
Glenn Greenwald has been reporting for months on the appalling treatment by US authorities of those held in US prisons in the US, Guantanamo, Iraq/Afganistan and elsewhere under the pretext that these “unlawful enemy combatants” were the “worst of the worst” and a threat to American security. You can trace his many efforts starting here, and keeping going through Glenn’s archives as long as you can stand the sickening stories he relates. The Military Commissions Act of 2006 sought to strip detainees of any remaining habeas corpus rights to US courts, and so far, it has. But it was at least supposed to stop the most serious mistreatment of prisoners and provide a minimum of due process. No serious person believes that.
From The Guardian, Tuesday, January 9:
The day after tomorrow marks the confluence of two ignominious anniversaries. The first is the five-year anniversary of the opening of the notorious prison camps run by the US at the Guantánamo naval air station in Cuba. In the five years since the US started shipping prisoners from around the world to Guantánamo, approximately 99% have never been charged with any transgression, much less a crime. Approximately 400 prisoners, characterised by the Bush administration as "the worst of the worst", have been released without charge, many directly to their families. That any prisoners have been released is due almost entirely to the outrage of the civilised world.
Thursday is also the start of my clients' fifth year of captivity around the world. Bisher al-Rawi and Jamil el-Banna, both British residents, are prisoners because British intelligence tipped off the CIA that they were travelling from the UK to Gambia and falsely described them as Islamist terrorists. We know this because in a court proceeding last year the British government produced copies of telegrams sent by MI5 to the CIA. Although the names are redacted from the documents, we know that the CIA was the recipient because the judge in the case inadvertently noted that they had been sent to the CIA. In the telegrams, MI5 provided knowingly false information to induce my clients' arrest and subsequent rendition.
Bisher and Jamil remain prisoners because, until March of last year, Britain refused to demand their release. Then the foreign secretary made what appears to be a half-hearted request for the release of Bisher in the face of public exposure of the connections with MI5. Britain, however, still refuses to demand the release of Jamil and seven other British residents. None will ever be charged; there is no evidence in the record I have reviewed that would withstand the slightest scrutiny in any court. Moreover, the treatment of Bisher and Jamil has been so appalling, the Bush administration would never allow their story to be exposed to the world in open court. And, of course, some of that story directly implicates British officials.
The story, written by G. Brent Mickum, an American attorney representing the two British detainees, details their five years of continuous mistreatment at Guantanamo by US authorities. Mickum describes how repeated interrogations and months of isolation have "slowly but surely" driven his clients towards madness. Yet for several years, neither the British nor US governments did anything to change the conditions until last year.
That changed suddenly when the government asked for Bisher's return on non-humanitarian grounds, belatedly conceding that Bisher had worked for MI5. Unfortunately for Bisher, this long-overdue admission, and the British government's request for his immediate repatriation, coincided with Bisher being thrown into isolation. He remains there more than nine months later, with no end in sight.
Read the rest of the story for how Mickum describes five years of mistreatment at the hands of US authorities, with the apparent indifference of the British Government. Then ask yourself this: In whose name is this being done? And could we have at least one reporter at today's White House gaggle ask Mr. Snow how he personally feels about this?
Our second British story from the Daily Mail (h/t Lou Costello and Raw Story) concerns the British response to the US plans to escalate the Iraq war by sending in several thousand additional US troops. It seems that the British Government thinks the Bush plan is a bad idea.
Tony Blair will make clear this week that Britain is not going to send more troops to Iraq even if the US pushes ahead with a "surge" of 20,000 extra soldiers.
The Prime Minister will insist that the UK will stick to its own strategy of gradually handing over to the Iraqi army, as it has been doing with success in Basra and the south. . .
Mr. Blair may have been encouraged by the comments of Chancellor Gordon Brown, viewed as the likely successor to Blair later this year, and who has been outspoken about distancing the British from President Bush:
He hinted that he will take a more independent position in relation to the White House as prime minister, promising to "speak my mind" and put Britain's national interest first.And he made clear that the "surge" of up to 20,000 new troops for Iraq expected from Mr Bush would not deflect him from the aim of reducing Britain's military commitment in the country by thousands by the end of the year.
The chancellor's description of the manner of Saddam's death as "deplorable" and "completely unacceptable" increased pressure on Mr Blair, who has so far refused to comment publicly on the former dictator's hanging.
I keep thinking that all it might have taken at any critical moment to stop the madness was for a decent person in a position of world leadership to stand up and simply say, "No. Enough. Stop." But we are still waiting.



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Fitz!
Once you’ve lost Ollie… http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..scalation/
Blair is a partcularly distasteful example un- moral rectitude.
