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		<title>By: cal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just read Katie Jensen’s comments (24) about Michigan’s UP.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She’s right and the el Nino stuff is crap. These experiences span a couple of years.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our last few summer trips to the UP (my wife’s a UPer) were in very hot weather.  Some people in the UP are even installing central air in their homes.  These are people who have lived in that area for many years and never even thought about central air in the past.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read Katie Jensen’s comments (24) about Michigan’s UP.</p>
<p>She’s right and the el Nino stuff is crap. These experiences span a couple of years.  </p>
<p>Our last few summer trips to the UP (my wife’s a UPer) were in very hot weather.  Some people in the UP are even installing central air in their homes.  These are people who have lived in that area for many years and never even thought about central air in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: cal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/06/pull-up-a-chair-talk-about-the-weather/#comment-445863</link>
		<dc:creator>cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I haven’t read all of the comments so if someone else has reported conditions in Michigan, my apologies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m in a suburb of Lansing.  Have lived in this area all my life.  I have to say this is incredible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There have been a few warm spells around the change of the year in the past.  Three that I can remember.  Once in the fifties and twice in the eighties.  However, those events lasted, at most, maybe five to seven days.  It’s been in the 40s and even in the 50s a few times all through December and so far in January.  We have no snow on the ground and haven’t had any snow on the ground.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Typically, the last week of December and the first three weeks of January are characterized by bitter cold and snow. Last week of January is often a thaw followed by bitter cold in February.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, horror of horrors, most of the upper peninsula has NO SNOW.  As a lifelong Michiganian I have to say that a snowless UP in January is incredible.  Completely beyond my memory (I’m 64).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is becoming a bit scary.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven’t read all of the comments so if someone else has reported conditions in Michigan, my apologies.</p>
<p>I’m in a suburb of Lansing.  Have lived in this area all my life.  I have to say this is incredible.</p>
<p>There have been a few warm spells around the change of the year in the past.  Three that I can remember.  Once in the fifties and twice in the eighties.  However, those events lasted, at most, maybe five to seven days.  It’s been in the 40s and even in the 50s a few times all through December and so far in January.  We have no snow on the ground and haven’t had any snow on the ground.  </p>
<p>Typically, the last week of December and the first three weeks of January are characterized by bitter cold and snow. Last week of January is often a thaw followed by bitter cold in February.</p>
<p>But, horror of horrors, most of the upper peninsula has NO SNOW.  As a lifelong Michiganian I have to say that a snowless UP in January is incredible.  Completely beyond my memory (I’m 64).  </p>
<p>This is becoming a bit scary.</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
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		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 05:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chief Seattle wasn’t lying, Pach.  Great quote.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will we ever wake up and realize what we’re doing here?  Before it’s too late, that is?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<p>Chief Seattle wasn’t lying, Pach.  Great quote.</p>
<p>Will we ever wake up and realize what we’re doing here?  Before it’s too late, that is?</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Watts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 04:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclimate.org&quot;&gt;www.realclimate.org&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;climate news and research from actual, real climate scientists …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it’s January 6 in central Maine and we have not had a winter. it was again in the mid 50s today. this is climate change, folks. just as predicted for the last 20 years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;stock up on air conditioners … let’s make sure we pumping as much CO2 into the atmosphere as possible … and drive around a lot too …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go to <a href="http://www.realclimate.org">http://www.realclimate.org</a> </p>
<p>climate news and research from actual, real climate scientists …</p>
<p>it’s January 6 in central Maine and we have not had a winter. it was again in the mid 50s today. this is climate change, folks. just as predicted for the last 20 years.</p>
<p>stock up on air conditioners … let’s make sure we pumping as much CO2 into the atmosphere as possible … and drive around a lot too …</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wish I had time to get into this, but ya think it’s just a coincidence that the weather started getting wacky since Shrub got into office?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Google &lt;i&gt;2025 Report and weather&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume3/chap15/v3c15-1.htm&quot;&gt;the report&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mmmm, questions, questions, questions&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not that global warming doesn’t have something to do with it, but, ya think Shrub would &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; ask the AF to nudge the jet stream north a little bit while he’s in office?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think he might&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I had time to get into this, but ya think it’s just a coincidence that the weather started getting wacky since Shrub got into office?</p>
<p>Google <i>2025 Report and weather</i></p>
<p>Here’s <a href="http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume3/chap15/v3c15-1.htm">the report</a></p>
<p>Mmmm, questions, questions, questions</p>
<p>Not that global warming doesn’t have something to do with it, but, ya think Shrub would <i>not</i> ask the AF to nudge the jet stream north a little bit while he’s in office?</p>
<p>I think he might</p>
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		<title>By: RandyBastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>RandyBastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The grass is turning green in Madison, WI and, yesterday, I saw two birds “doin’ it” on the ground!! ;-)  They think it’s spring too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Winters here have been getting progressivly warmer over the last few years. When I was a kid we’d have snow drifts on street corners that were so high you couldn’t see if a car was there or not. People had to put little orange balls on the tops of their radio antenna just to be seen at intersections.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the last ten years it’s just gotten warmer and warmer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The grass is turning green in Madison, WI and, yesterday, I saw two birds “doin’ it” on the ground!! ;-)  They think it’s spring too.</p>
