I may be physically back from Winter Solstice Break, but I'm not quite mentally back, so today I'm going to ramble -- kind of a stream of consciousness spew about what's happening in labor at the dawn of 2007.
Here goes:
First, let's look back at last year. Not a bad year, labor-wise. Unions were instrumental in an amazing election win that will soon give birth to minimum wage bills passing the House, and likely the Senate (even if George Will thinks the minimum wage should be zero). The House is also planning to give Transportation Security Administration (TSA) workers rights that were taken away by a Bush administration that sees unions as akin to terrorists. Meanwhile, SEIU scored two major organizing wins for janitors at the University of Miami and in Houston. It was also an interesting year in workplace safety, as I explain on my home blog.
And shortly before Christmas, By a 2-1 vote, Goodyear employees ratified a new contract after an 86 day strike against the tire company. Not a total victory, but a victory non-the-less:
The U.S. contract establishes a company-financed trust fund of more than $1 billion that will secure medical and prescription drug benefits for current and future retirees, the union said. Future contributions will include cost-of-living payments and profit-sharing funds.
The new contract also requires Goodyear to drop its demand for immediate closure of its tire-manufacturing plant in Tyler, Texas. The contract provides one-year period of transition during which workers at Tyler will have the opportunity “to take advantage of sizeable retirement buyouts,” the union said.
“It took a strike, but we achieved a fair and equitable contract that protects quality health care for active and retired members,” USW Executive Vice President Ron Hoover said
Looking forward to the first 100 hours in Congress, the Christian Science Monitor describes what a raise in the minimum wage means to low income families:
Oklahoma doesn't have high living costs, compared with some other states. But to cover the basic needs of a family of four here typically requires an income of more than $33,000, according to an online budget calculator created by the liberal Economic Policy Institute in Washington.
At $5.15 an hour, it would take three full-time jobs for a family to earn that much.
Many minimum-wage workers, it's true, don't have children. Often they are young people on their first job.
But the Hosier family is not unusual. Of the workers who stand to reap higher pay if Congress raises the wage floor, the vast majority are adults, most work full-time, and about 1 in 4 have dependent children, according to the Economic Policy Institute.
Moreover, they are often the sole breadwinner in the household. Of families with children, nearly half of those who would be affected by a minimum-wage hike get all their earned income from one low-wage worker.
Meanwhile, the fruits of the Democratic Chickens who refused to filibuster Bush's Supreme Court nominees may be coming home to roost asthe Supreme Court agrees to consider the constitutionality of a Washington state law that made it harder for unions to spend mandatory fees collected from nonmembers on political campaigns. The law has been overturned by the Washington State supreme court. But...
The union victory could be short-lived. Wednesday, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear Evergreen Freedom's challenge to the Washington state decision. The foundation hopes the court, its conservative wing bolstered by the Bush appointments of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, will bar unions from spending any fees from nonmembers on political campaigns.
An array of antiunion groups -- the Institute for Justice, the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation and the Pacific Legal Foundation among them -- have filed briefs at the high court, hoping to strike a blow against labor's power. The Bush administration and six states with laws unfriendly to unions likewise are urging the justices to reverse the Washington state decision.
And looking ahead to 2008 (that would be the next Presidential election year, in case anyone has forgotten) candidates will, of course, be courting the labor vote (especially considering the vital role labor played in the 2006 election). Hillary and Obama may be on the tip every pundit's tongue, but it's John Edwards who's focused like a laser beam on winning labor support, according to CQ Politics:
Edwards threw his weight behind efforts to increase minimum wage levels in Ohio, Arizona and Michigan. In April, he marched a picket line with Teamsters Union President James Hoffa and service workers at the University of Miami. Last year, Edwards spoke at the national conventions for three major unions: the AFL-CIO, the Change to Win Coalition and the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
It was at the latter that Edwards proclaimed the labor movement “the greatest anti-poverty program in the United States.” “I believe in a Democratic Party of big ideas . . . a Democratic Party that’s not afraid of saying the word ‘union,’” he told more than 7,000 attendees at the Teamsters’ June convention in Las Vegas, according to release from the union.
