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		<title>By: Geralyn Horton</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/07/why-im-a-liberal/#comment-446849</link>
		<dc:creator>Geralyn Horton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was raised Unitarian, and I am still a regular church goer and choir member now that I’m a senior. The Social Gospel and human rights were the part of Christianity that my church accepted and practiced.  Dogmas such as the Virgin Birth, Original Sin, the Atonement and the Second Coming are not part of my heritage; and as a woman I’ve always regarded the all-male hierarchy and claims to infallibility of the Catholic Church with horror. But I’ve also always associated progressive politics with the spiritual discipline of Good Works, and worked happily with both faithful and lapsed Catholics to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised Unitarian, and I am still a regular church goer and choir member now that I’m a senior. The Social Gospel and human rights were the part of Christianity that my church accepted and practiced.  Dogmas such as the Virgin Birth, Original Sin, the Atonement and the Second Coming are not part of my heritage; and as a woman I’ve always regarded the all-male hierarchy and claims to infallibility of the Catholic Church with horror. But I’ve also always associated progressive politics with the spiritual discipline of Good Works, and worked happily with both faithful and lapsed Catholics to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: Thor Heyerdahl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/07/why-im-a-liberal/#comment-446815</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor Heyerdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cross posted at First Draft&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was a conservative through high school - even had the Reform party (Canadian) stickers up in my window.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However as I grew up, experience with different cultures (coming from a white bread Canadian suburb it was a nice change); a chance to visit other countries, being the only white guy in a sea of black people in Zimababwe (and having street children call me “baas” - Afrikaans for “master” unnerved me tremendously); and seeing the pain a gay man had at being apart from his long-term partner for 6 weeks while studying overseas showed that the conservative ways were not the direction I wanted to go. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(That being said, many Canadian Conservatives (esp. from the old Progressive Conservative party) are more liberal than many American Democrats). The line with the corporatists and conservatives has been blurred immensely over the last 25 years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I lived in Austria, people asked what colour the respective American parties would correspond to in Austrian politics. We figured that most Dems would usually be similar to the black of the Christian Conservatives (though there would be a few red socialists in the mix). As for the Repubs, many would be on the right side of the Christian Conservatives. However we figured many wouldn’t be out of place in brown - the party colour of that failed Austrian meglomanical painter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Conservatives often don’t know any better - the traditional isolationists don’t know the reality outside of their boundaries, and others are sheep wanting much more help from the government than their mantra portrays. And after seeing the clusterfuck of the last 6 years in America (plus living through a ‘conservative revolution’ in Alberta that saw thousands lose their jobs, a lack of planning, tuition hiked 10% a year for over a decade and voting electoral twits who took the punishment), I have often asked myself, “historically speaking - how often have the conservatives come out on the right side of society moving forward?” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hell, we’d still be serfs serving the manor before King John signed the Magna Carta at Runnymeade. (Oh wait…the Magna Carta is out of service in the USA)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn’t it interesting that America looks like England prior to 1215:&lt;br /&gt;
“John had incurred general hostility. His expensive wars abroad were unsuccessful, and to finance them he had charged excessively for royal justice, sold church offices, levied heavy aids, and abused the feudal incidents of wardship, marriage, and escheat. He had also appointed advisers from outside the baronial ranks.”&lt;br /&gt;
“Magna Carta.” The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/topic/magna-carta&quot;&gt;http://www.answers.com/topic/magna-carta&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cross posted at First Draft</p>
<p>I was a conservative through high school &#8211; even had the Reform party (Canadian) stickers up in my window.</p>
<p>However as I grew up, experience with different cultures (coming from a white bread Canadian suburb it was a nice change); a chance to visit other countries, being the only white guy in a sea of black people in Zimababwe (and having street children call me “baas” &#8211; Afrikaans for “master” unnerved me tremendously); and seeing the pain a gay man had at being apart from his long-term partner for 6 weeks while studying overseas showed that the conservative ways were not the direction I wanted to go. </p>
<p>(That being said, many Canadian Conservatives (esp. from the old Progressive Conservative party) are more liberal than many American Democrats). The line with the corporatists and conservatives has been blurred immensely over the last 25 years.</p>
<p>When I lived in Austria, people asked what colour the respective American parties would correspond to in Austrian politics. We figured that most Dems would usually be similar to the black of the Christian Conservatives (though there would be a few red socialists in the mix). As for the Repubs, many would be on the right side of the Christian Conservatives. However we figured many wouldn’t be out of place in brown &#8211; the party colour of that failed Austrian meglomanical painter.</p>
<p>Conservatives often don’t know any better &#8211; the traditional isolationists don’t know the reality outside of their boundaries, and others are sheep wanting much more help from the government than their mantra portrays. And after seeing the clusterfuck of the last 6 years in America (plus living through a ‘conservative revolution’ in Alberta that saw thousands lose their jobs, a lack of planning, tuition hiked 10% a year for over a decade and voting electoral twits who took the punishment), I have often asked myself, “historically speaking &#8211; how often have the conservatives come out on the right side of society moving forward?” </p>
<p>Hell, we’d still be serfs serving the manor before King John signed the Magna Carta at Runnymeade. (Oh wait…the Magna Carta is out of service in the USA)</p>
<p>Isn’t it interesting that America looks like England prior to 1215:<br />
