And I’d like a shrubbery…not a big one…just one about the size of a, ahem, Bush, and I would like it be be urinated upon by a team of men in funny clothes with outragious French accents and, uh oh, I’m getting silly and I am a very un-silly person, aren’t I, St. McCain?

Got seriously cruised by Graham Chapman once at a Los Angeles County Museum of Art event.

I felt so honored.

Because, we just have to support the president. After all, he *is* teh president.

It’s getting really silly watching the repigs carrying on both on the House and Senate floors talking about how they had done so much work in the last session in passing the needed Homeland Security laws and Ethics laws and how the new majority is just silly with what they are now trying to do.

Serious people have to wonder . . .

Daytime TRex goodness !!

I understand from the mods behind the scenes that you offered some technical assistance in getting the Max and Moritz picture up for me on that last thread. Thanks, TRex.

Now really must go, ere I get sucked into a sea of Pythonesque humor. From Wilhelm Busch to Graham Chapman . . .

But if you’re in the mood for writing a sequel, how about re-doing the Dead Parrot sketch as the Pentagon coming to Bush to return a Dead Iraq Policy? Bush: “This policy is not dead. It’s just resting.”

I see comments from time to time about candied citrus peel, but I missed the recipe. When does edition one of the fdl cookbook come out? Fine little fundraiser that would be.

Wolcott gets it with his usual flair on the silly Jammies Media.

Ot– Robert Byrd on cspan 2 speaking from the Senate against boosh and his escalation.

Love Monty Python.

We were watching Pirates of the Caribbean last night (the first movie), and I couldn’t help thinking Captain Jack Sparrow was doing a “silly walk” at one point.

I hate to have to run now, too, what with this excellent thread topic here! But sadly I do.

Just wanna leave this thought — after hearing Ted Kennedy say that Iraq is Georgie’s Vietnam, it occurs to me that these sick fucks just probably get even more stubborn when they hear and realize that.

After all, these psychos are the same people who think that the ONLY reason why Vietnam went badly was because the people’s WILL wasn’t strong enough. [Christ, how Hitleresque is that?]

They subscribe to that old Nazi Dolchstosslegende (Stab-in-the-back theory of betrayal by “liberals” and “intellectuals”), so telling them this is Vietnam all over again will probably only get them to say “PRECISELY! Only THIS TIME our will must not waver!”

What in God’s name do we do about lunacy like this?

It would all be more silly if i didn’t have this incredible sinking feeling that we’re entering very dangerous waters.

Bush: “This policy is not dead. It’s just resting.”

It has joined the Choir Invisible!

angie @ 9

Ot– Robert Byrd on cspan 2 speaking from the Senate against boosh and his escalation.

Note the tie.

He defines insanity for BushCo, doing the same thing the same way over and over again expecting different results (paraphrased).

That about says it.

David Ehrenstein @
2

Got seriously cruised by Graham Chapman once at a Los Angeles County Museum of Art event.

I felt so honored.

This is me hating you, David. Jealous, jealous, jealous.

TREX!

Chapman was such an amazing talent.

One of the high points of my college experience was when Graham Chapman made a speaking tour of US university campuses, and the midwestern university I tricked into admitting me was on the list.

The first thing he did upon taking the stage was to require the whole audience (”no opting out!”) to give him 60 seconds of pure, unadulterated abuse. The place erupted and I did my best “NOW LOOK HERE, YOU BASTARD!!” trying to be heard over the uproar. It was heaven.

It was a an evening of anecdotes and general pythonish silliness. One highlight was a demonstration (using audience members) of a drinking game from his medical school days, called “shitties.” I’ll let you use your firedogged imaginations.

There’s nutta wrong with gala luncheons!!!!!!!!!

Okay, kids. I am now officially at work. I need to go look busy. But I’ll check back.

One of t’crossbeams ‘as gon’ askew on t’treadle!!

dingo kidneys @
19

One of t’crossbeams ‘as gon’ askew on t’treadle!!

Well, what on earth does that mean?

‘Mr. Lieberman has learnt the first lesson of not being seen…Not to stand up. However, he has chosen a very obvious piece of cover…’

;>)

OfT: I’m so tired of Tucker Carlson; just now, he was yelling at Congresswoman Maxine Waters. Here’s my email to feedback@msnbc.com and Tucker’s boss dabrams@msnbc.com:

Please stop Tucker Carlson from shouting at Congresswoman Maxine Waters. He is rude and disrespectful. Be sure — absolutely sure — that this behavior on his part makes me change channels to CNN. Every time. And I am a big MSNBC fan.

Chapman was also a medical doctor, I believe. Perhaps I’m wrong on this.

darkblack @ 21

‘Mr. Lieberman has learnt the first lesson of not being seen…Not to stand up. However, he has chosen a very obvious piece of cover…’

;>)

The Joke’s on US!

snowbird42 pointed out the headline in the previous thread, here’s the online version of the story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16546093/

WASHINGTON – A first wave of additional U.S. troops will go into Iraq before the end of the month under President Bush’s new plan, a senior defense official said Tuesday.

…

Moving first would be the 2nd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division, which is in Kuwait and poised to deploy quickly into Iraq.

Looks like they’re rotating a brigade in before another was to be rotated out. This will, of course, increase the number of troops at least temporarily.

As I used to live in SF and voted for DiFi for Mayor, etc., I am curious to know the Senator’s current stand on Iraq and the possible invasion of Iran. Anybody?

Lawnguylander @ 20

dingo kidneys @
19

One of t’crossbeams ‘as gon’ askew on t’treadle!!

Well, what on earth does that mean?

I Don’t know, Mr. Wentworth just told me to come in here and say there was trouble at the mill, that’s all! I didn’t expect a kind of Spanish Inquistion!!

/So it begins. Sorry.

David Ehrenstein @ 2

Got seriously cruised by Graham Chapman once at a Los Angeles County Museum of Art event.

I felt so honored.

That would have been one of the great moments of my life…and I’m straight.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Oklahoma kiddo @ 23

Chapman was also a medical doctor, I believe. Perhaps I’m wrong on this.

Hadn’t heard that before, but I looked it up. Found this on the Wikipedia page for Graham Chapman.

He qualified as a medical doctor at the Barts Hospital Medical College, but rarely practised medicine.

I know those things can be wrong, but it gives some specifics to Google if anyone wants to double check.

dingo kidneys @ 27

Lawnguylander @ 20

dingo kidneys @
19

One of t’crossbeams ‘as gon’ askew on t’treadle!!

Well, what on earth does that mean?

I Don’t know, Mr. Wentworth just told me to come in here and say there was trouble at the mill, that’s all! I didn’t expect a kind of Spanish Inquistion!!

/So it begins. Sorry.

Whoosh!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

There are some who call me…Tim

have we heard from the Ministry of Silly Walks?

He was definitely a doctor. Used to treat people on set during the filming of “Life of Brian”.

punaise @ 32

have we heard from the Ministry of Silly Walks?

That was more of a Cleese bit.

dingo kidneys @ 27

I didn’t expect a kind of Spanish Inquistion!!

/So it begins. Sorry.

“Biggles! Fetch…THE CUSHIONS!”

;>)

punaise @ 32

have we heard from the Ministry of Silly Walks?

Of course. I also remember something about a Ministry of Putting Things on Top of Other Things.

Whoops–I just checked, and it was the Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things.

Well, anyway, some time ago, I took to referring to one of our cats as the “Minister for Knocking Things off of Other Things”.

The Holy Hand Grenades came up this morning on my train … completely independently, I assure you (I was in the next row). I’m not sure that this maladministration can count only to three, nor to four shall they count.

Bloody Peasant!!!

David Ehrenstein @
2

Got seriously cruised by Graham Chapman once at a Los Angeles County Museum of Art event.

I felt so honored.

To get back to a serious matter; I was perusing Mr. Ehrenstein’s site when I came across this.

Say, it isn’t so Dave! I base most of my assumptions about the world on the truth as it is presented by South Park. I downloaded the torrent file provided by Trey Parker and Matt Stone with an episode depicting Tom Cruise being in the closet (I watch it more frequently than Hughes watched Ice Station Zebra). If Monty Python is no more and South Park cannot be believed…what future is there for humanity for god’s sake????!!!!!!

Surgeon (Graham): (putting on Gumby props) Gloves … glasses… moustache… handkerchief… (Gumby voice) I’m going to operate!!

Oklahoma kiddo @ 26

As I used to live in SF and voted for DiFi for Mayor, etc., I am curious to know the Senator’s current stand on Iraq and the possible invasion of Iran. Anybody?

Our CA-Roots group met with a member of Feinstein’s SF office staff last April. She had just written her LAT op-ed calling for no nukes in Iran. We asked that she oppose any Iran War. We were told there was a very low probability of a War on Iran, but that the Senator did not think the President’s AUMF included Iran. We felt a little condescended to about our concern that a War on Iran was in the plans.

Our contacts with her SF office have diminished (in my case, to the level of no responses at all) although members of our group are still in sporadic contact with Senator Boxer’s office staffers (who were much nicer and much more receptive to our ideas, views, and visit).

I have just emailed Senators Feinstein and Boxer, asking that they vocally support Senator Kennedy’s legislation. If there is a response, I will be happy to pass it along.

Dear Senator:

I just watched Senator Kennedy’s speech about the Iraq War, and I support his call to cap the number of US troops and to begin to bring our troops home now.

Please be vocal in your support of Senator Kennedy’s proposal — Californians really need to hear from our Senators. We expect you to lead on this issue.

Thank you for your service to California and to the United States of America.

Sincerely yours,

Constituents may email Boxer and Feinstein.

(Sorry to be OfT, TRex….)

Jan. 15, 2007 issue – A CIA panel has told former officer Valerie Plame she can’t write about her undercover work for the agency, a position that may threaten a lucrative book project with her publisher. Plame’s outing as a CIA officer in July 2003 triggered a criminal probe that culminates next week when Vice President Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby goes on trial for perjury and obstruction.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16…../newsweek/

A long-lost friend of mine dated Graham Chapman briefly, in the late ’70s, as they were in the post-production phase of Life of Brian. This included me enjoying a brief introduction to Chapman at, of all places, the old Odyssey Disco on Beverly and La Cienega in West Hollywood. The “Oddity” burned to the ground sometime in the ’80s.

Jesus, I feel like I’m a million-years old.

New wave of troops set for Iraq

(Fade in on ordinary interview set. Interviewer sitting with man with large Semitic (Jewish) polystyrene nose.)

Interviewer (Michael): Good evening. I have with me in the studio tonight one of Britain’s leading skin specialists – Raymond Luxury Yacht.

Raymond (Graham): That’s not my name.

Interviewer: I’m sorry – Raymond Luxury Yach-t.