According to former Clinton speechwriter David Kusnet, Edwards is "making economic populism and the value of unions part of his general message to all audiences," supporting strikes and walking picket lines. Plus, the addition of Nevada as an early primary state will help Edwards because SEIU and UNITE HERE are two unions with strong organizations in Nevada.
And it's clear that the labor movement needs someone who "gets it."
A decline in union membership may be due to a sharp rise in firing of pro-union activists during union organizing campaigns, according to a study released Thursday.
The study, by the Center for Economic and Policy Research, a nonprofit think tank, analyzed published data from the National Labor Relations Board.
"Starting at the end of the 1970s, but especially by the early 1980s, American employers began to engage in the systematic and widespread use of illegal firings as a strategy to undermine the success of campaigns for union representation," the study's authors, John Schmitt and Ben Zipperer.
The authors say their paper "provides significant support" that "aggressive, even illegal, employer behavior has undermined the ability of U.S. workers to create unions at their work places.
The NLRB data used in the study comes from the agency's work reinstating workers who it finds have been illegally fired for being involved in union organizing campaigns. If the NLRB finds a worker has been illegally fired, that worker must be reinstated. The study used data on the number of NLRB-ordered reinstatements each year to calculate the probability a worker involved in union-organizing would be fired.
Using those calculations, as well as previous studies using the same series of NLRB data, the authors wrote that the probability of a pro-union worker being fired during an organizing campaign increased from .5 percent in 1970 to 1974 to 1 percent from 1996 to 2000, then rose to 1.4 percent in 2001 to 2005.
The answer to this problem, as Tula and I have written before (like here and here) is the Employee Free Choice Act, which would give workers the right to be represented by a union by simply signing cards instead of the traditional "secret ballot" elections that employers have become so good at delaying and exploiting. Although EFCA seems to have enough support in the House of Representatives to pass, getting 60 votes to overcome an expected filibuster in the Senate may prove to be a tougher hurdle. Whether it passes in the next two years or post-2008, it's clear that the American people need to be strongly sold on its merits.
Right now polls indicate that solid majorities support unions and oppose harassment of workers who want to join unions. People are generally supportive of the concept of card check, but they're not so sure about trashing so-called "secret ballot" elections. Secret ballot elections sound fair (in a quaint, bygone pre-hanging-chad kind of way). But much better argument for EFCA is based on "free and fair elections." Change to Win, writing in Daily Kos, describes just how unfree and unfair the current "secret ballot" NLRB elections are.
Imagine elections in some far-off foreign land:
In this country, citizens vote periodically via secret ballot for which party will lead them. However, in this country, one party has a few... advantages:
- It can require citizens to attend propaganda sessions demonizing all opponents, at pain of losing their jobs if they failed to attend;
- It can legally threaten citizens with shutting down the company that employs them if they vote for the opposition;
- It is, by law, the only party that can place literature in citizens' mailboxes, or on their doorstep -- all others are prohibited;
- It owns the property where the polls are located, and can tell individual citizens exactly when they should be at the polls to cast their vote, making it easy to associate "secret" ballots with the citizens who cast them;
- It retains the right, if it loses the election, to appeal the results through five separate levels of bureaucracy, with no requirement that the appeals be resolved in a timely fashion, and with the government being run by them during the appeals process.
In a union election, management is that party
OK, enough for now. You get the idea.
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Um.. OT, but interesting nonetheless.. Canadian press is leading with the following story about the “US offensive” (their words) now underway in Somalia. Apparently, we blew up a bunch of Canadian nationals (presumably but not necessarily by accident):
http://www.canada.com/topics/n.....mp;k=87889
Did shrub have ANY Congressional authorization for this “offensive” whatsoever?
Some good news for what Jordan is talking about. Barney Frank, chairing Financial Services (I think) in the House is a strong supporter of the Employee Free Choice Act. it is on his agenda.
