Lord McCain gave a weird interview on MSNBC today, where he engaged in a little revisionist history regarding the re-election of his Surge Sister, Joe Lieberman:
Joe Lieberman would never have been re-elected — a strong proponent of the war — against an opponent who was for pullout, if that was the American people's attitude.
As Eric Kleefield notes, the Connecticut exit polls beg to disagree:
They show that sending more troops had the support of — get this — 15% of voters! Meanwhile, 63% of voters said some or even all troops should be withdrawn, in complete opposition to Lieberman's real position.
Second, given the total number of people who cast their vote for Lieberman, it's nothing short of absurd to say that it's in any way indicative of anything national. According to the final results, a total of 563,725 people voted for Lieberman — in other words, just over half a million in a nation of 300 million people.
Finally, Lieberman won because he was able to misrepresent his views on Iraq, not because voters agreed with his actual views on the subject. Back in July, Lieberman actually said he thought we'd be able to draw down "significant" numbers of troops by now. What's more, Lieberman worked hard to blur the line between himself and Ned Lamont on the Iraq issue. In one ad, for instance, he spoke of wanting to "bring our troops home from Iraq."
The numbers — and Lieberman's own statements during the campaign — prove that McCain's debunked claim is at best false, and at worst dishonest.
But then McCain goes completely bughouse (watch it at ThinkProgress):
RUSSERT: Go back, Senator, to 2002. The administration saying we would be greeting as liberators. John McCain saying you thought success would be fairly easy.
MCCAIN: It was.
RUSSERT: In all honesty…
MCCAIN: It was easy, it was easy. I said the military operation would be easy. It was easy. We were greeted as liberators.
What color is the sky in John McCain's world?
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Gag. Fitz.
Rootz!
I would say the sky is yellow in John’s world to match his sister’s belly.
Having Fitz? One week to go folks.
The sky in his world is brown, the color of shit. Which he is full of.
Whatup Balrog?
Twisted Martini @ 6
Not much LMS. Back from vacation. Sorry I returned after catching up on US news…
Thanks for asking!
So is anyone going to subject themselves to Delusions Al Fredo tonight?
Twisted Martini @ 8
OH HELL NO!
Where’d ya go? Someplace warm I hope.
McCain also complimented Tom Ricks on Fiasco at the AEI presser, when Ricks asked him a question. So he seems to be of two minds….
Twisted Martini @ 5
St.McCain and the shit talking express
Solution to the Iraq tragedy:
Headlines:
Bush Kills Self . Leaders gather to discuss peaceful means to end the violence.
W killed himself shortly after speaking to the American people. W said he was sorry and fell on his sword. Coke was found in his pocket. A note found inside the tiny bottle asked Laura and Condi and Harriet to clean up after him. Oh yeah, he said to tell his mother that her plan did not work and to stop being mean to his dad.
Then all the leaders in the middle east and Israel got together and drew straws as to who would be the spokesperson and then Osama (got the longest straw) said that he would stop his guys from killing long enough to find a peaceful solution to the death and destruction. We did have to send each leader 1 billion dollars and a mercedes to seal the deal. The twins also got a mercedes each, one pink, one gold. Lynn Cheney wanted a red pickup.
Peace has a chance once again. for now.
Not to mention that McCain also has been looking really, really tired and not that healthy for the past 6 months. I don’t think I would want him to walk my grandmother across the street, much less be president.
Twisted Martini @
10
Palau dude. 8th wonder of the world, so long as you go underwater.
—
When you enter the ocean, you enter the food chain. Not necessarily at the top. – Jacques Cousteau
“MCCAIN: It was easy, it was easy. I said the military operation would be easy. It was easy. We were greeted as liberators.“
Oh, right. That was the military operation.
So, St. John, what exactly have our armed forces been doing in Iraq for the past 3 1/2 years, if not military operations? How have all those American servicemembers been killed or wounded in Iraq, if not in military operations?
What is Bush’s “new” plan for American involvement in Iraq, if not a plan for military operations?
It was not easy. It is not easy. It will not be easy.
Twisted Martini @ 8
I might watch.What is the cue to start ‘Dark side of the Moon’?
DMM @ 16
During the opening credits of ‘The Wizard of Oz’, IIRC.
Twisted Martini @ 8
I am. My gut tells me this is going to be Bush badness of classic and historical proportions. The dialogue from now forward is going to be about the absurdity of the Bush speech of 01/10/07. I wouldn’t want to miss it.
Lies. That’s all they have left. F*cking lies, told at great speed and volume, to a media well trained to repeat the lies because of the celebrity of the liar. Bah!
Someone mentioned Hillary in the last thread.
Could she be any more silent than she is during this surge?
No wonder Bill sought out screamers…
1 vote for PLAID.
I just cannot figure out what makes McCain behave the way he does on Iraq. Either he wants to lose the nomination or the presidency, or he’s gone bonkers. I am at a loss on this man.
What color is bat-shit? that would be it.
Congrats to those w/ the stomach to watch the Bushbag Farce. I’ll have to look in for comments…
One of the tools Rove used against McCain in the 2000 primaries was to plant info about psych profiles on McCain after his release from the NVA POW compound. I thought they were cheap shots at the time, but I’m beginning to think there was a lot of info there. McCain is quite unstable. Pass the word. Oh, yeah, he looks like shit, no matter what color his imaginary sky is.
The info is probably in the same place as W’s flight physical orders, his suspended imposition of sentence for coke possession and a whole lot of other stuff though, now.
Tonight’s menu…Delusions Al Fredo with a side of hubris, washed down with a double suck-it on the rocks.
Ed*ard Teller @ 25
He’s got to do something about his makeup!
“What color is the sky in John McCain’s world?”
Perhaps a better question is: How full is the moon in John McCain’s sky?
The man is a lunatic.
Thanks to the Pythons, some things I’d prefer to watching ChuckleFuck tonight.
Luxury
Dusty59 @ 27
Does he chew tobacco? Why is the left side of his mouth puffy? Is that left over from his melanoma? Or is that his makeup stash….?
The dude from Baghdad on PBS said al-Maiki doesn’t want a surge, the presidents boys said he asked for it.
I think it was a broken jaw from his jet augering in.
Ed*ard Teller @ 30
Balrog @ 7
Welcome back, missed ya.
raven @ 32
so he must have hit his head. very, very hard.
from downstairs jane, important on any “surge” post
the president has already disregarded congress, has already acted
palosi has to do something severe about this unabashed revolt against the American people who employ the man, congress, and our constittuion
I will say this. It wouldn’t bother me if the Republicans nominated McCain. Actually, I rather like the idea.
urban pirate @
33
Why thanks, Pirate, but wasn’t that you firing cannons at me while I was diving?
