like a policy of appeasement to anybody?
This is pachyderm defecation. We were not attacked because of our freedoms, lifestyle, standard of living or our bill of rights we were attacked because of our foreign policy.
BREAKING: Bush escalation will cost $6.8 billion.
freakdaddy @ 52
Precisely. And in that, yes, there is room to blame Clinton–but also every other administration, Republican or Democratic, going back at least to post-WWI.
So if US culture were exactly as D’Sousza would like it to be, we’d all be BFFs with bin Laden?
Somebody get that guy a padded room.
Well, if the enemies are here at home…
…how many of us does that make? Everyone who didn’t vote 100% GOP ticket in November?
That’s a lot of Gitmo-izin’.
mandrake @ 50
Obviously it’s the fault of the liberals.
OK, maybe just Microsoft. “Edit this comment” doesn’t work well with Internet Explorer. By any chance, could that be your browser?
If we truly did retrun to the insulated, suburban life that D’Souza desires, the first poeple that will get ran out of the country will have names like Dinesh D’Souza. Just sayin’!
Ed*ard Teller @ 46
I’ve been hoping that the US segment of moderate Jewish influence would challenge The Lobby and it’s power to direct illogical foreign policy.
twolf1 @ 8
It is a downpayment on future investment obligations in Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and many parts of Africa PLUS investment opportunities for the military industrial complex (Halliburtan, Chevron et al). What a deal!!!
EvilDrPuma @ 51
YEP! I knew I’d heard that steaming pile of an argument somewhere before!
That’s right, we should eject our beloved American culture, Big Macs and all, to appease the terrrists. That would really sit well on the Fox News desk, wouldn’t it? And wouldn’t that make all of us who trade in our boots and jeans for Amish women’s clothing something like, I dunno, enemy combatants of a sort?
P J Evans @ 44
Here’s your answer:
Peterr @ 57
Blast Bill Gates!
Biodun @ 61
It helps that D’Souza was born into wealth. Unlike Navin R. Johnson.
mandrake @ 63
ET bows in the direction of his iBook, heads off to physical therapy. It is up to minus fifteen degrees F here. Yipee!!
1,401 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEAZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen watertiger:
My first reaction to the info that D’Souza is publishing this screed is “let’s not give this bullshit any publicity”. However, the argument put forward in this book is an essential piece of the fascist historical view that is bein’ advanced to justify endless wars for corporate empire. This bullshit nightmare is right outta the “they stabbed us in the back when we were winning the last war” advanced by the Nazis in 1932-33.
So, thanx watertiger, for callin’ out “in coming!” on this publication but maybe we could discuss how we deal with the well-orchestrated propaganda pourin outta the corporate media that we could have won Viet Nam if only the liberals hadn’t shut off funding. The millenialist view of the end of times because of the moral corruption of liberal society is another piece of the Nazi world view.
The political ideology of corporate fascism that has prevailed in our country since the election of Ronald Reagan is exactly the same as that used by the Nazis to achieve power in Wiemar Germany in 1932-33. The fact that the grandfather of our sitting president was a convicted war profiteer who benefited from business associations with the Third Reich should give us all pause. Put Prescott Bush into a picture with the America First crowd and we have a snapshot of the last generation of the American oligarchy.
This stuff is not coincidental. What we are facing here is fully matured fascism and anyone who advances the arguments of the fascists or carries water in any way for these bastards must be called what they are: fascists. That includes Mrs. Clinton and that pathetic bald shoe salesman Joe Biden.
There is no middle ground here folks, there are no “independents” or “moderates” to broker compromise, there are no more compromises with the devil….you are either with us or them.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…WE GOTTA DO IT TO THEM BEFORE THEY DO IT TO US!!
The really strange thing is that in the ideal USA of D’Souza’s, a person with the first name of Dinesh wouldn’t be welcome. If he doesn’t believe me, he should travel to SW Virginia, home of the Macaca. Malkin, the same thing. Do these people believe this stuff or is it a way to earn a buck?
GSD @ 13
Oh, perish the thought that the POTUS should consult with Congress on ANYTHING much less matters of war! What was Teddy thinking?? This is akin to treason! To think that Congress would try to exercise it’s Constitutional powers because that might endanger democra . . . uh, waitaminute . . . uhhhh . . .
CNN is speculating that there are US commandos on the ground in Somalia.
