Awwwwwwww, Republicans. Isn't it cute when they beg for mercy?
House GOP: Don't Hurt Us — Please
By Justin Rood – January 2, 2007, 11:48 AMRepublicans aren't yet an official minority in the House, but they're already beginning a campaign to portray themselves as victims of a heartless Democratic majority.
In a "Dear Colleague" letter circulated to fellow Republicans, three House GOPers are trying to push a "Minority Bill of Rights" — based on a two-year-old proposal by then-Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). You can read the letter here.
"Unfortunately, as you are well aware, the Democrats' forty-year reign over the House was plagued by consistent, systematic efforts to usurp the rights and privileges of the Republican minority," write Reps. Patrick McHenry (R-NC), Eric Cantor (R-VA) and Tom Price (R-GA).
They don't mention their party's own strongarm tactics — which is striking, given that since 2002 Cantor himself was a member of the House GOP leadership, which was known for ruthlessly engineering legislative victories. "[R]eveling in the power they have, [Republicans] are using techniques to jam bills through even when they don't have to . . . simply because they can," is how congressional expert Norman Ornstein characterized the GOP's screw-the-minority tactics from 1994 to the present, according to a 2004 Washington Post article.
In other words, "Please protect us from the cutthroat culture we created in government! Pleeeease!" Bitchez. Looks like we're going to have to call the waaaaaaaaaah-mbulance. Get 'em some Crylenol. But what's that you say? The Minority Bill of Rights was originally proposed by Nancy Pelosi in 2004? What exactly happened with that?
An ironic case in point: When Pelosi made her proposal to protect Democrats in 2004, GOP House Speaker Dennis Hastert (IL) refused to entertain the idea, let alone reply to her correspondence.
Oh. From the June 24th, 2006 WaPo:
House Democrats' anger at heavy-handed Republican tactics reached a new level yesterday, with the chamber's top Democrat asking the House speaker to embrace a "Bill of Rights" for the minority, regardless which party it is.
In keeping with the general atmosphere of the House these days, aides to Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) said he will not respond to the two-page proposal from Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).
Fortunately for us all, it looks like the Democrats aren't going to get suckered into some touchy-feely "come back Tom DeLay, all is forgiven" bipartisan circle jerk where they all toast marshmallows and sing Kum Ba Yah around a campfire.
As they prepare to take control of Congress this week and face up to campaign pledges to restore bipartisanship and openness, Democrats are planning to largely sideline Republicans from the first burst of lawmaking.
Hell fuckin' yeah! It's on.
The Democrats must demonstrate that they can break legislative gridlock and govern after 12 years in the minority, while honoring their pledge to make the 110th Congress a civil era in which Democrats and Republicans work together to solve the nation's problems. Yet in attempting to pass laws key to their prospects for winning reelection and expanding their majority, the Democrats may have to resort to some of the same tough tactics Republicans used the past several years.
Break out the thumbscrews, baby!! This is my kinda party!
House Republicans have begun to complain that Democrats are backing away from their promise to work cooperatively. They are working on their own strategy for the first 100 hours, and part of it is built on the idea that they might be able to break the Democrats' slender majority by wooing away some conservative Democrats.
Good luck with that you mealy-mouthed little ditch-rats. As it says in the Book of Numbers, "Be sure your sins will find you out." (32:23)
This is Karmageddon. Praise Jesus.
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Slender majority my ass. The MSM is at it again.
TRex !!
TREX!!!
I’m all for a good karma thrashing, but is it really in our best interests? Fix what you can in the first 100 days, then go after the little cockroaches.
Howard Dean!
Just think of the Rethugs as the little Christmas puppy mewling and pissin’ in the corner…and once Pelosi gets ‘em housebroken they’ll be allowed in polite company. If they mind their manners.
Any sympathy for the partisan tacky-hammers who promised to use every tactic they could to stonewall and obstruct Pelosi’s agenda?
Nope. Me, neither.
While simple revenge appeals to my baser instincts, good governance will still carry the day. Unfortunately for the Republicans, that still means that they might have to be strong-armed out of the way.
I have to see what the real responce will be ….outside of gales of laughter from nancy@co
Taking names.
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Who’s Next?
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I can handle not having a circle jerk, but what am I going to do with all these marshmellows?
lets be honest NZ…revenge,served Ice Cold is the main course…with a fair helping of good .gov
Tom @
6
Fix what you can? I vote for spaying and neutering.
snuffy @ 13
Indeed. Thumping the snot out of their wee, pointy heads is priority one. Let them sulk on the sidelines and wail and moan about their misfortune for a while until they’ve really thought about what they’ve done.
And then let them sit for another six months while we stop all funding for the war.
Nancy needs to hammer down and humiliate the vermin who started this fiasco in the first place. let them sweat and show they are willing to play nice. Then, maybe then, bring back some old rules.
oiw,
First give us back our troops, money, civil liberties, habeas corpus, stop torture, bankruptcy protection, geneva conventions and call me in the morning.
oh and TRex!
Oh, and my Macbook is ALIVE!!!
It booted right up this afternoon.
Thank Bast!
that doofus David Brooks was crying on the News Hour this evening… somehow, I didn’t feel the least bit sorry for him…
congrats on the MacBook survival… (and next time, don’t fiddle with it! you scared the hell outta me!)
Face it folks,there is many years of malfesence that will take time to dig out…when I saw the ‘bill of rights of the minority” I was hopeing that laughter was the reaction on our side
patrick@14 I agree.whole-heartedly
In the spirit of “Crashing the Gates,” can we send all the Republicans in Congress a damp hankie?
NZ Expat @ 9
Well, there’s the rub, isn’t it? I’m all for giving the Thugs one chance to shape up and play ball by some reasonable set of rules…or I was, because I think this latest stunt pretty much predicts the outcome.
Patrick 4/4 @ 21
Sandpaper hankies? I’m in.
Do unto others as you would them do unto you. And now, the Repubs are being done to. They’re getting exactly what they gave.
Bwahahahaha! 2007 is gonna be soooo much fun!
Patrick 4/4 @ 21
Or some faux pearls to clutch
Patrick 4/4 @
14
Show that on the Animal Planet and pass the popcorn.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 16
That looks like a good start…now day 2…
honestly the best response to these whiny assed repugs is a cascade of laughter. then, wiping the tears of humor from the corner of your eyes, you say, oh, you weren’t kidding? and triggering another peal of guffaws.
seriously, these bullies only respect adversaries who are willing to get just as nasty as they are, not that can ever happen.
OldCoastie @ 19
Ten-four, OC. Patience has never been one of my strong suits. I will leave it alone for a full 24 hours next time, should (god forbid) the same thing ever happen again.
One Pelosi
Two Pelosi
Three Pelosi
4.
Can’t wait for the MAJORITY.
Chairman Conyers
Chairman Waxman
Chairman Leahy
Chairman Boxer
sweet, sweet music: and not a moment too soon!
Spaying and neutering is advisable. They teach their younguns to hate early. I had many real life examples of this in ‘04 as 6 and 8 year olds screeched obscenities out of the backseat of their parents’ cars (while the parents smiled in approval).
“First give us back our troops, money, civil liberties, habeas corpus, stop torture, bankruptcy protection, geneva conventions and call me in the morning.”
Oh, and could we get rid of “Clear Skies” and “Healthy Forests” and the other Orwellian environmental atrocities the Repugs have brought us? And about global warming…
SusanD @ 31
Now,now,we cant go for engineering society like they wanted to…
You know, the press has done their damnedest to make sure this victory tastes like sawdust in our mouths, but it’s just not going to happen. They can write about “Dems in Disarray” until their eyes bleed, but a Democratic Congress is going to RAWK RAWK RAAWWWWWWK!!!
