
As part of my ponderous thoughtful series on the language of a Democratic realignment leading up to the November elections, I said that a lot of seemingly disparate Republican rhetoric was actually part of a consistent strategy to maintain the GOP's image as the "daddy party":
When Bill Clinton teed off on Chris Wallace of Fox News several days ago, right-wing commentators were very quick and consistent in labeling the Big Dog's anger as "crazy," "unhinged," and "out of control" — language that Howard Dean probably remembers quite well. And it's no accident. Although the standard Republican narrative about Democrats is that we're weak, ineffectual, and indecisive, they perform an effortless backflip whenever one of us shows passion, claiming that we're full of unchecked rage.
They don't care if that seems contradictory. The main point, of which I guarantee they're all aware, is that a Democrat must never be allowed to be depicted as strong and self-confident — in short, as the kind of person who can provide order and fill the "daddy" role in the symbolic national family. Conversely, the perverse cult of personality that conservatives have developed around the Shrub-in-Chief is designed to create just such an aura of paternal leadership.
I was reminded of this when I read Digby yesterday, summarizing a column in the right-wing National Review on anger in politics:
You see, this "New Anger" is a cultural phenomenon pretty much confined to the left. Indeed, it was invented on the left (during the 60's, naturally.) And left wing bloggers are especially angry. . .
This "New Anger" is compared to an old Gary Cooper style of anger which was constrained and mature — much like the right is today, at least by comparison to the crazed left which is under the influence of Jimmy Hendrix, Jack Nicholson and "Return of the Jedi."
Sounds like an attempt to codify the distinction I was talking about between who's a fit daddy and who isn't, doesn't it?
And then there's this from Think Progress yesterday, quoting White House spokesliar Tony Snow as he tries to keep Dubya-as-wise-Daddy myth afloat in the face of an impertinent question:
Q The only question, though, to press a little bit, is the view that the President has been determined, he’s been resolved, and nobody questions that, but does he get it? I mean, is he fundamentally out of touch with what the reality is on the ground in Iraq?
MR. SNOW: No, I think what happens is, we may be out of touch with reality because we sit around and we look at fractional pictures on the screen. This is a President who gets exhaustive briefings on a daily basis about the situation. He knows more than anybody in this room about what’s going on there.
I've written before about this Bushite pretense that the hell they've created in Iraq is just a TV show, but I haven't seen it tied in so explicitly with the complementary pose of the Shrubster as a wise, omniscient father figure.
The absurdity of such spin after all this time shows us what the antidotes are: facing reality, appropriate derision of those who would rather live in a fantasy… and, above all, communicating to the broader public that they — we — are fully equipped to judge reality and determine the best response to it, rather than waiting for some Wizard of Oz-like daddy to tell us what to believe. Fortunately, we have these blog-like thingamabobs to demonstrate the concept by bringing facts to the table and getting the word out.



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Fitz!
Reality!
The authoritative craziness of the right knows no shame…
PAY AS YOU GO & FITZ!!
Slightly O/T….but Schumer is quoted as saying “People Across The Country Want Us To Go To Work For Them Again And That’s Just What We’re Going To Do.”
Gee, Chuck. CT Dems wanted you to go to work for us in November and you stuck a sharp stick in our eye. If your history is any indication of the future, we’re doomed!
I paid my $.07 and I want Cheney to go!!
Mommy’s in the House! Better clean up.
Oh the children – what a beautiful sight – Pelosi is about to take her oath of office – what a class act!
Reminds me of We Are The World….was that Michael Jackson??
I love the fact that James Sensenbrenner looks like a petulant, snivelling sore loser in every shot in which I have seen him today. tee hee
George W is a father figure — he’s an excellent example of the authoritarian alcoholic control freak abuser style of male parenting, and the lack of morals of his kids serve as a perfect testimonial to his mastery of a complete set of dysfunctional parenting skills.
Luckily for this nation, most of us grew up in functional homes without clueless shrew mothers or absent fathers. Hence we grow increasingly tired of the Bush family model of modern parenting, as the last election amply demonstrated.
Swopa — thank you so much for continuing this conversation. Love it — and love the continuing thought process on this.
He knows more than anybody in this room about what’s going on there.
Did he get the best score on the test?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 10
There is a reason for that. He IS ‘a petulant, snivelling sore loser’.
:)
ummm, just a reminder, she just swore ‘em in to be against all enemies of the Constitution, foreign and domestic.
Might be well to remind of ‘em of that from time to time.
Leahy/Levin live on C-SPAN2
btw, congratulations to everyone reading who helped to GOTV or contributed to campaigns or worked for candidates or sent letters to the editor or what-have-you. Thank you for all of your work. Isn’t it wonderful what you have been able to help the nation do today? :)
Harriet Miers has resigned as White House counsel. Here is a statement by Tony Snowjob via MSN news:
““Harriet is one of the most beloved people here at the White House,” Snow said, adding that she was a scrupulous lawyer who aggressively defended the Constitution.”
Well, either Tony is lying, or else Miers was completely ineffective in her job, because White House policy has consistently been to undermine rather than defend the Constitution.
It will be interesting to see if she is replaced with a stronger, meaner, “Daddy”-like figure more in keeping with the macho image the White House wants to project, especially in these days of Junior’s obvious failings.
“Fortunately, we have these blog-like thingamabobs to demonstrate the concept by bringing facts to the table and getting the word out.”
Just watch out for the big trucks racing around the toobz.
There comes a point in the developmental cycle of a child when he or she realizes that Father can be wrong. That’s when a healthy Father can’t simply say “Because I said so” but has to reason and persuade instead.
One of these days, the rightwingers and Bush may reach that point. Some of them are starting to get there, but there’s a lot of them that I won’t hold my breath waiting for.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 17
And hearty congratulations to you and Jane, without whom this day would be far less special!
link to Miers article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16470291/
mc @ 19
and watch out for the big shredding trucks racing around the WH and Cheney’s residence as well as Denny and company’s digs too.
Cieran @
11
Yes, and an old shrew mother (who, incidently, imagines looking at life through a dog’s perspective — small wonder), who picks up the phone to call Billy Graham when stonewalled by the fundamentalist “logic” of her re-born son.