“John had incurred general hostility. His expensive wars abroad were unsuccessful, and to finance them he had charged excessively for royal justice, sold church offices, levied heavy aids, and abused the feudal incidents of wardship, marriage, and escheat. He had also appointed advisers from outside the baronial ranks.”<br />
“Magna Carta.” The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/magna-carta">http://www.answers.com/topic/magna-carta</a></p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/07/why-im-a-liberal/#comment-446496</link>
		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Pach, for opening up this discussion.  “May the God of oceans fill your mouth with pearls.”  Hafiz&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was raised in a community of Catholic nuns and was taught in Catholic school.  I’ve had a lifelong obsession (?) preoccupation with spiritual matters.  Only now I’ve become obsessed with politics which lately I’ve come to believe has to do with cyclical, universal archetypal forces manifesting through individuals, history and the cultural zeitgeist.  For me there is a link between spirituality and politics, that the political is an expression of the spiritual.  As an example, my feeling is that the Holy Spirit pervaded and inspired the civil rights movement.  Vaclav Havel, Martin Luther King, and Gandhi are my heroes representing the integration of the spiritual and the political.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m a liberal because I believe in a level playing field, that everyone share in the prosperity of a nation.  I believe in social and economic justice, and the rule of law.  I’m a liberal because I believe we are all in this together and are responsible for one another, which is a spiritual principle behind policies like social security, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Pach, for opening up this discussion.  “May the God of oceans fill your mouth with pearls.”  Hafiz</p>
<p>I was raised in a community of Catholic nuns and was taught in Catholic school.  I’ve had a lifelong obsession (?) preoccupation with spiritual matters.  Only now I’ve become obsessed with politics which lately I’ve come to believe has to do with cyclical, universal archetypal forces manifesting through individuals, history and the cultural zeitgeist.  For me there is a link between spirituality and politics, that the political is an expression of the spiritual.  As an example, my feeling is that the Holy Spirit pervaded and inspired the civil rights movement.  Vaclav Havel, Martin Luther King, and Gandhi are my heroes representing the integration of the spiritual and the political.</p>
<p>I’m a liberal because I believe in a level playing field, that everyone share in the prosperity of a nation.  I believe in social and economic justice, and the rule of law.  I’m a liberal because I believe we are all in this together and are responsible for one another, which is a spiritual principle behind policies like social security, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Boudica</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/07/why-im-a-liberal/#comment-446409</link>
		<dc:creator>Boudica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 23:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sometimes I think being a liberal is part of my DNA. But of course that is not so. It is the nature of my upbringing, (very authoritarian parents). It is identifying nominally as a Catholic throughout childhood. Religious instruction and receipt of the sacraments, imposed rather than embraced or understood. Feelings of the mystical, magical child syndrome, i.e., guilt for all that was wrong around me. Realization at a very young age, that my parents weren’t emotionally equipped to deal with problems. But, I suppose what ultimately is responsible for my liberal and progressive views is the need to find an authentic self and voice. In so doing, it became obvious, that all life experience is personal and individual, deserving of respect and empathy. Choices are made out of the circumstances that shape individuals, and there is no monolithic American culture that can fit everyone. To be an American Indian is different than being an American Italian Catholic. To be an American Black is different than being a Mayflower descendant. Each is American, but uniquely American and different from each other. It just never made sense to me to believe that all people view things through the same lens. It never occurred to me that they should be compelled to do so. My husband is a quote collector. One, by a Greek philospher whose name I can’t recall says, “where it is a duty to worship the sun, the laws of heat will be poorly understood”. That is why I am a liberal…., I love people and I particularly love that they are all different.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I think being a liberal is part of my DNA. But of course that is not so. It is the nature of my upbringing, (very authoritarian parents). It is identifying nominally as a Catholic throughout childhood. Religious instruction and receipt of the sacraments, imposed rather than embraced or understood. Feelings of the mystical, magical child syndrome, i.e., guilt for all that was wrong around me. Realization at a very young age, that my parents weren’t emotionally equipped to deal with problems. But, I suppose what ultimately is responsible for my liberal and progressive views is the need to find an authentic self and voice. In so doing, it became obvious, that all life experience is personal and individual, deserving of respect and empathy. Choices are made out of the circumstances that shape individuals, and there is no monolithic American culture that can fit everyone. To be an American Indian is different than being an American Italian Catholic. To be an American Black is different than being a Mayflower descendant. Each is American, but uniquely American and different from each other. It just never made sense to me to believe that all people view things through the same lens. It never occurred to me that they should be compelled to do so. My husband is a quote collector. One, by a Greek philospher whose name I can’t recall says, “where it is a duty to worship the sun, the laws of heat will be poorly understood”. That is why I am a liberal…., I love people and I particularly love that they are all different.</p>
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		<title>By: Enslaved</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/07/why-im-a-liberal/#comment-446381</link>
		<dc:creator>Enslaved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 23:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am a liberal for all the reasons Webster tells me I should be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Main Entry: liberalism&lt;br /&gt;
Pronunciation: ‘li-b(&amp;-)r&amp;-”li-z&amp;m&lt;br /&gt;
Function: noun&lt;br /&gt;
1 : the quality or state of being liberal&lt;br /&gt;