We should get the majority to outline a resolution that the Republican minority leader has to sit in a dunking booth on the House plaza for the entirety of the first 100 hours. A dollar a throw with all the proceeds going to children’s health care charities.
WaPo chatz tomorrow:
Chris Cillizza at 11 eastern
First Froomkin of 2007 at 1 eastern!!
It’s not revenge, it’s politics. Why does the left never comprehend that when you have your boot on the right wing’s neck, you don’t let up?
Quite the opposite.
TRex @ 34
I like it..
TRex @ 17 no problem it was only water..My laptop took three days to get it’s shit together after coffee.
On topic: Gut the GOP. If any good comes from the Bush fuck-up, it will be the destruction of the Republican Party as a national party. It can’t come soon enough.
Yeah, I know. But is it okay if I’m disappointed that we can’t?
neurophius @
25
Sorry, but their interpretaion of Scripture forbids the casting of pearls before swine, I’m not a literalist, but I think that extends to faux ones as well. Much as “Blessed are the Cheesemakers” refers to all manufacturers of dairy products.
seriously, bullies (mirls, too) fear only one thing: comeuppance. and that means being met kind for kind.
you show them you can dish as nasty as they can, and they understand the consequences of their bad behavior.
you show them that you’re “enlightened,” with better manners than they have, and they learn NOTHING by it — they feel like they’re getting away with something.
dems need not be aggressively ham-fisted, nor relentlessly insulting, a la the delay years. but they have to show the repugs that they can play hardball too, or they will not regain true control of congress.
um, mirls is glitchy keyboard for mean girls.
Pachacutec @ 36
I am really hopeing the blogosphere will as as a “guideing light”,or conversly,as a swift kick in the cohones of the pol’s who want to play nice with the sick fucks that brought us to the state we are in
Pachacutec @ 36
Yeah, and I think this Reich Wing retired the word “civility” on a gallows in Baghdad last weekend. So did TradMed.
Civil is as civil does, in my book.
I agree, snuffy. Because the wingers see playing nice as an indication of weakness. They’re not going to stop the bashing they’ve always done, and they’ll be looking for ways to cause trouble.
I’m for implementing the most bizarre and byzantine rules for the new minority.
“Point of order, Sen. McCain? I’m sorry, that needs to be in the form of a question.” Bzzzzt.
“Representative Lott, you have the floor – if you can pick it up, Bwahahaha! I have a gavel. I kill me.”
The Republicans would have complained about the lack of bipartisanship no matter what the Democrats did. If you’re going to be accused of being power-mad absolutist loonies no matter what, it only makes sense to enjoy the perks.
Cybil is as Cybil does.
crime me a f**king river, goopers.
Marci Kiser @ 47
I like the way you think, dear.
TRex @ 28
not a mac type myself, but i hear they respond well to healing crystals and sufi chants
I was doing yoga breathing and playing recorded whale songs when I rebooted this morning. I think it worked.
Pachacutec @
36
“full throttle”
Mack @ 51
“Or you can just take a big fat placebo! It’s all the same crap!”
–Prof. Hubert Farnsworth, “Futurama”
SusanD @ 45
Exactly my pont…these creatures got power and abused it wildly…I am hopeing all the chairs remember how they were dis’ed in the comeing fun and games.memory payback
where’d I put that iddy biddy violin, anyway?
Ya see, the Gopers are kinda like Pete Puma in the old Bugs Bunny Cartoon. “Better give me a whole lotta lumps…”
These guys screwed up so bad, they’ll soon be helpin themselves.
punaise @ 56
We put the violins over there, next to the sects.
Patrick 4/4 @ 58
remember what I said in that Chinese restaurant: “I abhor won ton violins.”
snuffy @ 55
We should have a “favorite CSPAN smackdown” prediction contest. Me, I’m looking forward to Leahy ruling Spectre’s motion (to NOT have the Attorney General sworn-in) out of order, and then hold SingleBullet in contempt.
Or perhaps Chairman Boxer will send Inhofe on an Arctic junket with hungry polar bears on a shrinking ice floe.
If we treat them right, it won’t be long before they get used to their status, kind of like animals on a farm after proper treatment, and soon they will be content.
c&l has up olbermann’s latest special commentary, this one of bush’s anticipated call for surge and “sacrifice.”
it’s long — 10 minutes — and could have used an edit, but it’s good, and high-octane outrage.
punaise @ 59
I bao to your wishes.
masaccio @ 61
perfect. let’s trot out that old chestnut for them.
Hee. Don’t worry, Mr. Inhofe. God is in charge up there, somewhere. He won’t let anything bad happen to you.
TRex @ 65
glow with the floe
TeddySanFran @ 60
I like it…with peguin-fur parka,eh?
punaise @ 66
Then add literal earmarks. first the tranquilizer dart, then the tag (with transmitter) attached to the earlobe. When it falls off, you know when their political life is over.
Favorite CSPAN Smackdown moment? I vote for when Speaker Pelosi tallys the votes for the Articles of Impeachment and we pick up half the GOP delegation voting for them with our folks.
I’m particularly looking forward to Susan Collins shutting out that windbag turncoat RGJoe, which I think already began in Baghdad. She must be glad not to have to be nice to the old cretin, after listening to his craven bipartisan gassing about the thievery at Homeland Security for the past five years.
Not that she doesn’t deserve whatever wonderful fate Mainiacs may have in store for her, but she must be feeling free of a terrible burden, chairing that committee with him as Reigning Minority Member. heh.
(can we still call them Mainiacs, or is that not cool anymore?)
Groveling…the only posture that comes naturally to Repugs. Whining would be a plus!
In a “Dear Colleague” letter circulated to fellow Republicans which emanated from their new voter-provided Eunuchs-based server….
the deck is stacked at salon.com:
Heading home, kids.
See you in a bit.
TeddySanFran @ 70
If she,or any “moderate” repub change their party,or went indie,that would cut RGjoe out of power completely.He has soooo many freinds ..
TeddySanFran @ 30
oh, look what you’ve done… now I gotta go find my jumprope!
If Nancy is as smart a grandma as I think she is, she’ll make the pugs EARN BACK every privelege and right… like disciplining 6 year olds…
I think everything should be done in the spirit of compromise and bipartisanship. Y’know, the same kind that Bush does — you give us everything we want, we’ll pretend someday later we’re going to give you some of what you want. And after the vote is over, we’ll laugh about how we screwed you over, and say you have no right to complain about anything because you voted with us.
That’s bipartisanship, right?
OldCoastie @ 76
That sounds like about the right emotional age. And they’re spoiled brats, too.
“You cant have any pudding until you eat your meat!”
Patrick 4/4 @ 46
sick, but really funny!
What was it our favorite anchor baby said?
Oh yeah,
BOO FRICKEN HOO!
How about a flag-burning amendment with articles of impeachment attached?
Sucks to be losers, right Georgie, Denny, Dickie?
The only thing worse will be the howls from the Republican Media elite.
-GSD
When Senator Feingold asks for some additional time and Leahey grants it.
Rule I want to see altered. Whatever rule allows people to not answer congress.
Congress IS our national security.
Redshift @ 77
I have been told that political payback is how the game is played…and christ there is some payback due…they rubbed shit in the dems face for 6 years.I hope the memories are still fresh for all the minority-now-majority
Who’s gonna be the first GOP crybaby to storm outta committee meeting on camera? Sensenbrenner, I betcha.