Raymond: No, no, no – it’s spelt Raymond: Luxury Yach-t, but it’s pronounced ‘Throatwobbler Mangrove’.

Interviewer: You’re a very silly man and I’m not going to interview you.

Raymond: Ah, anti-semitism!

Interviewer: Not at all. It’s not even a proper nose. (takes it off) It’s polystyrene.

Raymond: Give me my nose back.

Interviewer: You can collect it at reception. Now go away.

Raymond: I want to be on the television.

Interviewer: Well you can’t.

twolf1 @ 44

New wave of troops set for Iraq

That headline clearly wasn’t written by any of the troops concerned.

OT – sorry if previously posted – “I’m really looking forward to speaking to a man who owes his entire career to me,” O’Reilly said.

TeddySanFran @ 42

Oklahoma kiddo @ 26

As I used to live in SF and voted for DiFi for Mayor, etc., I am curious to know the Senator’s current stand on Iraq and the possible invasion of Iran. Anybody?

Our CA-Roots group met with a member of Feinstein’s SF office staff last April. She had just written her LAT op-ed calling for no nukes in Iran. We asked that she oppose any Iran War. We were told there was a very low probability of a War on Iran, but that the Senator did not think the President’s AUMF included Iran. We felt a little condescended to about our concern that a War on Iran was in the plans.

Our contacts with her SF office have diminished (in my case, to the level of no responses at all) although members of our group are still in sporadic contact with Senator Boxer’s office staffers (who were much nicer and much more receptive to our ideas, views, and visit).

I have just emailed Senators Feinstein and Boxer, asking that they vocally support Senator Kennedy’s legislation. If there is a response, I will be happy to pass it along.

Dear Senator:

I just watched Senator Kennedy’s speech about the Iraq War, and I support his call to cap the number of US troops and to begin to bring our troops home now.

Please be vocal in your support of Senator Kennedy’s proposal — Californians really need to hear from our Senators. We expect you to lead on this issue.

Thank you for your service to California and to the United States of America.

Sincerely yours,

Constituents may email Boxer and Feinstein.

(Sorry to be OfT, TRex….)

Thanks!!

twolf1 @ 46

OT – sorry if previously posted – “I’m really looking forward to speaking to a man who owes his entire career to me,” O’Reilly said.

I’m really looking forward to O’Reilly getting his spotty ass kicked all over cable.

Gawd, what an ego O’Reilly has!

EvilDrPuma @ 49

twolf1 @ 46

OT – sorry if previously posted – “I’m really looking forward to speaking to a man who owes his entire career to me,” O’Reilly said.

I’m really looking forward to O’Reilly getting his spotty ass kicked all over cable.

Maybe KO is up to a three way grudge match?

David Schuster on MSNBC saying that the dems have not requested media time after Chimpy’s speech tomorrow night.

WTF?

Some of Bishop John Shelby Spong’s comments on Bill-O…

Bill O’Reilly is at least 6 feet five inches tall. His television audience hardly ever sees him standing so they are surprised to meet him in person. He was raised a Roman Catholic and still practices his faith though, he says not to the satisfaction of those who are zealous. Like many who define themselves as conservatives, O’Reilly tends to see the world in stark contrast between good and evil. Inevitably he sees himself as on the side of the angels. There is, however, a revealing harshness about his rhetoric that projects anything but certainty. He speaks of both willingness and a desire to kill anyone who threatens his worldview, whether it is terrorists or burglars. He refers to Muslim fundamentalists as “villainous Islamic fascists,” a designation that surely resonates with his listeners. He appears, however, to have little understanding of what motivates people to seek the annihilation of their enemies. There is little room in his world for examining the causes of hatred or attempting to understand the subjective relativity of his perspective. For example, in the Galilean War fought between 66 and 73 CE, Jewish guerilla warriors carried out hit and run attacks against Roman soldiers. The Romans called them “terrorists” but to the Jews they were “Freedom Fighters.” The Crusaders of the 11th and 12th centuries were to the Muslims of the Middle East “invading terrorists,” but to the Vatican who sponsored them, they were the bearers of the truth of the Gospel. If the British had defeated the American revolutionaries in the late 18th century, George Washington would have been hanged as a traitor and Benedict Arnold would have been appointed Governor General of the defeated colonies. Right wing ideologues think they see things objectively, without the relativising aspect of their self-oriented perspective. They don’t. Theirs is not a ‘no spin zone.’

Well done, TRex. Happy Birthday GC.

btw, anyone who wants to go off topic (OT) for this thread, and this thread only, must say:

“And now for something completely different.”

Renee in Ohio @ 54

Some of Bishop John Shelby Spong’s comments on Bill-O…

Bill O’Reilly is at least 6 feet five inches tall. His television audience hardly ever sees him standing so they are surprised to meet him in person. He was raised a Roman Catholic and still practices his faith though, he says not to the satisfaction of those who are zealous. Like many who define themselves as conservatives, O’Reilly tends to see the world in stark contrast between good and evil. Inevitably he sees himself as on the side of the angels. There is, however, a revealing harshness about his rhetoric that projects anything but certainty. He speaks of both willingness and a desire to kill anyone who threatens his worldview, whether it is terrorists or burglars. He refers to Muslim fundamentalists as “villainous Islamic fascists,” a designation that surely resonates with his listeners. He appears, however, to have little understanding of what motivates people to seek the annihilation of their enemies. There is little room in his world for examining the causes of hatred or attempting to understand the subjective relativity of his perspective. For example, in the Galilean War fought between 66 and 73 CE, Jewish guerilla warriors carried out hit and run attacks against Roman soldiers. The Romans called them “terrorists” but to the Jews they were “Freedom Fighters.” The Crusaders of the 11th and 12th centuries were to the Muslims of the Middle East “invading terrorists,” but to the Vatican who sponsored them, they were the bearers of the truth of the Gospel. If the British had defeated the American revolutionaries in the late 18th century, George Washington would have been hanged as a traitor and Benedict Arnold would have been appointed Governor General of the defeated colonies. Right wing ideologues think they see things objectively, without the relativising aspect of their self-oriented perspective. They don’t. Theirs is not a ‘no spin zone.’

Very good!

urizon @ 43

Jesus, I feel like I’m a million-years old.

That’s OK, T-Rex is 65 million years old, but doesn’t look a day over 50 million.

scarecrow @ 53

It’s…

EvilDrPuma @ 58

scarecrow @ 53

It’s…

No, it’s not.

EvilDrPuma @ 58

scarecrow @ 53

It’s…

Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you’re chewing on life’s gristle
Don’t grumble, give a whistle
And this’ll help things turn out for the best…

And…always look on the bright side of life…
Always look on the light side of life…

If life seems jolly rotten
There’s something you’ve forgotten
And that’s to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you’re feeling in the dumps
Don’t be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle – that’s the thing.

And…always look on the bright side of life…
Always look on the light side of life…

For life is quite absurd
And death’s the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin – give the audience a grin
Enjoy it – it’s your last chance anyhow.

So always look on the bright side of death
Just before you draw your terminal breath

Life’s a piece of sh*t
When you look at it
Life’s a laugh and death’s a joke, it’s true.
You’ll see it’s all a show
Keep ‘em laughing as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.

And always look on the bright side of life…
Always look on the right side of life…
(Come on guys, cheer up!)
Always look on the bright side of life…
Always look on the bright side of life…
(Worse things happen at sea, you know.)
Always look on the bright side of life…
(I mean – what have you got to lose?)
(You know, you come from nothing – you’re going back to nothing.
What have you lost? Nothing!)
Always look on the right side of life…

Anyone remember the context of this . . . ?

O.K., OK-k.

60–Life of Brian, bunch of guys on crucifixes.

If I’m not mistaken, the crosses were able to move in a dance-like way.

RevDeb @ 58

Anyone remember the context of this . . . ?

“Meaning of Life.” It springs off the “Live Organ Donors” sketch.

RevDeb @ 53

David Schuster on MSNBC saying that the dems have not requested media time after Chimpy’s speech tomorrow night.

WTF?

Ordinarily, I’d agree with the WTF; but, in this case if he wants to whistle in the dark it just might be a good idea to go ahead and let him do it all by his lonesome. Any sort of response might only lend credence where absolutely none is due.

EvilDrPuma @ 61

RevDeb @ 58

Anyone remember the context of this . . . ?

“Meaning of Life.” It springs off the “Live Organ Donors” sketch.

Okay, I wasn’t even paying attention on that one, and I admit it.

scarecrow @ 55

Well done, TRex. Happy Birthday GC.

btw, anyone who wants to go off topic (OT) for this thread, and this thread only, must say:

“And now for something completely different.”

And for those of you who don’t like sport, we have…

Renee in Ohio @ 62

60–Life of Brian, bunch of guys on crucifixes.

If I’m not mistaken, the crosses were able to move in a dance-like way.

That’s my recollection too. They really GOT irony.

johnSwifty @ 64

RevDeb @ 53

David Schuster on MSNBC saying that the dems have not requested media time after Chimpy’s speech tomorrow night.

WTF?

Ordinarily, I’d agree with the WTF; but, in this case if he wants to whistle in the dark it just might be a good idea to go ahead and let him do it all by his lonesome. Any sort of response might only lend credence where absolutely none is due.

Methinks that the SOTU is going to be an all together different experience this year. Could be a pretty quiet crowd for him to play to. I hope.

TeddySanFran @ 42

Oklahoma kiddo @ 26

As I used to live in SF and voted for DiFi for Mayor, etc., I am curious to know the Senator’s current stand on Iraq and the possible invasion of Iran. Anybody?

Dear Senator:

I just watched Senator Kennedy’s speech about the Iraq War, and I support his call to cap the number of US troops and to begin to bring our troops home now.

Please be vocal in your support of Senator Kennedy’s proposal — Californians really need to hear from our Senators. We expect you to lead on this issue.

Thank you for your service to California and to the United States of America.

Sincerely yours,

Constituents may email Boxer and Feinstein.

(Sorry to be OfT, TRex….)

Thanks for the inspiration, as well as the links to make immediate action easier and more enticing…I wrote to both Senators just now.

And now for something completely different – Sen. Johnson upgraded to fair condition

Methinks that the SOTU is going to be an all together different experience this year. Could be a pretty quiet crowd for him to play to. I hope.

Maybe that’s what’s needed. An “passive” incident by the Dems to bring out the Colonel Jessup that Shrubs meds are keeping under control. Let him meltdown in front of the entire country.

twolf1 @ 70

And now for something completely different – Sen. Johnson upgraded to fair condition

Woohoo! In your face, Tucker Carlson!

RevDeb @ 68

Methinks that the SOTU is going to be an all together different experience this year. Could be a pretty quiet crowd for him to play to. I hope.

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David Ehrenstein @ 2

Got seriously cruised by Graham Chapman once at a Los Angeles County Museum of Art event.