And referring to the courts hearing the cases that trickle up, at least at this point the worst of the worst nominees are pulling their names off the list of judicial nominees. Pat Lahey is our new watch dog.
The big question for me is what will it take to break the MallWart unfair labor practices? They only grow larger by the day and are hurting America in ways we will never be able to completely list.
Scarborough has stopped blindly following. Will be interesting to watch.
His new message (said by him in as many words): “I’m a conservative! I’m a conservative! I’m a conservative! Pat’s obsolete. Shrub’s insane. The Republicans are clueless. I’m a conservative!”
egregious @ 7
RevDeb @ 6
Barney Frank is chairing Ways and Means, but, yeah, broadly, that’s finances.
WalMart, dunno. Would like to see the states put some pressure on them on the wage end. The other way to give them heartburn would be to start some hard lobbying efforts at the state level to undo so-called “right to work” laws, or at least those provisions which enable WalMart to do union-busting on the job….
montag @ 8
Financial Services already has the web site up and running. Barney is no slacker and will be a great advocate for labor.
Charlie Rangel is Ways and Means. Also very good.
RevDeb @ 10
Oops! My mistake. It’s Rangel taking over Ways and Means.
One of the koolaid drinkers just challenged Scarborough about his neutrality. Sc is pushing back pretty hard and noting that only 12% of Americans support the ’surge’ proposal.
I think he’s getting the picture. Let’s be ready to welcome him with open arms. Demonizing him for some random comment is not helpful at this point. We’ve found the fish out there, now reel him in carefully.
“Secret ballot” sounds like management’s frame for their current, escalating system of intimidating pro-union employees.
Jordan, it’s always a treat when you post here at the ‘lake; thanks for this roundup and lookahead. Me, I’m excited about the minimum wage in 2007, although I’m a little peeved that Senator Kennedy’s oratorical skills were instead employed on Iraq today. Such an amazing speaker, so eloquent; but I wish circumstances had allowed him to focus on the minimum wage, families, and health care.
…oh, and:
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There it is folks, in today’s Washington Post: George Will’s eternal unseen-hand job.
All the time, energy, and money that labor put into this election cycle hopefully will finally pay off. Saw lots of SEIU folk working hard for Ned and the congressional races in CT. They get it.
TeddySanFran @ 12
Teddy,
not to worry. Those issues are where his heart is and he will get back to them quickly. This was just the dems preemptive strike against W’s insanity that will be unleashed tomorrow night. Teddy is always a safe and powerful voice to enlist for this kind of task.
But you already knew all of that.
Somebody tell George Will I saved his life today: I killed a shit-eating dog! (Just kidding … I would never kill a dog, shit-eating or otherwise.)
Matewan is a terrific movie, if you have never seen it, go rent it.
egregious @ 12
My arms are always open to new adherents to our truth, but Joe’s conversion seems driven by his need to keep us, the Olbermann audience. I’d rather watch my local news — Arnie on crutches! — or even Larry King, than Scarborough’s shoutfest. Especially with the creepy thing he and Buchanan have going.
but, hi! egr — days getting longer & brighter here! yours?
Will should stop trying to write about economics, using fancy words, he clearly doesn’t understand like “labor” and “commodity”. http://www.epi.org/minwage/epi.....e_2006.pdf (petition signed by the country’s leading economists calling urgently for a minimum wage increase)
Aside from the obvious welfare benefits and among other things, the minimum wage facilitates productivity growth, technological innovation and workforce-upgrading.. all those nice things fiscal conservatives are supposed to be about. Does Will thik the US economy is about sweatshops?
Wigwam @ 14
Wigwam @ 14
Y’know, it’s easy to spot the people who never raised a callus in the pursuit of a living….
Good post Jordan.