Steve @ 67
The two are not mutually exclusive. After all, it is an axiom of the American right wing media hound that any idea he can spew out of his piehole should be turned to profit.
Digby has the latest in the Spamaganda attack on Obama.
Hint: He’s a negro and a Muslim and his atheist mother slept with a Muslim negro.
-GSD
Best book on what Norske is saying in #66 is Wilhelm Reich’s “The Mass Psychology of Fascism,” written before WWII, revised during the 40s. It is Reich’s one great book, most of the rest being fairly strange. MPoF was actually banned in the USA for almost 20 years.
Reich also writes about the complicity of Catholic and Protestant religious organizations, especially youth groups, in the building of the anti-Semitic Fascist state.
watertiger:
Great piece, BTW.
Dolchstasse.
Dinesh has the handle of the blade in his own hand while he points at us and declares, MURDERERS!!!
Too bad we’re the one with the blade in our back.
Ya really got to wonder about a guy who slept with both Ann Coulter AND Laura Ingraham.
Seriously.
watertiger @ 75
I roll to disbelieve.
watertiger @ 75
So you know about that too. He has a reputation for liking blonde white women.
Watertiger, dear, you crack me up every day. Namaste.
Ick, Ann Coulter? Ick.
twolf1:
NBC News reports that President Bush will announce an escalation of 21,500 troops — 17,500 to Baghdad and 4,000 to Anbar province. The cost of the new strategy will be $6.8 billion.
Ach, you can’t believe NBC, the commie-luvin’, DFH-run, Bush-hating source of all of Bill O’Leilly’s woes. Can you?
EvilDrPuma @ 76
The original Hobson’s choice? Yuk.
Ed*ard Teller @ 46..Steny is one of A*PAC’s BFF’s. Does anyone know why?
watertiger @ 75
EEEEEWWWWW!!!!!
PENICILLIN! STAT!!!
This dude has total brain rot. He got cognitive herpes from Ingraham and epistemological syphilis from Coulter.
1,401 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Ed*ard Teller and the Firepup Patriots:
Thanx, brother, old Wilhelm Reich did indeed go a bit off a the deep end a the pool in the 50’s and 60’s but his understanding of the psychology of fascism is probably the best place to start to understand what we are dealing with today.
By the way, doesn’t God play little tricks on us with the irony of history…look at who is drivin’ the genocide of the Palestinians and workin’ slavishly to make the Project for the New American Century into a reality.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, AN ELECTION MEANS NOTHIN’ TO THESES BASTARDS!!!
How about at the same time? Talk about bruises about the body.
Ed*ard Teller (72) — OMG. THANK YOU.
You have NO idea how much I needed that text you cited. Page 33 in particular.
I’ve spent hours crying since I got a miserable piece of propaganda email last night from family members. (Blogged about it, will spare you the details.)
Response from one family member this morning: “Were you foaming at the mouth when you wrote that?”
Mind you, this person has a Hispanic daughter-in-law and grandchild, and a Philippino son, with other children who do not look white.
I am just heartsick. I’m going to have to snow them under with this stuff, cannot live with the idea that I let them walk with this immoral attitude towards non-white immigrants who have the misfortune of needing employment badly enough to come here illegally.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 83
[Channels Bill O’Reilly]
Shut up! Just shut up!
a classic: I Fu#@ed Ann Coulter in the A#s, Hard
OK pups, this is what the AEI has on their site:
There is a way to do this.We must change our focus from training Iraqi soldiers to securing the Iraqi population and containing the rising violence. Securing the population has never been the primary mission of the U.S. military effort in Iraq, and now it must become the first priority.
We must send more American combat forces into Iraq and especially into Baghdad to support this operation. A surge of seven Army brigades and Marine regiments to support clear-and-hold operations starting in the spring of 2007 is necessary, possible, and will be sufficient.
These forces, partnered with Iraqi units, will clear critical Sunni and mixed Sunni-Shi’a neighborhoods, primarily on the west side of the city.
After the neighborhoods have been cleared, U.S. soldiers and Marines, again partnered with Iraqis, will remain behind to maintain security.
As security is established, reconstruction aid will help to reestablish normal life and, working through Iraqi officials, will strengthen Iraqi local government.
