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		<title>By: GordonM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GordonM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1) I think 14 years was a very good time frame for copyrights. Those guys got an amazing amount of stuff right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) WTO and trade agreements are imposing even more draconian IP laws than we have domestically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3) While we’re on IP, patent law needs reform maybe even more desparately than copyright. Used to be a way to reward people for risky R&D; now it’s just a way for lawyers and corps to get rich while stifling progress and doing no work. Software? Genomes? Give me an effin break.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) I think 14 years was a very good time frame for copyrights. Those guys got an amazing amount of stuff right.</p>
<p>2) WTO and trade agreements are imposing even more draconian IP laws than we have domestically.</p>
<p>3) While we’re on IP, patent law needs reform maybe even more desparately than copyright. Used to be a way to reward people for risky R&amp;D; now it’s just a way for lawyers and corps to get rich while stifling progress and doing no work. Software? Genomes? Give me an effin break.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/mickey-mouse-crisis/#comment-443183</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-443156&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cujo359 @ 99&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-443149&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;readerOfTeaLeaves @ 92&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Yes, that’s true, I think, although I wonders sometimes if there might not be a way to send some copies of the “unwanted” volumes to a central facility that can inter-library-loan them out to libraries that need them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it must be tough for librarians. Other than ten year old computer books, there aren’t a lot of no-brainers in the process of reducing inventory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s one reason the Internet is so wonderful… there needs to be some way for things to pass OUT of copyright, be scanned, and then at least storage can happen online.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) is the least-well-funded agency in US government — and that’s saying something these days!  In southern states, they have to figure out how to keep those delicate maps and archived stuff de-humidified.   NARA and many archives have been at the forefront of storage media decisions, in large part because they are charged with preserving fragile materials across a very wide range of temperature and humidity .  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archives.gov/index.html&quot;&gt;http://www.archives.gov/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Storage is a hugely expensive proposition, and retrieval is another whole huge problem — you can’t let JUST ANYONE go get Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Quran out of the old archives… ;-) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Internet is our best hope.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;With respect to 10-year-old computer books… I had to listen to a very distressed banker a couple years back (after 2000, actually).  He needed COBAL programmers, b/c his core, most valuable stuff was written in COBAL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, I myself do not haunt the COBAL shelves, but I would think that language hasn’t altered too much in ten years…? So the lifecycle of a book may be more or less than 10 years. I’d venture a guess that any Ruby On Rails pubs go out of date in under 24 months, although it’s not something I spend any time on myself ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But even with Open Source codes, authors deserve to be compensated if they create a manual.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-443156"><em>Cujo359 @ 99</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-443149"><em>readerOfTeaLeaves @ 92</em></a></p>
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<p>Yes, that’s true, I think, although I wonders sometimes if there might not be a way to send some copies of the “unwanted” volumes to a central facility that can inter-library-loan them out to libraries that need them.</p>
<p>I think it must be tough for librarians. Other than ten year old computer books, there aren’t a lot of no-brainers in the process of reducing inventory.</p>
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<p>That’s one reason the Internet is so wonderful… there needs to be some way for things to pass OUT of copyright, be scanned, and then at least storage can happen online.</p>
<p>NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) is the least-well-funded agency in US government — and that’s saying something these days!  In southern states, they have to figure out how to keep those delicate maps and archived stuff de-humidified.   NARA and many archives have been at the forefront of storage media decisions, in large part because they are charged with preserving fragile materials across a very wide range of temperature and humidity .  <a href="http://www.archives.gov/index.html">http://www.archives.gov/index.html</a></p>
<p>Storage is a hugely expensive proposition, and retrieval is another whole huge problem — you can’t let JUST ANYONE go get Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Quran out of the old archives… ;-) </p>
<p>The Internet is our best hope.<br />
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<p>With respect to 10-year-old computer books… I had to listen to a very distressed banker a couple years back (after 2000, actually).  He needed COBAL programmers, b/c his core, most valuable stuff was written in COBAL.</p>
<p>Now, I myself do not haunt the COBAL shelves, but I would think that language hasn’t altered too much in ten years…? So the lifecycle of a book may be more or less than 10 years. I’d venture a guess that any Ruby On Rails pubs go out of date in under 24 months, although it’s not something I spend any time on myself ;-)</p>
<p>But even with Open Source codes, authors deserve to be compensated if they create a manual.</p>
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		<title>By: AirportCat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/mickey-mouse-crisis/#comment-443170</link>
		<dc:creator>AirportCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/tool-time/&quot;&gt;shiny new filament&lt;/a&gt; up top&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/tool-time/">shiny new filament</a> up top</p>
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		<title>By: OldCoastie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/mickey-mouse-crisis/#comment-443166</link>
		<dc:creator>OldCoastie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-443164&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;AirportCat @&lt;br /&gt;
                107              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Movie &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036855/&quot;&gt;Gaslight (1944)&lt;/a&gt;  … Gaslighting = deliberately undermining someone’s sanity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OldCoastie, lines like “Jesus notices hypocrites” are brilliant, sounds like they play directly to his fears … keep up the good work!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks! I was proud of myself! ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-443164"><em>AirportCat @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Movie <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036855/">Gaslight (1944)</a>  … Gaslighting = deliberately undermining someone’s sanity.</p>