I’m an old-school free enterprise business guy who went from big multi-national business to owning a little distribution business in my town. In my last big-business gig I worked in Sweden for over a year. I saw that almost everyone belonged to a union and that, to some extent, the unions protected most employees from the sudden train-wreck disaster that a mass layoff can bring. Business was still allowed to consolidate or downsize, but it was done in a more compassionate way, in a way that provided tangible benefits for the employees and helped them retrain or find a job outside their usual industry. When my industry crashed I got two weeks pay and a shove out the door. My friends in Sweden got a couple years of support to help them find their way.
Further, I got to see that “protectionism” isn’t an evil concept, but rather a way to protect the domestic industries.
I think that we ought to create a panel or group that suggests a “fair” pricing schedule for imported goods, a pricing schedule that would be used to establish a tariff on the imports, helping bring the price to somewhere near what it would cost for the product to be built in Indiana or somewhere else in the U.S.
Also I think a tax credit of sizable value should be offered to companies that built or start or rebuild a factory or plant that brings manufacturing back onshore.
So the price at the retailer goes up. So what? I think we’ll all get over it. Maybe less goods are purchased as a volume measurement, but overall retail revenue should be pretty much unchanged.
But we need good-paying jobs in this country and we need to have our corporations stop investing in whatever country offers the cheapest labor this year. I don’t like the idea of protectionism, but I don’t see another way to start to rebuild the non-service job market in America.
(I know there are a ton of problems with these ideas but I think we need to start taking a stab at helping re-establish a manufacturing job base in this country. We think it’s good to spend trillions on military protection for our citizens, yet let them sink further in debt and poverty every year, shrugging our shoulders and telling them to go get a job in the service industry. Stupid way to run a country if you ask me.)
Will’s ideal economy is about servitude, peasantry, and the upper class. The ownership society: have you been assigned an owner yet?
If Congress raises the minimum wage, does that mean every states’ employers are then tied to that number as the minimum wage?
TeddySanFran @ 22
Capitalism, unrestrained, is simply feudalism with a PhD in economics.
Thank you Jordan.
Ted Kennedy will be a very important voice and leader, imho. He is the chair now of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee and his speech today was electrifying! Though he talked primarily about the failed stratergery on Iraq, he also touched on medicare and healthcare, minimum wage and I could sense his passion and commitment. :>)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 23
Not necessarily. In those few states where the minimum wage is higher by statute, the higher rate prevails. But, for all those states which have no minimum wage law, federal law takes precedence.
Edwards certainly is hitting the labor, poverty, and class issues - which few other voices in or out of DC are doing with any regularity or force. I’m not saying he’s the top of my list - haven’t gotten even close to that choice yet - but I’m glad he’s raising these issues.
OfT: Who’s blocking the 100 Hours Plan to implement the 9/11 Commission recommendations? RGJoe!
Excerpt:
Signing statement, anyone?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 22
There are a number of states that have minimums that are higher than what Congress is proposing. The feds will bring the floor up to one level, but the states that have a higher floor will keep the higher floor.
Peterr @ 27
Are there candidates other than Edwards who’ve rued their Iraq War vote, and publicly apologized?
TeddySanFran @ 18
Brighter but SO not there yet. And the damage to the groan/scale and to my morale of the last 6 weeks of darkness…just trust that God knows what the **** He is doing.
But Scarborough is -arguing- more and more with Buchanan. I am very encouraged. Watch the news that works for you, but as a sociologist I am tres interested in what’s happening on his show.
TeddySanFran @ 29
Kerry has. Not that it is really going to do much good for him.
The amount of brainwashing that the average low-information voter has undergone is absolutely stunning to me.
I was at my desk today when the guy in the next cube started talking to someone else about Iraq, the Dems, etc. Keep in mind these guys will be lucky to break 6 figures between the 2 of them, and yet, they were convinced that their taxes were going up. And that they didn’t like Nancy Pelosi.
One guy said that he needs to save up because they next few years will be rough. It was all I could do not to scream at them “are you out of your fucking minds? I’m less than 30 days away from a foreclosure and you are telling me it is going to get worse? How fucking stupid are you?”