Tony Blairs’ chin has seen more Bush tea-bags than a saucer in Kennebunkport.
-GSD
“Yo Tony!”
Hi Scarecrow, good stuff. Linky to Glenn’s blog “starting here” not work, I get Error 500.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot…..of-us.html
[Mod note; it looks like some blogspot sites are down. We’ll check the link again when it comes back up.]
OT – Tester on C-SPAN2
If you can stand the complete 6 minutes of Bill O’ and Ollie on escalation:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0109.html
Lou Costello @ 8
I would prefer to crush rock salt with my eyelids.
-GSD
Blair shares responsibility equally with Bush for their involvement in the bloody horror that is Iraq. And Bush isn’t going to pay attention to anything Blair has to say. He never has.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 3
I’m confused …are you implying that Blair is an amoral rectum ?
This happens over and over and over. It’s like the mathemeticians and physicists noticing that the then-known planets didn’t account for the observed orbit of Uranus. But whatever’s out there is a whole lot bigger in the scheme of things than Neptune.
It’s mind boggling. John Dean went to prison. Oliver North didn’t.
It looks like Elliot Abrahams efforts to start a Palestinian civil war are going well.
You’ve got Fatah in my Hamas.
-GSD
I think he said that Tony Blair’s bunghole tastes bad.
-GSD
o/t
can’t get in to Gilliard, anyone else having trouble ?
Where have I seen that photo before?
;>)
Rolling blackouts on blogspots today.
GSD @ 4
Genius!
cbl @ 16
I can’t reach anyone at blogspot — atrios, hecate, gilliard, digby — blogger appears to be bloggered. Sigh…
Scarecrow – you might want to look at this commentary by Robert Parry:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010807R.shtml
oh puhleeze, Richard Pryor dead of a 2nd heart attack and Richard Cheney crawling the earth after 5
thanks all for the ‘blogger’ responses !
“…the pretext that these “unlawful enemy combatants” were the “worst of the worst” and a threat to American security.”
_____
I sometimes watch the gritty MSNBC prison series “Lockup.” Given that we routinely manage to effectively deal with large numbers of “the worst of the worst” that I can personally imagine — domestic criminal dudes that would gut you mercilessly given the slightest opportunity — in a manner consistent with our Constitution, I find it the absolute galling height of brazen mendacity to claim that the Gitmo etc collars are SO fucking dangerous as to necessitate the barbarities we have visited upon them as a matter of policy.
This shit is nothing more than part of Cheney’s and Pissy Boy Bush’s Tough Guy act. Never has anything been more transparent. Neither of those pukes would last 30 seconds at Gitmo.
_
I can’t reach anyone at blogspot — atrios, hecate, gilliard, digby — blogger appears to be bloggered. Sigh…
Google is ‘doing maintenance’ today; one of my other reading spots (genealogy, not politics) had a notice up this morning. Why they have to do it during the day is a good question, and one they ought to be prepared to answer.
most of blogger is down.
atrios, americablog, digby, glenn greenwald. You guys at FDL may want to get on the horn and start yelling at people to find out what’s going on.
BattleStations!!!
On Hardball yesterday, Dana Millbanks speculated that the Dems have adopted a strategy of non-interference with Bush, that they will let Bush sink with his failure of the Iraq War, and simply focus on 2008. (Transcript not up yet at msnbc.com.)
This resonates with Biden’s claim that BushCo have also decided that the war is already lost.
Which in turn resonates with increasing speculation in MSM that this “surge” is simply a face-saving move to very quickly hand operations over to Iraqis before US pulls out in the next few months.
The main point is this: Several conflicting narratives keep coming out of the Beltway, and journalists and politicians are trying to make sense of all this.
Somebody please put the word “ignominious” into one of Bush’s speeches.
o/t
. . .but totally bitchin’
E Vote critic appointed Depty S of S – Voting Systems – Technology & Policy
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3999
Couldn’t the Dems make this all go away with a simple vote to rescind the AUMF?
I mean, how difficult could that be?!
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 20
Thanks Stephen, I’ll check it out.
GSD @ 14
Elliot Abrams.
darkblack @ 17
Oh, you caught me, darkblack. It took me hours to cleanup your photo.
Biodun @ 30
Gracias.
-GSD
OT~ If you listen close, you can actually hear the ‘pop’ as the head exits the ass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..&eurl=
What have we gotten for our trouble in Iraq?