It is, at least, interesting to think that she allowed for a broader conception of divine intent than her idiot boy; but it was always supposed that she was the brains of the operation. Actually, she might be considered to be the patriarchal figure in that family dynamic anyway.
Well, Harriet Miers has been launched via the Bush Ejector Button.
Now that Speaker Pelosi and the Dmocrats are in charge, I’m thinking that Bush realizes he’ll need actual legal advice now and not the doe-eye adualtion of a Kool-aid sotted sycophant.
So long Harriet, hello Ben Ginsberg.
-GSD
Sore losers of the day. What a bunch of wankers.
under the influence of Jimmy Hendrix, Jack Nicholson and “Return of the Jedi.”
Huh-whaaah?
I don’t know what to make of that. It’s not the “usual suspects”.
ThinkProgress – Touching tribute to Harriet Miers
Christy Hardin Smith @ 26
I saw that. Sadly, my dad walks around all day with a drip of right-wing radio. Thankfully he uses headphones, or I couldn’t have survived almost a week at my parents’ house over Christmas. But I hear the effect of it when Dad spouts about “socialism”.
He doesn’t blame me for my “leftist” views, though. He says I can’t help it because I live in a “college town”.
The authoritative personality (male) beats his children and blames them for the pain they are in. This type is so grossly immature they don’t understand the damage they inflict. Pushed far enough they will fall apart. As Bush falls apart I hope it is so complete that he can no longer hurt the country he ‘loves’. Authoritative personality = dilapidated and dangerous jerk. Evently, the stronger victims turn away and work against the bastard.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 26
Hey, they’re the ones who call themselves “Red State.”
In fact, given the site name, at first glance the screen shot looks like they’re celebrating.
Well in celebration of the day I did my donation .07 for justice and accountability and truthful reporting
Christy Hardin Smith @ 26
I vow to increase my response to accusations of being a socialist or communist with, that’s cute coming from a fascist.
Cujo359 @
13
Bush is one of those people that when forced to guess on a true/false question, goes with his gut and always guesses wrong.
Swopa @ 30
“Democrat(sic)-Socialists”? That’s the worst they can think of to label the new, duly elected Democratic majority in Congress?
Whatever happened to “terrorists”? They must be experiencing anger fatigue.
Swopa at 30 — hehehehe It matches the attitude that I saw from “Mr. RedState” at the CNN coverage. He began the evening stating that the GOP was going to hold the House and Senate both…and finished by being super surly, refusing to mingle with anyone but the neoconniest among the guests and scowling at folks around the room whenever possible.
I may disagree quite a bit with the philosophy and political viewpoints of Scott Johnson and Paul Mirengoff at Powerline, but they were good sports and congenial that evening. Political disagreements are to be expected when you see the world from a differing viewpoint — but you can discuss the finer points without being a wanker about it. At least, adults can do so, I suppose.
Off topic but,
Elinor Donohue was teh H0T babe. on father knows best and on the andy griffith show. how’d he ever wind up with helen crump?!
Christy @ 26, I think the site is called Red Scare now. Holy crap,are they truly going to start hunting for commies again? If I remember correctly that didn’t turn out so well last time.
Wankers is the nicest word I can think of.
When Speaker Pelosi(god I love that)brought all the kids up there with her was the best moment of the day so far.
Swopa at 30 — Forgot my favorite moment for him: his happiest moment of the evening was Joe Lieberman’s re-election. Talk about having a bad day…
Cujo359 @
13
Yeah, how come if he knows more than anybody in the room he consistently gets everything wrong? Time to apply the correct Democratic frame around this President’s war — every choice, every decision, every action taken has been WRONG. That’s why the American people don’t want W running this war no more.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 26
‘Disillusioned ’sunday libertarian’ trust-fund tottie seeks authoritarian one-party ruler to guide me out of personal responsibility.
Object: supply side spooning with a trickle down afterglow. Must despise those less fortunate than yourself for reminding you of your unearned circumstances.
Please smell of Hai Karate, and wear a yellow tie.’
;>)
we will loose thes thingamaboobs if we loose net neutrality
do not let this be forgotten
newspaperbrat @
21
… and huzzah for Swopa and all the thingamabobbettes!
Froomkin notices a short note regarding a Cheney dental vistit:
And steers us to this Telnas cartoon.
Heh
There is nothing, and I mean nothing, I dislike more than, as an adult, being patronized or PR’d, and or lectured. Especially by the Bush characters.
darkblack at 40 — OMG! You just made me spew my ginger tea.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This from Froomkin today:
“Q: I just want to ask one thing. Are you suggesting that ‘we may be out of touch with reality,’ do you mean ‘we’ the press corps, ‘we’ the American people — I mean, in other words, is the picture that’s emerging out of Iraq through reporting of the press corps there, does it not represent reality?
” MR. SNOW: I’m saying it’s absolutely impossible for any reporting to capture fully the complexity of the situation like that. It’s humanly impossible. . . . And the President has more time and has — gets far more information than what is going to be able to shove into even the best and most thoughtfully produced news story or television report.”
See, Bush, in addition to being the country’s “Daddy”, is also superhuman. We (the media, the Democrats, the public, even most Republicans) cannot handle the truth (sorry, Jack). For six years, Rove has skillfully manipulated the media to portray Bush as the superman who protects us all. To take away his power to wiretap, to torture, to wage war, and now to look at our mail, is to let the terrorists win.
Now with Grandma in charge of the House, will the new Congress strip away this facade?
jeffreyw @ 44
And steers us to this Telnas cartoon.
Heh
Perhaps having trouble removing some Saudi’s genitalia from his throat?
I remember all that stuff not too long ago about Bush being surrounded by all these
’strong women’. Like Hughes, etc. What to make of that? Are these so called strong female types (with of course the exception of Babs Sr.) just props?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 46
That’ll clear your sinuses!
OK at 49 — Yes. This has been another edition of simple answers to questions about simple presidents.
Now watching Barbara Boxer’s speech on CSpan 2 and admit I may be projecting but she seems so lack-luster – maybe her dear friend Leiberman isn’t present to hug and kiss and ham it up. Pelosi for President 2007!
The Republicans have to drop the “Democrats as terrorists” meme because now they have to work with us.