They guy next to me just had his salary DECREASED by $500 a month. He’s a salesman so he has the chance (in theory) to make it up. The kool-aid is strong and deprogramming is gonna take a while…
Actually, my point is that Will seems to like the feudalism part without any understanding of the field of economics, or, for that matter, the nature of advanced industrial capitalism, whatsoever. Along with his protege, Buckley, he lives in a pre-modern, pre-capitalist world.
montag @ 24
montag @ 26
Then all states must meet at least the minimum wage set by Congress. An individual state cannot have a state minimum wage law which is lower than the federal minimum wage?
egregious,
“But Scarborough is -arguing- more and more with Buchanan. I am very encouraged. Watch the news that works for you, but as a sociologist I am tres interested in what’s happening on his show.”
I’m with Teddy on this one. Joe S. knows how Keith is raising the ratings roof and it’s a great lead in for him. He wants to benefit from that librul luv. It is a smart business decision on his part. Yes, he is trumpeting that he’s a “fiscal conservative” and now disagrees with the admin. Most sentient beings are finally coming around to that.
It will be a while before I believe that Joe had a conversion experience and has been reborn. I’ll be happy to have him work at convincing me, though.
Keep in mind that Arianna and Ed Schultz both used to be conservatives before they saw the error of their ways.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 34
That would be correct.
Given that Will has waded in with his opinion on the minimum wage, I’ll offer this. Most people know Thomas Frank for What’s the Matter With Kansas?, but, it’s worth the reminder that his previous and less-noted book was One Market Under God, and is also well worth the read.
Re: George Will. Gulley Jimson to his young friend, Nosey, who wants to be an artist: “The trouble with you is, you’re an enthusiast.”
Will’s never had any reason not to be an enthusiast.
RevDeb
I am the original sceptic but I hear something authentic in Sc’s pushback against the mandatory rightwing people he has on his show. There is a new voice there.
He defends himself as an American who no longer supports the insanity the president puts forth as perfectly normal.
BREAKING:
An egrChild now gets the value of increasing the minimum wage. Call the newspapers.
O.T.
Gilliard answers Joe Klein. Simple. Straightforward. Short easy words that anyone can understand.
Twisted Martini @ 37
I see Scarborough evolving in the same way. Patience! Wait with open arms. They are coming our way. Be ready with mercy, they have to be hurting to realize they were so, so wrong.
My view of middle America is one of great humiliation as particularly the men get that we have been going in the wrong direction. It’s shameful, and men are not so good with shame. We can help them by being kind to the ones who are heading our way.
Of course the ones who still go for the whole war thing? Fire away.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 35
I suppose that a state can ignore federal law, but they do so with the great certainty they will lose a legal challenge to their refusal to obey law.
But, yes, states have the obligation to follow federal law. Federal law has superceding authority.
Knowing this administration, I’d almost expect Bush’s NLRB to challenge the law, if passed.
Scarborough is going to pull a Huffington. He will make hard realizations and come over to the side of light.
And now in the spirit of my pulling back from full force, in order to preserve my fragile core, I bid you Gute Nacht.
The same guys I talked about above have even figured out that Iraq is a big mess.
egregious @ 39
I’m not contradicting you. Just reserving my judgement for the time being.
Blub @ 8
They’re all saying that now. The 2008 GOP primaries promise to be nothing more than a catfight over which candidate is the realest conservative of them all.
Twisted Martini — in re: Kool-Aid drinkers –
I am sitting here in tears, crying my eyes out. I got the most disgusting email from a family member, sent to the rest of their email distribution list. It’s one of their usual brainless FWD: jobs; one of their friends got it from one of their friends, and so on, and they send it on, too.
It’s about the high school students in Whittier and Pioneer CA that protested the impending immigration reform this past year. They’d walked out of class, rehung the US flad upside down and with a Mexican flad on the same pole. Lots of red meat anti-brown skin rhetoric about how we are losing America.
Mind you, the person that sent this to me is my father. A brown-skinned American of mixed race, whose island country was occupied after its queen was deposed by the U.S. He sent it as well to my brother, who is adopted and of Philippino ethnicity, and his wife, who is Hispanic.