AP: Execution sparks Arab support for Saddam
Status as martyr hero grows as new gruesome gallows video appears
And of course we’ve handed over Iraq to Iran via the Shiite’s.
please excuse the early OT…. but i just had to stop by to celebrate some good news.
i expect you-all (cable-able) are already all over this is. but i just heard about kennedy’s bill (introduced today, i think?) to prevent the bush/mccain/lieberman/aei/… iraq war escalation.
here is a TPM summary, with this bit from the bill (via marty lederman):
i’ll be watching kennedy on C-SPAN2 at 1pm. here’s what C-SPAN has to say:
On the other hand, this from Salon’s War Room contradicts my # 25 above:
Elliot Abrams. Now there IS a nasty piece of work.
Everything seems to be going fine as to the joint Israeli/American plan for Palestine.
OT ~ “Santorum joins think tank.”
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg…..97-100.stm
I grabbed a quick lunch but stayed awhile because the Pub was showing CSPAN’s Washington Journal, with Frederick Kagan, the ever so reasonable chief neocon architect of the escalation. If I can get the transcript . . . And I want to find a more persuasive rebuttal than any I’ve seen so far, something that gets beyond the rhetoric that disgusts/appeals to either side.
Lou Costello @ 38
Santorum ‘thinks’? An unusual concept.
Santorum is uniquely qualified.
No one tanks better than Rick Santorum.
-GSD
[Mod note; it looks like some blogspot sites are down. We’ll check the link again when it comes back up.]
i think it’s the “Old Blogger” sites that are bloggered…www.walled-in-pond.blogspot.com, which i moved over to the blogger beta a coupla months ago is accessible, but verra verra slow…
/
Santorum joins Stink Tank
HotFlash @
12
I personally think other world leaders are frozen in the headlights when they try to figure out what to do. Diplomacy has it’s rules and customary etiquette and the relations between nations requires a considered and coordinated dance with a country as rich and powerful and vital as the U.S.
On the other hand, any fool can see the Bush &Co. are batshit crazy, running around on their own who-the-fuck-knows agenda. This agenda and the crazy behavior of the American leaders threatens the world’s balance both politically and economically.
But if you, as a national leader, try to challenge Bush in any way, you get targeted by our lovely winger media and their multi-national media companies, by certain powerful corporate interests, by your own conservative political wing, and up until this month, by the American Congress/Senate (”Freedom Fries” and the like).
So leaders keep their heads down, trying to do the minimum, all the while hoping the American people wake up and take this bunch of nutters out. You know, like before the Persian Gulf is a slag heap of rusting metal reefs and oil is at $300 and somebody’s glassed parts of Iran.
twolf1 @ 43
I think its more like a Spetic Tank!
OT ~ Things that go bump in the night: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story…..amp;page=1
GSD @
14
Isn’t that Judy Miller’s lawyer?
Rumi,
That is Floyd Abrams, father of Dan Abrams who is head of MSNBC news department.
I think Elliot is a cousin of Dan.
-GSD
You know what I’d love to see. The parents of the 20,000 additional troops gathered in a room to listen to Bush’s speech tomorrow and then, letting them vote. I think this would be very fair for everyone.
Oh the criminality of the special relationships…
Laura Rozen investigates the cia planes possibly used for renditions
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/005401.html
okay doggies, help a sistah out -
Re: repealing AUMF -
via FindLaw link -
http://news.findlaw.com/wp/doc…..23.es.html
Sec 2, paragraph B -
sounds good, so I look up 1973 War Powers Resolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
and under “Provisions”, find this -
simpleton I can be wonders why it hasn’t been challenged on the 60 day thingy -
and before someone writes that the AUMF language may have somehow skirted this barrier -
Maybe Santorum part of that “sink tank” in the news today?
Not like the “drink tank” they have over at Exxon.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @
20
Oh my. That is the scariest thing I’ve read in awhile. I mean, there’s so much in there you can’t quote any one bit….but here’s some…
That’s their FEAR? Have these people any sanity or compassion left at all?
I think I’ll just go back to bed now.
Heads up, friends -
Update your Idiot to English dictionaries.
Roll-out of new terminology -
PLUS-UP = Pentagon-speak. a.k.a. surge. a.k.a. escalation
‘Coalition of the Willing’ allies at odds on surge; Blair says ‘no’.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0109.html
Are you against Bush’s plan to escalate the war in Iraq? Add your name to the petition HERE
George Bush plans to announce his intention to escalate the war in Iraq by sending tens of thousands of more troops to pursue his flawed strategy. If he wants to ignore the advice of the military and the findings of the Iraq Study Group, he’s going to have to make his case and get the consent of the people through their elected representatives. Senator Kennedy has introduced legislation that makes the issue plain. It states that any substantial new commitment in Iraq requires a plan from the administration and explicit authorization from Congress.