You know they supposedly hate negotiating with terrorists.
-GSD
mc at 12:01 p.m.
“” MR. SNOW: I’m saying it’s absolutely impossible for any reporting to capture fully the complexity of the situation like that.”
The problem with that statement is that when Snowjob thinks of “reporting,” he naturally thinks of Fox television “reporting,” which could not fully capture the complexity of a ham sandwich. I think we have a number of competent journalists who have done a good job of reporting the facts about the war in Iraq. They are just beyond Snowjob’s depth, so he can’t see it.
David Dreier (on C-SPAN now) is a card carrying member of Whine Club
mc says See, Bush, in addition to being the country’s “Daddy”, is also superhuman.
Maybe darkblack can come up with a “Super Bush” graphic with the right amount of snark. I’m really enjoying C-SPAN more than usual today.
David Dreier now whining about the new rules that the dems want to put in effect.
WATB.
MR. SNOW: No, I think what happens is, we may be out of touch with reality because we sit around and we look at fractional pictures on the screen. This is a President who gets exhaustive briefings on a daily basis about the situation. He knows more than anybody in this room about what’s going on there.
Wait a minute!! I thought that John Kerry and all Congressional Democrats saw exactly the same intelligence as he did when it came to Iraq!!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 49
Mommy surrogates with a sideline in fluffing that he can boss around.
Drier on the house floor in mid whine about minority protections. He says it amounts to “trust us”.
He says it is not much better than the process they had in place when they were in the majority.
Which was limned by Darth Cheney on the Senate floor, as I recall. Something he said to Leahy?
The Republicans own the GWOT and Iraq war. The democrats must try to fix something that for the most part cannot be fixed.
There is some whiner now speaking in the House saying that the Democrats aren’t fair: Promises were made but not kept. Wants to be bipartisan but gosh darn it, mean, mean Democrats.
Ot, but not really far off. According to Neurophius at 18: Harriet Miers has resigned as White House counsel. Here is a statement by Tony Snowjob via MSN news:
Then there was the announcement yesterday that Negroponte resigned his position of Director of National Intelligence to assume the role of Deputy Secretary of State? We haven’t seen much of Condi lately, either. Could it be that, due to her high poll numbers, they don’t want to get rid of her, so they will let her remain titular head of the State Dept. while Negroponte takes over all of her duties? I bet something is up. Seems like Bush is either purging the women from his admin, or they’re quitting him for causes that he doesn’t want revealed.
In the meanwhile, it seemed to me from Nancy’s Speech, that she essential issued a little ultimatum of her own. I guess if the President can tell the Congress what they must do, the Speaker feels free to also tell him what his responsibility is to the voters, as she reminds him who they all work for. I also loved the way she stressed “pay as you go…NO MORE DEFICIT SPENDING!” It should be a very interesting next few months, if all hell doesn’t break out sooner.
wow! Joe Scarborough compliments -without reservation – Speaker Pelosi…
RevDeb @ 56
Louis points out that the package of rules Drier so decries is actually the same one put in place by the Republicans last term! LOL
DirtyEffingHippie @ 58
Yes, but they didn’t get the exhaustive briefings – the ones with the pictures and the large type.
At some point, someone at Time needs to tell Wonkette Ana Marie Cox to speak more slowly on camera. There are times that I am having difficulty understanding her. Anyone else have that issue?
Lloyd Doggett from TX is kicking a**. November Revolution. . . spring cleaning starting early . . .
oh goody. The adults are back in charge.
” Seems like Bush is either purging the women from his admin, or they’re quitting him for causes that he doesn’t want revealed.”
Maybe they have just gotten sick to death of those sneak-up-from-behind “Merkel massages.”
OldCoastie @ 64
scarborugh has turned into a democrat, no kidding, before the election he said the politicians calling themselves republican were not
he called for a democratic win and I couldn’t believe it
I don’t know if I’m fooled by him or it’s genuine but I really think he’s a man of conviction
sorry ’bout that
RevDeb @ 57
Thanks for identifying him. He seems the walking definition of chutzpah. As the French would say it, “Quel culot!”
this ana marie cox… what is she, 14?
Me & my honey, we just sat together & watched the whole vote, then the whole speech.
snivelling lil’ gramma supposed to cry, eh?
HaHAH! Boehner was the one close to tears.
Pelosi’s speech and command on that podium was and IS d.y.n.o.m.i.t.e! I am so proud to have her Speaker!
Favorite moments:
Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s wonderful speech! Democrats’ absolute, but controlled, dignified J.O.Y and unity!
snip…
a coupl’a twins: aw heck, Boehner trying to fight the tears by nearly biting his tongue off & constantly fidgeting, poor baby… – couldn’t decide whether to send him a case of ora-gel, or gold bond fix-whatever-it-is powder. Blunt next to ‘im needed a babyblanket & pacifier.
repugs feeling obliged to stand & clap, repeatedly, during Madam Speaker’s superbly crafted speech, which made it utterly impossible for them to sit on their hands & sulk openly, wit da cameras goin’n all. la-tee-dah.
denny struggling to his feet upon receiving unexpected recognition from Madam Speaker for his -um- [grace?] in turning over the gavel (from the very back of the chamber??? via bumblingBoehner), then struggling to button his suit-coat & discovering, too late, that the spread tw’ button & buttonhole spanned a good 5″, give or take. dignified exit, considering…. I mean, he could have tried to give a speech, & really cried…
all-in-all, a delightful spectacle, and definitely some interesting times to come. ;->
Rep Doggett from Texas seems pissed at the ex-majority.
perris at 70 — for all of his many faults, Scarborough is a fiscal conservative and somewhat of a social one — but not of the neocon/Jerry Falwell mold. He’s more of a pragmatist, and I think the extremes that the GOP has gone to the last 10 years or so have been fairly repugnant to most of those sorts that I know here and elsewhere.
perris – I’m starting to get the feeling that scarborough is genuinely disgusted with all that’s gone on… Democrat? I don’t think so – he is still brutally conservative, but I do think he might be a real person with a few morals still intact.
that I can live with…
perris @ 70
yeah, a man with the conviction that Keith Olbermann’s ratings are quite lovely.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 75
ya, I get that from him, he’s a man of his own principle not a man of his own party, in the past his principles seemd served by republicans, he’s realized that is not the case
The more I hear the repugs whine about the new rules package, the more I like it.