Aye
Oklahoma kiddo @ 36
nor would they mind the idea if we nominated clinton
both easy targets…they think clinton is a cinch to beat, that’s why they keep calling her our best candidate and “formidable”, because they want us to field her as our 08 hope
perris @ 35
This is just SOP for that bunch. Remember the $700 million they “borrowed” from Afghanistan war appropriations to pay for Iraq war planning? (And, yeah, there’s another one for Waxman’s committee to look into.)
Actually, McC’s comments make complete sense to McC, I’m sure. This is why so few long-sitting senators get elected to the presidency.. they’re adapted to a culture where the clever nuances in the parsing of words can construct or deconstruct reality. Yes, at the precise moment our tanks entered Baghdad, we were greeted enthusiastically (probably because Saddam had conditioned his people,under threat of death, to cheer at whoever marches down the street with big guns). ’tis illogical logic is why Kerry lost … and why McC will lose too.
Twisted Martini @
8
I am. I’m inexplicably drawn to train wrecks.
I googled it and there is no mention of a jaw injury in the shoot down or captivity. There is talk of tumors in the past.
so he must have hit his head. very, very hard.
perris @ 39
You have that right. ;)
When McCain sold his soul to the Bush family, he went from military hero to Bush toady. It’s a tragic fall, but he made the choice.
Has any word been heard from Lieberman today?
neurophius @ 46
Won’t they first have to get him to stop jerking off before they can send him out for interviews?
neurophius @ 46
yesterday, http://www.courant.com/news/po…..s-politics
Based on this, its probably better to just tune him out altogether.
Twisted Martini @
8
I have to sit here on the board at the radio station and listen to every word.
Like Balrog said: Gag.
In Surgeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band the skies were marmelade.
And like Lord Mccain, this was after they drank the Kool-Aid.
Badwater @ 45
and man did he sell his soul, he sold his manhood, he sold his self respect, he sold out his military integrity, he sold out his child and he sold out his wife
I lost complete regard for anyone who would embrace a man that did what bush did to the mccain family and legacy
pity too, if he were the man I thought he was before he embraced bush I would not have minded him as our president or vice president
The only sense I can make out of McCain is that he believes that his ticket for the republican nomination rests not so much on doing what is right, but what he thinks will garner the most internal party support (WH), without which I suspect he fears his chances would be scuttled.
BushCo is probably usurping some of McCain’s positive public regard for their own self serving purposes (see Colin Powell at the UN), with a significant liklihood he will be played as a patsy come ‘08 when things are the same or worse than they are now.
How McCain has responded to Bush/Rove going back to his deplorable treatment by them during the SC primary suggests he’s got some serious hang-ups identifying with aggressors. Whether that relates to his traumatic POW past, I don’t know, but damn!
.
Charlie Rangel (sp?) in process of taking Tucker out to the woodshed *g*. Commercial……..not sure what remainder will be but the first part was beeeeeautiful.
neurophius @ 46
Perhaps he hasn’t been told to talk by those who control him. ;)
From Blub’s link @ 3:51 p.m.:
“Lieberman hopes to discuss his views further today at a new bipartisan issues group that he and Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., have formed. It is unclear how many Democrats may attend.” (emphasis added)
LOL.
Shouldn’t it be a “tripartisan issues group” since Lieberman is in it?
Or does “bipartisan” acknowledge that it will only be Republicans plus one CFL?
Wondering if there’s going to be a “Countdown” tonight?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
Well.. they did have him write that letter to Bush yesterday formally ASKING for the escalation that Bush is going to offer us today. This is so very sad. Does he actually have constituents?
neurophius @ 55
Lieberman, the object of my unsubsiding contempt, is a tripe artisan.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 23
I think it’s that he jumped on the Bush/Rove express when it was at its highest popularity, thinking he’d brownnose the guy that all the Republicans loved, and ride it to the nomination. Unfortunately for him, he had the bad luck or bad judgment to hop on board that plane just before it began its plunge. Since it’s too late to really separate himself, he’s reduced to chronic up-is-downism and Bush-style attempts to alter what people believe by altering what the media say they believe. Sad.
Blub @ 48
Gotta give the Courant props for the identifier, though:
punaise @ 58
neurphious has it right, liebermans thinks he can get away with calling republicans and himself a “bipartisent” effort
as if
Rangel is going to introduce a bill tomorrow to reinstate the draft.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 56
I think I heard that there is.
neurophius @ 55
How can you have a circle jerk with only 2 guys?
When someone breach’s their own moral code they turn into what McCain has become. A creepy cretin.
off to early bed 2 night
have good fun firedogs
Blub @ 57
You could almost feel sorry for CT dems that voted this guy back in.
On second thought,scratch that.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 56
I think Keith said last night that there wouldn’t be. Special coverage of The Big Important Speech instead.
I guess we’d have to wait until tomorrow night for a Special Comment about it anyway. *g*
Face it,McCain drank the Kool-Aid. It melted his balls and his spine.He has his finger in the wind and not a hope in hell.
If he gets the reptilian nod to run, he’s going to get clobbered.
His betrothement to Shortride is going to bite him in the ass here in the not too distant future.
We are getting down to the short strokes on this fucking they call Iraq.
“Lieberman, I-Conn., who also spoke Monday at a Capitol news conference, said he likes what he’s hearing from the administration.”
That quote would have worked for any day in the past six years.
McCain and Powell. Two major toads.
DMM @ 67
tag check
Twisted Martini @ 64
Would that then be a linear jerk?
George W. Bush is under attack! The Defeato-homo-Commie-surrender-coward-o-crats are rating The Great Decider poorly in an AOL poll. Please support this great man or else the nation will suffer a perilous fate at the hands of God.
Onward Christian soldiers!
-GSD
Two linear jerks.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 74
Brings an all new meaning to the expression’cocktail weenie’
Yuk
have never seen the john act so like he has spun one too many tire on the road of life. your positraction no longer functions mr. mcPain. your gears are slipped, your clutch is gone, and your tranny is about to blow.
this is outright questionable mental health boys and girls. wonder what the people of arizona think about him now?
GSD @ 75
/voted
Mary McCurnin @ 76
;)
McCain’s behavior is getting more and more strange. I really think he has a progressive dementia.
perris (39) — after talking with a few friends today to air out the problem email I got last night, I think they are TERRIFIED of Obama.
They’d rather have HRC as the Dem candidate because of her high negatives.
They took note of the overwhelming majority of African-Americans voting for Dems; they may think it will be higher for an African-American candidate with Obama’s current popularity and lower negatives.
They don’t have one stellar candidate in the lot, all their candidates having baggage; might be hard to overcome a popular Dem candidate if Dems remain organized and cohesive.
We need to hope for a conservative third-party candidate to emerge, to split the vote. I’d go so far as to say we should encourage and invest in one since it might buy us a larger spread at the polls.
AOL poll (GSD’s link):
What should we do with the troop level in Iraq?
Decrease it 70%
Increase it 23%
Maintain as is 7%
Total Votes: 42,291
Will Bush’s strategy make things better or worse in Iraq?
