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Gregg Sargent still wants to know, and so do I — where are all the reporters who were so damned agitated about Ned Lamont's Halliburton stock, or his tax returns, or the global implications of his membership in a country club, who ate up every story pushed out there by the Lieberman PR team, who pursued them doggedly (at least until it turned out Lieberman had Halliburton stock too, then it was dropped like a hot potato), and why aren't they asking Lieberman what military commanders he's talking to who think a "troop surge" (read: escalation) in Iraq is a good idea?
I know the fact that the American military death toll in the McCain/Lieberman war is now 3000 finds people like Sue Haigh, Jenny Medina, Mark Davis, Jodi Wilgoren, Anne Kornblut, Chris Matthews and Nick Confessore quite nonplussed, but we're getting ready to most assuredly send more Americans to their death due to the misguided notions of a man who has been wrong about everything all the time and at every turn with regard to his eponymous war. The same man who said that troops would start coming home now, that things were getting "better" in Iraq, who claimed that nobody wanted to bring the troops home more than him.
Do they think they could bother to work up just a wee little bit of the concern they lavished on the phony story of Joe's website being hacked and ask Lieberman exactly which "commanders" he spoke with in Iraq, and to name the ones who are asking him to increase troop levels? I'm sure it's not going to have the earth shaking gravity of Ned Lamont's tax returns or Bill Clinton's jock, but it would be nice if they pretended they care and put a few tepid questions to Joe, if only for a show.
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Love that picture!
Hey it’s just a number ask tony snow you don’t believe me
And Tony Snow is from Ohio. We are so ashamed of him. A lap puppet, a marionette.
When are the Decider and Holy Joe going to say enough Americans have died supporting their war? What is the number? It was not 3,000. Will it be when we have exceeded the VietNam War’s total? Or are we waiting for the number of dead American soldiers to exceed WWII’s?
Check out “Faces of the Dead” at the NYTimes website. Just click on any one of the thousands of squares, and a picture of the dead soldier will appear, along with info about him/her. Very moving. repubs should be required to click on each and every one….and memorize the faces.
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/us/….._TAB1.html
Jane, going back to the salon thread, I would love to see current media representatives here to explain to me how they cover what they determine to be news.
(edited to correct typo)
Jane, there you go with that wishful thinking again.
You now expect the MSM to actually do their jobs in an intelligent, unbiased, thoughtful manner?
But, seeing as the only way we could ever get them to do any better is continually hold their feet to the fire I guess we need to keep screaming.
They are not after Lieberman because the horse race is over; because there’s no ratings in it; because the producer doesn’t understand the issue and thinks people will turn the channel. A young (rich) upstart challenging an old soldier and (maybe) having baggage of his own, that’s sellable as news and as advertising. Tracking down Lieberman’s promises and reality, well, that gets into the details and the producers are scared shitless of the details, that viewers will click to some other cable show and they’ll lose some of their all-important Ford truck ad revenue. They can’t have anything on the show that requires thought. Dumbing us down is what attracts ad buys. Plus I also think many people around here are correct: the Word From On High is to not challenge the president or his supporters. Gets in the way of share prices and of course ad revenue.
Never. Do you actually imagine they give a shit?
Oh great, DH out of town on New Years Eve. Guess I will open my little kahlua and do a little spotlighting.
David Ehrenstein @ 9
No, I have no such illusions.
I still want to know about Holy Joe’s Petty Cash “problem” and intend to follow-up about what happened to that investigation!!
Probably died because Hill and Bill and Harry and Chuck and Barak were behind it in the first place!
David Ehrenstein @ 8
It is their JOB to give a shit and it is way past time for them to be explaining to America why they decided to not give a shit.
What used to really f’ing tee me off was when I heard these pundits telling us that George wasn’t actually a dummy; that we were selling the prez short. Yeah right.
ReneND @
10
When I read that over I saw “kahlua and shoplifting.”
I envisioned quite an adventure.
The Decider’s been makin wrong decisions his entire life – lucky for him he had his social safety net – Dad and his mega-rich friends. Don’t forget that the Arbusto Ranger decided away Sammy Sosa, too.
“Hey kids, Can you guess which one of us was the C student?” – close to an actual quote.
Here is a reporter on top of it. (Its a rare day I link to Novakula :) Damn my eyes!
BTW I’m looking forward to New Year’s eve with TRex. I never go out because the firecrackers on the beach freak out the dogs, so I’ll drug ‘em in a bit and cuddle ‘em for a contact high.
Nothing like a pack of giant stoned poodles for New Year’s eve.