I felt so honored.

Wow. You were cruised by a legend!

way to go, SOCD! and welcome!

johnSwifty @ 73

RevDeb @ 68

Methinks that the SOTU is going to be an all together different experience this year. Could be a pretty quiet crowd for him to play to. I hope.

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Just thinking of it makes me cringe. Better stock up on the beer.

Mr Barnard: WHAT DO YOU WANT?

Man: Well, I was told outside that…

Mr Barnard: Don’t give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!

Man: What?

Mr Barnard: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!

Man: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I’m not going to just stand…!!

Mr Barnard: OH, oh I’m sorry, but this is abuse.

Man: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.

Mr Barnard: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.

Man: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.

Mr Barnard: Not at all.

Man: Thank You. (Under his breath) Stupid git!!

johnSwifty @ 73

RevDeb @ 68

Methinks that the SOTU is going to be an all together different experience this year. Could be a pretty quiet crowd for him to play to. I hope.

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There will be chirping. Hopefully it will only be one side of the aisle and the other will STFU.

He no longer represents the Office of the President. He is an embarrassment and a failure and should be treated as such.

I miss CELEBRITY DEATH MATCH, cause I would love to see Bush gettin’ his ass kicked, i’d put him in the ring with Pelosi just for the fun of it. The n Pelosi’s stocks would go up even more http://www.trendio.com/word.ph…..anguage=en

Think there will be a special kiss moment for someone at this year’s SOTU?

Renee in Ohio @ 80

Think there will be a special kiss moment for someone at this year’s SOTU?

Probably Joe again. They deserve each other.

and now for something completely different . . . common sense on a cable news show

my favorite old marine breaks it down for Tweety yesterday -

rotating in, delayed re deployments, etc.
note Tweety rightly called it an “escalation” yesterday – today it’s back to “surge”

video:
http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/m……msnbc.msn

transcript:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16541961/

REP. JACK MURTHA, (D) PENNSYLVANIA: Well, so far, I haven‘t seen the strategy, Chris. For instance, we put 10,000 troops—the president ordered 10,000 troops increased in Baghdad. And since that time—that was two or three months ago—and since that time, we have an increase in violence, we had more Iraqis killed and more Americans killed in the last couple of months.

And here‘s the problem that we face. If he‘s able to try to increase the number of troops, he won‘t be able to send the 20,000 in altogether. And even then, he‘ll have to extend people who are there and he‘ll have to send people back before their year is up at home. And that means they won‘t have completed their cycle of training that they need and their families, of course, are suffering. And so a piecemeal approach is not the answer to this. And I think it‘s a real mistake for him to increase the number of troops. It‘s more targets. It‘s people without a mission. I have not seen a mission yet to work. He has to say at some point, “We‘re going to redeploy the troops, give the Iraqis the incentive.”

Now, here‘s one other point that I make: there‘s no strategic reserve in the United States at this time because of the war itself

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emphasis mine

I eagerly await the first standing ovation at the SOTU — when Chimpy sez “Madame Speaker….”

For the rest, I recommend silence and sitting on hands. Most Americans will respect, understand, and agree with that, I imagine.

TeddySanFran @ 83

I eagerly await the first standing ovation at the SOTU — when Chimpy sez “Madame Speaker….”

For the rest, I recommend silence and sitting on hands. Most Americans will respect, understand, and agree with that, I imagine.

And the rest can bite me.

and now for something completely different:

MSNBC is planning to do an all day event in preparation for the dumbass speech tomorrow night starting at 9 AM.

words fail.

Renee in Ohio @ 79

Think there will be a special kiss moment for someone at this year’s SOTU?

I’m not sure congressional pages are invited.

Renee in Ohio @ 80

Think there will be a special kiss moment for someone at this year’s SOTU?

Laura and Barney.

RevDeb @ 85

and now for something completely different:

MSNBC is planning to do an all day event in preparation for the dumbass speech tomorrow night starting at 9 AM.

words fail.

This gives the Duncan Hunter-types lots of time to endorse the New Way Forward while simultaneously criticizing Democrats who’ve “challenged the President’s plan without hearing him out.” Like on Tweety today, Duncan Hunter1.0 wrapped his pretty lips around that one really well.

Renee in Ohio @ 80

Think there will be a special kiss moment for someone at this year’s SOTU?

Betcha Ellen Tauscher’s in the far back row, and that Chimpy seeks her out during his entrance! Float, anyone?

TeddySanFran @ 83

I eagerly await the first standing ovation at the SOTU — when Chimpy sez “Madame Speaker….”

What’s the over/under on a ‘backrub moment’?

;>)

“Oh, peace! SHUT UP!”

TeddySanFran @ 88

RevDeb @ 85

and now for something completely different:

MSNBC is planning to do an all day event in preparation for the dumbass speech tomorrow night starting at 9 AM.

words fail.

This gives the Duncan Hunter-types lots of time to endorse the New Way Forward while simultaneously criticizing Democrats who’ve “challenged the President’s plan without hearing him out.” Like on Tweety today, Duncan Hunter1.0 wrapped his pretty lips around that one really well.

We get to see who lines up for the Kool Aid. Even so, a WHOLE day of it? ick.

retirin’ in five @
71

Methinks that the SOTU is going to be an all together different experience this year. Could be a pretty quiet crowd for him to play to. I hope.

Maybe that’s what’s needed. An “passive” incident by the Dems to bring out the Colonel Jessup that Shrubs meds are keeping under control. Let him meltdown in front of the entire country.

It’s more appropriate that the Silly Party give the response to the SOTU at this point as I’m convinced that Bush is enagaging some kind of performance art or pulling some sick frat prank on the nation at this point. So from the Silly Party I give you the tanned, rested and ready:

Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F’tang-F’tang-Ole-Biscuitbarrel

johnSwifty @
64

RevDeb @ 53

David Schuster on MSNBC saying that the dems have not requested media time after Chimpy’s speech tomorrow night.

WTF?

Ordinarily, I’d agree with the WTF; but, in this case if he wants to whistle in the dark it just might be a good idea to go ahead and let him do it all by his lonesome. Any sort of response might only lend credence where absolutely none is due.

He can put as much lipstick on it as he wants to, but everyone already knows it’s a pig. We don’t even need to see it. And we already voted against it two months ago. I think a non-reponse is a good idea. He’s long since been excused from being taken seriously. Let him have all the rope he wants.

TeddySanFran @ 88

This gives the Duncan Hunter-types lots of time to endorse the New Way Forward while simultaneously criticizing Democrats who’ve “challenged the President’s plan without hearing him out.” Like on Tweety today, Duncan Hunter1.0 wrapped his pretty lips around that one really well.

Who the fuck hasn’t “heard him out?” He’s been telegraphing this punch for two goddamned months! What’s left to “hear out?”

words fail.

au contraire Rev -

inane, turgid, vacuous, predictable, banal, hackneyed, shopworn, trite, bromidic, or how about . . .

dull and tiresome but with pretensions of significance or originality

twolf1 @
86

Renee in Ohio @ 79

Think there will be a special kiss moment for someone at this year’s SOTU?

I’m not sure congressional pages are invited.

Heeeeeyyyyyy Oooooohhhhhhhh! Yessir!!

Frank Probst @ 93

[with regard to no dem response on speech]…He can put as much lipstick on it as he wants to, but everyone already knows it’s a pig. We don’t even need to see it. And we already voted against it two months ago. I think a non-reponse is a good idea. He’s long since been excused from being taken seriously. Let him have all the rope he wants.

WORD!

EvilDrPuma @ 94

TeddySanFran @ 88

This gives the Duncan Hunter-types lots of time to endorse the New Way Forward while simultaneously criticizing Democrats who’ve “challenged the President’s plan without hearing him out.” Like on Tweety today, Duncan Hunter1.0 wrapped his pretty lips around that one really well.

Who the fuck hasn’t “heard him out?” He’s been telegraphing this punch for two goddamned months! What’s left to “hear out?”

He had three years. He blew it. The problem now isn’t that we’re not listening to Bush. The problem is that Bush isn’t listening to us.

The SOTU should actually be pretty short this year.

‘My fellow citizens, you are fucked. Thank you and goodnight.’

Frank Probst @ 98

EvilDrPuma @ 94

Who the fuck hasn’t “heard him out?” He’s been telegraphing this punch for two goddamned months! What’s left to “hear out?”

He had three years. He blew it. The problem now isn’t that we’re not listening to Bush. The problem is that Bush isn’t listening to us.

Well, you know how it is…he’s the fucking
decider, and he knows what’s best, and all we peons have is historical context and basic arithmetic to tell us that this is the worst idea he’s tried to sell since going into Iraq in the first place.

Librarian…did you mean toffee-nosed twit? and now for something completely different…..I DO plan to call my Senator tomorrow and thank him and support him in his attempt to step on the neck of the evil beast. I love Ted Kennedy and am occasionally surprised by the number of people who do NOT love him…. usually repubs, so, then, well why am I surprised ????

CNN – re: chimpy surge esskullayshun escalation speech – ‘part of plan is to try to get iraqi troops to gain operational control over iraq by november’

-plan is to get addtl troops in Iraq by end of month

OfT:

W’ette and JokeLine have started disagreeing with one another, the very day after their silly “I agree with Joe….” and “I agree with Ana[l] Marie….” silliness was featured here at FDL!

What an exercise in InBeltwayVanity their little Swampland hilarity is.

EvilDrPuma @ 100

He seems to think that because he can’t remember what he said and did last week (never mind last month or last year), that the rest of us can’t remember either. I’d call him an idiot, but that’s an insult to honest idiots.

And MSNBC isn’t any better, if they think a whole day of ‘OMG, we need to send more troops’ is going to improve the lack of good reception it’s already gotten.

p-i-b, if your Senator is Ted Kennedy, you have my undying envy, as RevDeb knows already.

and welcome!

omg, JokeLine must be stopped:

Liberals were “right” about Vietnam, but they have paid a price ever since because they were so obnoxious about their correctness. The leftier liberals proceeded to see Vietnam in every American military initiative–the placement of Pershing missiles in Europe, Star Wars, the removal of Noriega, the first Gulf War–and they suffered as a result. Just because they’re right about Iraq, and about this escalation, it doesn’t mean they won’t be blamed by the public if the result of an American withdrawal is lethal chaos in the region and $200 per barrel oil. All I’m saying is that those who oppose the war now have a responsibility to (a) oppose it judiciously, without hateful or extreme rhetoric and (b) start thinking very hard–and in a very detailed way–about how we begin to recover from this mess.–Joe Klein

darkblack @ 36

dingo kidneys @ 27

I didn’t expect a kind of Spanish Inquistion!!

/So it begins. Sorry.