Speaking of Man-on-Dog, Santorum is joining the Ethics and Public Policy Center where he will run a program called “America’s Enemies”.
Here’s a bit of the article:
The center was established 30 years ago to apply moral principles derived from Christianity and Judaism to public policy issues. It is strongly, but not exclusively, associated with conservative Catholic intellectuals. Another of its senior fellows, George Weigel, is best known as the author of the most comprehensive biography of the late Pope John Paul II. Mr. Santorum, who served as a Pennsylvania senator from 1995 until this year, is an outspoken Catholic.
Note the qualifier “strongly, but not exclusively, associated with conservative intellectuals”.
That certainly applies to Rickeee
Waccamaw @ 54
Is that anything like “double plus ungood?”
As long as we are living in Orwellian times we might have to start talking like it.
marksb says:
That’s their FEAR? Have these people any sanity or compassion left at all?
Never had either of the latter two to have any left, my friend.
GSD @ 48
Thanks for the correction.
WaPo had a detailed article on him back in 2003 so I wonder if the Dems had just welcomed him back into the fold
Lou Costello @ 55
Thanks Lou — my earlier draft had the original link to the Daily Mail article, but it got lost in some editing. I’ll add it back.
Twenty thousand more troops in Iraq won’t secure Iraq, and probably not even Baghdad. The numbers are so simple, I can’t believe that politicians are even willing to risk their careers for a security mission that can’t be accomplished.
When I served in Kosovo, we protected a Serbian church for six months. We had 40,000 troops to protect 200,000 Serbs that needed our protection. That is a ratio of 1 soldier for every 5 civilians. In Iraq, escalating the war from 130,000 troops to 150,000 troops will do little to secure a country of 26 million.
The idea that going to door to door in Baghdad will make a difference is even more ridiculous. Not only was a Stryker Brigade extended in Baghdad several months to unsuccessfully secure the city, but we have gone door to door in other cities such as Fallujah, only to return later because we couldn’t seize and hold terrain. Securing Iraq would require 500,000 troops for 7 to 10 years. So why are we going to send more troops to Iraq for a mission that can’t be accomplished without diplomacy?
link
Scarecrow @ 61
You know SC, I kinda felt there was something missing…*wink
Here’s some more to chew on: http://www.chris-floyd.com/ind…..Itemid=135
cbl @ 16
I can’t look at ANYTHING on .blogspot.com…it’s Forbidden by the Server as of this morning…this has never happened to me before, please let me know also if anyone else is experiencing this!
[Mod Note; Yes.]
Hi guys!
Just wanted to pop in here and say hi on my way to go exercise on the ol’ trampoline — while watching Ted Kennedy talk to the National Press Club (am hoping it plays as scheduled on C-Span 2 in a couple minutes).
Thanks, scarecrow, for another good piece. These people are such criminals, it takes the breath away. Somehow we’re all supposed to just get “used to” a “post 9-11″ America as international rogue state.
Someone upstream said that the world’s diplomats are stunned by Bush and don’t know how to behave other than ever-so-politely (my paraphrase). If that’s the case, it seems to me they ought to start studying how the diplomatic corps of various nations handled Germany and Japan during WWII — to look both at the mistakes of diplomats, and the smart moves they eventually figured out once they got it through their skulls what they were dealing with.
Seems like there ought to be examples from history worth considering, no?
neil @ 62
Thanks very much neil and thank you for your service to our country.
Gabe Morgan @ 64
Yup. “Internal Server Error. Error 500″
Okay, here goes.
Here begins Ted K’s speech to the Press Club on his anti-escalation legislation! C-Span 2.
See ya later!
Most of Blogger/BlogSpot is down:
http://paradisedriver.blogspot…..-down.html
Seems that Eschaton is back up…
GSD @ 9
SNORT!
neil @ 62
Neil — all good questions. I’m wondering how much Serbians were intermixed with non-Serbs. If there were distinct regions for each group, that would have made the job of keeping them apart easier than the one we face in Baghdad, where both sides appear to be trying to kill/intimidate anyone from the opposing sect in what began as more mixed neighborhoods.
Teddy is up on CSpan2 right now. Can’t watch myself, I’m sitting in a meeting and it would be very rude.
but
GO TEDDY!
cbl (61) — FYI, just left this in Senator Kennedy’s thread at DailyKos, thought you might find it of interest since it follows someone else’s comment regarding revisiting War Powers Act. (rumi — thanks for the assist yesterday, you’ll see I “borrowed” one of your comments.)