Worse 64%
Better 20%
No change 16%
Total Votes: 42,626
How confident are you in the Iraqi government?
Not at all 72%
Somewhat 25%
Very 3%
Total Votes: 40,290
How would you rate Bush’s handling of the war?
Poor 77%
Good 9%
Fair 7%
Excellent 6%
Total Votes: 41,115
Steve @ 81
No, he has conservative dementia.
DMM @67
Mary McCurnin @ 76
Jerk Chicken contains Nutmeg, just sayin’
The picture of McCain hugging Bush on the campaign trail had all of the outward appearances of a hostage in full-on Stockholm Syndrome thrall.
McCain is so corrupt he makes Tom Delay look saintly.
-GSD
i’m obviously out of step… ‘cuz i feel like i’m the one grasping at straws. the public is against escalating the war/occupation, the generals seem to be against it, even some republican congresscritters are coming out against it. we just had an election fer crying-out-loud where we rejected bush’s war.
so what’s happening? the escalation has already started, and we’re going to get told about it tonight.
i was so hopeful after senator kennedy’s excellent speech yesterday…. but now not so much, ‘cuz it looks like it’s going to talk a lot more to get our country back. digby’s right:
read the whole thing… it’s one of digby’s bests (and we all know that’s saying alot).
GSD @
75
Thanx, GSD! I love voting.
Hey Rayne, you doing better tonight?
GSD @
75
AOL polls aren’t very liberal usually. But on this one 72% lack confidence in the Iraqi government and 78% lack confidence in Bush. Maybe if he converted to Islam his polls would go up.
There seems to be a definite syndrome that’s overtaken some of these pundits/politicians. Buchanon, McCain….they seem to have had a switch flipped over to extreme.
McCain can wave bye-bye to any chance at gaining the Presidency.
Rayne,
Did you get that odious “Obama the black Muslim” spamaganda?
Looks like the Fear of a Black Planet is hitting home to some of these wankers.
-GSD
The latest, bestest slogan evah;
“New Way Forward in Iraq”
And if you can stomach it, some excerpts from the Chimpinators latest, greatest speech, evah;
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0110.html
Ed*ard Teller @ 90
[laughing] Oh, that’s funny… would Saxby Chambliss put his picture next to bin Laden’s in 2008?
raven @ 31
Yes, but when he woke up with the horse head in his bed he changed his mind.
neurophius @ 70
He was bought and sold by the administration and fellow neocons in the last election. He’s doing everything we predicted he would do in support of the administration’s disasterous policies in Iraq (his pre-election lies not withstanding).
At least he no longer has a “D” associated with his name.
Regarding McCain’s lies about what Lieberman’s re-election meant, I am hoping that there will be Dems speaking out to say that McCain’s interpretation is based on fantasy, not fact and that election day polling statistics show just the opposite. (I can dream, can’t I?)
It’s like we are waiting for our alcoholic President to hit bottom and finally face reality, and he just keep going down. Like that Dodge Nitro commercial. 2 Chinese guys are going to be eating their lunch when Fredo will pop up out of the sidewalk, dust himself off and say something really stupid.
Talk about grasping at straws…
Brian Williams at msnbc.com
whatever.
Ok – who just messed up Tweety’s prompter???
Buchanan is melting down too…..He is becoming incoherent.
Lieberdink just needs a firm “you’re getting hysterical” slap.
McCain needs to be deprogrammed by professional anti-cultists.
-GSD
Redshift @ 68
Thanks!
RagingGurrl @ 101
What did I miss?I was looking down when it happened.
punaise @ 100
Yup, that’s his motto. “Whatever I think goes….”
The New Way Forward with Retsin! Coming to a Wal-Mart near you.
-GSD
Does it make your breath smell like pretzels and Wild Turkey?
They keep bringing up the fact that Leiberman was re-elected to justify things. He was re-elected by Republicans. Guess nobody remembers this anymore. Even Rove bashed people over the heads saying that since Leiberman was re-elected, it showed people wanted bi-partisonship. NO. The Republicans didn’t vote for their candidate in Connecticut and chose to stick it to Democrats by voting for him. Anybody but me remember this?
DMM @ 104
He stopped reading his lead into commercial mid sentence and said, “get that, get that out of there” or something like that as he waved his hand.
In the life is strange category: phone call to a friend after several months, hi how are you:
(1) she has cancer, most likely will be ok, but that ‘mostly’ word….kids still at home….
(2) a close relative just got elected to Congress in a tight race.
Thus leaving me about as close as you will ever come to speechless.
Lieberman advocated withdrawal and expressly rejected troop increases in his “ten point plan” for Iraq.
While Sen. McCain was calling for more troops in Iraq last August, Sen. Lieberman was proclaiming support for troop withdrawals and arguing that his differences with fellow democrats were limited to whether a timetable for withdrawals was advisable (“Lieberman Backs Troop Withdrawal but Not Timetable of Other Democrats” reported the New York Times). Furthermore, Sen. Lieberman’s official statement of Iraq policy during the campaign (the “ten point plan” unveiled last September 25) unequivocally rejected any increase in troops levels, stating that the Senator’s strategies would be implemented “by redeploying existing troops, not adding new troops to the region.”
Here is Point Six of Sen. Lieberman’s “ten point plan” for Iraq, which he unveiled last Sept. 25 and referenced repeatedly throughout the campaign, including in his Oct. 23rd debate in CT:
“Sixth, we need to adapt to the new challenges of this new kind of war, by increasing the number of U.S. soldiers embedded in Iraqi units. This will allow more Americans to come home because embedded troops need less outside support. This should be done by redeploying existing troops, not adding new troops to the region.”
Weathervane McCain is fucking high.
Weathervain! I like that!
WASHINGTON – Increasing the U.S. military presence in Iraq will break the cycle of violence and “hasten the day our troops begin coming home,” President Bush said in remarks prepared for a speech Wednesday night calling for 21,500 more troops.
Twisted Martini @ 113
It don’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
Can’t take credit for it.
Someone at Eschaton (can’t remember who at this very moment in time) came up with it.
AZrider @ 108
Yes.
A couple of nights ago, there were a lot of comments on one post about CT dems who elected Lieberman and some push back about it from those of us who worked really hard for Lamont and were uncomfortable with the entire state being blamed for all his nonsense.
The MSNBC exit polls had it thusly: 33% of Dems, 70% of Repubs, 54% of unaffiliated. 66% of voters disapproved of the war in Iraq and 40% of the disapprovers still voted for Lieberman. I talked to a lot of them while phone-banking for Lamont … they didn’t like his position on Iraq but they otherwise liked him. And they weren’t convinced that Lamont had enough experience to be a senator.
Let’s be honest here … Joe LIED to CT voters and there was no way to have predicted he’d be in a pivotal position.
Rather than be angry at Connecticut (though I kind of understand it), why aren’t more people who object to Joe’s crap angry at the Democratic Party which did not wholeheartedly support Ned Lamont?