I think Scarborough has shown some degree of good sense in recent months. We’ll have to wait and see how far he goes with it.
Christy Hardin Smith @
67
I’ve only seen Cox on TV a couple of times. She gave a talk about the toobz about 20 months ago where she ran the words out of her mouth faster than she could finish saying them. After a while I found it disturbing. Where’s she on TV now?
LindaR @ 77
he’s not punnsihing them enough to think he’s gonna get olberman numbers
LindaR @ 77
And wants to keep Keith’s viewers from changing the channel when he starts his program. He’s no dummy.
Let’s have a show of hands in America of everyone who believes that Bush knows more than anybody about what’s going on anywhere. Anyone? Even the Bush family doesn’t believe that.
jeffreyw @ 78
Same here. They’re all a bunch of Liebermans.
msnbc sure has done a much better job of political coverage than cnn… they switched over to some sensationalized diet drug story just as soon as possible…
obviously, clueless as to today’s historic significance…
Ed*ard — she was just on MSNBC. She’s off now. It was unnervingly fast speech. I completely understand nervousness on camera — I have had to fight it when I’ve done stuff — but someone needs to give her a hand and tell her to slow it down just a bit. I thought maybe it was just me — but I guess others have noticed the same thing.
Badwater @ 84
As long as he has Barney and Laura, he doesn’t give two shites. Not so sure he still has Laura . . .
Hugh @ 71
ahem…quel encule. (accent on the last vowel)
I missed the C-SPAN coverage of Congress but am looking forward to Olbermann tonight–and, who knows, perhaps even Scarborough.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 66
too much “ummm”… I almost expect her to snap her gum next… she’s just wrecking her own gravitas…
OldCoastie at 91 — I fight that “ummm” issue myself when I’m nervous, so I’m sympathetic to that. I’m much less nervous on radio — less visual pressure. *g*
Hey Christy did you and Jane get the email I sent you yesterday about the Libby trial podcasting idea?
It’s Tom Price’s time to
shinewhine…perris @ 69
Joe isn’t the brightest tool in the MSNBC galaxy and a shameless opportunist who knows he is in the shadow of KO. Just saying’ – don’t get your hopes too high he has undergone a genuine transformation though I sincerely hope he is waking up.
hey firedogs -
a little work bloggety-bloggety-boo !
surprised to find myself crying watching Speaker Pelosi take that gavel
oh, and sent this to the kidz @ redass state*g*
http://mirukashihime.cool.ne.jp/sound/int-REDS.wav
Can we send all the Dems tiny violins so they can get them out every time the Goopers whine?
Virgil Goode’s office is “vandalized.” You must see the picture.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 91
I’ve only heard you once on the tv and I sure didn’t notice that… it was significantly obvious with ana marie…
she needs a coach…
neurophius @ 18
“…against any of the wear and tear that can come from day-to-day use.”
twolf1 @ 97
Maybe we need to have a new crop of rubber stamps made up and delivered:
Republican WATB
President of Whine Club, Patrick McHenry, on C-SPAN now
punaise @ 89
That too.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 67
I am actually pleased to have her go by in a blur. Perhaps her lack of media savvy will shorten her on-air fame.
EvilDrPuma @ 100
now available in two-ply.
RevDeb @
98
WAY TOO FUNNY!
perris @ 70
His turn started with Katrina…
good to see some maturation
like a good novel, character development
Hugh @ 71
Correction: It’s “not-gay” California Congressman David Dreier.
Oh, hey! It’s Jennifer Palmieri on TV. I didn’t realize she was working with the Edwards’ campaign again.
RevDeb @ 98
Nicely done. Simple and direct.
TeddySanFran @ 108
I stand corrected. Is that the moniker you wish for us to use?
So anyway what was Cox saying?
Fini at 93 — I did — but I haven’t had a chance to look at it just yet. Am trying to run around and get laundry done and packing done for vacation. Sorry — will try to get to it at some point between laundry, packing, and prepping posts for while I’m gone.
EvilDrPuma @ 100
The boy king said it was just a piece of paper and his actions show that he believes that. He is just a continual fountain of proud moments for Republicans.
twolf1 @ 101
He waves Pelosi’s bill of minority right, asks for its passage.
I say we should give it the same due consideration Hastert gave it, it’s only fair.
RevDeb @ 98
I am opposed to vandalism but wow is that funny.
Jeb Hensarling eating a stack of waaaahhmburgers on C-SPAN
Minority is shocked, shocked, that the majority is acting in the interest of the country.
I hope you have a FABULOUS vacation Christy.
Very much deserved.
Get rested up so you can come back swinging and keep us all enthralled with your peerless coverage of the Scooter trial.
/ kissup.
*g*
Badwater @ 114
It was reported that he said that, but Capitol Hill Blue has a remarkable record of distilling the completely plausible into a story I don’t actually believe for a second.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 109
Christy, here’s Cillizza’s Inner Circle blog about Edwards’ team.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 113
Cool, just wanted to draw your attention to it. When you get a chance, let me know what you think.
Marty Meehan says it’s time to clean up the congress. We’re doing that, and the thugs who are now out are pissed. Starting today, fuck them.
Teddy at 121 — Thanks much — I spent time talking with her at YKos — we ganged up on Mudcat Saunders at the bar one evening. *g* Very sharp talking about internal political swirlings, and I enjoyed talking with her.
Dreier awarded The Roy Cohn Award (recognizing David’s 24 years of opposition to gay and lesbian rights while living as a gay man) by Mike Rogers, formerly of NGLTF.
Speaking of WATB…
Critic maintains control of Lieberman’s party
Oh yay — Arianna is on MSNBC now.
TeddySanFran @ 116
It’s not
braggingvandalism if it’s true.And Scarborough, methinks he’s one Republican who’s more loyal to the country than the party.
Joe Scar and Arianna on MSNBC right now
Phil Gingry of Geeorja says we woulda not did it if only the dems had some balls, and is pissed that they seem to have some now, WTF?