So our troops are going to “remain behind”. Behind what? In the Nam you were in the bush or in the rear. In Iraq they call the “rear” Forward Observation Bases. From what I can gather there are very few troops who sleep outside the FOB (in the bus). So they are now going to have the grunts set up in the neighborhoods and hang on? Then what? Sounds like a perfect set up to me.
watertiger @ 75
please…please don’t say ‘at the same time.’
either one would be bad enough on their own.
twolf1 @ 86
Stop it! Stop it! My soul is bleeding.
EvilDrPuma @ 51
D’Souza is probably right. It’s all those Playboys our troops leave around in all the countries we invade that is causing all that rage.
raven @ 88
Sorry, the last part is my comment.
Thanx, brother, old Wilhelm Reich did indeed go a bit off a the deep end a the pool in the 50’s and 60’s but his understanding of the psychology of fascism is probably the best place to start to understand what we are dealing with today.
Orgone, but not forgotten?
BobbyG @
82
It is soooo good to see you ’round the Lake.
Rayne @ 84
Good rant over at your blog, Rayne. Maybe you could send your family members some White Roses for Valentine’s Day.
EvilDrPuma @ 90
Slap a Band-Aid on it and get back to the front with the rest of us.
:-)
OT – Oil falls below $54. Strangely, prices at the pump remain high.
Ah, a McMansion and a foreign gas-guzzler. I guess they use 5500 square feet to hold their egos, since they surely don’t have that big a library. [/snark]
twolf1 @ 96
What’s so strange about that?
RGB -
Thanks. Been out sick the past couple of days, and generally covered up the past month.
O/T – while layin’ up at home, I watched 10 of the 12 episodes of Season 3 of “The Wire.” OMG! Now I gotta buy all of the sets. What a stunning compendium of great work.
_
P J Evans @ 97
It’s the seven and a half baths that puzzle me. Do these people know what that little silver handle is for?
EvilDrPuma @ 99
They have an Hispanic maid who flushes for them.
Media Misleading Americans By Using ‘Surge’ To Describe Bush Policy
quotebegone!
Bush: It’s all the fault of the Iraqi’s.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16558652/
Steve @ 104
It’s anybody’s fault but his.
Woke up this morning and my first thought was “It’s time for another round of phone calls and letters.”
Sen Pryor (check) Sen Lincoln (check) and Republican Rep Boozeman (check)
*sigh*
eek—boxed quotes everywhere!
Max Baucus (I believe he’s one a very few senators who have children in Iraq) was just on the Senate floor repudiating his vote for war in Iraq and calling for phased withdrawal to begin within 6 months… made the speech in middle of an ethics amendment vote on SR1
I think it’s my fault!
Bustednuckles @
106
On a more serious note, D’Souza’s attack on the left is about as surprising as Ann Coulter doing the same. Still I see it as less gratuitous and more another example of rightwing misdirection. If you remember back to the Clinton Administration, Republicans essentially hamstrung Clinton’s foreign policy and an aggressive pursuit of al Qaeda terrorists. They were much more interested in being Monica obsessed and in charging Clinton with Wag the Dog if, in fact, he tried to do anything on the international scene. Of course, after 911 they turned around and blamed it all on him and wondered why he hadn’t done more (and instead had left it to their moron to manufacture a mandate out of).
sorry for off topic:
I wanna email a House staffer:
(I remember we were info collecting for votes on mebbe net neutrality…?)
say ‘jane smith’ in my man richard neal’s office.
I remembe we found the ‘algorithm’ was something like:
‘j.smith@house.neal.gov’
or some permutation. Anyone have that specific formula?
test
Oh yay! Refresh everybody. Should be ok from here on.
Has Hillary bothered to make a statement yet, or is she still waiting to see which way the wind is blowing?
egregious @ 112
OK – from Monty Python and the Holy Grail:
What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is the airspeed velocity of a laden swallow?
CNN – when Iraqis asked what they think about Chimp speech tonight, they say “we really don’t care.” Their lives are more consumed with staying alive right now.
They are asking the US congress to intervene to stop the escalation.
Have put out a call to attack american soldiers as they arrive in iraq
Actually his ex-girlfriend was Laura Ingraham.
They were engaged to be married.
But then her parents got a good look at him, discovered he was blacker than I am, and the wedding was off.
Are you ready for the Real Plan from the perspective of Dinesh/neocon thinking?