2 a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing &lt;b&gt;intellectual liberty&lt;/b&gt; and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on &lt;b&gt;free competition, the self-regulating market&lt;/b&gt;, and the gold standard c : &lt;b&gt;a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race&lt;/b&gt;, and the &lt;b&gt;autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties&lt;/b&gt; d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a liberal for all the reasons Webster tells me I should be.</p>
<blockquote><p>Main Entry: liberalism<br />
Pronunciation: ‘li-b(&amp;-)r&amp;-”li-z&amp;m<br />
Function: noun<br />
1 : the quality or state of being liberal<br />
2 a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing <b>intellectual liberty</b> and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on <b>free competition, the self-regulating market</b>, and the gold standard c : <b>a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race</b>, and the <b>autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties</b> d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party </p>
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/07/why-im-a-liberal/#comment-446374</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 23:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-445999&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;katie Jensen @ 113&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Katie Jensen — I don’t know where you live, but please look into NACA, which is a program that will help you refinance a predatory loan, if they’re in your state.  Go to their web site and see if they’re near you.  This is a program that sounds too good to be true, but it’s not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naca.com/index_flash.pbl&quot;&gt;http://www.naca.com/index_flash.pbl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I got my first house as a single woman aged almost 60 through them.  I never thought I could buy a house, but they made it possible for me.  Please, please, please check it out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-445999"><em>katie Jensen @ 113</em></a></p>
<p>Katie Jensen — I don’t know where you live, but please look into NACA, which is a program that will help you refinance a predatory loan, if they’re in your state.  Go to their web site and see if they’re near you.  This is a program that sounds too good to be true, but it’s not.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.naca.com/index_flash.pbl">http://www.naca.com/index_flash.pbl</a></p>
<p>I got my first house as a single woman aged almost 60 through them.  I never thought I could buy a house, but they made it possible for me.  Please, please, please check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: cando</title>
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		<dc:creator>cando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-446236&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;momly @&lt;br /&gt;
                157              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; Everything you mentioned about his (Jesus’)  teachings and the concern he showed for “the least of these” colors my politics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if you can be a  Republican and be a Christian or a democrat.  Jesus’ teachings define most of the principles that democrats stand for.  Where did we start going so wrong?  Ronald Reagan?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-446236"><em>momly @<br />
                157              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p> Everything you mentioned about his (Jesus’)  teachings and the concern he showed for “the least of these” colors my politics.</p>
<p>I don’t know if you can be a  Republican and be a Christian or a democrat.  Jesus’ teachings define most of the principles that democrats stand for.  Where did we start going so wrong?  Ronald Reagan?</p>
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		<title>By: momly</title>
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		<dc:creator>momly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am a liberal &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; of Jesus Christ. Everything you mentioned about his teachings and the concern he showed for “the least of these” colors my politics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I could no more be anything other than a liberal than I could stop breathing - all because of my faith in Jesus Christ.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a liberal <em>because</em> of Jesus Christ. Everything you mentioned about his teachings and the concern he showed for “the least of these” colors my politics.</p>
<p>I could no more be anything other than a liberal than I could stop breathing &#8211; all because of my faith in Jesus Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: njr</title>
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		<dc:creator>njr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-445897&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Norman Conquest @&lt;br /&gt;
                14              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“Face the Nation” Ch. 5, 8:30 a.m. Guests: House Speaker &lt;b&gt;Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Others may have noticed this, but when did San Francisco become a state?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it’s been a state of mind since, oh, back about…&lt;br /&gt;
Meteor Blades will have the exact date, I’m sure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-445897"><em>Norman Conquest @<br />
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<blockquote><p><em>“Face the Nation” Ch. 5, 8:30 a.m. Guests: House Speaker <b>Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco</b>.</em></p>
<p>Others may have noticed this, but when did San Francisco become a state?</p>
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<p>it’s been a state of mind since, oh, back about…<br />
Meteor Blades will have the exact date, I’m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: oregondave</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/07/why-im-a-liberal/#comment-446208</link>
		<dc:creator>oregondave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-446170&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;johnSwifty @ 152&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That’s Hotflash’s blog quote!  Not a bad germ to engender a blog with!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Link? I googled but did not find . . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Update: Never mind, I found it&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hotflash-hotflash.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;HotFlash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-446170"><em>johnSwifty @ 152</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>That’s Hotflash’s blog quote!  Not a bad germ to engender a blog with!</p>
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<p>Link? I googled but did not find . . .</p>
<p>Update: Never mind, I found it<br />
<a href="http://www.hotflash-hotflash.blogspot.com/">HotFlash</a></p>
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