That graphic up top looks like it could make a nice stamp. It would be fun to slap that on outgoing mail this new year. Wonder if it would be legal?
Had today been 1974, how many of the 10s of thousands of wounded Marines and soldiers would now be dead?? Some of the more radical conservatives that I know keep harping that there have been so few fatalities compared to D-Day. Who gives a rip, our medical technology is vastly different than 60 years ago. Penicillin wasn’t widely available then. So, there is no comparison that way.
Where was Joe in 1974??
Jane Hamsher @ 15
Ha!! Not likely. I spent a good part of the afternoon going through closets for a final tax donation. I thought I’d have more closet space to show for all of those bags.
Can you believe that a man who lacks even the smallest iota of human empathy – a man who openly mocked Karla Faye Tucker as she pleaded for her life – and the voters knew it! – is the president of the United States?
I would venture to sat that our actual number killed is closer to 11,000 than it is to 3,000. Maybe if we forced the admin to be truly accountable, the truth could save lives in the future.
man who has been wrong about everything all the time and at every turn with regard to his eponymous war.
This worries me. I know Lieberman has done a great deal to enable this war — but it’s not Lieberman’s war. It’s Bush’s war. And Cheney’s war. And Rumsfeld’s war. And PNAC’s war.
I want the blame to remain firmly where it belongs. And I worry that letting it take hold that it’s Lieberman’s war is only a short step to it becoming a Democratic war in the years ahead.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 14
Nobody could pretend to be that f**king ignorant for an entire decade. Now Jim Carey or Will Farrell can fool you for a few hours.
Why do you think they would care? Do you really think there are more than half a dozen in the media and half a dozen in Washington (Dems AND Reps) who give a damn as long as they can fake it?
A splash or two of Korbel Brut tonight here at home and then beddy bye. Happy New Year!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 27
And to you. Time for me to start checking out the yahoo chats for Clark 08.
I’m gonna read my book, The Story Of Britain – From The Romans To The Present , by Rebecca Fraser.
Catch y’all later.
Yo Jane,
You guys had a a hell of a year posting here at the lake. Thanks for giving all of these unbelievable commenters/organizers/activists a community to do their thing. And thanks to all ya’ll for getting me up the curve a bit on political activism.
I don’t underestimate the impact that this website had in changing the course of history which was the election of a Democratic congress.
Our majority must take this opportunity to smash these greedy republicrook cronies into a million little pieces so their ghosts can never haunt our Democracy again.
Nobody better pull a “Ford” and avoid a fight for the good of the country. We saw how that turned out with the second coming of the neocon antichrists in this administration and the terror and misery they have wrought.
I’ll be here ringing in the new year with ya’ll here at the lake. In between a fine cigar on the screened porch and a couple of football games. It’s 65 degrees and rainy here in ATL. My favorite weather for an evening out there.
Much Love and Cheers!
Jane,
We are still waiting for an explanation of just how Lieberman’s goons got away with the “web site hacking” fraud that turned out to be a ploy. (The Stamford Advocate is filing for an FOI on this). Never mind the slush fund money that went “missing”. If the local media isn’t going to ask the simple questions, I guess it’s a long shot that the national media would even bother to wonder about Liberman’s “expert” advice on Iraq.
Dan Senor had the audacity to say on This Week that the NeoCons basically resurrected Joe and won the election for him, in spite of the fact that the Democrats didn’t want him any more.
So much for the democratic process and freedom of the press. The system is broken.
flory @ 24
I’m sorry but Joe Lieberman gets credit for this war along with his neocon friend John McCain. At a speech to NATO before the 2004 election, Lieberman claimed that the Bush policy was a direct result of the Lieberman/McCain policy of regime change in Iraq. When he thought it would go well, he wanted credit for it; he wanted to be viewed by history as the author of the policy. Well, I’ll give him the credit, and so should we all.
With only about 30% of the military still supporting the war (according to Stars and Stripes), I guess Liarman is stalking the 30%.
Happy New Beer!11!
There are many who get to share in the responsibility for this Iraq horror. But I have a soft spot in my heart for those who realize they made a mistake in supporting this war and own up to it. I think Americans like folks who admit they blew it, and then try to do the right thing.
ReneND @
19
Does’t the USPS have a place where you can slap you own face on a stamp? You have to pay more than 37 cents for each one, but OOOOOHH, how tempting this would be….!
T- @ 30
Much love and cheers to you, too. Thanks for pitching in, you (and everyone else) make it worth it.
bg @ 34
Do you have a link for this?