I want to slap my father into next week for his blind support of anything labeled Republican.
I want to slap every one of these white friends that sent this to him, and every one of the white friends that he’s sent it to, right into next week.
In response, because I absolutely cannot let this pass, I’ve written about the concentration camp, about the ethnic cleansing of NOLA, about the White Rose Society, and now I have to provide all these educated-but-ignorant people links to support my comments. Struggling to do it without breaking down more, so disgusted.
Jordan, I think there’s a push of propaganda under way, a fresh wave if this obnoxious email is any indication. We need something that discusses labor’s position on immigration so that we can rebut this kind of hateful propaganda when it shows up in our email boxes.
So very sad and embarrassing.
Happy New Year Jordan !
a related personal note -
the underemployed mr. cbl came home with a ‘real job’ and a UNION CARD today (on going Snoopy dance!)
25 years as a tradesman, migrated to management and then of course down-sized and subsequently deemed unemployable in his trade (too much experience = don’t wanna pay ya anything for it)
well, it seems the union has an affirmative action program for geezers.
yes, a living wage and (omfg!) benefits will go a long way to help our family, but am so thrilled he will again have the dignity that comes with doing something one is good at and to be a Union Family again, my oh my
continues snoopy dance around FDL wheelhouse . . .don’t tell me, I’ll take it to the U-nion !, I’ll take it to the U-nion !
“Hillary and Obama may be on the tip every pundit’s tongue, but it’s John Edwards who’s focused like a laser beam on winning labor support…”
“According to former Clinton speechwriter David Kusnet, Edwards is “making economic populism and the value of unions part of his general message to all audiences,” supporting strikes and walking picket lines.”
His stand on labor issues and his admission to making a mistake in voting to give Bush a blank check in Iraq are really making Edwards an attractive candidate. At least as far as this Dem is concerned.
Mary McCurnin @ 45
Nah, then he loses his fundie viewers.
Scarborough’s embracing “pure conservatism” is a very common theme these days. It’s a way of distancing one’s self from all the shit the Bushies have been spreading around, in part by saying, “they’re not real conservatives like we are.” People like Scarborough are counting on people not checking their records for previous statements which were wholly supportive of the things they now deplore as unconservative.
It’s more smoke and mirrors, along with the rather bald and blatant attempt at the self-rehabilitation of their rather smarmy pseudo-intellectualization of what is, after all, conservatism at its core.
What Bush did, and what people like Scarborough hate, is that Bush showed conservatism’s faults and failures and intellectual poverty in glorious wide-screen Technicolor. Bush, quite unintentionally, stripped away all the pretense and flowery language in which conservatives had cloaked their movement.
And, now, Scarborough is yelling, “no, no, that’s not conservatism at all.”
Nice try, Joe.
BTW, George Will was talking out of his *ss more than usual, calling labor a commodity.
It is not. The U.S. Government hasn’t considered it a commodity since 1914.
What a moran.
RevDeb @ 38
Actually, a state could have such a law, but the federal law, if it sets a higher minimum wage, would prevail. States don’t always amend their minimum wage laws to conform to new federal standards, but that does not enable employers in that state to ignore federal law. The state law just becomes irrelevant at that point.
Gotta love skinny dippin at the Lake.
Thank you all.
I thought my webcam was broken…
Great news, cbl! Congrats to you and mr. cbl.
cbl, YAY!
So happy for you and your family.
Rayne @ 50, I’ve gotten a couple of very bad emails from an old high school
friendperson I used to know. I had to find cites and quotes and sources to rebut it but it’s horrible.Margot @ 59
I used to get them, and there was no use arguing. I finally to take him off his spam list.
Rayne @ 50
Ouch! The emails I get from TheoCon family/friends often provoke a similar response for me. Remember: just because those around you are acting nuts, it doesn’t mean you need to do so as well. Good luck!