And now to fax this to Senator Levin…
Resources:
Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq
War Powers Act of 1973
Billy B @ 57
The National Review article on this has a nice little “Contribute to Scooter Libby Defense Fund” banner.
my blogger site is down
and I won’t be able to post comment on this but this is important;
concervative reagan aid has openly compared bush to hitler
raw breaks the story and it’s something we have to hammer away…this is big
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0109.html
RevDeb @ 58
Oh, god. Not more re-packaging of the product, please. How many euphemisms must we endure?
RevDeb @ 73
RevDeb – sorry to read that you can’t be listening to senator kennedy now. he’s doing a great job (just now explaning that a surge is an escalation). you should be able to listen later on dkos (and maybe BMG) where his staff has put up diaries that says they will post video.
Aaaaahhh…the other shoe.
from Raw:
Major loophole in Democrats ethics package; AIPAC, ASPEN
Institute exempt from harsh restrictions: Developing…
Rayne at 74: excellent letter. I assume you wouldn’t mind it others faxed that/similar letter to the Kennedy and Levin?
This could get ugly…
from Raw:
Major loophole in Democrats ethics package
being criticized by senior Democrat on Hill… Developing…
Rayne @ 74 – thanks -excellent work you’ve done.
Kennedy is hitting many, many crucial points.
I’ll be the first to admit that many of my doubts of the Democrats working for change after the elections are proving unfounded.
OT, but sweet for all of you Lieberman hating dirty hippies. (Via Atrios)
My Left Nutmeg reports on some local press. Special props to commenter Thomas C for his timeline of the Liarman lies.
Yay, Rayne!
I signed Kennedy’s petition (not that I expect it to work), and said that this war is illegal, immoral, unconstitutional, and criminal. It was started under false pretenses, it continues under delusions of competence, and if it doesn’t end now, it will end in mushroom clouds and radioactive glass.
Scarecrow — not at all, but folks should do a little wordsmithing on that, rather hastily thrown together I’m afraid.
For instance, folks might want to say that “a substantive portion of the intelligence on WMD in Iraq under which this authorization was extended
areis now proven grossly inaccurate if not outright fallacious.” Intelligence regarding Saddam’s abuse of his people has not been questioned. “Clear and present danger” was used to persuade Congress, but that “clear and present danger” never existed; if there is no “clear and present danger” now (and Saddam is dead, his government disbanded), there is no longer adequate justification to continue the AUMF.P J Evans — funny, in a sad and ironic way, isn’t it, to think that WE are the “clear and present danger”…
Wesley Clark also has a petition at his Securing America site.
I can’t wait for the story…
from Raw:
Major loophole discovered in Democrats ethics package…
Senior Democrat tells Raw provision will allow institute
where Cheney was fellow and group linked to Pentagon
spy scandal to sponsor trips… Developing…
That was a good speech! Questions coming now.
Was that Thomas Ricks I saw being the first (at least in his part of the room) to leap to his feet to give Teddy a standing ovation?
Interesting.
Let me know if I mis-identified the fellow.
standing ovation for senator kennedy at the NPC. is that common?
man, all the good stuff happens when blogger is down and I can’t post it
anyway, guess what”
http://rawstory.com/
the person that crafted this bizarre “surge” also wanted us to nuke n korea in 95
IT IS UNBELIEVEABLE these are the people the president us using for thier military “insight”
I do wish Senator Kennedy would drop the use of “war on terror.” He’s nailing the situation. Go Senator Kennedy!
Billy B @ 57
’cause if it was exclusively intellectuals, L’il Rickie would be….excluded
Scarecrow @
31
Noblesse O’ Bleach
;>)
Blair’s days of running cover for the Enterprise are drawing to a close, IMO.
perris @ 89
I feel like I’m stuck in a nightmare where our “foreign policy” crafters have been replaced by General Buck Turgidson and Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper.
senator kenney knows his legal history – off the cuff lecturing the audience now during q&a… very excellent (and passionate too! i think he’s pissed)
selise @ 94
Yes he is! And I think it’s wonderful that this morning he posted the full text of his legislation at dKos, saying in his diary, essentially, “This is what I think the American people want and expect. I’ll be bringing it to the floor later today. WHAT DO YOU THINK?”
What a guy.
We bloggers may need to help Big Dems replace war on terror with something much more appropriate.
If Dems will just stop using that term Reps will simply be talking to a wall. Stop ill defined fear slang!
Finally revisiting rest of thread after drafting that memo to Kennedy…
Avenging_angel (28) — the challenge is getting a veto proof vote. We must have a supermajority of support in the Senate to undo the AUMF.