The anti-war ant-terrafighting populace will be or is responsible for the chaos in Iraq. Band them all together to attack as one in a multiple front war aginst dissent. Slowly acclimate the dissent to greater outrage without realizing that they are furthering the plan with more dissent. Stage battle groups and increase troop presence as a way to agitate and then justify retaliation from the accused insurgent supporters of Iraq and dissenters in general. Airstrikes in a remote, little cared for country will support the GWOT that’s dwindled and reaffirm the military use of violence against civilian targets. As this tactic gains more public acceptance, the other fronts are ramping up the psyops of increased insurgent support which would be a natural response to increased troops in Iraq.
As the troops are built up in Iraq, the justification for strikes against Iran are hammered away in the media and are now also justification as a response to protect the increased troop presence from escalating violence. If all else fails, a false flag nuke operation could be used against Iraqi civilians to verify the involvement and threat that Iran poses, justly calling for the airstrikes. As this new enemy develops realistically, the need for a common enemy should bond some disparate factions in Iraq to fight the new common enemy – Iran/Syria. Once a considerable strike is taken against Iran, the response will be the significant source of inertia to keep this dynamic interaction of escalating violence in motion.
The neocon philosophy of regime change through destabilization has been a plan for decades in the making. This is the big dance for them. The opportunity will never present itself again.
I guess we also took down WTC 7.
ccmask @ 117
Nah, that was the work of illegal immigrants.
watertiger @ 120
…and then they cleaned up the debris.
This is a bit off topic (obviously this Dinesh guy is a nutball – was the question of Ann Coulter’s adams apple ever resolved?) but I had an email from MoveOn this morning and they’re helping to organize Stop The Escalation rallies tomorrow night. It looks like there are hundreds across the country, surely one near YOU.
Time to Walk The Walk. I think if we really want to embolden the anti-war members of congress and send an unmistakable message to the WH that we don’t support the war, we need to put some bodies on the streets.
OT – U.S denies reports of new Somalia air strikes
Hope against hope. Dare I suppose, even remotely, that a ’super majority’ is possible?
For GOP Senators, Bush’s Next Step in Iraq Means a Delicate Dance
By Dana Milbank
Wednesday, January 10, 2007; A02
Senate Republicans, dreading President Bush’s prime-time address tonight calling for more U.S. troops in Iraq, emerged from their weekly party luncheon yesterday displaying more dance steps than the Joffrey Ballet.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..81_pf.html
twolf1 @ 123
And Israel isn’t going to slam Iran. ;)
Please take a few moments to write your congress-critters in opposition to the Iraq troop build-up. Tell them you oppose it and that it’s ok with you if they cut off funding for the continued occupation of what used to be Iraq. I know it’s a cliche, but if we lead, our politicians sometimes follow. This is a crucial moment in our nation’s history and their fingers are all in the air feeling for the direction of the breeze. Now is the time to speak up and make certain your voice is heard. Thanks, and sorry for hijacking yet another thread.
P J Evans @ 114
Hope it’s a tornado. Dead on.
Wow. Just called Neal’s (local) office. Wasn’t transferred to DC. He (I’m assuming an intern) was much more repsonsive than the last time. I ranted about stopping the war. (Neal’s good on this issue already. No on AUMF and no last July?)
Anyway, I said I wanted to congratulate on ajority status, and advocate for Min. wage, health care etc. buth couldn’t.
And went on about the war and stopping it. (And saying he should be more vocal, get behind Murtha – oh, and impeach before he destroy the country. And Cheney. And Gonzo, for good measure.) Neal is on Budget and Ways/Means.
STOP THE FUNDING sez I.
He went a bit ‘realistic’ on me…but sorta moved to ‘UR preaching to the choir’ – said he’d pass it on.
FWIW
When you incite a mob, they don’t care if you are some Grand Poobah of the Reich Wing. “Lookie here boys, we gots us one of those sand-n@#$%rs! Get the rope! What kinda Eye-racky name is that!” Sounds like our boy Dinesh is suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome. But then again, the Reich Wing has mastered getting people to vote against their own self-interests.
It’s obvious some damn liberal caused the ‘boxed quotes’. Those thing are a bit tedious.
OT.. but back to my 104..I just re-read the the MSNBC blurb..
“Seeking support for a retooled strategy to win support for the unpopular war, the president will acknowledge that the rules of engagement were flawed because certain neighborhoods in Baghdad were put off limits by the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, White House counselor Dan Bartlett said. “Military operations sometimes were handcuffed by political interference by the Iraqi leadership,” he said.”