“Biggles! Fetch…THE CUSHIONS!”

;>)

I LOVE this – but am too dense to know who the guy on the left is. Please illuminate?

My party, the Democrat party, has not requested time after the Bush thing tomorrow night for a response?

Matthews just said on Hardball that the Democrat who runs hard against the Iraq war will win the presidency.

I’ll sing a duet with punaise;

My contempt of Joe ( insert jackasses name here) will never subside.

TeddySanFran @ 105

omg, JokeLine must be stopped:

Liberals were “right” about Vietnam, but they have paid a price ever since because they were so obnoxious about their correctness. The leftier liberals proceeded to see Vietnam in every American military initiative–the placement of Pershing missiles in Europe, Star Wars, the removal of Noriega, the first Gulf War–and they suffered as a result. Just because they’re right about Iraq, and about this escalation, it doesn’t mean they won’t be blamed by the public if the result of an American withdrawal is lethal chaos in the region and $200 per barrel oil. All I’m saying is that those who oppose the war now have a responsibility to (a) oppose it judiciously, without hateful or extreme rhetoric and (b) start thinking very hard–and in a very detailed way–about how we begin to recover from this mess.–Joe Klein

CNN.com Alert:

A draft of President Bush’s Iraq policy speech says the aim is to have Iraqi forces in control of all security by November and for extra U.S troops to deploy by the end of this month, a U.S. official tells CNN.

And now for something completely different – Soldier diagnosed with mental problems

An Army private charged with the slaughter of an Iraqi family was diagnosed as a homicidal threat by a military mental health team three months before the attack.

Jacqrat @ 110

CNN.com Alert:

A draft of President Bush’s Iraq policy speech says the aim is to have Iraqi forces in control of all security by November and for extra U.S troops to deploy by the end of this month, a U.S. official tells CNN.

I still think everyone should get a pony. If you’re going to go off the deep end, you might as well go all the way.

penguins in burma @ 101

Librarian…did you mean toffee-nosed twit? and now for something completely different…..I DO plan to call my Senator tomorrow and thank him and support him in his attempt to step on the neck of the evil beast. I love Ted Kennedy and am occasionally surprised by the number of people who do NOT love him…. usually repubs, so, then, well why am I surprised ????

Are you a Bay Stater? If so, we have a Rootz group that communicates with the Senators’ offices. There are over 60 on the list but about 10 who regularly talk or e-mail or party or something. If you want to join the group, send me an e-mail at my name at mac dot com.

RevDeb @ 85

and now for something completely different:

MSNBC is planning to do an all day event in preparation for the dumbass speech tomorrow night starting at 9 AM.

words fail.

conspiracy I say…
the gop doesn’t want Olbermann’s regularly scheduled 8:00 news to be the introduction for Bush’s speech

Jacqrat @ 107

I LOVE this – but am too dense to know who the guy on the left is. Please illuminate?

Cardinal Atrios

;>)

2006 Breaks U.S. Temperature Record
National Climatic Data Center Says Last Year Was Warmest In Our History
WASHINGTON, Jan. 9, 2007

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..2950.shtml

njr @ 114

RevDeb @ 85

and now for something completely different:

MSNBC is planning to do an all day event in preparation for the dumbass speech tomorrow night starting at 9 AM.

words fail.

conspiracy I say…
the gop doesn’t want Olbermann’s regularly scheduled 8:00 news to be the introduction for Bush’s speech

I’d love for Keith to do what he does so well, the Play by Play.

Bush lifts Alaska oil, gas drilling ban By H.JOSEF HEBERT
Tue Jan 9, 2:15 PM ET

WASHINGTON President Bush lifted the drilling ban Tuesday for Alaska’s Bristol Bay, clearing the way for the Interior Department to open the fish-rich waters to oil and natural gas development.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..alaska_oil

darkblack @ 115

Jacqrat @ 107

I LOVE this – but am too dense to know who the guy on the left is. Please illuminate?

Cardinal Atrios
;>)

Aha! I guess he got to READ the charges, then, eh?

Oklahoma kiddo @
116

2006 Breaks U.S. Temperature Record
National Climatic Data Center Says Last Year Was Warmest In Our History
WASHINGTON, Jan. 9, 2007

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..2950.shtml

It got down to minus 35 degrees F at the ET homestead last night. All the way up to minus 19 here at mid-day today. No sign of cherry blossoms….

K.O., TRex and Colbert comment on Chimpy Speeches MST3K style

twolf1 @ 121

K.O., TRex and Colbert comment on Chimpy Speeches MST3K style

where can I get tickets?

currently listening to Robert Siegel interview Nancy aka Madame Speaker Pelosi. she states that we will not abandon troops..she says” just because the president has shown poor judgement doesn’t mean we will withdraw funding.”..she says his speech will reflect ” a desperate cause” and that he has “dug a hole so deep he hasn’t seen the light in a long time”….jeezuz a. what took us so long to plainly state that the man has failed TOTALLY in Iraq. I feel a psychosis(his) in the air…wish I had the stomach to watch him tomorrow night but, I don’t. and thank you Teddy SanFran for liking my senator….I am twice blessed as Barney Frank is my Rep. He suffers fools poorly…I love him

Oklahoma kiddo @ 118

Bush lifts Alaska oil, gas drilling ban By H.JOSEF HEBERT
Tue Jan 9, 2:15 PM ET

WASHINGTON President Bush lifted the drilling ban Tuesday for Alaska’s Bristol Bay, clearing the way for the Interior Department to open the fish-rich waters to oil and natural gas development.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..alaska_oil

This news isn’t unexpected. But Alaskans are pretty evenly divided on this, as Bristol Bay is the richest salmon fishery on the planet and has been managed quite rationally by the state. A large majority of Alaskans usually support mineral development, but not at the expense of fish habitat quality.

Jacqrat @ 119

Aha! I guess he got to READ the charges, then, eh?

In addition to his duties involving the comfy chair, whilst Bigoulitsas operates…The rack!

;>)

penguins in burma @ 123

currently listening to Robert Siegel interview Nancy aka Madame Speaker Pelosi. she states that we will not abandon troops..she says” just because the president has shown poor judgement doesn’t mean we will withdraw funding.”..she says his speech will reflect ” a desperate cause” and that he has “dug a hole so deep he hasn’t seen the light in a long time”….jeezuz a. what took us so long to plainly state that the man has failed TOTALLY in Iraq. I feel a psychosis(his) in the air…wish I had the stomach to watch him tomorrow night but, I don’t. and thank you Teddy SanFran for liking my senator….I am twice blessed as Barney Frank is my Rep. He suffers fools poorly…I love him

Barney is GREAT. Love him. I’ve got Markey who has been doing some really good things this past year, much to my surprise.

twolf1 @ 111

And now for something completely different – Soldier diagnosed with mental problems

An Army private charged with the slaughter of an Iraqi family was diagnosed as a homicidal threat by a military mental health team three months before the attack.

to be completely different, we need to see figures showing how many of the current troops and the to be surged troops are likewise diagnosed, and medicated to return to duty…

darkblack @ 125

Jacqrat @ 119

Aha! I guess he got to READ the charges, then, eh?

In addition to his duties involving the comfy chair, whilst Bigoulitsas operates…The rack!

;>)

db, It’s so good to see you back. (not that I’ve been on the threads a lot myself) It feels like the end of a drought.

And now for something completely different – Sen. Gordon Smith (R-OR) Calls Kennedy’s Iraq Escalation Bill ‘A Good Idea’

twolf1,

and now for something completely different – Soldier diagnosed with mental problems

Gilliard, in July -

Most people feel some serious, life altering guilt at killing other human beings. The idea of Green being diasppointed in killing should have scared people shitless. This reporter should have realized that Green was not just being cool, but was so ill he should have never made it out of Benning.

http://stevegilliard.blogspot……sycho.html

twolf1 @ 129

And now for something completely different – Sen. Gordon Smith (R-OR) Calls Kennedy’s Iraq Escalation Bill ‘A Good Idea’

Do you think he’s afraid of being Chaffe’d?

Do Alaskans still get a check from the state as a kind of windfall from oil? If this wasn’t the case would it have any effect on how Alaskans vote respective of opening additional lands for petroleum exploration. I don’t have a clue.

must be my first time in moderation,
see gilliard above

Ed*ard Teller @ 120

Oklahoma kiddo @
116

2006 Breaks U.S. Temperature Record
National Climatic Data Center Says Last Year Was Warmest In Our History
WASHINGTON, Jan. 9, 2007

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..2950.shtml

It got down to minus 35 degrees F at the ET homestead last night. All the way up to minus 19 here at mid-day today. No sign of cherry blossoms….

Are the glaciers still receding?

njr @ 133

must be my first time in moderation,
see gilliard above

Kinda like a form of purgatory at the lake.

Oregon has a long tradition of moderate gooper senators. Hatfield was a good example- helped pull the plug on Viet Nam.

RevDeb @ 128

db, It’s so good to see you back. (not that I’ve been on the threads a lot myself) It feels like the end of a drought.

Thank you so much, RevDeb…What a kind thing to say.

Regretfully, my excessive presence of late during the daytime shift at FDL will soon revert back to an ‘evenings and weekends’ plan, due to employment demands.

rwcole @ 136

Oregon has a long tradition of moderate gooper senators. Hatfield was a good example- helped pull the plug on Viet Nam.

And then there was Packwood with the wandering hands.

Even so, OR has quite a blue streak running up and down the state on the I-5 corridor. It should be a reasonable blue pick-up.

darkblack @ 137

RevDeb @ 128

db, It’s so good to see you back. (not that I’ve been on the threads a lot myself) It feels like the end of a drought.

Thank you so much, RevDeb…What a kind thing to say.

Regretfully, my excessive presence of late during the daytime shift at FDL will soon revert back to an ‘evenings and weekends’ plan, due to employment demands.

Evenings and weekends are good. I just can’t make it to Late Nite and get any sleep at all. Getting too little as it is.

OT: Iraqi Sectarian Violence comes to US?

On Michigan Public Radio tday was a segment about recent vandalism against Shiite stores and mosques in Dearborn, Michigan. Many in the Shiite community think it is Sunni reprisals for Shiite street celebrations after the hanging of Saddam. While many in the community are trying to discount that idea, unfortunately perception can be reality to some. Some fear growing sectarian violence as a result.

Chris Matthews with a fair and balanced line up today–Hunter, Duberstein, and Bond for a GOP trifecta and they were balanced out on the far right by Democrat Ben Nelson.

-GSD

P.S.

Getting closer.

Iraqi news agency moves from Egypt to Jordan.

Almost there.