The party did not prevent Joe from being on the ballot, they stalled Lamont coming out of the primary saying they were working on it, they didn’t try very hard to publicly support Lamont, they let GOP money flood into the state without making sure voters knew who was trying to convince them, and the town party committees and Diane Farrell in the critical 4th CD all but ignored Lamont.
I’m happy there’s a Dem majority in congress but it would be a lot more secure if the party had worked harder to have a real Democrat elected from Connecticut.
And btw, if all McCain can say about why we should escalate instead of get out of Iraq based on public opinion is that CT elected Lieberman, then that’s just pathetic.
watertiger @ 116
hey, tigre’, thanks for your great guest post here earlier today!
LIEberman…can’t say there wasn’t truth in advertising.
-GSD
TeddySanFran @ 119
Mon plaisir, TSF!
SusanM @ 118
I blame Clinton.
Hey, this time it works!!
Balrog @ 115
cock-a-frickin-doodle-doo, McCain
Please sign John Edwards’ No Funding for Escalation petition.
SusanM @ 118
Don’t know why not. I am.
egregious @ 110
damn,…moderation just never seems to find you, does it?
hope you’re doing ok and congrats on the election
SusanM @ 118
I have a feeling, at some point in his six more years, that the inside-the-beltway types in the Democratic Party will be regretting their decision not to go after Lieberman. When you look up “quisling” in the dictionary, it says, “see ‘Lieberman, Joe’.”
TeddySanFran @
119
I’ll second that!
RBG @ 128
Aw, you guys…
;-)
My 16-year old nephew has an interest in making movies. I bought him these cute little “B Movie Victims” to play around with- and look what he did-
Run for your Lives! Bush has Escaped!
I find myself strangely fascinated by this. Does that make me a bad person?
The NewsHour is useful for its Washington CW. It is very frustrating for the same reason. Brooks gets to opine that the Democrats have no position on Iraq without any response from the somnolent Shields. Iraq is Bush’s war and he can’t be the unquestioned and unquestionable Commander in Chief and then go running to the Democrats for cover. Nor does anyone mention the Kerry and Levin Amendments from the last Senate which called for staged withdrawal. The ever affable Shields yawns through his “the President has a small window here” to convince us. I’m assuming he read the outline of the President’s plan today like the rest of us but it’s almost like he pretends he hasn’t. There is no window, Shields. More of the same recycled and rewrapped is not going to risk convincing anyone, outside the stuporous Washington punditocracy. No one thinks to mention that only 12% of Americans favor increasing troop levels in Iraq or that the BIG new speech is coming from a President with a 30% approval rating (23% on Iraq). Kabuki, kabuki, kabuki.
Balrog @ 115
“You’re so vane, you probably think this post is about you.” (Sorry, Carly)
OK @114..That’s crazy. I’m getting the feeling that the Republicans who have been meeting with Bush over the past few days are starting the think the same thing. The 80 troops sent to Baghdad was a temper tantrum and a fuck you to the Dems by Bush. I think there will be 60 votes in the Senate for conviction in less than six months.
TeddySanFran @ 124
It looks like he’ll be on CNN right after the unDecider’s tirade.
Steve @ 133
Your lips, FSM’s ears…assuming the Flying Spaghetti Monster has ears.
Steve, I think they need 67 for removal.
OT, great story on what STILL isn’t happening in New Orleans.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 113
Well, it does fit in with the whole Orwellian War is Peace shtik.
punaise @
100
WHATEVER.
For the record 118 is not me.
As a matter of fact, a great many of the commenters on this thread are not me :)
Saw Webb on C-Span. YAY! And Tester sitting in the chair with the gavel. Baby steps, we are getting there.
Lord McCain…. my @#$%%$#@ Senator should know just how “easy” Iraq was, Lori Piestewa was the first woman killed in Iraq with Jessica Lynch abduction. Ya then you have Alyssa Peterson, a Flagstaff soldier who committed suicide because she could not stand the abuse of prisoners.
Then there is the revered Pat Tillman who was killed by friendly fire and BushCo and the Pentagon continues to lie to the family.
McCain sat out Vietnam in a prison camp, what does he know about war strategy? What did he know first hand about what occurred in Vietnam for the 6 years he was a POW?
Counting the minutes waiting for RGJoe to undercut Chris Dodd’s announcement Thursday.
I have to make myself NOT bring up New Orleans everyday in all aspects of my life. I am so worried about my family there and it does seem that people have forgotten. Were are the Dems on this??????? OT, again.
Speakout @ 130
I think your nephew has exactly captured America’s mood at 9:24pm eastern time tonight!
watertiger @ 135
Educational link for the curious . . .
rumi @ 126
Moderation never seems to find me—that’s the story for somebody with bipolar, OCD, -and- ADHD. Colorful til we burn out in a flame of glory.
The election is in my friend’s family. It was quite the one-two punch for not having heard from her in a few months.
Re the election in general, except for Lamont I am ecstatic. The SENATE. The United States SENATE. We WON. Ok and the House too. Webb…Tester…Good things can happen.
Tweety actually seems remorseful this evening.
blergh.
So what is McCain going to say after Bush’s speech tonight?
A) The president did the right thing by sending in more troops(in which case McCain goes down if Bush’s “plan” goes down)
or
B) The president isn’t sending enough troops (which translates into saying Bush is wrong and his “plan” isn’t going to work. Does he dare do that?)
@ 136 I remembered that as I was going for a Coke. If Bush pushes the military to take down Sadr, the blood bath might take it to 67.
Kendrick Meek laying it down on Iraq escalation on the House Floor, now on CSPAN.
We were greeted as liberators, by a large number of people with no guns or power,
who have either been killed or lost family members in the unprecidented violence which ensued on our watch.
By 2004, only 1/3 thought they were better off than under Saddam,
and we have lost most of them in the following two years.
The substantive difference between this point in time and the strategic changes being debated are
A: There actually is debate.
B: Real alternatives are being considered.
Oh, and
C: Things are orders of magnitude worse than the past simple disasterous errors of judgment.
Now the same people who “greeted us as liberators” wish we would just go away.
Mary McCurnin @ 142
I’m gonna try to give you an actual answer. People that live there are southerners. And or poor people. Many of whom are black. I’m not saying these are GOOD justifications, just how people think. Certainly that doesn’t describe the situation for me. But for many people that’s the reason for not doing too much.
There are a lot of church groups going down for work projects including my own. Wish I could go but its a time when I’m overseas.
The insurance companies are covering their financial behinds by denying everything on up to the sky being blue.
The federal government…thereby followed a long string of unegregious-like curses.
Everybody else just does not know what to do. They don’t know how bad things are—definitely there needs to be more press and blogging on the unmet needs. But average citizens other than the church work groups just do not know how to deal with the problem.
I assume Salvation Army is still operating there?
What about the Red Cross, are they still there helping with all their 9/11 cash?