When net neutrality comes around in the commerce committee we rabid lambs will need to be on top of Senator Mark Pryor. I heard him say last month in a committee meeting on CSPAN “I don’t see why we can’t divide up the internet in four or five sections”. Since I am a constituent I’ve been considering a hotmail account for the purpose of forwarding letters from out of state pups who can’t get through.
TeddySanFran @ 86
Senator Ted Stevens
Let’s not forget our favorite crybaby camera hog LIEberman…”Oh those mean Democrats just don’t undestand bipartisanship”
TeddySanFran @ 86
Kelven @
81
Dammit. That should have been the title of my post.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 88
TOOBZ!
You guys may have to help me. I’m thinking of doing a Top 20 Most Obnoxious Conservative Jackasses. Those clowns will rue the day they left Jane off their “Most Annoying Liberal” list.
TRex @ 90
No shit. Never too late to edit, add it parenthetical style like the title of Dr. Strangelove (Or, How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)
TRex @ 92
you think you can limit it to 20?!?
TRex @ 92
Ooooooooooh me likey! Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Really, Ol’ 60 Grit, Gentle Ben Domenench, that idiot at LGF and I could go on but I’ll let others chime in now.
It would be a start.
OldCoastie @ 94
Are we limited to pundits? Or do we just start with the Executive Branch?
Oooo whiners, such whiners. I really doubt the grandma in charge will take that bullshit. Oh gods, i wish i had CSPAN now. The gloves are OFF.
Now? i need to watch Olbermann’s latest comment, i heard he was in rare and fighting form tonight.
TRex @ 92
Michelle Malkin, Kate Ol’60 Grit and Ann Coulter. Phyllis Schlafly can play Barbara Walters.
We give them their own morning show and call it “The Parallax View” in which they shriekingly justify their new mistaken reasons for being Right.
TRex @ 92
Man, it would be a nightmare job whittling down that list.
See, but people like Coulter and Tucker Carlson, who would have been in last year’s top ten have slipped considerably since they’ve lost big chunks of their audiences, so they might be in the top 20, but you have to make room for up and comers.
And then there’s the question of their election defeats. Santorum would be in last year’s Top Ten, but I’m thinking this year, he might be at, like, 15. (But his passel of brats, all 67 of them, would weigh in at number eight.)
*Footnoting my own jokes(egad): Parallax, or more accurately motion parallax (Greek: παραλλαγή (parallag) = alteration) is the change of angular position of two stationary points relative to each other as seen by an observer, due to the motion of an observer. Simply put, it is the apparent shift of an object against a background due to a change in observer position.
TRex @ 92
Please save a slot for Fran Townsend:
“HENRY: You know, going back to September 2001, the president said, dead or alive, we’re going to get him. Still don’t have him. I know you are saying there’s successes on the war on terror, and there have been. That’s a failure.
TOWNSEND: Well, I’m not sure — it’s a success that hasn’t occurred yet. I don’t know that I view that as a failure.”
http://intellectualize.org/mt/…..i?tag=Fran Townsend&blog_id=2
This list may end up being a group project for the four of us.
TRex @ 101
OK wait, I’m confused by the criteria for this list. Is this list of 2 of who HAVE BEEN the most obnoxious of 2006 or WILL BE the most obnoxious of 2007?
Patrick 4/4 @ 102
Oh hell no. It was a fine joke comment until you dropped this science in the thread. I am reposessing the chuckle I gave you for explaining it.
Well, since the GOP in 2007 is a failure that hasn’t occurred yet, I think we may have to go with the best/worst of 2006.
Bill Kristol is the worst pundick of them all. Fascism with a baby smooth and warmly smiling face.
Hands down, worst war monger of the whole goon squad.
-GSD
By the way, did Fox News send out a memo trying to find out why the Iranians were so happy about the Saddam killing and why they sounded much like every right winger and Bush official who was dancing on the old tyrants carcass?
TRex @ 92
I hate this puffy-lipped freak. I love that picture of her pawing all over Sean Hannity. Just makes me wish I had some salt to dump on those two so I could watch them dissolve.
And, goddamn, Jonah Goldberg is dumb. Just thick. Who could forget “What Iraq needs is a man like Pinochet”? Wrong on so many levels… Jonah, Moktada’s boys just lynched him. But I bet you and your authoritarian cultist boy scout friends could find another one under a rock somewhere…
that’s two to start with.
TRex @ 92
Just like shooting fish in a barrel… although it would be hard to stop at 20 wouldn’t it? I know – you, Jane, Christy, Pach, and all the rest of the regulars get to each pick 20, that way we can make sure we don’t leave any deserving souls out…
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 106
Damn me.
ooo, put on Frontline (a repeat) and Joe Wilson is on there!
TRex @ 101
My interpretation of the midterm elections would be that there are no up and comers. In the media…well, Glenn Beck is comparatively new to the Big Time, but that’s about it.
EvilDrPuma @ 100
actually a good strategy would be to leave out the usual suspects and find the most obscure, inane dweebs possible ……..
TRex:
You don’t have to limit it to 20.
It’s only a number.
TRex @ 107
In that case then you should include Santorum, et al for having been so fuckin obnoxious. By the way, 20 won’t cut it bro. Consider 50 seriously.
Jonah would place very high on that list. Very high. He’s like an uncooked beignet with a trust fund.
well, I’m done – ‘night you guys…
Hey – Is this where the foul-mouthed, Satan-worshipping homos hang out?
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 116
I gotta agree. Go for 50, but be sure to tell ‘em why.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @
106
Late Nite humor credo:
1. never explain
2. never apologize
3. never succumb to the temptation of wondering out loud if anybody “got it”
(of course, I’ve been guilty of all three on occasion)
See the reason they only did 20 most annoying liberals is because thats all they could come up with and they even included such flaming socialists as Jack Murtha and Andrew Sullivan on that list. Lack of imagination as usual, if conservatives ran the entertainment biz they would kill it.
thewheezer @ 119
Tonight is foppish, atheist, draft dodgers night. Come back tomorrow.
-GSD
thewheezer @ 119
Yes. I’m the president. Is there something I can help you with?
My favorite schadenpleasure is how the R’s changed the rules on the Committee on Government Reform in the 90’s to go after Clinton. They gave that committee’s chairman the unique right to issue subpoenas on his own without a committee vote, a power he used to do things like investigate the White House Christmas card list.
And now that gavel’s being handed over to Henry Waxman of CA, and it’s too late for them to change the rules back now. I lived in L.A. for twenty years, and I know about the guy. He’s tough and honest, a real bulldog, just waiting to be let off the leash. He’s said, properly, that he’ll only use subpoenas as a last resort, but I think that will come pretty quickly, given this bunch in the White House.
This is going to be fun.
thewheezer @ 119
No, they’re down the block.
EvilDrPuma @ 120
so they can count then on all their fingers and toes?
punaise @ 121
Then of course, there is the meta-humor of knowing all three points and explaining anyway.
Wimper.
punaise @ 127
They can count now?
thewheezer @ 119
Hell yes. Wanna f*ck?
punaise @ 121
As have I on occasion as well. I of course second this to be adopted as our credo in Late Night.
Patrick 4/4 @ 128
ah hell, just take a mulligan, OK?
I just found a new Douchebag of the Moment in Alphonso Jackson.
Please put him on the list.
-GSD
P.S. Sorry for the Newshacks link. Just seeing what the adversaries are up to.
Patrick 4/4 @ 130
Owwwww. That’s going to leave a mark.
Let’s not forget Karen Hanretty! Chris Matthews smacked her down a few days ago when she was spewing nonsense about The Plan and made a nasty comment about Carter.
Can Peter Bienart be in the group??
finally, credo be myself
punaise @ 132
Michelle Malkin, Kate Ol’60 Grit and Ann Coulter. Phyllis Schlafly can play Barbara Walters.