Jane Hamsher @
18
Thanks, Jane, for staying in with the rest of us dog-lovers and deranged politicos. Around here, we have not only firecrackers but occasional gunshots to deal with (why is it an act of celebration on 12/31 and 7/4, every year, to shoot at the sky??). I’ll put a stoned border collie up against those poodles, though. “Now, where did I leave those sheep? I just know they’re around here somewhere….Now give me the rest of my cuddle!”
[pushing back from computer to pour me single malt scotch, liberally]
Can I get ya’ll a fine scotch or bourbon? Got some Macallan 15, Glenlivet 12 and a Dewars SR 12. Booker’s, Blanton’s and Woodford Reserve, all from Kentucky.
Think I’ll have the Mac 15.
Whaddyahave?
1,380 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Flory and the Firepup Patriots:
“I want the blame to remain firmly where it belongs…”
Hear, hear!!! Yes indeed, that’s where it’s gunna stay, right with the neocons (of which Joe Likuderman is one) and the Bush fascists. There now is not any hope for folks like McCain to “blame the Generals or the Jews” for
a “stab in the back”…no dear, ol’ Joe gets to take credit for this war as surely as he will go down in history as an UNdemocrat along with his neocon brothers.
Remember when Joe lied to the people of CT saying he wanted our troops out of Iraq? And that things were going well there? Where’s the media calling him out on THAT.
They may call it politics. I call it fraud.
Jane Hamsher @
38
Sorry, Military Times. I heard it on NPR tonight. http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..Id=6704199
ReneND @ 19
That’s a damn good idea. I just tried it over at zazzle and it looks great as a stamp.
If we could get the price down, I’d definitely throw up a link. And buy a few.
Blue Dido @ 39
Yeah we get gunfire on the beach too. Kobe and Lucy wig out. Katie doesn’t care.
If we really want to make the pic up top a stamp…
http://photo.stamps.com/Store/?source=si10325744
or
http://www.zazzle.com/stamps/?…..gb35pi1ai1 picture stamps&ovtac=PPC&SR=sr2zz104go3970gb35pi1ai1
Now wouldn’t that just frost W’s buns…
Hey Norske,
Happy New Year!
KEEP THE FAITH AND WHEN YOU GOT ‘EM DOWN, STEP ON THEIR NECKS A LITTLE HARDER!
Why do people like to shoot guns off on New Years eve. What’s the draw?
Hi firepups, rabid lambs, and stoned poodles – wishing a wonderful New Year for all at the Lake
….and in the wide world outside.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 48
Beats me. I guess there are some folks who just like making meaningless noise. Hmmm… Sounds like the current administration, doesn’t it?
Oh, kirk murphy @ 6:17, I had forgotten about the “rabid lambs.” I wonder if they’ll come up with another equally amusing moniker in 2007?
Jane – I left you some thoughts on Pres. Carter on your FDR Salon post at #182 – company arrived and just left – and now discovered I neglected submit. Just an idea about reapproaching his office that may or may not prove helpful.
Marion in Savannah @
36
Ok. I actually went to check this out. They have a whole list of can’ts. I’m guessing it fits the “inflammatory” part. darnit.
as I was ironing a pair of pants I couldn’t help but reflect upon TRex’s cruel revelation a few days ago that pleats are not cool.
newspaperbrat @ 52
vive le reapproachement
Jane Hamsher @ 18
Some things are enjoyable any night of the year. But I agree, New Year’s eve probably makes it all the more special.
Jane Hamsher @
45
Lucky Katie. Our four-legged boss disapproves of *all* unexpected, unauthorized loud noises. Thank God we’re getting a little rain, which should cut down on this mystifying form of holiday Americana.
Happy New Year, everybody. Many thanks for FDL!
Thanks but no, T, already sipping a cheap merlot to save myself for “spewmante” at midnight with the kids.
Hubby and the tweenager have started a batch of Cinnabon-type rolls, now in their second rise while they watch a movie with the little guy.
I’m waiting for a batch of pagnotta to finish its second rise, hope to get it baked in time to serve with mussels in white wine and butter at midnight.
It’s not a big party with streamers and horns and crackers, but it’s intimate and it restorative, and I can manage to hang at the Lake at the same time. In other words, the bases are covered – and I don’t even have to walk the poodles! ;-)
pack of giant stoned poodles
Easter Island, explained
Marion in Savannah @ 51
stoned poodles?
edit:
giant stoned poodles?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 48
Hey city folks, be sure and stay indoors (or under a porch) because those bullets must come down and they do at a lethal velocity. thank you
Jane Hamsher @ 44
So, would it be a legal stamp or just something to put down on the corner of the envelope?