Kentucky Woman @ 146
Watch the Ted Kennedy press club speech via the Cspan video and near the end before the Q&A, they show a shot of Tweety listening. It is hard to describe the look but was VERY telling.
Once again, McCain proves he is batshit crazy. He’ll make a great repuke candidate for prez.
oregondave @ 124
I am too.And many of these Dems will be the ones that waffle on what’s going on now.
A good example of Sirota’s ‘money party-people party’
oregondave @ 144
FSM has no need for ears: FSM knows all before it is spoken!
Supposedly the Maliki government will take on the Sunnis, the US the Shiites.
Operation Fallujah Redux on meth.
-GSD
Is there going to be any live blogging of the speech? I really can’t watch it.
katymine @ 152
Thanks for the H/T katymine.
I just don’t get why the Dems didn’t include it in the first 100 hours. It was the right thing to do.
katymine @
140
I almost barfed when the usually intelligent Craig Crawford said on Tweety’s today that “John McCain is the only candidate for President with any national security experience.” Being in a tiger cage, while tortuous and horrible beyond imagining, does not qualify one in the arena of national security. Considering what it may do to one’s long-term mental health, POW experience is more a detriment than a qualifier for the Presidency. But CW is CW, straight talk is straight talk.
Katy, what about a flailing guess on Tweety’s mood?
-GSD
rumi @ 134
I haven’t decided who I will support for President in 2008, but I am not going to forget that John Edwards took this stand at this point in history.
McCain’s sky?
Steve @ 157
Don’t look at me buddy. My liver couldn’t take it. Am working pretty hard not to treat stress with alcohol. It’s a close thing. Need to back away from Iraq, Iran, and the Bush administration til I am stronger.
I am trusting you guys to pick up the reins, even the liveblogging. twolf around?
Go for it neuro.
Mary at 159, I added a note about the Salvation Army and the Red Cross in NOLA. Or I shd say, asked if they are still operating there.
I may take a stab at it. If I’m not too busy retching.
cnn panel comprised of roberts, crowley and schneider to blitzer and zahn on bush:
“In other words, he’s delusional.”
katymine @ 152
A number of “them” have shown glimmers of rational thought process… it just never seems to stick. We can keep hoping!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..38321.html
Excerpts from Bush’s speech at Huffpo for those that can’t wait / stomach the live delivery.
Steve @ 157
I hope so just in case the long anticipated breakdown occurs. I want to be near the remote at all times.
DMM @ 154
Ah, yes. Very good, that, and very much in line with Pach’s three (or was it four?) party delineation, IMHO.
Debbie Wasserman Schulz . . . these guys are so good . . . it’s so pleasing to hear some of these Congress folks speak the unvarnished truth. It needs to be heard before the SOTU. Especially considering the network crap-pap commentary to follow.
Tweety and Keith will be jointly doing the after-speech coverage. It will be interesting to see how they interact. They did so just now and it seemed like they were both trying to get along.
neurophius @ 166
You are one brave dude. A grateful nation salutes you.
Countdown is on
neurophius @ 173
It was pretty tense election night between the two of them, which was a shame because they could really be good together. Different strengths.
egregious @ 174
Awww.
This statement is at best redundant, and at worst redundant.
One of the senators from my state (note I do not say “one of my senators”), Sam Brownback, apparently has come out in opposition to escalation. Who would have known?
Just finished a phone survey about Minnesota Senate races — plus a few questions about Bush, Pawlenty and republicans. Ummm, let me think “rate Bush from 1-100″ -0
Asked to choose between Al Franken, Tim Walz, and Susan Gaertner against Norm Coleman. I picked Tim walz but made it clear ANYONE would get my vote against Coleman. They gave many “would the following comment change your opinion of Franken”. Was this a push poll, although it was extensive and lasted 5 minutes. Could not figure out who might have been paying for the poll.
neurophius @ 179
[thunk…sound of egregious fainting]
So Brownback gets it, and Clinton doesn’t. Interesting.
KO suggesting there is really nothing new in what Bush will say tonight.
neurophius @ 179
Sounds as if he’s reacting to polls. He wants to be president, too….
KO is such a pro, during the Ford funeral he was very restrained when covering Rummy and Kissinger. He understands when he is reporting and when he is doing commentary. Goofball has no off switch.
egregious @ 176
egregious @ 181
Ironic, isn’t it?
I will take a wild guess and say this may be a gamble by Brownback to get some traction against McCain.
Sparkles the Iguana @ 14
SNORT!!! (sorry, I am late to this thread)
neurophius @ 185
Which makes me wonder, what are Rudee, Mitt, et al. saying right now?
GrandmaJ @ 180
Sounds very snakey.
The Connecticut for Lieberman party will be having their first meeting Thursday, Jan. 18th at 6:00.
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh…..aryId=5295
Also posted at CT Bob’s -
http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2007…..erman.html
Murtha on Countdown tomorrow
Did anyone else hear Tweety say ramified instead of ratified tonite? I think he is truly flabbergasted!
punaise @ 163
Burden!
KO sez Durbin (D-Ill) doing post-Chimp mopup.
neurophius @ 190
I like Murtha! ;)
What color is the sky in John McCain’s world?
It’s a very light red, if he is wearing Bush’s rose colored glasses.
Burdon
mandrake @ 192
Pelosi on Countdown quoted “We will listen to the speech and then we will vote on it.”
If so, they better vote tonight or first thing in the morning. imo
Walls move, minds do too. . .on a warm San Francisco night.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 197
I predict the return of the Trembling Chihuahuas.
I can’t believe I defended McCain to a Republican who said he was insane back in 2004.
I notice people are mentioning Hillary.
GrandmaJ @ 180
hi GrandmaJ — this would be a great DKos diary; you might find others who’d been polled or even find out who polled you. I love poll-archeology and always wonder who’s polling.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 201
That’s more than Hillary is doing.
Balrog @ 199
Eureka Springs, AR @ 197
Wow she looked upset, but quite glam. (Can we still say glam?)
TeddySanFran @ 193
I thought there wasn’t going to be a Dem response (?)
Wondering how long this speech tonight will last.
I guess w must be dropping his meds right about now.
raven @ 196
woops! thx!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 201
Earlier today (I believe at the 4 or 5 o’clock hour on msnbc) everybody was asking “where is Hillary on the escalation and why are we not hearing from her”?
Brits planning to pull out about 3,000 troops by end of May.
Maybe the can convene a session tonite, without telling the Repugs. You know, the same shit Delay used to pull.
The mere mention of Hillary, I’ve noticed, can throw my switch.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 204
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Hi TeddySF – Haven’t done a diary for .. well, forever. Come to think of it, I only did one diary and at the time there were only 30,000 users. :)
I am still recovering from having figured out how to register for YearlyKos — after 6 emails from the guy who runs the registration site, and 6 (yes 6) passwords. And then having to figure out paypal.
mandrake @ 209
raven @ 196
Burdon
mandrake @ 192
punaise @ 163
McCain’s sky?