We give them their own morning show and call it “The Parallax View” in which they shriekingly justify their new mistaken reasons for being Right.
Make sure Mary Cheney makes the list. She’d probably sell out her own child to keep her party in power. Oh, wait…
TRex @ 92
Kristol
Carlson
Lieberman
Blankley
Old “old old 60 Grit
The Big Lug on Fox – Hume
Whoever is the worst on NPR
Carville the traitor
Brooks
Frank Probst @ 138
Now, let’s not pick on what may be the only semenal moment of Mary’s life.
Patrick 4/4 @ 137
oooh: time warp!
The mark of Satan, of course…
EvilDrPuma @ 134
TRex @ 92
Gotta have those 2 lovebirds – Pam “The Atlas Jugs” and John “I’m the Fuller Brush man here to clean your carpet” Bolton.
It’s just a jump to the left…
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 122
um…. bought any records lately?
They have… and they did.
GSD @ 133
I had the misfortune of hearing this gasbag speak at a conference I was covering a few years ago. I knew he was a special kind of self loathing hate filled neocon, this confirms it.
Conrad Burns
Atlas Pam
John Bolton
Duncan Hunter
Dude.
20 spots may be slicing it a bit thin after all.
Charles Krauthammer
Mad Dogs @ 143
This is a voodoo doll moment.
EvilDrPuma @
134
Butt, apparently, it’s gaining in popularity. I’m going to have to wake up Mrs. Swifty!
Dana @ 147
Of course! Oh, gosh. Yeah, this list may need to be a two-part series.
TRex—do you mean this left?
thewheezer @ 142
sex, sex, sex
TRex @ 151
“America’s Bottom (Feeder) Forty?”
patrick rex @ 145
I got to agree with you about the major labels but this most certainly does not apply to the multitude of indie labels releasing interesting music from bands like Whitey or Brazillian Girls.
That’s an impressive turn of phrase.
johnSwifty @ 149
Dammit, we can’t have nice things!
You straight people ruin EVERYTHING! You won’t even let us have buggery to ourselves.
Just want to comment – after being away from FDL for a month or so – that TRex is in fine form tonight. And the comments are some of the funniest I have read in a long time.
The writing and commentary at FDL continue to be some of the best in the blogosphere (even if the site isn’t considered annoyingly liberal enough).
RBG @ 152
…throws toast at own computer.
punaise @ 153
“They’re like sex, except I’m having them!”
–Fry, “Futurama”
EvilDrPuma @ 154
South Snark Sentinels
Under the cow patty
Repub-lickins
norstadt @ 155
Sigh.
Thank you for noticing. It was my very favorite from this piece.
Hey – Is this where the foul-mouthed, Satan-worshipping homos hang out?
RBG, help me out here…
for the record and for all poster
iorsity, some of us are virtual, honory, track-lighting adjusting non-voting, uhhh, membersThe Things the Elephants Left Behind.
Patrick 4/4 @ 159
…tosses confetti, snaps rubber gloves 3 times
punaise @ 163
honory? horny? ornery? onan-ery?
Lieberliar deserves to be on that list as much as anybody.
TRex @ 164
My KingDung for some pork.
Patrick 4/4 @ 158
TO MELBA!!
TRex @ 157
You’ll always have Francis Gumm!
Butt, I’ll give up any regional rights to above said property in exchange for the return of the right the scream, “Oh my gawd!” in high falsetto.
Patrick 4/4 @
166
I was with you until you just had to go talking about members.
Looks like Friedman has run out of Friedman Units. From tomorrow’s column:
I just watching all these worms beginning to turn.
Wish we could send T-shirts to the Dems in Congress:
“Bipartisan. I’ll hug your elephant and you can kiss my ass.”
Patrick 4/4 @ 166
I will neither explain nor apologize for that.
TRex – What about Dan Gerstein…serious dung for the list.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 155
Well, claro!
There’s plenty of good music out there. It hasn’t gone anywhere. But, um, hello… the majors are releasing full length LPs by Paris Hilton and K-Fed!! (while trying to kill independent internet radio with OUTRAGEOUS licensing fees!)
Anyone here heard Earl Greyhound? Oh, my, they’re good.
Also, LKN, Maserati… a dozen more….
The Dung List says it all.
punaise @ 174
damn spill-check
OT, but why is Tucker Carlson STILL talking? Will he go the way of Rita Cosby soon?
Peggy Noonan?
punaise @ 174
Yeah, I already plowed that field.
Here’s a transcript of KO from C&L tonight on sacrifice. Good stuff.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 176
The Dung Report.
With flashing siren graphics.
punaise @ 163
As much as my family wonders about a 35 year old, 2 cat owner with no girlfriend for over 3 years, I concur. While I may live the similar HGTV instead of ESPN lifestyle as my brother in arms TRex, our choices of dates for Saturday would be a brother and sister pair of twins. TRex, I’ll be your wingman any night, any club. Hell together we both might get laid faster, I’m a great wingman for my friend Dan when we go out.
hi all.
now for some great news:
heckuva job bushco!
With a terra here
And a terra there
Here a terra, there a terra
Everywhere a terraist
Old gee dubya had a farm
Ee i ee i o
BOO!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..unications
TRex @ 182
Don’t forget Nancy DisGrace
SusanD @ 173
Love it!
A coworker told me today that he was bitterly disappointed that the Ford funeral services did not include the coffin skittering down a set of airplane stairs.
I love my coworkers.
TRex @ 187
Maybe when Chevy Chase dies he can put it in his will to do this.
Maybe you need to have two categories of obnoxious right wing conservative idiot jackasses.
One list of those who, by their very nature, could not help but qualify. O’Reilly, Coultergeist, Cheney…
Another list for those who were not born to that fate but are trying their hardest to emulate it. There you would have your Liebermans, your Specters, your Carvilles…
Thomas Friedman and his units
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 188
You mean a few years ago on his late night show?
Is the Ford funeral almost over?? I worry it won’t be until everyone attending is pardoned.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 183
as a married guy, long out of the dating loop, I have to innocently ask: what is a wingman?
Apparently King Chowder-nuts and his stooges were for Saddams execution before they were against it.
Rover is in high spin mode trying to pat down the lumpy rug that hides Saddams’ corpse.
Great work again.
-GSD
Yeah, me too. What is this “wingman” of which you speak?
hey angie!
punaise @ 193
You remember that buddy that would go with you to the bar or party and help you score the girl you had your eye on and you’d help him do the same? That’s your wingman, it’s taken from the bar scene in Top Gun and has become cultural shorthand for describing the person who parties with you and does the above mentioned job.
punaise @ 193
Give up the Pouilly Fume for a minute and have a Coors!
Wow, looks like Lexus-Olive Friedman is smarter than Emporer Palpatine Lieberman and Boo Radley McCain combined.
Also, is Francis Gumm related to Jame Gumb?
-GSD
punaise @
193
Here’s how the WaPo describes a wingman.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 197
well, learn something every day. makes sense now.
I need to get out more.duly noted.Pearle
JoKline
Mehlman
neurophius @ 189
Almost all of the “democrat” talking heads on teevee are well suited.
Joe Klein, Donna Brazile Nut……
(hi Dana– lovely winter here in Richmond, eh? Lovin’ that global warming…)
hiya punaise– I so loved the elfun fun of you and Louis that you shared!
johnSwifty @
198
ahora es claro
punaise @ 204
I had not seen that ad until now, too funny!
GSD @ 199
No but he’s in a show with a guy who was in a show about “Wingmen” (Wings) so the gods of degrees of separation are in their heaven and all is in order.