You know one of the great words I learned from Jane here at fdl was “pecksniffery”. It describes beautifully most of what we are hearing from House Republicans today.
President Bush plans to nominate U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad to replace John Bolton as the new U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, according to ABC News.
And like a good daddy, the republicans believe that once others in the family get hysterical (wife, children, democrats) the daddy has good reason to hit them. For their own good. It’s not abuse; it’s good daddy values.
jacqrat, other stories I’ve seen about Orman indicate that he’s got a 2012 ballot line for the party, due to the SecState’s recognition. This means that RGJoe could have a primary challenge within his eponymous party, should he seek re-election. Longtime away, but much fun ensuing. Orman’s said he’ll be a watchdog on Lieberman, and that anyone who’s a critic of Lieberman can join. I’m hoping he’ll have an auxiliary non-Nutmegger membership category!
TeddySanFran @ 134
Yes, I’ve been following this story since it broke. Gotta love the brains and balls on this guy. TOO funny for words!
Like the kid says, HA-HA!
A reflection on the swearing-in ceremony.
I went home for lunch so I could catch it on CNN. Mrs BC and Cadet BC were there. Cadet BC started mocking the goings-on. It was nothing serious, just the usual 22 year cynical posing. Mrs. BC verbally slapped him down pretty hard.
I realized what a sea-change there has been. When I graduated from HS, women were told they were free to be anything they wanted to be. Oh, it will help if what you want to be is chosen from this list: teacher, nurse, office help (secretary, admin ass’t, etc). Mrs BC started in college working on an engineering degree. She was told in her first meeting with her advisor, “…women don’t major in engineering. You’ll be at best a C student. Find something else.” So she did.
Today was very important to her. It was important to me, too, because we’ve taken back the People’s House. It’s step one in taking back our country from the plutocratic fascists currently controlling things. But while it was important to my love for that reason, it was important to her in a way beyond what it was for me. A woman took hold of the part of the reins of political power today.
Our son lacks the perspective to understand that. For him, Title IX has always existed. Women have always been doctors, lawyers and indian chiefs for him. So we have woman Speaker, he’s just glad she’s a Democrat in both the Big D and little d senses.
I tried to help him understand why it’s also a big deal that it’s Madame Speaker. Dunno if I succeeded or not.
Hooray for us!
BC
Jacqrat @ 135
Forgive my ignorance but can the CT voters recall Joe-Ho?
This is the most hilarious quote I’ve seen in years.
Courtesy of Liz at Blondesense.
http://blondesense.blogspot.com/
Scarborough and New Republic guy praising Pelosi’s speech
jeffreyw @ 123
I love this quote from rengal as he threw cheney on his but our of office, man this is sweet;
Arianna.
twolf1 @ 132
Anybody but RGJoe
Jerry McNerney up on CSPAN!
I like Marty Meehan!!! I think this guy could be a star.
newspaperbrat @
21
You know, I really don’t think this day would have happened at all without Jane, Christy, and Howie.
And Howard Dean.
My God, isn’t Zal Khalilzad a Muslim? Wonder if Virgil Goode is going to shit a pickle.
-GSD
I have no interest in vengeance or payback. I want accountability and justice.
HotFlash @ 145
took the words right out of my mouth, we gave voice, we gave meaning, we gave chapter and verse to the democrats and I have no doubt not nearly the number of democrats would have won if not for the blogs, bloggee’s, blogettes and especially firedogs
Oklahoma kiddo @ 144
Not so much. He is sitting on $3 or 4 mil. war chest and would not ante up for Bowers’ Use it or Lose it campaign.
He thinks he’s gonna be a senator. I don’t. Some of us will have long memories.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 147
and what was taken from us returned, that stolen from the middle class and given to the wealthy returned, that taken from the constitution restored
and my grand kids future bright once more
Jacqrat @ 126
Looks like I guessed right that Orman was involved. Good for him.
OldCoastie @ 86
They still haven’t figured out that they need to stop competing with Fox if they want to stay in the game. Slow learners.
RevDeb @ 97
A so tastefully done.
Just like a bad penny, John Bolton turns up in some interesting places.
RevDeb @ 98
Sweet
RevDeb @ 149
I did not know this. ;)
Tucker Carlson trying to diss Pelosi while claiming he has nothing against women.
neurophius @ 157
I’m prepared to believe that Tucker Carlson has never had anything against a woman.
Bill Press calls Tucker a misogynist on MSNBC to his face.
Shorter Tucker Carlson: It’s the swarthy-people’s fault~! (except when it’s the wimmin’s fault!)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 156
You aren’t expected to. He’s from my state so I try to pay attention and let everyone else know. That’s why we are all in this together. To share “our experience, strength, and hope.”
EvilDrPuma @ 158
ROTFLMAO
People still watch Tucker Carlson?
I did not know he was still on the teevee! ;/
Oklahoma kiddo @ 147
Accountabiity and justice – especially poetic justice. i.e. witnessing Speaker Nancy Pelosi dazzling the entire chamber this morning. ;.)
RevDeb @ 162
Or a man, BABEEE!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 159
This day just gets better & better!
jeffreyw @
44
And steers us to this Telnas cartoon.
Heh
Like all those doctor visits on “The Sopranos?”
newspaperbrat @ 166
The only way to improve on that would have been for Jon Stewart to say it.
GSD @ 146
Also good to remember that Khalilzad an early member of the neocon Project for the New American Century. Fred Kagan from the AEI directing Bush’s surge. Khalilzad at the UN. Who says that the neocons are dead and gone?
ABC news: BUSH CHOOSES ADM. WILLIAM J. FALLON TO REPLACE GEN. JOHN ABIZAID; DAVID PETRAEUS FOR GEN. GEORGE CASEY, ABC NEWS HAS LEARNED
-sorry for all caps, cut-n-paste easier than retype
EvilDrPuma @ 168
Oh that legendary smackdown is one of my favorite TV moments ever.
I would like to observe some Bush Administration ass kicked. With subpoenas, hearings, inquiries, trials, pleas, and… jail. And I think we will see it.
twolf1 @ 170
think he found some military personel that agree with his bizarre “strategy”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 144
RevDeb @ 149
Oklahoma kiddo @ 156
RevDeb @
161
We are indeed in this together, neighbor. FDL is the back fence where we find out what’s really going on anywhere, and from our neighbours, not the media.