Ed*ard Teller @
124

Oklahoma kiddo @ 118

Bush lifts Alaska oil, gas drilling ban By H.JOSEF HEBERT
Tue Jan 9, 2:15 PM ET

WASHINGTON President Bush lifted the drilling ban Tuesday for Alaska’s Bristol Bay, clearing the way for the Interior Department to open the fish-rich waters to oil and natural gas development.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..alaska_oil

This news isn’t unexpected. But Alaskans are pretty evenly divided on this, as Bristol Bay is the richest salmon fishery on the planet and has been managed quite rationally by the state. A large majority of Alaskans usually support mineral development, but not at the expense of fish habitat quality.

Keep Captain Hazelwood out of the bay.

-GSD

RevDeb @ 85

and now for something completely different:

MSNBC is planning to do an all day event in preparation for the dumbass speech tomorrow night starting at 9 AM.

words fail.

Good God, what else CAN be said? And cbl, LMAO!

How about:

knitted eyebrows and beadier eyes, straining to express fake concern,

gripping the podium while hunching over to make a fake macho remark with that added dash of Texas frat boy swagger, but less arrogant by design thanks to coaches telling him to be more humble as the people are pissed,

more mangling of the King’s English, and some garbling, but not too much,

lots of finessing of war terminology (whatever happened to all that binary, pre-war thinking?),

repeated, shameless, flat-as-a-pancake attempts to scare people into believing in an endless war.

snark.

I noticed when I saw a clip of his WMD speech, that smirk I was so used to seeing. It’s gone now, that confident smirk. He may still smirk, but it’s a hollow one.

We’ve had two world wars. Why is so impossible for many to believe a third world war is possible? Or perhaps probable.

mandrake @ 143

RevDeb @ 85

and now for something completely different:

MSNBC is planning to do an all day event in preparation for the dumbass speech tomorrow night starting at 9 AM.

words fail.

Good God, what else CAN be said? And cbl, LMAO!

How about:

knitted eyebrows and beadier eyes, straining to express fake concern,

gripping the podium while hunching over to make a fake macho remark with that added dash of Texas frat boy swagger, but less arrogant by design thanks to coaches telling him to be more humble as the people are pissed,

more mangling of the King’s English, and some garbling, but not too much,

lots of finessing of war terminology (whatever happened to all that binary, pre-war thinking?),

repeated, shameless, flat-as-a-pancake attempts to scare people into believing in an endless war.

snark.

I noticed when I saw a clip of his WMD speech, that smirk I was so used to seeing. It’s gone now, that confident smirk. He may still smirk, but it’s a hollow one.

Don’t forget the strategic pearl clutching

Bloody Peasants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgsG_nbU8j0

I see George Bush unveiling his new plan for Iraq while riding his bicycle. This will give the impression of forward movement. The effect will be spoiled, however, when the camera pulls away showing Bush on a bike machine on a flatbed truck going the opposite direction.

A Shiny New Year Indeed . . .

Bush forced to withdraw 4 extreme conservative judicial nominees

including this guy

Haynes is the
Pentagon’s top lawyer, and was an architect of the Bush’s now-abandoned policy toward treatment of detainees in the war on terror. He had been tapped for the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..withdrawal

kewl

cbl @ 148

A Shiny New Year Indeed . . .

Bush forced to withdraw 4 extreme conservative judicial nominees

including this guy

Haynes is the
Pentagon’s top lawyer, and was an architect of the Bush’s now-abandoned policy toward treatment of detainees in the war on terror. He had been tapped for the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..withdrawal

kewl

Elections have consequences. BooYah!

crikey!

h/t americablog above

Good Bob Cesca article on Kennedy bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/ kennedy-offers-a-slam-dun_b_38223.html

Hugh @ 147

I see George Bush unveiling his new plan for Iraq while riding his bicycle. This will give the impression of forward movement. The effect will be spoiled, however, when the camera pulls away showing Bush on a bike machine on a flatbed truck going the opposite direction.

Oh, lordie! That’s good!

Hugh @ 147

I see George Bush unveiling his new plan for Iraq while riding his bicycle. This will give the impression of forward movement. The effect will be spoiled, however, when the camera pulls away showing Bush on a bike machine on a flatbed truck going the opposite direction.

Eagles:

Well, I’m a standing on a corner
In winslow, arizona
And such a fine sight to see
It’s a war, my lord, on a flatbed
Ford slowin’ down to take a look at me
Come on, Condi, don’t say wanna be
I gotta know if your sweet surge is
Gonna save me
We may lose and we may win though
We will never leave here again
So open up, I’m climbin’ in,
So take it easy

Allman Bros.:

“Lord, I was born a bumblin’ man,
Tryin to make a livin and doin the best I can.
And when its time for leavin’,
I hope you’ll understand,
That I was born a bumblin’ man.”

this C-SPAN archive page has Joe Lieberman listed as (I-CT).

http://www.cspan.org/videoarch…..veDays=100

US troops on the ground in Somalia too.

Is this a game of Risk?

-GSD

woops, I guess snarkface won’t be gripping the podium – they always sit at that little desk – folded hands; patheticly ineffective attempts at appearing humble and concerned . . .

surging before the end of the month
AP
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16546093/
but the increase in forces on the ground will be gradual

define: gradual surge

“urge”

punaise @ 153

Hugh @ 147

I see George Bush unveiling his new plan for Iraq while riding his bicycle. This will give the impression of forward movement. The effect will be spoiled, however, when the camera pulls away showing Bush on a bike machine on a flatbed truck going the opposite direction.

Eagles:

Well, I’m a standing on a corner
In winslow, arizona
And such a fine sight to see
It’s a war, my lord, on a flatbed
Ford slowin’ down to take a look at me
Come on, Condi, don’t say wanna be
I gotta know if your sweet surge is
Gonna save me
We may lose and we may win though
We will never leave here again
So open up, I’m climbin’ in,
So take it easy

Allman Bros.:

“Lord, I was born a bumblin’ man,
Tryin to make a livin and doin the best I can.
And when its time for leavin’,
I hope you’ll understand,
That I was born a bumblin’ man.”

Bush/McCain/Lieberman

BuMbLe

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 159

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

And Rahm. Don’t forget Rahmbo

GSD,

Is this a game of Risk?

If you haven’t seen it already, you may enjoy this from Unca TBogg

http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2007…..ompus.html

RevDeb @ 160

Oklahoma kiddo @ 159

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

And Rahm. Don’t forget Rahmbo

Oh, I won’t. ;)

Elections DO have consequences but this one tipped the Richter scale and that hasn’t happened in a very long time. My biggest fear right now is that Dems are going to “quibble.” Quibbling is erosive, it distracts and I hope everyone contacts their Congressional Reps to say….”shoulder to shoulder” now is NOT the time to let ego get in the way!!! ONE VOICE PLEASE!!!! cut Bush off at the knees and take no prisoners….anyway, my humble opinion….and yes, RevDeb, I am a Bay Stater….SE Bristol County…..

RevDeb @ 160

Oklahoma kiddo @ 159

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

And Rahm. Don’t forget Rahmbo

Rahm’s bad news, but I don’t think he deserves to be elevated to that pantheon of contemptible evil just yet.

The reconciliation process begun by Prime Minister Maliki with his thoughtful and tasteful execution of Saddam Hussein hours before the beginning of a major Sunni holiday gained momentum today with an attack, backed by US forces, on a Sunni neighborhood killing 50. I think these statesman like gestures show that we may have misundersestimated the chances for success of the new Bush plan.

Hugh @
165

The reconciliation process begun by Prime Minister Maliki with his thoughtful and tasteful execution of Saddam Hussein hours before the beginning of a major Sunni holiday gained momentum today with an attack, backed by US forces, on a Sunni neighborhood killing 50. I think these statesman like gestures show that we may have misundersestimated the chances for success of the new Bush plan.

Finally, a political solution with real diplomacy.

Thank God the adults are in charge.

-GSD

urizon @ 44

A long-lost friend of mine dated Graham Chapman briefly, in the late ’70s, as they were in the post-production phase of Life of Brian. This included me enjoying a brief introduction to Chapman at, of all places, the old Odyssey Disco on Beverly and La Cienega in West Hollywood. The “Oddity” burned to the ground sometime in the ’80s.

Jesus, I feel like I’m a million-years old.

YOU feel old? I went to the Odyssey when it was a medieval England themed restaurant/dinner theatre. The name escapes me at the moment.

Oklahoma kiddo @
159

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

my timeline
I’ve disliked Bush longest
then discovered Condi’s lies…
that introduction lead me to suspect Rove and Cheney
alas, Lieberman hid from my view longest

they’ve all melted together now

Whoa! I have a lot of catching up to do. That’s what I get for actually working.

punaise @ 164

RevDeb @ 160

Oklahoma kiddo @ 159

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

And Rahm. Don’t forget Rahmbo

Rahm’s bad news, but I don’t think he deserves to be elevated to that pantheon of contemptible evil just yet.

He stays on my list unless and until he earns his way off it.

RevDeb @ 81

Renee in Ohio @ 80

Think there will be a special kiss moment for someone at this year’s SOTU?

Probably Joe again. They deserve each other.

I think Joe & McCain this time. Spread the love.

mandrake @
158

Bush/McCain/Lieberman

BuMbLe

per a certain Boxer:

“float like a butterfly corpse in the Tigris, sting stink like a BuMbLe-bee”

Grassley-R and Durbin-D just had an actual debate in the Senate.

[thunk…egregious fainting]

More of this please.

RevDeb @ 170

He stays on my list unless and until he earns his way off it.

fair enough. there’s plenty of contempt to go around.

punaise—

I don’t know what you do in your daily life, maybe you don’t either :) but you are absolutely on fire here the last few days. Do people in your offline life [sure, you remember your offline life?] know how totally AMAZING you are?

njr @ 168

Oklahoma kiddo @
159

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

my timeline
I’ve disliked Bush longest
then discovered Condi’s lies…
that introduction lead me to suspect Rove and Cheney
alas, Lieberman hid from my view longest

they’ve all melted together now

What a hideous mess. Would like to see someone to a computer-generated morph of those 5.

njr @ 168

Oklahoma kiddo @
159

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

my timeline
I’ve disliked Bush longest
then discovered Condi’s lies…
that introduction lead me to suspect Rove and Cheney
alas, Lieberman hid from my view longest

they’ve all melted together now

Alas it was the lies of Tony Blair that did me in. He said war was necessary, and the NYT and the WaPo agreed. I trusted all of them. Never again. I especially am bitter about Blair, I thought he was one of the good guys.

Changing moods/my specialty, may I say how thoroughly delighted I am to have Congress back in session, and it is OURS! Bwahahahahaha!!!

egregious @ 177

njr @ 168

Oklahoma kiddo @
159

I dislike the Secretary of State every bit as I much as I dislike Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman.

my timeline
I’ve disliked Bush longest
then discovered Condi’s lies…
that introduction lead me to suspect Rove and Cheney
alas, Lieberman hid from my view longest

they’ve all melted together now

Alas it was the lies of Tony Blair that did me in. He said war was necessary, and the NYT and the WaPo agreed. I trusted all of them. Never again. I especially am bitter about Blair, I thought he was one of the good guys.