TRex @ 101
I think you’re making this far too complicated. It’s bad enough that we have to contrast such large quantities of annoyance, obnoxiousness, and stupidity. Don’t make us try to balance how up-and-coming, down-and-out, or just-taking-a-sabbatical-from-evil they are.
My list, for what it’s worth, and I can’t even come up with twenty right now:
Rush Limbaugh
Ann Coulter (yes, she does deserve it – the “merry widows” thing was this year)
Bill O’Reilly
Alberto “Abu” Gonzalez
John McCain
Bill Kristol
Sean Hannity
Glenn Reynolds
Glenn Beck
John Hinderaker
George W. Bush
Richard Cheney
Michelle Malkin
I just wrote those down in the order I thought of them, so perhaps that’s as good a measure as I can come up with of how annoying and obnoxious I found them to be.
Michael Savage is another nut for that list.
RBG @
200
thanks. distant memories of New Wave Night at The Graduate in SLO-town…
But doing another list is so . . . derivative. Like copying that idiotic Right Wing Gnus and its Twenty Most Annoying BS.
Maybe we should just choose the idiots we most want to diss and make up snarky categories to fit them and their ilk. If needed, we could do 2nd/3rd place or honorable mention. Like, oh, I dunno. Best Performance by a Drag Queen or Floozie Pundit. Suckup of the Year. Brain-dead but Still-Employed Survivor. That sort of thing.
Lieberman fancies himself as W’s wingman as the latter tries (all too successfully) to screw the country.
Oh! throw in the freaky reverend who stalked funerals
Hey, Angie! Yes, the magnolia down the street is budding.
Oh, by the way, Bush has a new plan to balance the budget by 2012. No specifics, but it doesn’t depend on rescinding any tax cuts.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01…..ref=slogin
punaise @
211
Dang…it’s only the 2nd day of the new year and I’m already adjusting my track lighting.
GSD @ 194
as usual,this “lynching” was ill-conceved,and made a tinpot dictator a hero the sunni will sing of for a thousand years
My guess;thank rove or some other numb-nut for the timeing.The spooks over @ No quarter blogspot have some very salty comments as to this “event”
‘gnite crew
CatelynK @ 210
I like that. I don’t think there’s any real need to pick categories until we’ve found winners to fill them.
Maybe you could run this like a contest, where anyone nominating a wingnut would be asked to submit a statement explaining why their wingnut should make the list.
Then let us vote. We would be voting not only on the obnoxiousness of the wingnut, but also on the eloquence,humor,snark, and so forth with which the wingnut was nominated. The winners would be those whom the nominators could best persuade us should be on the list.
Alternatively, of course, you could have TRex and perhaps other FDL bloggers write 20 or 40 or however many snarky paragraphs about the wingnuts of their choice, but the previously described method would seem to be a lot easier on the bloggers.
punaise @ 204
No fair switching to Spanish. I’ll have to reprogram babblefish to get all your puns now!
Bull.. They just want to dig him up (for more media ink) and hang him again while they claim exactly the opposite all along.
TRex @
92
Cut ‘em a little slack there guy, part of it’s Jane’s own fault. It’s the cute thing. Did you ever try to demonize cute? Damned hard.
Dana @ 213
I’m thinking he’s going to fire everyone at OMB who understands mathematics and replace them with Young Republican dropouts. Then, all he’ll have to do is tell them what they think and they’ll write the budget documents accordingly.
johnSwifty @ 218
La hora es ahora…. spanish from here on out..
Cujo359, If you read the article, it’s another “Alice in Wonderland” moment. It’s so stupid, I can’t see why it was even given an inch of space.
neurophius @ 216
Ah, but in blogging, time is of the utmost.
Harpers Yearly Review 2006
Kids, I want some dinner. Back in a mo.
Dana @ 223
I read it, although I wasn’t paying attention much after the second paragraph. There sure didn’t seem to be any real information there. It’s like the old cartoon about the mathematician trying to write a proof. The second step is “a miracle occurs”. The next step is the result.
That’s just it, Cujo. It’s nothing, just it will happen. chic a boom.
Does Christopher Hitchens get his own category?
(it ain’t just Kool Aid he’s imbibing, you know)
and perhaps we can call them all losers instead of winners… you know, like KO’s worse, worser and worst categories.
they call us annoying, I call them losers, dead-enders, evildoers, stinking xenophobes and warmongers.
Angie, and that’s what you’d call them in the kindest light.
Anyone know if Donnie Trump is a Repug?
A comb-over that bad has gotta place one high on somebody’s list.
patrick rex @ 222
I don’t know, babelfish does Dutch, too: U bent prostituees, het denken over woorden
I would bet my last dollar that the donald is a rethug, Mad Dogs.
Dana– I save my most colorful language for the shower and when I am alone in front of the television when any speechifying by this administration and other pukes is happening. Singing in the shower is so pre- bushco for me.
(All of this ranting, raving and raging is aging me…)
angie @
229
no, but he gets his own drinking game
As soon as I read yesterday’s WAPO article about how the Democrats are betraying campaign promises in the Congress that hasn’t even convened yet I fired off an e-mail complaint to the writers Lyndsey Layton and Juliet Eilperin. Layton responded, along the lines of: well, we’re just pointing out a contradiction, it wasn’t the Republicans who promised to be bipartisan.
You want to talk about CONTRADICTION? How about writing about Republican DeLay thugs who suddenly, and so piously, expect total bipartisanship now that they are in the minority, after years of unprecedented manipulation and shutting out Democrats? How about writing about that GLARING contradiction, instead of playing right along with their spin by complaining about Dems planning to pass some very moderate, thoroughly discussed stuff in their first 100 hours? Is it too partisan to raise the minimum wage for the first time in years without discussing one more time whether it ought to be tied to tax cuts for the wealthy?
punaise @
234
Oh pun! One of your best! Right up there with working flacon in to Malteses Falcon, some how (I forget, it was magic). In celebration, here it is in the Dutch:
Lingo Bingo van Bitchin van Snitchens ‘
I think you’ll agree it has a certain charm.
LOL, punaise!
oh, I am so sorry I missed that great post.
What did happen to Hitchens, anyway? Too many desperado moments after the dregs were done and chomping on the many tequila worms? He used to be quite sane…
(I love the book salon and would be enthralled to have Mr. Jimmy Carter here.)
angie @ 237
9/11 scared him sober and he promised himself that would never happen again.
Cujo359 @ 221
It’s more magical thinking:
johnSwifty and angie, glad you appreciate the comment-whoring…
Patrick 4/4 @ 238
yeah, he traded that “free bottle in front of me” for the “pre-frontal lobotomy”…except he kept the bottle
punaise @ 240
Always! And now, to bed…anon, anon.
Peace, friends.
punaise @ 240
Back now, the kitties of the house came to me with pitchforks requesting a meal and the leftover corned beef and cabbage from yesterday was calling to me too.
When you gonna get your own blog to blogwhore anyway?
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 243
moi? don’t be silly. I’m a reactive creature of the threads.
(good night to those who are turning in)
punaise @ 241
Yep. He also has been rooting around like a pig for truffles for that world-historical moment worthy of his outsize ego and talents. Like Bush and the neocons, he mistook Iraq for his Churchillian moment. Something Churchill, for all his colonial sins, would have never done. He knew the difference between WWII and the Boer War.
Patrick 4/4 @ 245
all downhill since Kissinger = war criminal, eh?
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @
208
I love it when Olbermann has him on for WPITW and, without fail, calls him Michael Wiener Savage (which is his actual name).