I grew up in a newspaper family and know what it it like from the inside. I also was involved in a very few ‘newsworthy’ events. None of them were even recognizable from the media accounts. Now I ask around to find out what is the truth.
perris @ 173
Tomorrow, he will appoint Capt’n Crunch.
Tucker seems to be suggesting that the Democrats should replace Sen. Tim Johnson because of his health.
Webb live on CNN
Oklahoma kiddo @ 172
the script is set, the president used his signing statement to usurp congress and our constitution
the democrats have to make their position IMMEDIATELY, no waiting around
twolf1 @ 175
That’s
Adm’r’l Crunch. Bush rewards loyalty.
twolf1 @ 175
Reporting to General Mills, I presume?
“Reporting to General Mills, I presume?”
Punaise. Sounds like a challenge.
Regarding Cheney’s dental: Didn’t Tony Soprano hold meet ups at his doctors too?
Sen. Webb seems to have a bit of an “uh” problem. A bit distracting from his important message.
Hastert allowed innocent children to be abused by Foley for years all in the name of Republican control. 3000 plus brave soldiers allowed to die based on White House lies and GOP rubber stamp while our then Speaker did nothing but collect his blood money even the stolen money from the Iraq people. The Speaker was a man who others followed his lead of corruption crimes and lack of morals and family values. Americans voted for change from that type of leadership. Pelosi has alot of work to do by cleaning the swamp of filth. So paid journalist like David Brooks and Chris Matthews are still hanging in this with the spin lies and poison pen with hopes of bringing back the corruption and criminals back to power. Oh Brooks/Matthews could care less about our soldiers dying so sad.
twolf1 @
175
and don’t forget Gen. Cherry and Adm. Pickins.
ccmask @ 182
maybe he’s afraid if he’s thrown out of office the new health care wouldn’t cover his work so he’s getting it done as soon as possible
It is interesting watching the dems now running the House chamber. it is quite obvious that they haven’t been able to for a long time as they have to keep asking the parliamentarian what the correct steps and responses are. The repigs got to know it all in their sleep and at our expense.
I had to turn the channel when that putz Tucker said “I don’t care what her gender is…”
Well I DO! and how disrespectful is that? Would he have said that of the first black person ever to be in some high office? No.
ccmask @ 182
excellent catch.
Ed*ard Teller @ 56
Oh, the thinks you can think
;>)
Tucker is absolutely losing it. Reminds me why I don’t/won’t watch him.
perris @ 178
You heard the latest? In a signing statement Dec 20th, Bush claimed the right to open our mail. When will someone in the MSM get around to asking how long has Bush worked for the KGB/FSB?
I was hoping Pelosi would lift a crucifix toward the Republican side….demons.
twolf1 @ 170
Petraeus is a supporter of escalation. He will have to work with the new corps commander Odierno who isn’t. Fallon is a strange choice. I wonder how army commanders who are bearing most of the brunt of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will like being commanded by an admiral.
Capt’n Crunch. And General Mills. I love it!
Tucker Carlson is being a total Wanker. He is attacking Nancy for being a woman, Bill Press is defending her and the asshole on the other side of him is attacking her for being a democrat. A good case of the fringe attacking the middle.
Tucker Carlson should be attacked for being a woman. He is so bitchy and feminine. At least when he had the bowtie and blue suits you knew he was a freakish male.
neurophius @ 183
In all fairness it is his first day and his “uh” problem may reflect respect and newbie caution.
neurophius @ 176
This is the total stupidity of the so called pundit class, first the know NOTHING about the actual workings of our government and YOU cant vote them out.
Did they DEMAND Spector step down during his cancer treatment or his surgery? Or any other ReThug when they were off on medical leave?
No only because Sen. Johnson is a Dem and the balance of power is at the stake.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 192
congress can and MUST make a statement NOW, on THAT signing statement
I think this takes a roots project, this is VERY IMPORTANT, I think the new majority MUST spread their wings so our constitution can rise, replenish, renew
our constitution has been laid on the ground to be walked on by those in office and she waits for us to do what needs be done
RESTORE OUR CONSTITUTION, I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK
I wonder how Karl, Dickster, and George, (in order of importance) are liking it.
I, for one, am Shocked, SHOCKED, that a quick-fix weight loss pill huckstered by Miss Anna Nicole Smith has been found to be a fraud!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 201
I saw Darth Cheney on CNN over the lunch hour in the Senate Chambers. Judging from the dyspeptic smile on his face, I’d say, not so much.
Curious George is busy trying to find a way to grope Angela Merkel, so I doubt his handlers have even told him something important happened today.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 201
man, I can’t get enough of this thread, it’s like a buffet with food too good to resist
what a great thought right there ok
are they together?
are they “stratagizing”?
do they blame rove for the most brutally embarrassing defeat in American political history?
Who is that dickhead that is whiplashihg the dem between them(Tucker>dem>dickhead)
Repug talking head on Tucker discussing the Democrats’ “fundamental weakness” in its position on Iraq. Tucker emphasizing how “far left” Pelosi is. Bill Press doing his best to counter them.
John Murtha coming up soon on CNN – always a pleasure to watch him shock and awe little Wolfie.
katymine @ 199
Not to mention that by state law, the Democrats aren’t the ones who would get to replace him. It would be a Republican governor who does that, at least until they can hold an election.
newspaperbrat @ 207
he’s going to DE fund the war
watch the Wurlitzer go nutzo on Murtha with the most zeal in the entire 6 years
Cujo359 @ 208
Not to mention that by state law, the Democrats aren’t the ones who would get to replace him. It would be a Republican governor who does that, at least until they can hold an election.
It’s possible that Fucker Carlson knows that, but this way he can play innocent and nonpartisan. It’s equally likely, of course, that he’s an idiot.
“congress can and MUST make a statement NOW, on THAT signing statement”
I wrote to my new Democratic Congresswoman yesterday emphasizing the importance of countering Bush’s “whining statements.” I hope others do the same. This would be a good place for Democrats to begin restoring oversight and the balance of power.