I realize in asking for an amendment or termination of the AUMF that this is an uphill battle, but I also know we must put this on the record. It also sets the tone and draws the line in the sand in regards to War Powers.
Rayne –
I really like what you are suggesting. Bush has acted in bad faith regarding the requirements on the executive of the AUMF (and regarding everything else, too, but I digress).
Please let everyone know if you hear a response from Ted’s office.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 13
you know, he was never exonerated, I don’t believe he ever recieved a pardon either
I think the information against him was declared too secret to use in court…gray mail
I think if there is a democratic president he can de classify that information
I’m not sure if there is a statute of limitations when it comes to the crimes north can be tried but if not, traitors need to be held to account
there is no way this man should be making money as some kind of patriot when in fact he is a traitor
Rayne,
thanks and yes, excellent letter. Good Luck w/ Levin – he was making all kinds of hedging noises about
spoogesurge late last weekpersonal note: took great comfort in hearing earlier that you, Christy, EW, and Jane will all be in the same place anywhere on the planet – that whole ‘thing with wings’ thingy*g*
ackk! my c-span2 stream just crapped out. can anyone tell me what kind of questions senator kennedy is getting asked?
Interesting take on “the surge”.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/011851.php
selise –
Teddy is now speaking about all the unaddressed issues today which concern the harming of the middle class, the average person — to the advantage of the wealthy.
A real populist message (a lot of the Dems are echoing populist msgs, good for them!) –
Sorry but I missed the question — the pupster was barking her head off.
Amazing. How a bunch of Iraqi’s with rifles and improvised bombs can defeat the most mighty military machine in history. Kinda like Vietnam in that way. Perhaps it boils down to ‘determination’. I don’t think God is on our side.
AP – U.S. and Iraqi soldiers, backed by American warplanes, battled suspected insurgents for hours Tuesday on a central Baghdad street that been an insurgent hot spot for years, and 50 militants were killed, the Defense Ministry said.
AP – Helicopter gunships attacked suspected al-Qaida fighters in the south Tuesday after U.S. forces staged airstrikes in the first offensive in the African country since 18 American soldiers were killed there in 1993, witnesses said.
perris @ 101
No, North had his conviction overturned on appeal, because the testimony at his trial was determined to have been tainted by the immunized testimony given during the House and Senate hearings. Special Prosecutor Walsh was well and truly pissed at Congress for giving out immunity in ways that made it impossible to hold folks like North accountable at trial.
To repeat: North was found guilty, but the evidence to prove it was found to be inadmissable, and the conviction was overturned. Unless a prosecutor can find a way to make the case without using the immunized congressional testimony, North is in the free.
Steve @ 104
Neat! Can we call it a ’spunt’, then? Although I kinda like surge.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 106
And we’ll do it with blogs. And for the same reasons. It’s *our* home, and we won’t ever quit.
Despite the best efforts of the special prosecutor, Judge Lawrence Walsh, to insulate his gathering of evidence for the criminal charges against Oliver North, the Court of Appeals dismissed the case against North, ruling that the evidence he had given under limited Congressional immunity in the infamous hearings had, in effect, despoiled the evidence gathered independently by the special prosecutor. Even if all of North’s sub rosa activities wouldn’t have been revealed, I think most informed observers agree that Walsh had more than enough evidence that could be presented in open court to send North to the Big House for a solid stretch.
There’s always the War on Error theme.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 97
It seems to have worked well with surge/escalation.
DeWitt Grey at 97: I don’t disagree with your main point. I should be clearer. The views of all those world leaders were extremely relevant to me and to others who opposed the war from the beginning. The confirmd our views. But they made no diference to the WH. My point focuses on the actions/views of the British leaders, with whom Americans have always claimed a special relationship. Perhaps outright opposition by Blair would not have changed Bush’s views, but it might have changed his behavior and would have robbed him of what little international legitimacy he claimed. We will never know.
Great news from CNN:
Senator Tim Johnson’s condition has been upgraded and he starts rehabilitation soon.
Cheers for our sister state, South Dakota.
Mrs. K8 @ 94
I feel like I’m stuck in a nightmare where our “foreign policy” crafters have been replaced by General Buck Turgidson and Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper.
THAT is the best analogy of our situation I have heard.
Little did Kubrick, rest his soul, know this horror would replay itself within 40 years.
Really gettin’ worried here . . .
Prairie Sunshine @ 114
Excellent to hear!
Mrs. K8 @ 104
thank you so much for filling in the gap…
now, c-span is streaming again…. yeah!
oohh – i like his universal health care rant now! so many facts and figures at his finger tips…. he ate his wheaties today!
war on terror = George Bush’s failed effort to bring to justice Osama bin Laden and all those involved in attacking America on 9/11.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 106
I think in both stories, if you read through them, we and the Iraqi Army are fighting Sunnis, and not Shiites.