<p>Winters here have been getting progressivly warmer over the last few years. When I was a kid we’d have snow drifts on street corners that were so high you couldn’t see if a car was there or not. People had to put little orange balls on the tops of their radio antenna just to be seen at intersections.</p>
<p>For the last ten years it’s just gotten warmer and warmer.</p>
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		<title>By: KathyinBlacksburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>KathyinBlacksburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yesterday, Brian Williams on Nightly News (NBC) spoke with an expert from NOAA, who claimed none of the unseasonal warmth is due to global warming.  It’s due to El Nino alone, said the expert.  Said Williams, “we’ll take your word for it.”  And that was that.  Only trouble is, the Bushies ousted those who believe in global warming.  99.99 respected scientists say global warming is a real problem.  Not the Bush administration and its agencies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, Brian Williams on Nightly News (NBC) spoke with an expert from NOAA, who claimed none of the unseasonal warmth is due to global warming.  It’s due to El Nino alone, said the expert.  Said Williams, “we’ll take your word for it.”  And that was that.  Only trouble is, the Bushies ousted those who believe in global warming.  99.99 respected scientists say global warming is a real problem.  Not the Bush administration and its agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: nikolai</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikolai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I live in Chandler, AZ which is in S.E. AZ in the Phoenix metropolitan valley. It just keeps getting hotter and hotter here, and the  population just keeps growing and growing. We basically have a 6 month spring and a 6 month summer, no cold weather really, to speak of. I dread what it will be like even 5 or 10 years from now, let alone 20 or 30 years. I plan on moving out of here when my job stabilizes. Albuquerque will have Phoenix’s climate in another 20 years or less. Flagstaff, here I come!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Chandler, AZ which is in S.E. AZ in the Phoenix metropolitan valley. It just keeps getting hotter and hotter here, and the  population just keeps growing and growing. We basically have a 6 month spring and a 6 month summer, no cold weather really, to speak of. I dread what it will be like even 5 or 10 years from now, let alone 20 or 30 years. I plan on moving out of here when my job stabilizes. Albuquerque will have Phoenix’s climate in another 20 years or less. Flagstaff, here I come!</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Wasserman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Wasserman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sigh. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 6 January 2007. The kids in shorts were out a couple daze ago. Oh, it’s gotten “colder” the last couple of daze. All the way (?!) down (?!) to 33F tonight. This is really a drag and scary. I miss winter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 6 January 2007. The kids in shorts were out a couple daze ago. Oh, it’s gotten “colder” the last couple of daze. All the way (?!) down (?!) to 33F tonight. This is really a drag and scary. I miss winter.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rayne 209&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Glad you’ve read Diamond’s “Collapse”.&lt;br /&gt;
Believe it or not, I haven’t actually read it yet, but heard plenty thru hubby who has, and at seminars and discussions (&amp; plan to get to it soon).&lt;br /&gt;
We both would also recommend “Guns, Germs &amp; Steel” by Diamond - very thought-provoking about factors affecting development &amp; survival or demise of civilizations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I only know what I read 3rd &amp; 4th hand about just how much fight Gore still has in him.  But I do know he certainly has improved his campaigning style tremendously.  No longer the wooden professional-dull-guy he was.  I honestly think he just might find it worth a shot.  He looks really energized and enthusiastic these days.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I sure like prospects of Gore as prez better than a varying crowd of wannabees who might not act so dedicated and honest, once in office.  Some (e.g., Biden) are so “slick” they’re just a chore even to see anywhere near a camera, even tho they’re brilliantly articulate compared to the currentpRezidentialoccupant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We all have our favorites, but I swear the Dems have such depth on their team, any one of a number of them would blow jr. &amp; all the rest-a the r’pugs right outta the water.  Even McCain is acting defeated before he’s begun, what with his Iraq stance splattered all over his face.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also have considerable faith at this point, in spite of my current spate of generalized doldrums, that the miraculous wonderment of blog growth like FDL’s will make a HEEEUUUGE difference in how any even marginally good candidates act in office, much less their chances for getting that far in the 1st place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Say bye bye to chances of jr.- &amp; bigtime-types being able to crawl into office under everyone’s radar quite so easily. *says she, crossing fingers*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for holding ma’hand for awhile.  The dialogue helps a lot.  We get sooo frustrated!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rayne 209</p>
<p>Glad you’ve read Diamond’s “Collapse”.<br />
Believe it or not, I haven’t actually read it yet, but heard plenty thru hubby who has, and at seminars and discussions (&amp; plan to get to it soon).<br />
We both would also recommend “Guns, Germs &amp; Steel” by Diamond &#8211; very thought-provoking about factors affecting development &amp; survival or demise of civilizations.</p>
<p>I only know what I read 3rd &amp; 4th hand about just how much fight Gore still has in him.  But I do know he certainly has improved his campaigning style tremendously.  No longer the wooden professional-dull-guy he was.  I honestly think he just might find it worth a shot.  He looks really energized and enthusiastic these days.</p>
<p>I sure like prospects of Gore as prez better than a varying crowd of wannabees who might not act so dedicated and honest, once in office.  Some (e.g., Biden) are so “slick” they’re just a chore even to see anywhere near a camera, even tho they’re brilliantly articulate compared to the currentpRezidentialoccupant.</p>
<p>We all have our favorites, but I swear the Dems have such depth on their team, any one of a number of them would blow jr. &amp; all the rest-a the r’pugs right outta the water.  Even McCain is acting defeated before he’s begun, what with his Iraq stance splattered all over his face.</p>
<p>I also have considerable faith at this point, in spite of my current spate of generalized doldrums, that the miraculous wonderment of blog growth like FDL’s will make a HEEEUUUGE difference in how any even marginally good candidates act in office, much less their chances for getting that far in the 1st place.</p>
<p>Say bye bye to chances of jr.- &amp; bigtime-types being able to crawl into office under everyone’s radar quite so easily. *says she, crossing fingers*</p>
<p>Thanks for holding ma’hand for awhile.  The dialogue helps a lot.  We get sooo frustrated!</p>
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