@CNN – The head of the U.S. nuclear weapons program is leaving his job because of security breakdowns at weapons facilities, The Associated Press reports.
Lots of job shuffling today.
It’s a toss up for me:
“Tucker” or “Wolf”. You can’t make that shit up.
neurophius @ 211
me too, but I think we need a movement that demonstrates just how important those signing statements are to us
HotFlash @ 174
Oh god, I’m quoting myself, but this follows so its (sorta) not O/T.
Not only are *we* in this together, but our congresscritters are. I mean, what with committees and sponsoring bills and all, a given congresscritter can *hugely* affect what is happening in a constituency not her/his own. For instance, I supported Jerry McNeirney because those are MY parks that Richard Pombo wanted to drill in and lumber out. However, we citizens do not have the same input to all of them. Many of them have screening gizmos that only allow input from the ‘correct’ zip or area code.
I ran into this when trying to communicate with members of the Senate Armed Svcs Committee (re the MCA of 2006). E-mail forms on their websites wouldn’t accept my e-mail or I’d get a note back saying, “Senator Clinton cannot respond to enquiries from persons who are not her constituents,” even though I’d flagged my message “in your capacity as member of the Armed Svcs Committee” and she can sure make decisions that affect the hell out of me.
To be fair, the committee webpages give snail-mail addresses, so presumably one could contact members at the Committee office, but snail-mail takes 3-5 weeks to get through (time to be sniffed for threats, I assume), which is *not fast enough*.
Any ideas on how I should be communicating with these folks? Do I do it through my own rep (hardy-har-har, I’m sure Candice Miller will pass my suggestions right along), or by fax, or ask Lake folks who live in the area to send a nice note or what?
Wouldn’t it be nice if committee members who make decisions that affect all of us citizens had an e-mail addy where any citizen could send them questions, feedback or just cheer them on?
Tucker—Can’t imagine why anybody would care about his opinion regarding ANYTHING–is there anything that he has KNOWLEDGE about? Dancing perhaps?
Tim @ 213
Might want to Stick with Tucker until Donna Brazille’s time is up on Wolfie if he can ever get her to just STFU.
GSD @
146
Khalilzad’s Pashtoun dad was Sunni, his mom, Shia. His mom was forced into marriage at 12 and was illiterate. When he was an undergrad at the American University of Beirut, he met Cheryl Benard, the daughter of an American military officer and an Austrian woman. Khalilzad and Benard’s kids are named Maxamilian and Alexander.
I don’t remember seeing any references to his family’s current religious practices or beliefs. He’s always struck me as the most fascinating neoCon. Doug Feith “the dumbest fuck in the world,” beat him out for DoD undesecretary of the OSP because Rummy thought Khalilzad smiled too much.
perris @ 214
I actually believe some republicans will go along with a censure, they don’t want democrats making signing statements and they surely believe a democrat can win office in 08
they might be mroe then happy to throw the president under the bus for the sake of their own office and the fear of a demoratic president
How bizarre. Sen. Clinton, with Bill at her side, being sworn in by Cheney.
neurophius @ 220
Ironic, innit–the oathbreakers giving the oaths.
Piss on Tucker. Buzz Lightyear is on. More revelence anyways.
I would gladly participate in a netroots action on signing statements.
Tucker is a misogynist. If there is a woman around he is putting her down and criticizing her. His wife has given birth to 89 kids and my guess is that someday she will leave that marriage.
Tucker is such a maroon – he just said the Toyota Prius was from Honda.
The signing statements are a real problem. The thing is, there really isnt anything Congress can do about them, which is what is so insidious about them. What these statements do is an evil genius kind of thing. When he signs a statement into the Federal Register to accompany whatever bill has been passed and signed into law by Bush, his statement at the time he is signing the legislation is his interpretation of the law and his instructions to the Federal bureaucracy of how to enforce the law. Since Bush controls the bureaucracy and sets their rules, he gets away with this with no possible recourse from Congress. Unless maybe they put a check or limit on the use of signing statements, which of course could be diluted with a signing statement…sigh.
LOL Bill Press just described the proposed Iraq escalation as the “McCain surge.”
What can congress do about signing statements? I don’t think it would be constitutional to pass a law preventing Clusterfuck from writing and signing the damned things- the issue is whether or not they are legally significant- and that will be up to the courts to decide…
They could take up a case where Clusterfuck deliberately misinterpreted the law and then broke it- that would provide a good showcase for the significance of his “signing statement”.
EvilDrPuma @ 210
It’s possible that Fucker Carlson knows that, but this way he can play innocent and nonpartisan. It’s equally likely, of course, that he’s an idiot.
The right wing media is already picking on the democrats every chance they get. They know how the system works regarding Johnson. As long as Johnson is breathing we’re keeping him. They never called out Specter (or the other R who got cancer more recently) in this way.
Today’s media represents mega corporations determined to maintain monopolies, control labor and wages, and avoid paying for health care and taxes. Tucker is one of many of their high dollar propaganda wh*res.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 225
they CAN do something about them, the president has unilaterally overwritten congressional law and there are procedures that MUST be threatened and it has to be made CLEAR his signing statements hold NO quarter
GW Clusterfuck planning surge-ery.
Ed*ard Teller @ 218
ET, you got DA BEST grapevine.
Jack Cafferty now up on da Wolfe – Murtha should be coming up soon.
rwcole @ 227
Of course it would also depend whether it came up before one of the wingnut judges that he has managed to appoint.
rwcole @ 227
I’m thinking that Congress should exercise close oversight of the laws Bush says he doesn’t have to obey, to see whether in fact he breaks any of those laws. Then perhaps some court action–or censure or impeachment–would be appropriate. Maybe one of the committees should hold hearings on this issue–bring in the bureaucrats and asking whether the signing statements are affecting the way they carry out their governmental functions.
HotFlash at #232,
thanks! Just don’t ask me any Thomas Jefferson questions….
Dancer—Yeah- I suppose so.
He cannot be attacked for writing and signing the “signing statement”- and he has a lot of latitude in terms of what laws he chooses to enforce and how..
The best “test case” would involve him actively breaking a law of congress based on his “signing statement” but who would bring the charges? Congress can’t.. It’s a pretty tough row to hoe.