Changing moods/my specialty, may I say how thoroughly delighted I am to have Congress back in session, and it is OURS! Bwahahahahaha!!!

OMG… please don’t get me started on Blair ;)

msnbc …house passes anti-terror legislation but lady was talking really fast so i didnt get it all

egregious @ 175

punaise—

I don’t know what you do in your daily life, maybe you don’t either :)

that’s a good one! I pretend to be gainfully self-employed, thus the utter lack of discipline staying off threads. (another New Years resolution bites the dust).

you’re too kind with your praise! most days I’m just here for a bit of comic relief among the serious stuff that others – like you – handle so well….

Olbermann soon. I’m hoping.

TeddySanFran @
106

omg, JokeLine must be stopped:

Liberals were “right” about Vietnam, but they have paid a price ever since because they were so obnoxious about their correctness. The leftier liberals proceeded to see Vietnam in every American military initiative–the placement of Pershing missiles in Europe, Star Wars, the removal of Noriega, the first Gulf War–and they suffered as a result. Just because they’re right about Iraq, and about this escalation, it doesn’t mean they won’t be blamed by the public if the result of an American withdrawal is lethal chaos in the region and $200 per barrel oil. All I’m saying is that those who oppose the war now have a responsibility to (a) oppose it judiciously, without hateful or extreme rhetoric and (b) start thinking very hard–and in a very detailed way–about how we begin to recover from this mess.–Joe Klein

The Seven Phases of a Plan

1.Wild enthusiasm
2.Disillusionment
3.Confusion
4.Panic
5.Search for the guilty
6.Punishment of the innocent
7.Promotion of non-participants

I might be in the minority on this but I’ll speak my mind and take a pummelling if need be.

I think the MSM newsiness folks are doing the job on escalation that they should’ve done in the runup to invasion. A few might be carrying water but many are asking tougher questions of the neocon claims.

I am being a good little egregious. I did go over to truthout to read Robert Parry on our tacit support of Isr**l’s plan to use NUCLEAR WEAPONS on Iran, with Bush’s approval. And yet I backed off and did not go further with analysis and posts and angst and urging people to speak up now before we go to a REAL war. Painful to stand down. I am still struggling with why that’s a good thing but hear your lovely and loving comments about why I must take care of ME.

Thank you all and especially Christy, TRex, RBG, cbl, Imm, and Nate for your very persuasive arguments. I am mulling them over.

[gaaa….want to work….fine. rest. Rest is BORING. WANT TO WORK.]

Re “words fail”

I took that to be a prayer for the SOTU, not a comment on RevDeb’s vocabulary.

And as for dear Graham, his performance in the the title role of the Life of Brian was stunning. Given the linguistic jokes and comments around here, the grafitti-based Latin lesson given to him by the centurion was classic.

Which only begs the contemporary question: what is the Latin for “Americans, Go Home!”?

My contempt for Bush,Cheney,Rove and Lieberman will be enduring, just as my contempt for Nixon, Agnew, Haldeman, Colson, et al. has lasted these many years since Watergate. On the other hand, it is my hope that Rahmbo will fall quickly from power and into obscurity, and that a decade or two from now I will no longer remember he existed, much less hold him in contempt. He is a flash in the pan (I hope).

egregious @ 184

I am being a good little egregious. I did go over to truthout to read Robert Parry on our tacit support of Isr**l’s plan to use NUCLEAR WEAPONS on Iran, with Bush’s approval. And yet I backed off and did not go further with analysis and posts and angst and urging people to speak up now before we go to a REAL war. Painful to stand down. I am still struggling with why that’s a good thing but hear your lovely and loving comments about why I must take care of ME.

Thank you all and especially Christy, TRex, RBG, cbl, Imm, and Nate for your very persuasive arguments. I am mulling them over.

[gaaa….want to work….fine. rest. Rest is BORING. WANT TO WORK.]

Yes, you do. I went through this. I had to finally let go. It was just eating me up.

punaise @ 180

egregious @ 175

punaise—

I don’t know what you do in your daily life, maybe you don’t either :)

that’s a good one! I pretend to be gainfully self-employed, thus the utter lack of discipline staying off threads. (another New Years resolution bites the dust).

you’re too kind with your praise! most days I’m just here for a bit of comic relief among the serious stuff that others – like you – handle so well….

Only comic relief?? No way. You are a totally integral part of the fdl fight against stupidity. We look to you to help us form ideas, words, views that illuminate our work.

You are getting better and better. If there is some boss we can speak to about your slacking off time away from work, please let us know and we will bombard him/her with letters about how essential you are to what we are doing. You say you are self-employed, shall we send these letters directly to you?

The generation of ideas is genius. That’s you.

Peterr @ 185

Re “words fail”

I took that to be a prayer for the SOTU, not a comment on RevDeb’s vocabulary.

And as for dear Graham, his performance in the the title role of the Life of Brian was stunning. Given the linguistic jokes and comments around here, the grafitti-based Latin lesson given to him by the centurion was classic.

Which only begs the contemporary question: what is the Latin for “Americans, Go Home!”?

Forget that, what is IRAQI for Americans go home.

punaise is punderful.

Only comic relief?? No way. You are a totally integral part of the fdl fight against stupidity. We look to you to help us form ideas, words, views that illuminate our work.

You are getting better and better. If there is some boss we can speak to about your slacking off time away from work, please let us know and we will bombard him/her with letters about how essential you are to what we are doing. You say you are self-employed, shall we send these letters directly to you?

The generation of ideas is genius. That’s you.

Plus, he’s real good with Zig maintenance.

*G*

((((((egregious)))))))

You say you are self-employed, shall we send these letters directly to you?

try sending them to my alter-ego 3sivund…. :~)

(back to work now….really)

aw, shucks, gang, you’re too much. isn’t it time for a new thread or sumpin’?

Did I ever mention that I hate GW Bush?

Bush lifts Alaska oil, gas drilling ban

and now for something completely different:

Must. Read. Marcy.

WASHINGTON – President Bush on Tuesday lifted the drilling ban for Alaska’s Bristol Bay, clearing the way for the Interior Department to open the fish-rich waters to oil and natural gas development.

Alaska officials as well as some local communities had asked for the ban to be lifted, but environmentalists and some fishermen have warned against drilling in the bay, which is the gateway for the largest wild salmon runs in the world as well as a major source for crab and cod.

“Bristol Bay is one the most important fisheries in America and in the world,” Sierra Club director Carl Pope said in a statement. “It’s incredibly reckless to risk such an outstanding natural resource just to satisfy Big Oil.”

Chimpy and Rove’s Maginot Line just gave in. 68 GOP-ers defect to the Democrats on the first vote.

So much for “all going down together”.

-GSD

and peterr.

Thanks for being there.

Especially last summer when you said I didn’t HAVE to know how I was going to make things work. That was where I got stuck in my logic.

How do we know these people we’re mowing down in Somalia are Al-Qaida? ‘Cause Bush tells us they are? And so f’ing what if they are!? What the damn hell are we doing in Africa anyway. Rhetorical question? I need get calmer.

Dear 3sivund—-

Our beloved punaise is essential to the national effort to reclaim our country. Please excuse him from work from time to time. Or at least help him not to feel so guilty when he is doing the work of the angels here.

Signed,

———-snoib3jb3

according to this other Python, we could have bought EVERYONE a pony-

Terry Jones

Oklahoma kiddo @ 199

How do we know these people we’re mowing down in Somalia are Al-Qaida? ‘Cause Bush tells us they are? And so f’ing what if they are!? What the damn hell are we doing in Africa anyway. Rhetorical question? I need get calmer.

They dont care. All that is necessary is to find some guys and kill them, and declare them the bad guys.

For most people they take this at face value gee our president is protecting us against the bad guys. Or at least is killing people of some kind. Preferably not white and not here.

For the rest of us, his casual willingness to kill is sufficiently frightening that we are afraid to opposed him.

Anthrax.

Need I say more?

egregious @ 200

Dear 3sivund—-

Our beloved punaise is essential to the national effort to reclaim our country. Please excuse him from work from time to time. Or at least help him not to feel so guilty when he is doing the work of the angels here.

Signed,

———-snoib3jb3

And give him a raise.

signed,
Not even gonna try

Shoot. Matthews just mentioned Hillary. And called her a moderate on the Iraq war. Moderate? She’s a hawk. A chicken sh’t hawk.

lurker @ 201

according to this other Python, we could have bought EVERYONE a pony-

Terry Jones

As the fdler currently here with the most ponies to distribute, I am happy to say that we do indeed have sufficient ponies to give one to everybody.

There now, keep the lines orderly.

GrandmaJ in front if you please. She lost 100 pounds so that she could ever ride again. [crowd quickly makes room for grJ]

dont know if this was posted yet or not: 68 Republicans break ranks, vote with Democrats on first bill of 110th Congress

Almost Olbermann time.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 199

How do we know these people we’re mowing down in Somalia are Al-Qaida?

They knew the secret handshake. Case closed.

Bustednuckles @ 203

egregious @ 200

Dear 3sivund—-

Our beloved punaise is essential to the national effort to reclaim our country. Please excuse him from work from time to time. Or at least help him not to feel so guilty when he is doing the work of the angels here.

Signed,

———-snoib3jb3

And give him a raise.

signed,
Not even gonna try

Here ya go.

s3l>l)nup3tsnq

punaise @ 153

Lynyrd Skynyrd

Well he was pulling the rug
with a smirk on his mug
and a dude named Uncle Lou

When in walked a man,
with subpeonas in hand
and he was lookin’ for you know who

He said ‘hey there fellow
with the back colored yellow’
what’cha trying to prove

That’s my freedom there
and I’m a man who cares
Guess this might be all for you

Junior sez…
Gimme three shots,
Just three shots mister
Gimme three shots at this war.

We gave you three shots,
but ya ain’t had three thoughts
Now it’s time you’re heading out the door.

Thanks Egregious!

John Dean will be on Olbermann

Keith is loaded for bear tonight.
lotsa good stuff.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 199

How do we know these people we’re mowing down in Somalia are Al-Qaida?

If they weigh the same as a duck, that means they float, and if they float . . .

egregious @ 198

and peterr.

Thanks for being there.

My pleasure.

Peterr @ 214

Oklahoma kiddo @ 199
‘How do we know these people we’re mowing down in Somalia are Al-Qaida?’

If they weigh the same as a duck, that means they float, and if they float . . .