He blesses the boys as they stand in line
The smell of gun grease and the bayonets they shine
He’s there to help them all that he can
To make them feel wanted he’s a good holy man
Sky pilot…..sky pilot
How high can you fly
You’ll never, never, never reach the sky
He smiles at the young soldiers
Tells them its all right
He knows of their fear in the forthcoming fight
Soon there’ll be blood and many will die
Mothers and fathers back home they will cry
Sky pilot…..sky pilot
How high can you fly
You’ll never, never, never reach the sky
He mumbles a prayer and it ends with a smile
The order is given
They move down the line
But he’s still behind and he’ll meditate
But it won’t stop the bleeding or ease the hate
As the young men move out into the battle zone
He feels good, with God you’re never alone
He feels tired and he lays on his bed
Hopes the men will find courage in the words that he said
Sky pilot…..sky Pilot
How high can you fly…
Burden!
woops! thx!
zig maintenance. watch it guys.
We Gotta Get Out of This Place
I bet Poppy is really bawlin’ now. Chimp decided to listen to the neocons after all instead of Poppy’s friends.
angie @ 210
I heard Matthews ask that on Hardball earlier. It will be of interest, perhaps, how she votes on this so-called surge.
TeddySanFran @ 205
On behalf of beautiful women everywhere, yes.
And beautiful shoes.
Feel Like I’m Fixin To Die Live
raven @
222
Excellent!
Urgh. Just read some of the speech excerpts off HuffPo. I dunno. The only reason I want to watch is to see who claps and how much.
Malkin apologizes??!! Did I hear that right????
This “view from Iraq” on Olbermann, and the people they talked to in Iraq; were they Shiites or Sunnis? I wonder.
mandrake @ 225
She’s skeert.
I have never watched a single speech by the Prince. I don’t think I will tonight either. I will be watching Olbermann after, though.
Ooooo So Bush needs an immediate seven billion for the surge, say Turley on Olbermann.
Perhaps that is the vote Speaker Pelosi (I love saying that) was referring to.
I’m trying to find “I’m Mad” but can’t:
You know I’m mad like Al Capone (I’m burnin’ up)
I said I’m mad (I’m burnin’ up)
Like Sonny Liston yeah (I’m burnin’ up)
You know baby I’m mad (I’m burnin’ up)
Like Cassius Clay (I’m burnin’ up)
You know I’m mad (I’m burnin’ up) you know I’m mad
Yeah baby, alright baby (I’m burnin’ up)
I’m mad, come on (I’m burnin’ up)
RBG @ 223
Yep. KO says Malkkkin apologizes for getting the Kerry pic wrong. Keith said “now if she would only apologize as many times as she said that nobody wanted to sit next to Kerry. I hope she makes worst person in the world tonite.
NBC News just captioned Frederick Kagan, commenting on the President’s Iraq War Plan, as “Military Historian” without mentioning his AEI authorship of, um, the President’s Iraq War Plan.
Hell must have frozen over. I just heard KO say that Michele Malkin apoligized for the Kerry picture. He said now if she would repeat her apology as many times as she repeated her mistake…
KO gettin off
Mr. Olbermann on a roll, calling boosh out on alla his lies wrt the Iraq war.
Go!
Bush’s speech is not from the Oval Office tonight because he has photos of his kids there. If they were removed, it would be noticed. They really do not want anyone to wonder why those military age kids are not surging in their father’s war. Like their father before them, they party on while others serve and die in the failed war of a PResident from Texas.
TeddySanFran @ 143
Kind of like “Fellini meets the Neocons” or something.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 228
The way to do it is to put the teevee on mute with sub-titles and then live blog it with the “family.” We’ve had some fun in the past doing this. Since I cannot stomach the sound of Chimpy’s voice, this is the only way I can stand to do it.
Way better than the drinking games that others have dreamed up.
neurophius @ 162
I have disliked politics my entire life. It has always seemed to be an exercise in fuility and disappointment. Edwards is not the perfect candidate as none exists but he is the first one I’ve ever known to spark a genuine feeling of hope. That might change but I’ll push for him and what he stands for as long as he keeps me believing. I think it will also give me a chance to make a difference in the world. His campaign has and will have some ambitious projects for community building.
Kool-Aid shooters for every mention of the word terror?
mandrake @ 200
If it helps, I don’t think McCain was that insane in 04….not nearly as stupid-crazy as he seems of late.
Anyone else just really REALLY depressed tonight?
Eureka Springs, AR @ 239
Substitute the word spurt for surge every time he uses it and a shot at each use of the word victory
Is Cheney in town or still hunting Osama, I mean caged birds.
Here’s a pic of Cheney’s future hunting targets.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9…..353329151/
digby’s funny…:
Twisted Martini (89) — better, but it took me more than 12 hours to get over the crying jag. so disgusted. The response I got this morning from one person did NOT make things better.
Thanks for asking; I guess I just have to double-down.
GSD (93) — nope, haven’t gotten the Obama smear yet, but I’m sure that’s next. Or maybe my reply scared them so much they won’t copy me on the next piece of Republican racial smear.
Just a matter of time before we all get this stuff, just like the SwiftBoat Vets. I lay odds it’s the same morans doing it, too. What ever they send out will boil down to: OOoooHHhh!! Be vewy afwaid!! Bwown people!!
Richmond, wrong question! The question is, “Is anyone else not just really, really depressed tonight?”
Not anymore than usual, what did you think was going to happen. Do you think something like an election would change this shit?
Richmond @ 241
RBG @ 217
…if it’s the last thing we ever do
I’m with RevDeb — the mere sound of W’s voice drives me right over the edge. I certainly hope some of you will be live-blogging this because I plan on watching the premiere of The Sopranos on A&E. (I refuse to pay for HBO or wherever it was first, so I’ve never seen it.) I’m relying on you to let me know how he screws up!
Surge? I thought it was splurge.
Paul Reickhoff on KO now.
drive-by: BREAKING NEWS: ‘LEADING EDGE’ OF TROOP SURGE HAS ARRIVED IN BAGHDAD, ABC NEWS HAS LEARNED
Why bother with the speech? I guess it’s to tell us that it is already underway.
Before this “surge” becomes a reality, I was wondering, don’t we still have some soldiers that were kidnapped and not yet found, not even bodies?
ex-soldier (served in Iraq, I think) on KO saying “this is not going to work”
I could do it that way, if he would wear a bag over his head.
neurophius @ 248
perfect!.
Thanks RBG. I needed that.
I bet W’ll mention 9/11 in the first 3 minutes. (I haven’t peeked at the speech — blergh!)