Just caught sight of Tweety. Oh fer Chrissake, he’s signing autographs for young journos.
Barf. It’s always and only about Tweety, isn’t it?
You know, I’m sick to death of all this “War on XYZ” rhetoric.
It just contributes to the general mentality of militarism.
How about “The Hunt for Violent Criminals”?
Or maybe the warmongers would deep-six that immediately ’cause it would sound like we’re hunting THEM down for prosecution.
Oh, wait! I really LIKE that idea!
Prairie Sunshine @ 114
yeah team
HotFlash @ 108
“Splurge”
Up at CNN.com:
WASHINGTON (AP) — In a concession to the Senate’s new Democratic majority, four of President Bush’s appeals court appointees have asked to have their nominations withdrawn, Republican officials said Tuesday.
These officials said that William Haynes, William Myers and Terrence Boyle had all decided to abandon their quest for confirmation. Another nominee, Michael Wallace, let it be known last month that he, too, had asked Bush to withdraw his nomination.
Mrs. K8 @ 120
great idea! way too much militarism in our culture… it’s gotten so bad most people don’t even recognize it anymore.
mandrake @ 115
Just read this on the HuffPo blogosphere re: Santorum’s America’s Enemy Think Tank:
“Thank God we have him to protect our precious bodily fluids…”
P J Evans @ 124
{{clapping}}
{{cheering}}
{{whistling}}
punaise @ 123
URGE?
cbl (102) — oh, don’t thank me…I’m not going to be doing any heavy lifting. EW and I are both local party officials in our respective regions of MI, have a gathering with an elected official next week given our roles as bloggers (which reminds me I need to spend more time on my own and less on the 8 others or so that I tend).
But I will be able to quiz EW albeit briefly about the upcoming trip to DC and about the building buzz surrounding her book, will be quite fun!!
Long-time fdler and friend Peterr will arrive in a few seconds with the next thread. Have a nice afternoon folks.
Mrs. K8 @
88
looked like Tom Ricks to me. wow, that Ted Kennedy sure gets my liberal blood simmering, he is a leader for sure.
and the sad irony of Senator Kennedy speaking out against escalation, comparing Iraq to Vietnam, echoing 1968 when his brother entered the Presidential race to end that war.
God bless Sen. Tim Johnson and his family!
It must be *tougher* to work on getting well when you know there are a bunch of people out there actively hoping you DON’T get well.
But then again, there’s probably something to be said for the fighting spirit that could ensue — “I’ll get better faster than normal — just to SPITE ‘EM!!!”
P J Evans @ 123
snoopy dance time!
Mrs. K8 @ 121
War on Everybody Right Wing Republican Extremists Don’t Like
mandrake @ 125
LOL!!! Thanks, mandrake!
I hadn’t read that yet. At least it’s confirmation that things really ARE as insane as the sane amongst us believe.
Scarecrow — thanks much, great job as always!!
OT in the EPU — check out these jobs that just got posted in my neck of the woods, listed with “Company Confidential”:
Um. Sure. Confidential. Super Secret Squirrel confidential.
scarecrow @ 130
Thanks for the lead-in, scarecrow, and for your own fine post!
P J Evans @ 124
That’s good news.
mandrake @ 134
Murtha!!!
Oh foo. I forgot that the word “spec*al*st” contains one of those oh-so-naughty drug names in it and I’m now in mod in the EPU.
Bad puppy. Bad.
Thanks, RevDeb and Peterr, for highlighting the great news from PJ Evans.
And, PJ, thank YOU — sorry I slid by that too quickly.
That really is GREAT news. It’s nice to have something to be genuinely grateful for.
It’s the first hard EVIDENCE — isn’t it? — that there is a real, genuine benefit to having elected Dems in November.
new thread here
I want to make something clear;
the Iraqi’s with their crude weapons and tactics did NOT defeat our army, they defeated the morons conducting the most inept campaign a person might ever imagine
it’s as if they wanted our armed forces to fail, it’s as if they wanted to weaken our national security, it’s as if they wanted to increase terrorism
it’s as if they read their playbook and played into their hands deliberately
Rayne –
It got through for me to read — shows up as #135.
And I love your Super Secret Squirrel Snark.
Good puppy! Good!
Mrs. K8 @ 88
Yup, pretty sure it was Ricks.
Mrs. K8 @ 120
He looked like spit…….like he hadn’t washed that blond hair in about two weeks. Amazing what a good make-up artist can accomplish w/a little paint, it’nit?