They’re made of pressed foam?

egregious @
212

John Dean will be on Olbermann

thank you

Oklahoma kiddo @ 199

How do we know these people we’re mowing down in Somalia are Al-Qaida? ‘Cause Bush tells us they are? And so f’ing what if they are!? What the damn hell are we doing in Africa anyway. Rhetorical question? I need get calmer.

Welcome to my not so calm world.

Canaries/mine

Olbermann just cited a USA today poll with Jrs new ratings at 26%. heh heh

Hey, all — anti-Reid reciter of RNC talking points John Solomon is doing his first political chat on WaPo tomorrow. Get your questions in now here!

Eureka Springs, AR @ 219

Olbermann just cited a USA today poll with Jrs new ratings at 26%. heh heh

Remember peeps I’m in for 23.

egregious @ 221

Eureka Springs, AR @ 219

Olbermann just cited a USA today poll with Jrs new ratings at 26%. heh heh

Remember peeps I’m in for 23.

Oh I didn’t know. Is this for a saddle? I’m in for 17.

egregious @ 221

Eureka Springs, AR @ 219

Olbermann just cited a USA today poll with Jrs new ratings at 26%. heh heh

Remember peeps I’m in for 23.

Umm, that poll number was not for overall approval, but for his handling of the war in Iraq.

He’s still hovering around 30% overall. But, if we all just clap, and say, “Let Bush be Bush,” over and over again, you may get your wish. :) He can do it… I know he can. :)

Eureka Springs, AR @ 219

Olbermann just cited a USA today poll with Jrs new ratings at 26%. heh heh

Good googly-moogly! That’s Nixon-on-the-helicopter territory! And we haven’t even started the investigations yet. Nixon lost about 30-35 points during the Watergate hearings. So, given those metrics, that would put W at about minus 4 by the summer. Heckuva job.

I join in the call on 3sivund to let punaise continue being punaise at FDL. I’ll even say that standing on my head if it will help.

sniydoju3u

Eureka Springs, AR @ 222

egregious @ 221

Eureka Springs, AR @ 219

Olbermann just cited a USA today poll with Jrs new ratings at 26%. heh heh

Remember peeps I’m in for 23.

Oh I didn’t know. Is this for a saddle? I’m in for 17.

S’at’ll be the right answer.

http://www.wavelit.com/index.a…..sh=africam

o/t

egregious -

restless and bored ? maybe you need a quick walkabout in the South African bush – critter there now – lower right end of water hole

neurophius @ 225

I join in the call on 3sivund to let punaise continue being punaise at FDL. I’ll even say that standing on my head if it will help.

sniydoju3u

outstanding use of y.
do you mean jn3u?

You are correct, egregious. Thanks.

An egregious error on my part.

sniypojn3u

I seem to recall we had some sort of bet as to when W would first get JARs in the twenties. Anybody else remember that?

neurophius @ 229

You are correct, egregious. Thanks.

An egregious error on my part.

sniypojn3u

707!!

cleter @ 230

I seem to recall we had some sort of bet as to when W would first get JARs in the twenties. Anybody else remember that?

To be fair, it does have to be the overall rating. If we go with how he’s handling the war, do we accept negative integers? Imaginary numbers for his imaginary ‘victory’?

It is my hope that rather than giving Bush a bump in the polls as presidential speeches often do, this one will give him a bump on the head (metaphorical, of course), driving him to a new low in the 20s.

In case anybody missed it the first time:

JOHN DEAN is coming up on Keith.

egregious – Perhaps we could award one of these instead of a saddle…)

Someone could clean up if they would market that product.

Eureka Springs, AR @ 235

egregious – Perhaps we could award one of these instead of a saddle…)

Someone could clean up if they would market that product.

No can do. The Secret Service is, with justification, entirely lacking a sense of humor. I feel sorry for those guys.

Permission to do an average liveblog of John Dean instead of my usual? In keeping with the yay less stress.

Or maybe twolf is here and I’m off the hook.

As you wish.

Yes, please live blog John Dean’s appearance on Obermann.

neurophius @ 238

As you wish.

Inconceivable!!

Oklahoma kiddo @
204

Shoot. Matthews just mentioned Hillary. And called her a moderate on the Iraq war. Moderate? She’s a hawk. A chicken sh’t hawk.

Matthews always mentions Hillary. It’s a pathetic obsession. He’s her cyber-stalker.

punaise = pundelicious

Fielding to replace Harriet Myers. John Dean was his boss.

DEAN ON NOW.

Lot of pressure on Fred to take this job.

They think there is a problem.

Is he representing Bush? not neces the right guy. Repres the presidency?

what shd be turned over and wt not

UI most likely deep throat

dean–i won $100 on that, and lost to brokaw

fred wasnt tainted by watergate, he learned what NOT to do

we do have an admin worse than watergate, and he will be tested

“I do believe we have an administration worse than watergate, and he (Fielding) is going to be tested in this post.” j.dean

KO:? fielding most time doing process/subpeonas?

John Dean:if repres presidency as opposed to bush philos of turning over nothing, process

primarily process, lot of time negotiating

UI most likely deep throat

??? anyone

KO:?visitor logs at WH Abramhf, manuf evidence in its favor

John Dean:i hope not. bad taint to the way they presented this in court. most presidential records part of the collections. timing reeks. most prior pres own records and they to w presidential papers. hope fielding smarter than that.

tested?

absolutely. wish him well. able, savvy. not sure how he’s gonna come out on this.

thats all

“he’s been sipping some of the kool-aid lately, so I don’t know…” j.dean on Fielding

cbl @ 248

UI most likely deep throat

??? anyone

The Unknown Islamic?

cbl @ 248

UI most likely deep throat

??? anyone

sorry a bit cryptic trying to liveblog under the less stress is good for egregious philosophy.

john dean said people thot fred fielding was deep throat.

Will this be a moral challenge for him?

Yes. “Fielding able lawyer but has also been sipping some of the Kool Aid lately.”

Don’t know how it will turn out.

I think Keith said someone at the University of Illinois thought Fielding was Deep Throat. Dean said he won $100 on a bet regarding that question but also lost $100 to Brokaw on whether Deep Throat was Mark Felt.

montag @ 251

cbl @ 248

UI most likely deep throat

??? anyone

The Unknown Islamic?

University of Illinois.
And darned if i know how that fit the original comment…. :)

montag @ 251

cbl @ 248

UI most likely deep throat

??? anyone

The Unknown Islamic?

I think it refers to the fact that he was teaching at the U of Illinois at the time of the bets. I think.

Bob Woodward (and Mark Felt) said, of course, that Felt was DT.

egregious @ 255

montag @ 251

cbl @ 248

UI most likely deep throat

??? anyone

The Unknown Islamic?

University of Illinois.
And darned if i know how that fit the original comment…. :)

It didn’t exactly, except that Islamics are to blame for everything, these days, yes?

Thanks, egregious.

My impression was that Dean thinks well of Fielding generally, but views it as a challenging assignment.

egregious @ 243

Lot of pressure on Fred to take this job.

They [admin] think there is a problem.

these are comments from john dean.

did i do good?

egregious @ 262

did i do good?

excellent.

the prince might be getting engaged. news of the war pushed off the front page for days…

Does egregious do good? Of course she does.

From today’s WH press briefing (Note how Snow moves from the question answerer to the asker and what does he get paid for again?)

MR. SNOW: . . . As far as public opinion, the President will not shape policy according to public opinion, but he does understand that it’s important to bring the public back to this war and restore public confidence and support for the mission.

Q But the public doesn’t want to go back to the war. They want to go away, they —

MR. SNOW: No, April, you —

Q — the midterm elections, did people — did they or did they not vote for leaders who basically said they wanted to —

MR. SNOW: April, let me ask you a simple question: Do opinions change?

Q Yes, they do.

MR. SNOW: Do they change on the basis of arguments?

Q They change on the basis of results.

Ouch!

neurophius @ 265

Does egregious do good? Of course she does.

sweet man.

er man?

Worst Person in the World:

Worse Steve Jobs

Worser a private security guard

Worst Tonyu Snowjob

Egregious – I am here (elbowing in), but my brain is too tired to find words. Tried all day to register at the YearlyKos convention.

Note: I AM NOT COMPUTER LITERATE!!!!!

Thought I had registered but had to leave before I paid. could not get back in. Spent all evening emailing with Steve who is running the registration and he is trying to help. He said “no worry”, we will find a place for you at the convention. :) Ahhhhh, friends are good. Besides I won’t need as much space as before.

And adding to my dilemma, my printer no longers works. Who knows what is wrong.

Anyway, egregious I hope to post on your blog in the next day or two, if my brain can repair itself from mental fatigue.

er, Tony Snowjob

yeay egregious ! ya done good gal!

Hiring Fielding makes sense. The thing that baffles is why wasn’t Rove let go after last Nov. elections.

neurophius @ 270

er, Tony Snowjob

Thought that should have been an “a,” as in “Tonya Snowjob,” since he does to the truth what Tonya Harding had done to Nancy Kerrigan….

montag @ 273

neurophius @ 270

er, Tony Snowjob

Thought that should have been an “a,” as in “Tonya Snowjob,” since he does to the truth what Tonya Harding had done to Nancy Kerrigan….

touch.

Hugh @ 266

From today’s WH press briefing (Note how Snow moves from the question answerer to the asker and what does he get paid for again?)

MR. SNOW: . . . As far as public opinion, the President will not shape policy according to public opinion, but he does understand that it’s important to bring the public back to this war and restore public confidence and support for the mission.

Q But the public doesn’t want to go back to the war. They want to go away, they —

MR. SNOW: No, April, you —

Q — the midterm elections, did people — did they or did they not vote for leaders who basically said they wanted to —

MR. SNOW: April, let me ask you a simple question: Do opinions change?

Q Yes, they do.

MR. SNOW: Do they change on the basis of arguments?

Q They change on the basis of results.

Ouch!

Briefer Down! We got a Briefer down!

…that might leave a scar.

I don’t think Tony Snow will be able to skate away from the lies he has told for this administration.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 272

Hiring Fielding makes sense. The thing that baffles is why wasn’t Rove let go after last Nov. elections.

Still Bush’s brain. He may be stupid now, but without Rove, people would start calling him Terry Schiavo….

cbl @ 271

yeay egregious ! ya done good gal!

:) wiping forehead with handerchief

GrandmaJ

No hurry! And remember you dont need to register. Just check off the “other” button or the “anonymous” button. Hope you do the other button and give yr fdl name so I know its you.

So its official now, straight from Tony “Mouth of Sauron” Snow. b43’s new war strategy is to improve the public opinion of it through the use of war propaganda. Cool.

Hugh @ 266

MR. SNOW: . . . As far as public opinion, the President will not shape policy according to public opinion, but he does understand that it’s important to bring the public back to this war and restore public confidence and support for the mission.
Ouch!

egregious @ 278

cbl @ 271

yeay egregious ! ya done good gal!