If you’re looking for links, check out the various sections in the FDL sidebar. Lots to mine there.
montaq — Maybe Scarborough is beginning to realize the truth:
Pure conservatism = progressivism
Small but effective, transparent and honest government will help our country progress more than a large, incompetent, secretive and corrupt government.
Free circulation of information and people without government intervention but rather government encouragement stimulates innovation and economic development.
Addressing the root cause of terrorism through a policy of engagement, diplomacy and foreign aid is far more effective and promotes increased stability than disengagement, abandoned policy, and hegemonic warfare.
Citizens have the right to be free of the government in their bedrooms and doctors’ offices.
For starters.
I’m a pure conservative, doncha’ know?
egregious @ 43
I think we also have to look through the eyes of someone who has placed their life’s philosophy in a snake oil salesman, defended the decision to unconditionally believe in that person and finally to admit they were taken in by a complete fraud.
That has to be devastating to admit, especially for a conservative.
I’m not so sure that Scarborough is embracing true conservatism or maybe that ideal is being redefined. When any conservative speaks in terms that show caring more for those not in a position to defend themselves, I’d say that’s liberalism.
Aside from his ‘ideas’, George Will puts me off as to his attitude. He’s a pompous, arrogant fellow who seems to go to great lengths to prove to everyone he’s a real smarty pants. Anyone of average intelligence can appear brilliant and write cumbersome and flowery narratives etc., with the use of a thesaurus and a dictionary. Will’s superior attitude is very off-putting. He does know baseball stats. I’ll give him that. But I don’t like him.
thanks all !, my steady’s letting me wear his union pin tonight
hey cdc, wipe your feet !
Unions - one could say that it was the loss of a union job that ruined my marriage.
My ex-husband has epilepsy. He had graudated from college but the stress of a new job caused many problems. He found a union job at a factory, and after a seizure at work they gave him a safer job in the same warehouse. But he kept his pay.
7 years he worked there. Then the company was bought out by a French company and closed completely. Three months went by and they reopened, without the union. They called 95% of the old workers back (minus union pay). Needless to say, my husband with his medical history was not called back. My ex- took it very hard and started drinking. NOT a good thing for him.
Having a good union job gave our family a base upon which to build. Without it, we all fell to ground.
Twisted Martini — it’s my DAD. How am I going to take him off my list and put him in the spam list?
[sigh]
One of those whining 6-figure brats you described could have been my brother. Disgusts me.
cbl,
GREAT NEWS!! Good things come to good people (sometimes). I’m happy for both of you. Dignity through work is no small thing. May the job be everything you and he want it to be.
Very glad for the good news, cbl. We haven’t had enough of that around here, it’s like a light at the end of the tunnel to hear you landed a union gig.
OT: Now this is framing.
So not renominating judicial appointees that don’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of confirmation counts as a “concession” now. What a magnanimous guy our president is!
Hey Rayne, sorry I missed your response above. It takes a pretty sharp stick to pierce that veil of ignorance and fear. The cognitive dissonance kicks in in a big way. Those emails would get me really worked up as well, I know very well how you feel. These days I just combat that kind of hate and fear with ridicule and derision. They may not change their way of thinking but they damn well know not to bring that ignorance around me because I’m going to call them on it.
P.S. to my #66:
I am really glad to see some more union energy arising. And where did I read that Edwards is really courting that vote. As well he should with his ‘Two Americas’ idea. I saw an AEI guy on cspan 2 spouting off about the ridicuousness of Edwards ideas. Stuooooopid.
anyway good reading. Also I finally, after working all day to register for YearlyKos, 6 emails back and forth to the guy running the registration site, and 5 passwords later, I am registered. I can be very dimwitted at times. It’s O.K. Grandmas have a built in excuse.
Fitz!
Rayne, my dad is the same way. Not forwarding ignorance, but has been so brainwashed by what he calls “religion” and hate radio. Mix in a little bipolar and a high intelligence and there you have it. Recently made a fairly racist comment in front of my kids and I jumped him hard. I questioned him into silence which isn’t easy to do. I told him I would not tolerate that talk in my house. It was hard for me, but my kids had never been exposed to that shit and I’ll be damned if they are going to here it from their Grandfather.