That, and for some reason Clinton made him crazy. Could be that whole ’same age as me, smarter, better looking, better with the ladies, got to be president thing’ that drove the rest of the press absolutely nuts.
maybe Snitchens needs a time out
(apologies to P.S. Hoffman)
punaise @ 249
Now I’m imagining Hitchens as Truman Capote and that is so wrong.
Patrick 4/4 @ 248
I guess he just could not deal with the fact that a “govner” with a thick Arkansas accent and a Rhodes Scholar’s brain could win out over a British accented boy-o, now ding-a-ling and nasty piece of work (mostly).
Patrick 4/4 @ 250
You’re both onto something there, Hoffman could play Hitchens in a farcical comedy about pundits and the war.
‘cuz I’m tied to the Hitchens Post
Christine Baranski could play a great Judy Miller in that pundit movie idea.
marksb @ 239
Which is why he’d have to fire the competent people. The only way this would work is if no one knew what was really going on.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 252
Breakfast at the Heritage Institute
I confused – is this a good thing or a bad thing?
Sniffing around on the toobz…
Seven seconds. Big surprise, huh? Going through the motions.
shokay, he’s the best man in the house
(and don’t miss “sharted”)
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 254
dayam, I like Christine Baranski. She would be perfect. Can’t you just here her say “Dick”?
Patrick 4/4 @ 257
Its a misleading thing, what that report doesnt cover is the number of cities whose systems will be interoperable shortly. The reason it has taken 5 years for so many cities to get a grip on this was the feds mandated this but gave no money to them to break existing contracts and buy new multimillion dollar systems.
marksb @
258
the guy is just brimming with humanity
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 261
I grew up in the sixties and there were a lot more cities ready for crisis then: Chicago, Newark, Los Angeles, Detroit…
punaise @ 262
Longer than Laura gets…
Suzanne @ 260
Yeah with Dick being played by Darrell Hammond. I see Paul Giamatti playing Bill Kristol and John Stewart, Lewis Black and Steven Colbert as themselves.
I can here it now, “Did (pause) Dick send you, Libby?”
She can put more venom into that name than I’ve ever heard.
Patton Oswalt would make a hilarious Karl Rove.
Obama, cocaine, page A-01 of Wednesday’s WaPo.
Further, Bush reportedly spent only seven seconds at the casket and promptly left the building.
Seeing Ford’s body reminded him he had to get back to the Oval Office, where W spent the next 70 minutes watching, winding, watching, and rewinding his high definition video of Saddam’s hanging, while snickering as he kept nervously spinning the cylinders of Saddam’s pistol.
TeddySanFran @ 268
pothead too
I say the Dems sign the bill of rights, once the GOP leaders sign a statement agreeing the Dems may disregard (or discard) the bill as soon as the GOP pulls a fast one.
Suzanne @ 270
I expect pearl clutching and consternation to follow from the punditocracy.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 272
But did he ever offer to fight George H.W. Bush “mano a mano”?
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 272
but he’s not been a member of the kaya-toke-racy for decades
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 272
This has been out there for eleven years. Obama is refreshingly candid about his difficulties growing up. Young people should read that part of the book.
I had a bit of a conscience about some name-calling I engaged in last night about this time and I feel I should offer those who found my comments distasteful somewhat of an apology.
Here is my apology:
Long live bloggers, commenters, trolls and lurkers all. Thank you blog-mistresses for hostessing us miscreants. I hope that in the future I’ll confine my offensive characterizations to elected officials & staff and not attack the greater body of souls who show courage daily in their usage of the first amendment. I may disagree and be disagreeable but I’m very sorry to be insensitive to my fellow blog enthusiasts. I sincerely regret the foolish name calling and I apologize for it. I haven’t made it past troll status and I accept the need for refinement. It is presumptious of me to hide behind the degrees of separation that enable my insensitivity and as that number drops to zero the hurt I might cause bounces right back in my face.
That said, fuck Boosh.
Sleep beckons. Goodnight all.
Suzanne @ 260
Wasn’t that her cheating ex’s name in the show “Cybil”?
Oh gawd, Tweety will milk that Obama story more than one hundred ol sixty grits, without actually covering the story.
At least it’s not another “I didn’t inhale” scenario.
neokname,
I missed it. I’ve trashed this place on occasion too. Thanks for coming back and helping clean up…
Yes, it was, Margot. She says it perfectly.
Margot @ 278
Damn I think you might be right. Good memory!
neokneme @ 276
I missed it too, but its big of you to return and do the blog hari kiri. This is a good bunch of people who understand the occasional outburst of weirdness. I’ve been there myself, but thanks for the general apology.
Now be nice and behave or we’ll make you become Ol’ 60 Grit’s sex slave for a year!
The vial of self-righteousness is tempting, but toxic.
Ed*ard Teller @ 280
missed it too, guess I was distracted by someone else’s slightly off-kilter evening.
neokneme @ 284
Not to go ripping fresh scabs but what did you say?
Obama’s book has been out since before Bush had to go around hiding his tracks, threatening people in the know about his generation-long fuckup period, perhaps doing worse to some.
His book has just come out in a new edition which doesn’t edit out any politically inept sections. I looked through it when Obama was in his senate run, and, as I said, it makes a good read for adolescents.
As far as the WaPo article goes, the timing of its publication couldn’t be better for Obama. Keep your eye on Lois Romano, the article’s author.
Bush’s scandalously short time at Ford’s casket should be the subject of intense media scrutiny but it won’t.
punaise @ 285
c’mon, punaise. OFG’s right behind you for fdl poet laureate after his stanzas.
Breaking from the WaPoo:
Dirty fucking Hippies Strong-arming Democratic Leaders
Democrats Give GOP Big Middle Finger As 110th Congress Convenes
Hoping to let it pass (especially as to avoid being enslaved to an O’bernie) I will just say that insulting one particular individual wound up sounding like a sexist slam. I found it insensitive in retrospect and fumed over it all day. I don’t want to repeat it.
Since Obama was supposedly deciding to run or not last week in Hawaii, he might be trying to get this out quickly before making a final decision.
If, like me, you’re appalled that the Hartford Courant would reprint RGJoe’s cry for more blood spilled in the Iraqi desert without printing any of the 37 pages of WaPoO reader comments, you may so advise the paper’s public editor here.
neokneme – It’s all good. Nothing quite like clearing the air..)
And OFG – Don’t be a stranger. peace.
Ed*ard Teller @ 289
anyhoooo….
neokneme @ 291
Fair enough, I won’t press the subject. I was just wondering if the self flagellation tonight was from a minor or significant transgression. Then again if you fumed all day over it you probably did enough penance already. I forgive you FWIW. Now give me 5 Hail Nancy’s and an Our Clinton.
Our Clinton, who art in Harlem, hallowed be thy name…
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 296
thy blingdom come…
:~}
punaise @ 297
thy Bill Clinton
with Eartha Kitt
Clothodi @ 220
Cute ones are usually the ones you have to worry the most about. They can hide devious, evil minds. I have a friend like that. Fear the cute ones, she looks like a child and plots like machiavelli. ^_^
Anyone seen Spiderpaws lately? Big moon tonight.
jacqrat, i was thinking of her tonight when i was out looking at the moon through the clouds.
Ejaculation, we disregard,
Un-indicted,
And Hillary went to the mall.
punaise @ 297
thy will be done, by Eartha as you spin to Harlem.
Give us this day our whole wheat bread and for giving us strip club guest passes. As we four use those guest passes and deliver us good pizza.
For thine is the kingdom and the glory is yours, now and whenever Hillary wins election.
hey, Jacqrat! haven’t seen spiderpaws recently.
Amen.
Thanks for the assist with that punaise!
I love it when a thread breaks 300 comments before bedtime.