Waccamaw –
Thanks for responding. Ricks really looked like a jack-in-the-box. There was unmistakable enthusiasm in his leap to his feet.
As for Tweety….it would be comforting to think the reason he *looks* like spit is because average Americans registered their displeasure with his sorry excuse for journalism with their saliva.
Oh, dear, maybe that’s too nasty of me? — at least Tweety has been hammering AGAINST the Iraq fiasco.
Are you against Bush’s plan to escalate the war in Iraq? Add your name to the petition HERE
George Bush plans to announce his intention to escalate the war in Iraq by sending tens of thousands of more troops to pursue his flawed strategy. If he wants to ignore the advice of the military and the findings of the Iraq Study Group, he’s going to have to make his case and get the consent of the people through their elected representatives. Senator Kennedy has introduced legislation that makes the issue plain. It states that any substantial new commitment in Iraq requires a plan from the administration and explicit authorization from Congress.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 98
The Whore on Terra?
Susan Collins droning on (CSpan-2) in wait for the Last Honest Man unto whom she will yield the floor. Oh goodie. I can’t wait ; )
I can’t wait for her to be chased out of her senate seat.
scarecrow @ 119
Yes they’re Sunnis (Iraqis). And the Shiites? Well perhaps it’s the old ‘they may be sob’s but they’re our sob’s’ thing. At any rate, Iran is a Shiite country and for me the whole thing doesn’t make sense. Aren’t the Persians (Iranian Shiites) supposed to be our enemy? The ones that we and Israel are contemplating bombing. I don’t understand.
OT ~ Democrat’s Tough Ethics Bill? Maybe not so much:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0109.html
Scarecrow- you’re a class act and thanks for your posts–cc
Ted Kennedy was truly amazing in his speech today– brought tears and chills to me numerous times.
That Girl @
149
I could like that one.
angie @ 154 That was a new feeling of hope and pride.
Mrs K8 – Tweety seems to be coming around to reality. It’s good to see him actively opposing the runup to attacking Iran I sense that he carries the weight of guilt for not opposing the runup to Iraq,
scarecrow (your 113):
I take your point. It’s precisely the one that is splitting the support for the Labour Party here in Britain — Blair might well have been defeated in the 2005 general election if the Liberal Democrats had been a more credible progressive alternative. As it was, they held on to their majority by holding seats by some cliffhanging margins in greater London constituencies that should have been comfortably Labour, particularly given the inept Frank Luntz-Aussie focus group driven campaign Michael Howard ran for the Tories.
Labour, however, is terrified of being cast back into the political wilderness of their 18 years out of power from 1979-1997. So the Parliamentary Labour Party has refused to dump Blair, and the press, while nowhere near as lapdog as our American press, has played along with continuing to propagate the myth of Blair’s personal popularity — if the guy was such an electoral asset to Labour, why was he rarely, if ever, seen during the general election campaign without being so physically close to Gordon Brown that the Prime Minister could not be photographed without including his Chancellor in the shot?
The irony is that Harold Wilson resisted LBJ’s arm-twisting to obtain British participation in Vietnam without destroying the “special relationship” — and the further irony is that Blair’s desperate clinging to the U.S. as it led Britain on the road to disaster may finally dispel the myth of the “special relationship” once and for all here in Britain.
We’ll never know, but I believe Bush would have proceeded even in the face of forthright British opposition. Some of you may recall that the day 118 Labour MPs voted against authorisation for war, a worse defection than that suffered by Neville Chamberlain in May 1940, Donald Rumsfeld cavalierly told reporters that we could make do without the British — I happened to be in London when he did that, and my British friends and colleagues regarded it as a slap in the face that they would not soon forget.
And neither should we forget that how much Bush has valued Blair’s support should be measured by how much he has given for it. Ask anyone over here — it’s been next to nothing.
Way epu’d but the UK press was pretty much crawling with GITMO pieces. In addition to the one you had on Bisher, there was this one about his friend who was also kidnapped in Gambia and sent to GITMO:
This one:
http://news.independent.co.uk/…..137687.ece
Starts off with the question from a 10 yo boy to Tony Blair – “why can’t my dad come home.” The boy’s father, Jamil, is the friend of Bisher. He had the “Suspicious Device” (aka a battery charger) that was used as the pretext for pulling them out originally.
If Jamil ever does get out of GITMO, he may not be able to recognize his little boy – not because he will be much older than the five year old he left behind, but rather because Jamil is going blind at GITMO.
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You’re assuming that Bush actually listens to anyone. Frankly, at this point I’m beginning to think that those “ears” are purely ornamental