Lots of conditions on stamps.com.
back from loading the band for their NYE gig. Whew!
Jane queried why aren’t they asking Lieberman what military commanders he’s talking to who think a “troop surge” (read: escalation) in Iraq is a good idea?
I’ve discovered their names. When HoJo questioned them three weeks ago, they were Col. Cherry and Maj. Pickens.
They are now Gen. Cherry and Col. Pickens.
punaise @ 59
Hi, punaise. I finally got my photos of the Ohio Repukelickan Party HQ uploaded. These photos stink, compared to the originals (of course, the originals would blow out my entire upload limit for geocities for one hour, in two views).
So I’ve got a lot to learn about photoshop, but at least now I know that I’ve got a learn.
kirk murphy @ 60
see #18
Happy New Year to Jane and her pack of drugged poodles, Christy and her peanut and tiny hot dog, Pach, Our dinosaur and thousands of firepups scattered across the land.
Maybe 07 will see some accountability. If FDL has any influence maybe, just maybe we will.
See ya in 07…
We have been snowed in. The cats have not been outside for two days and have serious ca(t)bin fever. And of course, it is easy to understand why Miss Sissy (for one) is a good cat but not a nice one. Catnip Fiesta will be a good distraction; there are no nasty drunks among them.
with the death of gerald ford i expected someone to compare and contrast:
vietnam and iraq
nixon crimes and bush crimes
impeachment then and now
but, no, i haven’t heard a peep.
what the hell is going on in this country.
ReneND @
53
Then I guess this
wouldn’t be approved….
All of this pressure that FDL, MM4A and others have been putting on the MSM is kickass and extremely worthwhile, but in the end it ALONE wont change much. I have concluded that the insider DC media establishment cocktail circuit is so entrenched that it matters not a whit how obviously hypocritical it is revealed to be; they will insist that their faux centrism trumps everything to the bitter end.
If there were a direct action component involving nonviolent occupations and boycotts, things might change a wee quicker as our messages receive fresh attention. The corporations acquired the fear of God in Seattle because they know as well as we do that “Direct action gets the goods.” It would have to be strategic and decentralized and across constituencies, and ained at the corporate bottom line, but we have the infrastructure to do alot in that direction now. Im just sayin’!
Great work on the media front. The corporate promotion of self-interested schoolyard bullies and chattering ninnies to the forefront of the national conversation continues to be the national disgrace it is, and the main obstacle to progress on behalf of the majority of Americans who are sick of the Neocon stranglehold but unsure of what to do about it. All tools in the nonviolent toolbox should be brought to bear, carefully and strategically.
ifthethunderdontgetya @
64
hey, thunder! would that would be the HQ whose windows some guy was recently arrested for piercing with rocks?
Jane, there is a site set up (appealforredress.org) to petition congress to withdraw from Iraq. This petition comes from active military.
If you search “military petition to congress” you’ll find a lot of activity by the military trying to get the troops out of Iraq.
punaise @ 65
punaise, I confess:
#18 was the muse here….
MM4A
Que?
Even giant stoned poodle’s contempt for lieberman knows no bounds!
Jim Clausen @ 75
Leaps, maybe, but no bounds….
Rayne,
sounds like a wonderful evening. I feel the same way about covered bases. Now I hope my spreads get covered. Had a dream the other nite and you were in it. Don’t worry, it wasn’t creepy. You turned out to be some dude I used to play soccer with. Quite random, but I was pleased to know you.
Hey, don’t leave Blitzer off that list. He had Holy Joe on today and I don’t recall him questioning a thing Joe spewed. Just a nice little conversation with Lieberman recommending the escalation of war under false pretenses, but no one is supposed to notice. Just reasonable Holy Joe, who has conversations with the military that seem to differ from the conversations of everyone else, has divined that more killing is the answer. Just a reassessment of who the enemy is and how to export the slaughter to encompass other populations. Hey Joe, whose battles are you waging? They don’t seem to benefit the US. So tell us what’s your great goal? And Joe, it is your war, and Joe – if anyone wants to blame the Democratic Party for you, here’s a flash. You are a pretender. You call yourself an Independent Democrat. Joe you’re no Democrat, you’re a Rubber Stamp. One more thing. I know you agree with the President, that it would be wrong to converse with Syria or Iran. Wrong again! Ya know what people have underestimated you. You’re not just an annoying, egotistical, whining ass. You are an annoying, egotistical, whining DANGEROUS ASS. So what exactly is the motivation? It’s not patriotism, or conviction. Why the big sales pitch? Oh nevermind, we already know the answer.
scarecrow @
32
And, let us not forget, that in a rather more specific way, he co-authored and co-sponsored the Iraq invasion resolution. From the very start, it was the prints from his pudgy little fingers that were on this war.