Hello! I always get here late.
Jacqrat – spiderpaws made very quick fly by a few nights ago.
Went for a very cold walk a little while ago and didn’t need a flashlight. It’s a beautiful night out there!
TRex @ 308
good writing will do that, TRex, and you have a lot of good writing in you.
TRex @ 308
I think I’m out of here after that prayer came out of me. Great job as usual Trex, see ya tomorry night.
Really off topic, but did anyone hear what Tom Brokaw said about Ford today? Was kind of a slam on the current regime, imho.
BROKAW:
It loses something in the transcript. It was more the way he delivered the words… sneering a bit.
I thought the same, Jacqrat, when I saw the clip on the news.
Suzanne @ 314
Brought a wee smile to my lips.!
And with that I gotta go to bed. Night!
On Jan. 1 I commented on Israeli Gen. Oded Tira’s comment last Saturday,
President Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran. As an American strike in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help him pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party (which is conducting itself foolishly) and US newspaper editors. We need to do this in order to turn the Iranian issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the Iraq failure.
We must turn to Hillary Clinton and other potential presidential candidates in the Democratic Party so that they publicly support immediate action by Bush against Iran. We should also approach European countries so that they support American actions in Iran, so that Bush will not be isolated in the international arena again.
I thought the guy was blowing it out his ass, but research on two things converged a while ago. I don’t want to turn this place into a hate-filled anti-Israel node with all the crap that brings, but he might not be just blowing it out his ass.
Gen. Tira keeps a real low web profile. But friends in Israel say he has made ‘predictor’ speeches and interviews in the past. He was in on the planning for the bombing, after the Lebanon cease-fire in August in NE Lebanon, which supposedly blew up trucks and warehouses suspected of harboring Hizbolah. The large farm destroyed by the bombing had the biggest contract for providing dairy products to the US forces in Iraq.
Guess what? The contract is now being filled by one of Tira’s cronies from when Tira was head of the israeli Association of Manufacturers.
I’m not going to write about it more here.
Suzanne @ 311
mealy-mouthed little ditch-rats was indeed damn good
Thinking of Harlem made me think of that silly little NYC band from the eighties! ESG – three Puerto Rican girls with a bass, a casio and drums.
I don’t know why.
Suzanne @ 311
Shucks, ma’am. Just doin’ muh job.
ET, if you decide to write about it more elsewhere, could you let me know at ten67x at aol dot com? I learn so much from what you write.
ES, Harlam always makes me think of Take a Walk On the Wild Side.
I think about Aretha.
“There is a rose in Spanish Harlem…”
That’s it for me.
Off to bed.
Nighters, all.
TRex @ 323
thank cue. signing off as well.
ET – The General who bombs a farm takes over its business. He sounds about a rotten as they come.
Wish you felt comfortable talking about it here because he is obviously a key figure. Fascinating stuff, imo.
Anyway I am glad somebody is watching him and making notes.
I am signing out as well.
g’nite all
Suzanne @ 320
I just sent you a test e-mail based on a statement you made here last week.
Happy to keep you posted on what I learn.
Someday we need to get past our inability to talk about that part of the equation. If pups can’t figure out how to talk about it, who can?
bothers me…
peace out
sent a reply back, et.
eurekaspringer way over at gmail spot com
If you care to share with another ET.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 328
hear hear, es, we have to figure out how to discuss all sensitive issues so they can be discussed.
I had to edit eurekaspringer not springser
g’nite
Eureka Springs, AR @ 325
That’s not quite what I said about what Gen. Tira appears to have participated in. I’m not alone in looking into who this character really is. I’m tempted to invite more Jewish Israeli peace activists to lurk and perhaps comment here, but….? They’re really busy trying to save their own country.
Ed*ard Teller @
275
I found all this out a couple of weeks ago while researching Obama’s religious bacground. The drugs must have been mentioned in a half-dozen places that I visited. He did them because, as he described it, he was a troubled youth and just didn’t care that much. He changed, or perhaps “grew up” would be a better term. Where have these folks been?
Ed*ard Teller @ 316
Sounds like Israel is doing its best to emulate our defense industry.
Anyway, if you can let me know if you write anything, I’d appreciate it, too. I’m cujo359 at the eearthlink net.
Well, three comments in a row, looks like I’m all alone here.
For the morning crew, I just gave Congress some fabulous advice. I doubt they’ll take it, though.
Laters.
Cujo359,
He grew up, like survivors in adverse circumstances often do. It will be interesting to see how this plays out if the wapo article gets traction. Edwards, who is shaping his campaign mostly to confront Obama, will be interesting to watch. Edwards appears to have hired some Lakoff-trained framers, so look for the inevitable Edwards campaign sound bites about Obama’s youth. They’ll probably be tested in local media around DC by Friday. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Edwards coming out faintly supporting Obama if the pundits jump on the senator. But enjoy watching how he does his support wrapup.
Cujo359 @ 335
I’ve bookmarked this thread, cujo. I’ll get back to you and ESAR tomorrow. Off to bed so the Doc can inspect my shoulder cast in the morning.
Ed*ard Teller,
Agreed. This certainly strikes me as a point in Obama’s favor – he’s lived through tough times and so he might be more inclined to understand others who have been or are in those tough times.
Edwards definitely has a refined message. He actually did pretty well with his message about poverty and the “Two Americas” thing last time out. He’s learned to take on potential opponents without sounding negative, which should help him in Iowa. Anyhow, right now I’m a lot more enthused about him than I am about any other potential candidates.
Well, with that, I really am out of here. Hope the shoulder’s getting better.
TRex @
92
339 replies and not one nomination for Hugh ‘Sugartits‘ Hewitt?
Tsk tsk
;>)
now that i’m probably speaking in an empty hall,
don’t forget little debbie and pool boy ………..
Look we all know the republicans are going to try to play obstructionist. And we all know the press is going to lap it up, because they are paid to. GW just wrotean op-ed to the WSJ which will be BEHIND THE PAYWALL. This tells you everything you need to know about this republican party. Everyone wonders where this core base of support are. Now we know. Apparently they subscribe to the WSJ. I say we buy the list from the WSJ and start working things backwards.
Corporations only stop abuse when they are forced either by lawyers or profitability issues. This is the only thing they understand. Republicans and their donors whose interest they have served so corruptly should be investigated out the wazzoo this next two years. We can start with media reform.
Good morning, all. Patience, I refuse to pay for the WSJ, so can’t help you there. Here are today’s columnists from the NYT. It’s Thomas Friedman and Maureen Dowd. Friedman ponders a hanging and a funeral, Dowd just riffs on the funeral.
http://mgpaquin.blogspot.com/2…..g-and.html
F*cking Tweety blathering Repug talking points on Today Show this morning. I am going to have to fire up the email and send a message to that moron, assuming he can and will read it.
Repeatedly said that Democrats are anti-war.
Bullsh*t. All the Democratic Party members I know are anti- THIS war, a war forced on us by the tyranny of a scant majority, a war forced on us with nothing but the tissue of lies.
None of the Democratic Party members I know would not fight to the death if we were truly under a real threat. But Tweety hasn’t gotten that message from the RNC yet: there was no real threat, ever.
The only real threat to our American way of life is crappy, non-existent reporting purveyed by talking heads who fail to act like a true Fourth Estate (read: Tweety).
When have they not portrayed themselves as victims of liberalism, constantly under assault from the left, nobly and bravely holding back the tide against all odds, in order the protect the American? They are masters at this.
woops, “American people” – can’t get edit to work.
Rayne & Mandrake -
Amen, sisters!
Jacqrat @ 290
So if you oppose warrantless domestic spying, banning torture, and restoring civil liberties, you are automatically called a liberal.