:) wiping forehead with handerchief

…tosses egregious a cold bottle of water and a towel

:-) nice work

montag @ 277

Oklahoma kiddo @ 272

Hiring Fielding makes sense. The thing that baffles is why wasn’t Rove let go after last Nov. elections.

Still Bush’s brain. He may be stupid now, but without Rove, people would start calling him Terry Schiavo….

ok THAT’S funny

[waiting to be struck by lightning for finding humor in a coma situation]

neurophius @
276

I don’t think Tony Snow will be able to skate away from the lies he has told for this administration.

He will have a radio show that airs between Rush and Hannity.

twolf i was waiting for YOU to liveblog john dean. lazy/late

Blub @ 279

So its official now, straight from Tony “Mouth of Sauron” Snow. b43’s new war strategy is to improve the public opinion of it through the use of war propaganda. Cool.

Hugh @ 266

MR. SNOW: . . . As far as public opinion, the President will not shape policy according to public opinion, but he does understand that it’s important to bring the public back to this war and restore public confidence and support for the mission.
Ouch!

I think this just reaffirms the speculation that 43 and his enablers live a reality not of ours and also that we’ll have a hard time getting 43 to leave the WH at any time.

Didn’t snowballs stand in for limpbogs while he was in rehab?

egregious @ 283

twolf i was waiting for YOU to liveblog john dean. lazy/late

I missed most of it – was lots of vacuuming going on here. I could see it but not hear it.

Scarborough leading with O’Reilly War on NBC

Oh, not yet I guess

nicely done egregious, thanks for the keystrokes. And info.

About T.Snow’s interrogator…just WHO is this intrepid ‘April’ reporter?

a hug a kiss flowers …

Just more, por favor!

neurophius @ 287

Scarborough leading with O’Reilly War on NBC

apparently O’rly was looking at NBC reporters’ body language to ’sniff out liberal bias’

new thread

BTW, is there a Congressional authorization I’m not aware of or did shrub just manage to involve us in yet another war — this one in the Horn of Africa — without any congressional approval whatsoever?

twolf1 @ 286

egregious @ 283

twolf i was waiting for YOU to liveblog john dean. lazy/late

I missed most of it – was lots of vacuuming going on here. I could see it but not hear it.

v appropriate. Bush is working in a vacuum.

egregious @
184

I am being a good little egregious. I did go over to truthout to read Robert Parry on our tacit support of Isr**l’s plan to use NUCLEAR WEAPONS on Iran, with Bush’s approval. And yet I backed off and did not go further with analysis and posts and angst and urging people to speak up now before we go to a REAL war. Painful to stand down. I am still struggling with why that’s a good thing but hear your lovely and loving comments about why I must take care of ME.

Thank you all and especially Christy, TRex, RBG, cbl, Imm, and Nate for your very persuasive arguments. I am mulling them over.

[gaaa….want to work….fine. rest. Rest is BORING. WANT TO WORK.]

Rx for Egregious: play 1 Gymnopedie daily.

Blub @ 292

BTW, is there a Congressional authorization I’m not aware of or did shrub just manage to involve us in yet another war — this one in the Horn of Africa — without any congressional approval whatsoever?

By the standards of the last 40 years this doesnt qualify as a war.

Just because we are sending in bomber planes and killing random people, does that really mean it’s a war?

[…crickets…the judgment of history…GOD SAVE US]

Pat B is just being a dickhead on Scarborough trying to rationalize the pres acting against the voters wishes.

rumi @ 296

Pat B is just being a dickhead on Scarborough trying to rationalize the pres acting against the voters wishes.

He’s just being who and what he is.

The good news is that those who arguing in favor of escalation are making complete fools of themselves. Their arguments lack any cohesive reason.

Be ready to get the blame for the neocon failures.

Pat Buchanan: disaster is coming to Iraq for sure and soon.

I’m hearing a change in him too. Something happened.

RevDeb @ 297

rumi @ 296

Pat B is just being a dickhead on Scarborough trying to rationalize the pres acting against the voters wishes.

He’s just being who and what he is.

Pat’s attitude seems to have changed over the past day or two. Something else has happened behind the scenes to cause him to act out like this. I think the cranky little camper needs a timeout.

rumi @ 298

The good news is that those who arguing in favor of escalation are making complete fools of themselves. Their arguments lack any cohesive reason.

Be ready to get the blame for the neocon failures.

I feel confident that the mothers of the children killed in Iraq in the next few months will be very forgiving. Or not so much.

Blank Kludge @ 289

nicely done egregious, thanks for the keystrokes. And info.

About T.Snow’s interrogator…just WHO is this intrepid ‘April’ reporter?

a hug a kiss flowers …

Just more, por favor!

I think it was April Ryan of American Urban Radio Networks.

Froomkin’s list of WH correspondents:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..dents.html

O’rielly story up on Doucheborough

twolf1 @ 303

O’rielly story up on Doucheborough

Scarborough is evolving very fast. I find him a fascinating example of someone who gets it and is changing toward reality.

Someone whose press pass is in danger, I’m sure.

Blank Kludge @ 289

nicely done egregious, thanks for the keystrokes. And info.

About T.Snow’s interrogator…just WHO is this intrepid ‘April’ reporter?

Pat Buc. seems to be saying on Scarborough that he supports the prez putting more troops into Iraq, but he (Pat Buc) doesn’t think it will work. Sound reasoning Pat. Put in additional soldiers; it won’t work, but do it anyway.

egregious @ 304

twolf1 @ 303

O’rielly story up on Doucheborough

Scarborough is evolving very fast. I find him a fascinating example of someone who gets it and is changing toward reality.

is it b/c his job depends on ratings? as the country sways, joey sways.

Hugh @
302

I think it was April Ryan of American Urban Radio Networks.

April showers Tony with questions, Snow dissolves in a blubbery puddle.

punaise @ 308

Hugh @
302

I think it was April Ryan of American Urban Radio Networks.

April showers Tony with questions, Snow dissolves in a blubbery puddle.

april showers bring tony’s cowers

MR. MERICA
Morning.

DUBYA
Morning.

MR. MERICA
What have you got, then?

DUBYA
Well there’s egg and bacon; egg, sausage and bacon; egg and fear; egg, bacon and fear; egg, bacon, sausage and fear; fear, bacon, sausage and fear; fear, egg, fear, fear, bacon and fear; fear, fear, fear, egg and fear; fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, baked beans, fear, fear, fear and fear; or lobster thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce garnished with truffle p�t�, brandy and a fried egg on top and fear.

MRS. MERICA
Have you got anything without fear in it?

DUBYA
Well there’s fear, egg, sausage and fear. That’s not got much fear in it.

MRS. MERICA
I don’t want any fear.

This guy John Fund on Scarborough, who I’ve seen several times before, is really a distasteful fellow.

2-1 ganging up on John Fund. I love it. Why does he bother with such sycophants?

egregious @ 304

twolf1 @ 303

O’rielly story up on Doucheborough

Scarborough is evolving very fast. I find him a fascinating example of someone who gets it and is changing toward reality.

He still has a ways to go but he is coming along. He was hurt when the guest accused him of Liberal bias.

JS started showing hints of being more realistic about 43 sometime during Katrina.

I still get the feeling that something is being brokered in the backrooms…like allowing the Dems to take the blame for ANY negative consequence that comes out of Iraq.

The anti-escalation folks on those shows should bring up the massive bombings of Fallujah and Mosul…blatant violations of the GC that happened while dealing with “suspected” insurgents….or, the tragedies in Haditha where infants and grandparents were shot to pieces when stressed and threatened troops opened fire on them as “suspected” insurgents…That’s a taste of life in Baghdad under an escalation.

Donald Trump. Good God I dislike this individual.

egregious @ 301
I feel confident that the mothers of the children killed in Iraq in the next few months will be very forgiving. Or not so much.

I’ll vote the ‘…not so much’ This is just terribly tragic for so many innocent people.

Blub @ 305

Someone whose press pass is in danger, I’m sure.

Blank Kludge @ 289

nicely done egregious, thanks for the keystrokes. And info.

About T.Snow’s interrogator…just WHO is this intrepid ‘April’ reporter?

(whose press pass is in danger) like the Irish reporter who dared to ask Bush follow-up questions when he was being evasive in an interview…

I messed up that quote. The last statement was mine.

Re U of Illinois and the Fred Fielding stuff:

There was a class at the University of Illinois that studied Watergate and Deep Throat as a class project (a journalism course, IIRC), trying to nail down his identity. They fingered Fielding as the most likely suspect. Dean had a bet with the prof, which he won, but then he lost a similar bet to Tom Brokaw, who was backing Felt.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 314

Donald Trump. Good God I dislike this individual.

Ya do realize that he’s a registered dem don’t you?

Blub @ 319

Oklahoma kiddo @ 314

Donald Trump. Good God I dislike this individual.

Ya do realize that he’s a registered dem don’t you?

No, I didn’t realize that. But I don’t like Hillary either, for different reasons of course. Or for that matter, I don’t care for Biden, and several other members of my party, the Democrat Party. Thanks for the Trump info. ;)

TeddySanFran @ 42

Oklahoma kiddo @ 26

As I used to live in SF and voted for DiFi for Mayor, etc., I am curious to know the Senator’s current stand on Iraq and the possible invasion of Iran. Anybody?

Our CA-Roots group met with a member of Feinstein’s SF office staff last April. She had just written her LAT op-ed calling for no nukes in Iran. We asked that she oppose any Iran War. We were told there was a very low probability of a War on Iran, but that the Senator did not think the President’s AUMF included Iran. We felt a little condescended to about our concern that a War on Iran was in the plans.

Our contacts with her SF office have diminished (in my case, to the level of no responses at all) although members of our group are still in sporadic contact with Senator Boxer’s office staffers (who were much nicer and much more receptive to our ideas, views, and visit).

I have just emailed Senators Feinstein and Boxer, asking that they vocally support Senator Kennedy’s legislation. If there is a response, I will be happy to pass it along.

Dear Senator:

I just watched Senator Kennedy’s speech about the Iraq War, and I support his call to cap the number of US troops and to begin to bring our troops home now.

Please be vocal in your support of Senator Kennedy’s proposal — Californians really need to hear from our Senators. We expect you to lead on this issue.

Thank you for your service to California and to the United States of America.

Sincerely yours,

Constituents may email Boxer and Feinstein.

(Sorry to be OfT, TRex….)

Thanks TeddySanFran. (#42 You made it so easy for me to write both Boxer and Feinstein. I was deeply moved by Ted Kennedy, and your links were right there for me. Gracias.

(Have no idea how to write comments here, so hope this goes through – I am such a lurker aka wallflower)