Troop Surge Already Under Way
KO will get another note of thanks from this pup tonight.
jeffreyw @ 256
snort. As close as I have come today to a smile.:-(
RevDeb @ 238
Perhaps we’ll give it a whirl. ;)
neurophius @ 254
Paul Reikoff. Started OpTruth.org which then morphed into Iraqi And Afghanistan Veterans of America. A group of vets who are trying to spread the truth about how bad and stupid Bush’s folly is. Good man.
My husband says he wants to look at Bush directly and without hesitation so he will have yet another reason to go to the peace rally tomorrow at the capitol in Sac.
Glenn Beck worse person in the world
Lord McCain worser “it was easy we were greeted as liberators”
Gretchen Carlson Fox News Channel worst person in the world
Keith kicks Gretchen Carlson’s butt. Thanks, Keith. That was sooo necessary.
rumi @ 238
In the 2004 primaries I was not feeling Edwards that much (I was for Clark) but Edwards is firing on all cylinders right now. Every time he opens his mouth it’s like he’s speaking to me, and saying exactly what I want to hear.
twolf1 @ 252
Turley made the new (to me) point that it’ll be harder to deny the $ if troops are in-country. He also said Congress had the constitutional authority, but might need “intestinal fortitude.”
Rethug rep after rep on the House floor giving speeches (I guess, special order speeches) now about our resolve for “victory” in Iraq.. one of them.. I think it was Duncan Hunter, had a giant 60 x 60 inch prop of a mad looking A-RAB (possibly al-Sadr.. I couldn’t make it out) behind him. All of them commending Lieberman (is he secretly caucusing with them already)?) and bashing the iraq study group for studying the wrong problem (they mistakenly thought that their mission was to find a way out, not to find a way for us to win)…. I find watching rethugs serially froth at the mouth somewhat therapeutic
Paul Reichkoff- Founder of Operation Truth (now Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America)
http://www.optruth.org/index.php
Rayne @ 245
Hang in there. It may take time but the good souls will outnumber and overtake the idiots eventually.
:)
I bet he mentions air strikes in Somalia before 911. I found out today Somalia has recently found oil. No wonder Bush trespassed.
Like Tricky Dicks Cambodia speech.
Why bother with the speech? I guess it’s to tell us that it is already underway.
Turley made the new (to me) point that it’ll be harder to deny the $ if troops are in-country. He also said Congress had the constitutional authority, but might need “intestinal fortitude.”
Eureka Springs, AR @ 259
don’t forget to cc KO’s boss, dan abrams, at: dabrams@msnbc.com
Badwater @ 236
…er, from Connecticut, likes to pretend he is a rough ‘n tough cowboy from Texas
Hope Jane’s got another thread at the ready for the 9:00 show. This one’s getting long.
what to name it ?????
Groundhog Day?
Well, “the American people need to understand” will surely be said- that’s my bet anyway.
TeddySanFran @ 267
Well, the Congress just gave a bunch of money for the war in the last appropriations bill, and if that allotment is as open-ended as the previous ones, then they can use that money, until it’s gone. The vote that matters is on the new supplemental. If Congress says, “no money for increased troops in-country,” then they won’t legally be able to spend money on those additional troops.
Bush is basically playing a game of chicken with Congress–daring them to de-fund his latest plan….
KO and Tweety now
Thank goodness MSNBC nuked Tweety & let Keith handle the lead-up solo!
If CFuck’s decision has already been made, and troops are already enroute, I see no reason why the Trembling Chihuahuas shouldn’t vote against it post-mortem.
Oh sorry, it was the racist, Tancredo, with the prop. He’s now frothing about Europe being destroyed by multiculturalism (the enemy within), so that the “French will never get to be French again” and basically saying that to win in Iraq, we need to get rid of brown people in America… judeo-christian values.. attack iran.. immigration bad… blah blah blah
Valley Girl @ 270
Chasing Ghosts
Because then it’s even easier to say they are not SUPPORTING THE TROOPS
Balrog @ 281
Tancredo:– “I hope the president tell us tonight that he has put the crosshairs on Iran”
Blub @ 281
Is it too much to ask that the `pugs run Tancredo in 2008? He’s wackier than Bush and McCain put together….
TeddySanFran @ 273
Thanks for the reminder, will do.
They are talking about what a big deal it is for W to say “mistakes were made and the responsibility rests with me.”
So what if he says it? Exactly what responsibility is he taking? What acts of contrition would be significant enough to count?
Bah humbug.
Tweety “Hillary Clinton is still aboard, Joe Liebershitz is still aboard.”
“Trembling Chihuahuas” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH More true than I would like it to be certainly
First thing I have smiled at today. Thanks Balrog.
raven @ 284
How much easier does it need to be? It’s all we’ve heard for 2 years.
GrandmaJ @ 290
Of course you remember that it was Patrick Reusse’s term for the Denny Green led ViQueens.
I don’t agree with it, I’m just sayin. . .
How much easier does it need to be? It’s all we’ve heard for 2 years.
You know, it occurred to me while listening to Paul Riechkoff that all of our exhausted troops would surely not be so exhausted and demoralized if they were fighting for their country– good grief, neither would I and I would fight to defend my family and my country if attacked (and I am a peace- loving person who has never shot a gun in my life!)
This is what is so unconscionable– that this selected fool and commander in chief is allowed to use this army anyway he wants to. Like Edward Kennedy said 2 days ago, a few months from now is TOO LATE for us to speak out!
It is past time for the people to rise up in spite of Congress and the Executive.
Hillary may be quite bright. I don’t know. But on Iraq I really question her political acumen.
KO: “What on earth could be a win for the president tonight?”
Tweety: It’s not his last stand, but it is his second to last stand…I do believe we’ll see his numbers go down…
Sanitas @ 266
yup, you said it well. Part of what got me hooked on Edwards early was the change in maturity (from 04) he showed on Hardball in NC with Matthews. Elizabeth is a tremendous person and he seems to appreciate his good fortune in having her.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 295
Her political acumen is spelled AIPEC!
raven @ 293
Yeah, sorry for the inflection. I knew what you were saying. :)
Tweety says this isn’t Bush’s last stand, he’ll ask for one more FU, after one more FU.
jumpin in 150 comments just to say I wasn’t gonna listen. BUT I wanna count how many times the word ’sacrifice’ is used. Ahd how it is used.
I think BBC online radio is streaming (World Service)
BUT,I still don’t wanna……
KO beginning “the official coverage” of the preznit’s speech
Tweety: Bush’s people feel trapped, as in a box canyon….history tells them a few more soldiers in a losing campaign won’t turn it around
Hill has been quite cozy with the Bush group and individuals like Newtie for quite sometime.
new thread.
NP, we’re all a little edgy.
Yeah, sorry for the inflection. I knew what you were saying. :)
neurophius @ 295
Did Custer have a dress rehearsal for his disaster? :)
We Have Escalation is upstairs.
Balrog – And Denny Green deserved the term. IMO ok. IMHO. My mother and I used to watch the Vikings all the time. She with Alzheimers, and me unable to walk at the time. That is where I learned my mother swore.