“Certain neighborhoods put off limits” holy shit they are talking about Sadr City. If Bush is going after the Shia in Sadr City it will be a blood bath. Re-read Gilliard.
Before we jump all over Mr D’Souza, I think we need to objectively view his latest comments in the context of his whole body of work.. after all, it would not be fair to take him out of context. To that effect, I’ve pulled the following quotes from that great body of work:–
“If America as a nation owes blacks as a group reparations for slavery, what do blacks as a group owe America for the abolition of slavery?”
“[f]or many whites the criminal and irresponsible black underclass represents a revival of barbarism in the midst of Western civilization.”
“The American slave was treated like property, which is to say, pretty well.”
OK.. jump away…
OK kiddo 2 127
I was hoping for a cat-5 through her offices myself.
(And, somewhat OT, there’s a story in today’s LA Times about preparing for the Next Big One, which may or may not be overdue. The section shown in the graphic is the shoe I’ve been expecting to drop for some years. Look at the damage estimate!)
Funny, I do not see block quotes.
“The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11″
if the cultural left is the enemy of Islamic fundamentalists to the point of having incited/inspired them to 9/11, then the corollary must be true: that the cultural right is in harmony with the Islamic fundamentalists. n’cest pas?
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pluege @ 133
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP! KILL THE MIC!
PSA – Buy any sundae, get one FREE!
:)
btw, for those Californians here, I believe Dinesh is a resident of San Diego’s North County. Here’s a good piece about him by the San Diego Reader’s Tom Larson:
http://www.sdreader.com/php/co…..d=20050414
“… dreading President Bush’s prime-time address tonight calling for more U.S. troops in Iraq…”
why do people keep saying bush will “call for” more troops to Iraq? He will tell us that he is ORDERING more troops to Iraq. It is up to the dem Congress whether or not they say/do anything about that order.
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pluege @ 139
They have already been ordered and are getting ready.
This is from D’Souza’s website. Among other things, he also has delusions of grandeur. (I don’t mean to keep at him, but proves my point.):
Did you see Patsy Buchanan last night?
He’s over the edge…
Pat, the Vietnam War is over!
I’ll never forgive him…. he said Teddy
is stupid….
Teddy HAS balls…
Jack
Mr. D’Souza’s books have had a major influence on public opinion and public policy.
Policy wonks sit around the table at lunch time and read it to one another for laughs.
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Awww…Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC saying the Chimpster was “annoyed” by the Baker-Hamlton report. This is just absurd to the nth degree.
“”I realize that this is a strong charge, [that the cultural left caused 9/11]” D’Souza writes, “one that no one has made before.”"
Not true. Pat Robertson made the same claim.
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Here’s more from D’Souza’s website, and then I’ll shut up:
Oh by the way, rethug after rethug this morning on the House floor cited Will’s economically nonsensical argument against the minimum wage increase in their speeches in opposition to the legislation. It was really embarrassing. There are economically credible reasons why a rethug might be opposed to the minimum wage hike, but Will cited none of them… just spewed ideological bs. How is it that talking heads like Dinesh and Will, who are experts at nothing other than oratory, have come to exert such an influence over otherwise intelligent rethug legislators? I don’t get it. This is pretty much the demagogic kakistocracy (rule-of-the-worst) that Jefferson warned against in his critique of Hamilton’s urban centrism.
Peterr — thank you for that.
I’m going to put a reminder in my calendar to do just that: a dozen white roses.
And Valentine’s Day cards with white roses on them, signed, With love, your devoted bad conscience.
OT
A little something for Ed*ard Teller
Sen. Ted Stevens’ (R-AK) Son Gets Fined
The Alaska Public Offices Commission recommended that outgoing state Senate President Ben Stevens be fined $10,170 — the maximum penalty — for “failing for three years to disclose the names and payments of six clients of one of his consulting firms.” But with a federal bribery investigation bearing down on him, that’s the least of his problems. (Anchorage Daily News)
SNIP
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/
OT..But I’m sure that Dinesh would approve.
WASHINGTON // The thousands of troops that President Bush is expected to order to Iraq will join the fight largely without the protection of the latest armored vehicles that withstand bomb blasts far better than the Humvees in wide use, military officers said.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nati…..-headlines
Shorter D’Souza: I pooped my pants, again.
Bustednuckles @ 134
I stopped them at 113. Need to hard refresh folks. Still in boxes from 88 – 112. Mod?