This is the msm we are up against, despite the majority. Somehow, they must be forced to eat the same dirt as the Republicans.
Waccamaw @ 347
Howdy, Waccamaw!
Heh. I forgot to wish everyone a good morning before I started on my rant! Must be the full moon — agh, haven’t slept well for the last two nights, am now completely on edge for it.
I’ll have to use that edge appropriately (read: Tweety).
Here’s Fred Hiatt, repeating Republican whining points.
Go ahead and blast him in the comments, I did.
How about a New Years resolution, Fred Hiatt: try to rein in your hypocrisy in 2007. The Republicans are now the minority party by a wide margin, in spite of their gerrymandering, because they earned it. Nobody owes them a damn thing, quite the reverse, in fact.
By ifthethunderdontgetya | Jan 3, 2007 7:36:12 AM | Request Removal
Mornin’, Mandrake,
Have you checked your e-mail from Monday nite?
gonna be on the other side of the aisle on this one, this is a two part post, the first part goes along with the strong arm tactics we have to employ, the second part sides with the gop position
first;
we have to strong arm back the law and treasure that was taken from the middle class and given to rich people, this cannot be negotiated, if a republican wants to get on board with these returns they are welcome, but they are not welcome to put a monkey wrench in the works;
return bankruptcy protection IN FULL, none of this “for catastropic ememrgencies”", NONE OF THAT, if a lender wants to be in the industry THEY ASSUME THE EXPENSE OF BANKRUPTCY PROTECTION FOR EVERYONE
of course, RETURN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO FULL POWER, remove, rescind AND REVOKE the administrations unique, novel and TREASONOUS interperation of our law
RESCIND PERSONHOOD FOR CORPORATIONS;
we are a government FOR THE PEOPLE BY PEOPLE, we are NOT a government for corporations, by corporations
PUBLIC FINANCING OF CAMPAIGNS
NO FOREIGN TRADE WITH COUNTRIES THAT DON’T HAVE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING FOR THEIR WORK FORCE
RESTORE THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE, and along those lines, MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE for an entity to controll more then a few venues in media, THAT IS A BIG ONE
ok, there are a bunch of other agenda, but once those items are addressed we have to realize we won’t always enjoy a majority
part two;
we have to place into law methods for the minority to FORCE legislation AND HAVE IT VOTED ON
we have to put in a locked box thew philibuster and MAKE THE NUCLEAR OPTION IMPOSSILBE TO CONSIDER
so all of that was off the top of my head, I’m sure there are other principles that I’ve missed and have to be addressed, but we really do need to protect the minority position in the party, the way the media is controlled by corporations we will be a minority soon enough
On the other side of this letter, they wrote “KICK ME” in big letters, hoping to tape it to Pelosi’s back.
This reminds me of everybody’s favorite moment from “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” when the big guy was waving his scimitar, counting on Indiana Jones to fight on his terms. Indy, with a priceless look of exasperation, simply shot him.
Just like Mr. Scimitar, the Goops are in for a big surprise.
ifthethunderdontgetya (351) — I respectfully beg to differ on this point:
Nobody owes them a damn thing
Oh, we most certainly do; we owe them the just and fair leadership they failed to provide the American public. We owe them a lesson in how to lead responsibly with humility and effectiveness.
Payback? That’s the cosmos’ job, and I think they’re going to get Karmageddon all on their own.
Stuart Eugene Thiel @ 354
From your mouth to God’s ear! ;-)
Rayne @ 355
I gotta side with Rayne here. Rayne is describing the difference between mature, responsible leadership and petty spoiled fratboy payback.
Remember, the Daddy party is gone. We promised the American people the choice between the Mommy party and the spoiled juvenille fratboy party. We gotta make good–that was basically our entire platform.
And besides, it’s the right thing to do.
Having said that, I think we should be a VERY firm and determined Mommy who does not allow the spoiled frat boys to get away with murder.
Rayne @ 355
Lesson the First: Those who led the 109th Congress (two years of infamy) shouldn’t be listened to.
the president pens an op ed in the wall street journal and it’s as if he thinks everyone is in the same bubble he’s in.
he actually claims the deficit will be balanced if we continue his borrow and spend policies, he actually brings up 9/11 as if it’s associated with Iraq
and he makes this bizarre statement;
EXCUSE ME?
the democrats BETTER make political statements, THEY BETTER make it CLEAR his presidency is A MISERABLE FAILURE, and if HE wants a fruitful presidency then HE had better act with congress, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, if he doesn’t want a stalemate HE better act WITH THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS and STOP trying to get us to follow his BIZARRE interpretation of the world, politics and life
LHP, those Goopers whining about fairness have already made clear their agenda: they want to obstruct the promises made by the Democrats for the first 100 days.
If you and rayne are arguing about semantics, fine. If you are actually saying let’s let the Republican minority sabotage the start of the 110th, I’m going to say hell, no.
‘Bout time for the Leaders of the Lake to open up for breakfast; wonder what’s on the menu?
Waccamaw @ 361
you can get anything you want at jane and christy’s bloggeraunt
Christy’s serving that firm-handed mommy business upstairs. ;-)
But you have to keep your eye on these damn WaPo reporters. Note this paragraph:
The Democratic majority is bigger than the Republican majority for the last three terms. That majority was variously labeled as solid, impregnable, in place for a generation at least.
The larger democratic majority is labeled “slender.” They’re setting us up for the divided democrats meme, even while they claim that bipartisanship is up to Pelosi.
See what our response should be, via atrios.
ifthethunderdontgetya — um, do I strike you as the kind of person who’d actually welcome Repug obstruction?
We have a failure to communicate if that’s the case.
I’m simply saying that the Democratic Party has a clear majority in Congress for the purposes of governing as the public asks; we are not there simply to b*tch-slap the Republicans, as tempting and appetizing as that may sound. We have an obligation to uphold and defend the Constitution, it’s as simple as that.
Good morning.
Minnesota now has snow. My local area got about 9 inches but generally the state received about 3-5. Now it is melting.
As far as how the dems now in power should treat the republicans – treat them as an abuser who is saying he is sorry. OOOOOhhhhh so sorry. Won’t happen again.
or are they saying ‘listen up you trash, if you are good, no more beatings.’
If an abused person returns to the abuser, be wary and never trust they will act in good faith. And be ready to fight for your life.
Rayne @ 365
Yes we have a failure to communicate. Read the editorial (by Fred Hiatt, I presume) where my comment was originally posted.
Listening to a very ANGRY Repug on C-SPAN, talking with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. The older Repug woman is FURIOUS about the Medicare D program, says that the party has been hijacked by neo-cons and that neo-cons should be their own party.
This is why we should NOT be in their face about partisanship, why we couch and frame our efforts around what is called for under the American Constitution, by what is good for Americans (see jayackroyd’s link above). WE as Democrats have not been elected to be partisan, but to serve the American public, and we should tell the public at large that we are doing just that.
It is up to us, though, to push back on anything and everything that is a Republican talking point and make it clear that it is their partisanship that cost them the confidence of the American public, and we should go so far as to say that it is the neo-conservative agenda that has done them in, so that angry Republicans like the one on C-SPAN feel comfortable with leaving their party and voting across the aisle. Helping the traditional conservatives save face by building a different “other” (neo-conservatives) will encourage them to see Democrats differently.
And in no fricking way am I suggesting that we cave on our objectives. We have to save this country, and we must do so with all due haste. But doing so means having a veto-proof majority in the Senate; we have to give a handful of Republican Senators adequate air cover to side with us in order to put the screws to Bush.
Waccamaw @ 361
Republican Crow