Bush stutters in his opening
war on terra blah blah
the elections [in Iraq] in 2005 were a stunning achievement
Well, isn’t he buddy buddy with Hunter (his comrade in Abramoff), who is running? They kept on yielding to each each other.. it was pretty funny.. at least Hunter seemed capable of sustaining a logically cohesive argument. Tancredo couldn’t figure out whether he was giving a speech on Iraq or one calling for the destruction of, variously, Iraq, Syria, multiculturalism, liberals, immigrants or just minorities.
montag @ 286
Violence in Iraq particularly Bagdahd undid the gains we had made
the insurgents’ strategy worked…death squads..viscious death squads…
our troops have acted bravely…
mistakes have been made, responsibility rests with me
shrub’s on now.. doesn’t he look nervous?
We have talked to a lot of people…
failure in Iraq would be a disaster for US…
al Qaeda would gain new strength…
use oil money to fund their ambitions…
Nooklear weapons in the hands of terrorists…
America must succeed in Iraq…
fourminutes: September 11th
Stutered or stammered three times in first two minutes. Deer-in-the-headlights look. He is not inspiring any confidence for even his base.
hmm…BBC ain’t carrying it that I can see. They do have a ‘what do you think about Bush’s escalaion? Y/N?’ blog thingie. I haven’t looked, but it started Mon, I think.
Now, to read what y’all have….
Splitting Baghdad into
sectarian enclaves…
previous efforts to secure baghdad have failed…
military leaders say this new plan can work…
Iraqi gov’t will employee Iraqi police brigades…
18 Iraqi brigades committed to this effort…
jeffreyw @ 282
Thank you Paul Reichkoff for your service there, then and for your dedication and work here, now.
neurophius @ 311
Pulling out would be a DISASTER for the US.
Now, he’s getting too technical here. Confusing the 20% here.
Believe me, [bad word inserted] Bush, the responsibility IS. ALL. YOURS.
America will change our strategy to help the Iraqis to secure Baghdad…
these troops will work alongside Iraqi units…
help Iraqis clear and secure neighborhoods…
help ensure the Iraqi brigades left behind will succeed…
20% going: NUKE ‘EM, NUKE ‘EM! WHY DONCHOO JEST NUKE ‘EM, GOD?!
“I’ve committed…” it’s a done deal, pre-empting Congress.
When we secured areas and moved on, the bad guys returned…
this time, Iraqi and American forces will have a green light to enter those neighborhoods…
Maliki assures that sectarian violence will not be tolerated…
now is the time to act….
Maliki says the Iraqi forces will not tolerate any bullshit from sectarian militias…
Growing trust and cooperation from Iraqi residents…
Gov’t will have the breathing space it needs…
reducing violence in Baghdad will help make political cooperation in Iraq possible?
Amurka will hold Iraqis to our benchmarks…
give every Iraqi a stake in nation’s economy, share oil revenues…
Iraq will spend 10 billion on reconstruction
provincial elections later this year
Amurka will change our approach
increase embedding in Iraqi units
help the Iraqis build a larger…
accelerate training of Iraqis…
funds for economic assistance…
double the number of reconstruction teams..
speed the transition to …?
Al Qada has made Anbar the most violent place outside Baghdad…
Al Qaeda’s goal of defeating democracy…
local tribal leaders willing to take on al quaeda…
Even if he wasn’t lying it would be a totally stupid idea.
increase amurkin forces in Anbar province by 4000 troops…
stabilizing the region…
Iran & Syria are allowing terrorists in and out of Iraq…
seek out and destroy terrorist networks…
I ordered additional carrier strike group to the region…
will work to prevent Iran from gaining nuukleer weapons…
will look to other Arab states in the regiion…
strategic threat to their survival..
they must step up support for Iraq
Heavy, languished breathing. This is a horrible speech by any public speaking standards. It’s wonky and monotonous. I hear no conviction or passion in his voice about the plan itself – only a scarcely revealed plea to save his own Presidency from going down in infamy.
Rice is going to the region on Friday
it is more than a military conflict
a decisive ideological battle of our times
their intention to destroy our way of life
provide a hopeful alternative to their message
He’s wooden and weirdly robotic. No passion? No one’s home!
Raise up just and equitable societies across the Middle East
They want to know, will Murika cut and run, or stay to ensure freedom?
democracy fighting for its life
let me be clear, the terrists and insurgents in Iraq are without conscience
Well… democracy IS fighting for its life.. right here in America.
We must expect more Murkin and Iraqi casualties
no declaration of victory on a battleship
a democratic Iraq will not be perfect
will help bring peace and security
I consulted with Congresss
many think the Iraqis are becoming too dependent on US
their solution is to scale back Murikan efforts in Baghdad
we carefully considered their proposals and we think they are full of shit
would make us have to stay in Iraq even longer
help the I’s break the cycle of violence
hasten the day our troops can cut and run
it is fair to hold our views up to scrutiny
acting on the good advice of Joementum and others in Congress
new bipartisan group (RIGHT!)
increase size of army and Marine corps
mobilize talented Murkins (Blackwater? Halliburton?) to deploy overseas
young americans understand our cause is noble and necessary
they serve far from their families
empty chairs at dinner table
watched their comrades give their lives
we owe it to them to build a future worthy of their sacrifice
Am men and women willing to step up and serve – yeah, or be court martialed.
- “help mobilize talented Americans…”
how about not firing Arabic translators because they’re gay?
Ooooo, Neurophius is getting a bit snarky at the end of that last blurb. Great job too. So many thanks for saving me from nightmares tonight.
Times of testing reveal the strength of our nation?
We can and will prevail
God is on our side
thank you and good night..
whew
Lieberman is going to head a bi-partisan group that will confer with Clusterfuck. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Horrible speech.
KO: it was extraordinary to hear Joementum mentioned…
Neuro—unbelievably well done.
Keith: bush invoked the Baker commission yet is acting contrary to most of their recommendations
neurophius, you are now and forever my hero – that was FABULOUS!
Thank you all.
I did it for FDL.
One thing that makes it easier to liveblog Bush is that everything he says is in sound bites.
neurophius @ 348
Very impressive work. Thanks.
TeddySanFran @ 274
Thanks for the link. Done.
Great work Neuro – let me guess, you take minutes at all the big meetings you attend? And your spelling held up great too. I have taken minutes and my spellilng/typing goes to sh*t.
GrandmaJ @ 352
I learned to take good notes in law school in order to survive. Having a keyboard makes it easier.
So when are the good people of Connecticut going to recall Leibermann for fraud?
neurophius @ 337
neuro:
my hero.
thank you so much.
I don’t know about the sky, but the elephants are pink.
McCain has finally reached the fully-realized level of deluded ideologue and pathological liar necessary to qualify as a Republican presidential candidate.
“Rovi-Wan has taught you well”
Curious in Central Texas @
350
bang-up job, neuro. very succinct.