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My argument for the minimum wage increase:
If you pay them a living wage, they won’t need to have two or three (or four!) jobs per household to make ends meet, so there will be more job openings, and hiring will increase. They’ll also have more money to spend, so they’ll buy more stuff, so there will be more job openings, and employment will increase.
Net result: economic growth. Why can’t the GOoPers do the arithmetic?
Steve @
67
From wiki:
I believe Mr. D’Souza feels that the way to survive is to be a really *good* house servant.
new thread
Swo(o)p on upstairs for the latest fAri tale.
Biodun @ 147
What rudder balderdash!
egregious @ 153
As of 11:12 pst I’ve still got the boxes. Maybe they’re left over from Christmas presents.
And I hard refreshed 2x.
[Mod Note; which browser are you using?]
IE6. Probable source of all evil.
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Let’s see.
The religious right hates gays, diversity, the decadent the declining social mores of the Western world, etc.
Al Qaeda hates hates gays, diversity, the decadent the declining social mores of the Western world, etc.
It’s quite obvious that the religious right is more aligned with “the enemy” than the left, n’est ce pas?
“The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11.” – Dinesh D’Souza
Right, Dinesh, and your wife’s
hotnessflirtingmere status as a live female is responsible for her being raped.Bustednuckles @ 10
ROFLMAO!
Back to lurking again.
Jane (nyc) @ 145
Heaven’s to murgatroid! The ISG licked the red off his Iraq sucker.
Dinesh D’Souza is just making a living. Outrage pays the bills for celebrities and for right-wing professional pundits. He sits at his computer thinking of which line to cross and which sacred cow to attack. If I were his publicist I would run around the blogs and create as much outrage on the left and cheering on the right as possible.
Talking about the MERITS of Dinesh D’Souza or Ann Coulter or any of the pros is like talking about Madonna’s challenge to Catholicism and what it means.
It is just entertainment pretending to be politics.
Jane (nyc) @ 145
I suppose we’re supposed to feel sorry for him, or Andrea’s chastising us for annoying her king…
bellumregio @ 165
The trouble is, with positions such as CNN analyst and with the conservative foundations message machine, people like D’Souza are given credibility. Their claims are accepted without challenge in the MSM and naive viewers take it as gospel.
I guess it’s too much to ask that D’Souza recognize that the terrorists chose to bring down the World Trade Center — the spiritual and financial capital of the for-profit world??
I love the “culture war”, it appears to me that it’s between those who accept or embrace change (or at least roll with it) and those who refuse to evolve from some delusion of comfort where everything stays “perfect” and cannot. Sure change is not always pretty nor does one assume that change leads to improvement (end-year 2000 anyone?). What kind of fool does it take to attempt by morality, divinity or misplaced nobility to staunch the tide of time and change? I guess I answered myself already.. oops!
I went to Dinesh’s site and saw that he was a Rotary high school exchange student who studied for a year in Arizona. He probably came on a J-1 Visa. He overstayed his Visa. He says he stayed on after his exchange and went through the process of applying to college.
I see the logic that Dinesh caused 911 because he took advantage of a US Visa, broke the immigration laws and therefore the only difference between him and Mohammed Atta is that Atta learned to fly.
Of course, in blaming the larger left we ignore the threat that almost brought down our country in the ’50s: The Jack Cummings faction allied with the Arthur Freed Unit of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.
You think I jest?? Observe:
Guardian article
If we are to die because of one man’s susceptibility to Frank Loesser’s music, at least he could have had the good taste to declare jihad over the seductive tunes of Guys and Dolls.
Then again, my state has the power to inspire and cast down numerous fundamentalists — and our University of Northern Colorado drama program sends scores of talented thespians to the Great White Way, each year — maybe it is like Coors — something’s in the water….
Rayne at 74 said dolchstoss.
Dolchstoss is a right-wing-myth/talking-point-strategy the right has employed over and over again, with increasing effectiveness. D’Souza’s book is merely the latest example.
Harper’s wrote about this right wing myth, “Stabbed in the Back!” last year. It’s a great take-down of the dolchstoss strategy the right falls back on time and time again.
Tim Wayne @ 172
Highly recommend Tim Wayne’s (172) comment. Follow the link he provided to the Harper’s article.
I read it last summer and especially recommend it for people under 60 (seriously)who may not be terribly familiar with recent history. It will all be oddly familiar.