Tucker is an angry little shrew. I wouldn’t give that little shrew ratings or attention anymore than FOX. If you have a box (tivo or other) on top of your TV, you are giving him a raise by watching him. fwiw
neuro
Congress doesn’t have it’s own army or police force- in the end it has no power beyond the purse- so in the event of a pissing contest- that’s where it has to come down.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 238
Can he be retired for being a bad dancer?
One reason I’ll be glad when Congress makes Bush end the singing statements is that the name of them is so hard to type — oops, I did it again!
Barnacle via Tweety doing a focus piece on Jim Webb now.
Sphincter Specter on c-span 2 now sending to the Courts electronic surveilance laws. Patty Murray looks pretty fine up on the bench!
rwcole-
I guess the only answer would be impeachment. At one point in history oathbreaking(to faithfully execute the law) was considered one of the worst crimes.
On Hardball Webb notes that on average CEO’s make 400 times what workers do. That’s obscene. It’s Republican pornography.
Been listening to the cspan call ins during the house votes, an am struck at how little many of the callers seem to understand the actual workings of the place.
One woman was wondering where Pelosi was, didn’t she have a job to do?
Another fellow worried that many of the seats were empty.
I wonder if it may be a better use of the time during votes to have someone answer some of the process questions, rather than to let some caller blather on and on.
neurophius @ 235
he’s already broken those laws, it’s in today’s news, he opens our mail with no oversite
forget court action, supreme court is on his side, right from the very start they have to tell him overwritting their law is going to get him impeached and his “signing statments” do NOT give him ANY right disibey the law that they write
RIGHT FROM THE VERY START they tell him he CANNOT overwrite their law
Webb looks mighty fine with that Senate pin on his lapel.
So, perris, what do you think we should do?
Helpless Dancer @ 244
For good reason. In the absence of any meaningful form of criminal forensics, what else were you going to go by than somebody’s word? If a person was known to have broken an oath, it was as good as saying that he literally could not be trusted for anything.
Thanks Swopa, bullseye, as per usual.
OfT
A Tale of Two Conspiracies
by emptywheel
It compares evidence against Padilla to evidence against Scooter.
What a happy day! Skimming through FDL (was out most of the day) and just now, hearing Speaker Pelosi on the radio .
and seconding the above commenters who say Jane and Christy and all the other Firedogs can claim a good part of the credit.
BTW – love that “Schadenfreude Pie” from the thread below!
I insist on taking the optimistic point of view today – we’re going to shut out the Rethugs and repair the worst of the damage they’ve done in the last 6 years, starting RIGHT NOW!
Hoo-yah!
Is Webb presidential or VP timber?
Murtha up next on Wolfie at CNN.
Murtha on now
Oklahoma kiddo @ 252
I would say presidential. He has the resume. Plus the fact that they don’t hand out Navy Crosses for just nothing. I would just love to see them try to swiftboat him.
Bottom line: I want my party to stop the Iraq war and to restart the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. Among other things.
Looking at Murtha now.
Murtha putting the onus on Bush to consult with Congress, not vice versa.
Helpless Dancer @ 256
I think you’re right.
Murtha.
neurophius @ 249
I think everyone with a blog should get all of there readers to start the faxing and emailing
we need to show indignation and we need to let the new politicians know this is what we put them in office for
this specifically, protecting our constitution
I would like everyone to put it into the terms that strike home;
“I don’t want government officials to have the ability to steal my bussiness secrets or my personal secrets, when they need to check my mail I want them to have proven there was a need for that information”
I don’t need them to get the warrant before they open the mail, they can get the warrant after they open it, I want a strong national security, but I want whatever they look at checked to make sure they aren’t taken information for their own personal purpose”
I agree, perris.
Do you (or anyone) have a link on the mail opening signing statement story? I have not seen it anywhere but here so far.
CNN: Rehnquist was addicted to pain killers, and experienced hallucinations.
Such as, thinking the law favored the plaintiffs in Bush v. Gore?
$2,000,000,000 a week to do what we’re doing in Iraq… Wolf. ‘Staggaring’ doesn’t quite get it.
neurophius @ 263
I can think of about four other justices he must have been supplying.
neurophius @ 262
raw story is hosting it
http://rawstory.com/showoutart…..8789c.html
they reprinted from the daily news washington
neurophius @ 263
Perhaps this is a Bush ‘problem also? Is our prez self-medicating himself or are his enablers doing it for him? Or both?
CNN – Bush Sr. had hip replacement
Biden on MTP with Huckleberry this Sunday.
twolf1 @ 267
Poor Old Poppy – interesting timing donchatink?
TeddySanFran @ 269
If Biden spent half the time legislatin’ that he spends whorin’…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 267
dude’s a tweaker.
look at his teeth.
just sayin’
newspaperbrat @ 270
He needed a break from the crying jags anyway.
new thread upstairs.
EvilDrPuma @ 270
Thanks for the warning Teddy. Can’t abide Biden. Just something about plagarists and blindingly white teeth.
RIP Jane Wyatt.
Right-wing anger “constrained and mature”???
Over 99 percent of the terrorist mailings inside the United States of “powder” sent in envelopes over the past 5 years have been by “constrained and mature” Republicans.
Just look at who have been the recipients of these terrorist letters, Democratic Party politicians and organizations associated with the Democratic Party.
Hey, I’d love to be proven wrong.
So, AG Alberto Gonzales, release all the information the FBI has involving the hundreds of thousands of terrorist letters mailed over the past 5 years.
I just bet, even without a return address or specifically knowing the terrorist responsible, that one will be able to determine, based on who was targetted, what the party affiliation is of the person responsible for the terrorist mailing, or mailings.
This is my challenge to the new Democratic Congress. Get Gonzales before one of your investigative committees and demand that he provide FBI data on the huge number of terrorist mailings perpetrated inside the United States over the past 5 years. I doubt if Gonzales would honor the request because the information revealed would be so damning of the Republican Party.
Helpless Dancer @
256
His book “Born Fighting” is a pretty clear indication that he’s on a very ambitious mission to rescue this country from the forces of King George III (or is it 43?).
I think that the GOP, and its handmaidens in the corporate press, are simply not ready for the likes of Webb. The next six years should be fun to watch.