Rayne @ 62
Well, that may play in some circles, but I don’t buy it.
Pure conservatism–that going back to Edmund Burke and his Reflections on the Revolution in France–is exactly what Bush has been espousing–that the elites should run things, and everything has to remain the same now that we’re at the top of our game.
That’s real conservatism. The destruction of any populist impulse in society. Feudalism in a blue pinstripe suit. Imperial maintenance and futher ambitions realized.
Bush is conservative to his bloody, black-hearted core.
Progressivism, by almost any definition, is the antithesis of classical conservatism.
Conservatism, despite fifty years of trying to put it in a pretty dress, is still the same old Gilded Age whore for control of everything by the very, very few.
Scarborough isn’t ashamed. He’s unhappy. There’s a difference. :)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but won’t increasing the minimum wage also pump more money into the Social Security System?
Higher hourly wages for millions of U.S. citizens means higher payroll taxes collected means more money for Social Security.
And won’t this additional money being pumped into Social Security shore up some of the shortfall projected in Social Security as baby boomers retire?
Probably even increasing the size of the Social Security surplus built up over the past years, and bolstering the financial health of Social Security by decades?
Bush will veto any minimum wage increase for this very reason. An hourly wage increase would help Social Security while Bush and the neocon Republican goal is to destroy Social Security.
Maybe, just maybe, Democrats will find enough truly “compassionate conservative” Republicans to help override any Bush veto, but if not, American citizens in 2008 will remember the Republicans who obviously don’t give a damn about the elderly in our country.
Rayne, Peterr, et all
Immigrants are the new Welfare Moms
Whenever the robber barons or the right have made a big enough dent in the communal pie for everyone to see, they point to the poor somewhere as being responsible.
In the 70s/80s they looted the Federal coffers to prop up the debacle which had a public face of the Savings and Loan bailout, then pointed unemployed single moms
Now they will attempt to blame the giant sucking noise that is big pharma and offshoring on illegal immigrants.
And Rayne, for what it’s worth, I put my mother in law in the spam folder (isn’t that where a mother in law belongs?) She would just deluging us with stupid shit and wouldn’t stop until my wife told her she got the auto-delete.
rumi @ 63
Sorry for messing up the blockquotes there. I was responding to Rumi 63. The words in the blockquote are mine.
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Mack @ 77
Actually, Reagan whipped up a big immigration brouhaha in 1985.
Xenophobia has always been an element of the plan–going right back to the beginning of the country. The Alien Acts of 1798 were John Adams’ attempt to hold onto power by raising the time for naturalization from five years to thirteen years….
montag @ 75
I understand and appreciate what you’re saying here. I see the situation a little differently and part of it comes back to the topic of this thread - unions - a force that can be used in different ways.
Do you see any negative traits that are attributed to conservatives that also apply in some way to progressives or liberals?
Rayne @ 54
That’s an attitude that’s pretty common among managers and executives these days. I think it reflects one of the truly foolish aspects of modern American business philosophy, which can best be summarized as “workers are replacable parts”. They are replacable of course, but many managers who put that theory into practice find out just how hard it is to replace those parts.
Psssst. New thread, pass it on.
The Oracle @ 76
probably, but it depends on how many mcjobs jobs the increase will destroy in the short term, and, for those jobs that can’t simply be cut off, how it eats into the short-term bottom-lines of mcjob employers. this is what Will doesn’t seem to understand. Raising the minimum wage will, in the short term, hurt employment growth by getting rid of a few of our most disposable and discretionary jobs (or, more likely, prevent them from getting developed) but,in the longterm, it benefits the economy as a whole by fueling innovation etc. In the process, it benefits the vast bulk of low-wage workers (who aren’t discretionary or easily fireable) by increasing their take-home pay. It’s a win-win for most, except for a few mcjob industry lobbies that thrive on labor exploitation (hence the rethug opposition).