<p>OldCoastie, lines like “Jesus notices hypocrites” are brilliant, sounds like they play directly to his fears … keep up the good work!</p>
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<p>thanks! I was proud of myself! ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: AirportCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>AirportCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Movie &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036855/&quot;&gt;Gaslight (1944)&lt;/a&gt;  … Gaslighting = deliberately undermining someone’s sanity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OldCoastie, lines like “Jesus notices hypocrites” are brilliant, sounds like they play directly to his fears … keep up the good work!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Movie <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036855/">Gaslight (1944)</a>  … Gaslighting = deliberately undermining someone’s sanity.</p>
<p>OldCoastie, lines like “Jesus notices hypocrites” are brilliant, sounds like they play directly to his fears … keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: TeddySanFran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/mickey-mouse-crisis/#comment-443163</link>
		<dc:creator>TeddySanFran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-443142&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TRex @ 85&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, my goodness.  Things are getting quite heated over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2007/01/get-out-chalker.html&quot;&gt;TBogg’s place tonight&lt;/a&gt;.  It’s right wing troll night, apparently.  You kids should stop by and show your support.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you made me miss the start of jeopardy~!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-443142"><em>TRex @ 85</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, my goodness.  Things are getting quite heated over at <a href="http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2007/01/get-out-chalker.html">TBogg’s place tonight</a>.  It’s right wing troll night, apparently.  You kids should stop by and show your support.</p>
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<p>you made me miss the start of jeopardy~!</p>
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		<title>By: OldCoastie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/mickey-mouse-crisis/#comment-443162</link>
		<dc:creator>OldCoastie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Larry Johnson has a new post up about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/01/taking_stock_of.html#more&quot;&gt;Negroponte move and the resulting fill-ins&lt;/a&gt; in the World of Spooks… and what it may mean for the Dem confirmation process and Iran…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Johnson has a new post up about the <a href="http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/01/taking_stock_of.html#more">Negroponte move and the resulting fill-ins</a> in the World of Spooks… and what it may mean for the Dem confirmation process and Iran…</p>
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		<title>By: neurophius</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/mickey-mouse-crisis/#comment-443161</link>
		<dc:creator>neurophius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joke Line alert on CNN&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/mickey-mouse-crisis/#comment-443160</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-443142&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TRex @ 85&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, my goodness.  Things are getting quite heated over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2007/01/get-out-chalker.html&quot;&gt;TBogg’s place tonight&lt;/a&gt;.  It’s right wing troll night, apparently.  You kids should stop by and show your support.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Done.  I offered him the name of my exterminator.  I haven’t had trolls since he started coming by…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-443142"><em>TRex @ 85</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, my goodness.  Things are getting quite heated over at <a href="http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2007/01/get-out-chalker.html">TBogg’s place tonight</a>.  It’s right wing troll night, apparently.  You kids should stop by and show your support.</p>
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<p>Done.  I offered him the name of my exterminator.  I haven’t had trolls since he started coming by…</p>
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		<title>By: OldCoastie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/01/04/mickey-mouse-crisis/#comment-443159</link>
		<dc:creator>OldCoastie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-443155&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;AirportCat @ 98&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-443146&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;OldCoastie @ 89 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wrote my idiot fundie congressman again today to insist he bring the troops home… I can tell I’m getting on his nerves (perhaps the line, “Jesus notices hypocrites” got his attention) as I got today what I think is an individually composed email in return… at any rate, he insisted again that we are fighting the war on terror in Iraq… I simply replied, “oh, Mr. Miller, you know that’s not true…”
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tell the truth now: when you were in school, did you ever think democracy would be so much fun? (Is this what is meant by the term “gas-lighting?”)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the other line I liked and hoped would piss him off was I said, “next time you are weeping for teeny tiny stem cells” and then I asked him to save some real tears for the dead and wounded from Iraq…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he’s a jackass and must go in 2008…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-443155"><em>AirportCat @ 98</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-443146"><em>OldCoastie @ 89 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I wrote my idiot fundie congressman again today to insist he bring the troops home… I can tell I’m getting on his nerves (perhaps the line, “Jesus notices hypocrites” got his attention) as I got today what I think is an individually composed email in return… at any rate, he insisted again that we are fighting the war on terror in Iraq… I simply replied, “oh, Mr. Miller, you know that’s not true…”
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<p>Tell the truth now: when you were in school, did you ever think democracy would be so much fun? (Is this what is meant by the term “gas-lighting?”)</p>
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<p>the other line I liked and hoped would piss him off was I said, “next time you are weeping for teeny tiny stem cells” and then I asked him to save some real tears for the dead and wounded from Iraq…</p>
<p>he’s a jackass and must go in 2008…</p>
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