This little asshole was eager for it. We should never forget that.
T- @ 40
Blanton’s is good stuff. Haven’t tried the Bookers. Not a fan of the Woodford. I do like LaFroaig. IIRC, somebody else here likes Lafroiag too.
I’ll take some of that 15 Mac, T. And Happy New Year to all you FireDogs! Just chilling watching the Bears get spanked and getting ready to pop the cork on some sparkling juice for the kiddies.
And Joe sucks ass. So do the heads on sticks.
punaise @ 71
Yes, it would be the same cancer ridden HQ.
I did not fling, cast, or catapult any rocks toward said den of inequity.
No matter how tempting.
flory @
24
From Joe’s NATO speech:
I respectfully suggest that the nations of Europe define their positions on Iraq independently and affirmatively – not in reaction to America or its President. As you know, I am a Democrat. In fact, I’m a Democrat seeking to replace George Bush in the Oval Office. But he and I agree on the danger posed by Saddam and the need to do something soon to eliminate that danger to us, to you, and most immediately to his neighbors in the Arab world as do most other Democrats, Republicans, and Independents in the US. In fact, five years ago, after Saddam ejected the UN inspectors, John McCain and I gave up on containment and introduced the Iraqi Liberation Act, which, when it became law, made a change of regime in Baghdad official US policy. You might therefore say that, when it comes to Iraq, President Bush is just enforcing the McCain-Lieberman policy.
As they say, read the whole thing.
The Dark Ages were dark because nobody was writing anything down.
hackworth @ 84
They were only dark in Europe.
Anyone have some champers? Early yet…
hackworth @ 81
Bookers is actually Jim Beam’s top shelf, but it tastes like they’ve got nothing to do with it. My bottle is 120 proof (hand checked w/ hydrometer) so one needs to know what they’re dealing with when drinking it. I do like laphroiag, at least the second one. The first few sips is mediciney, but it does grow on me.
Mommybrain @ 86
Umm, Edina and Patsy do, of course.
catch you all next year!
bonne annee a tous…
Twisted-
[glug, glug, glug]
Here’s a double, up.
Are MSM people being careful because they figure the 2008 ticket will be McCain-Lieberman?
Are they hedging their bets?
T – heh, funny, that. Definitely not soccer.
Although I’m not much into resolutions, it’s time for me to get back into shape, have fallen into horrible disrepair that must be fixed so I can play soccer. The nine-year-old has been nagging he has no one to practice with at home, guess it’s going to be me.
And last weekend’s wipe out on my scooter cinched it, should NOT have lost control like that. Was trying to pick up some speed on a 10-degree downhill incline, squatted and did a flip over the handle bars. Heard my neck crack — was scared at first, couldn’t see crap since my glasses skidded off and away over the pavement. Only ended up with scuffed pants and a bruised *ss for it, thank the stars.
Too much Cuervo Gold and Reposado later that night, too. I’m either going to have get back in shape or slow down a lot; I pick the former. And then maybe you’ll have the right “dude” in your dreams.
Happy New Year to Jane, Christy, TRex, Pach, and all the other regulars here at FDL. This is totally off topic but I wrote/recorded a brief cowboy movie theme that I keep thinking might serve as background music for a political Youtube commentary about the “all hat, no cattle” hypocrisy of the Bush/Cheney bunch and the 101st Fighting Keyboardists. If someone has a use for it, let me know.
Nice! At at my in-laws, and he is a huge single malt fan. On his bar is a bottle of Oban, Talisker, Lagavulin, Dalwhinnie, Pinch, Bowmore. Under is the Glenlivet, Chivas and any other liquor you could want. Skaal!
Toto @ 70
Watched the State funeral with the in=laws. Heard the heads talking about how during the Vietnam war protests, they had troops hidden away, ready in case of an insurrection.
Think this has changed?
There was so much irony in the public speeches of Cheney et al. They were talking about Nixon and how mad the public was at him and at government in general. I got several of those looks as I snickered into the dishwater while the rest gathered in front of the tube.
jeffreyw @ 83
When the list is made up for the roster@ the Hauge,I am sure they will remember you Joe,as well as evey person of either party who continued to support this abortion-war-of-choice when it became clear we were LIED into it
Can you imagine. President McCain and Vice President Lieberman have just declared war is imminent.
HotFlash @ 85
I don’t know the history of too many countries outside of Europe and North America, but the history of Japan and Korea from that time sound remarkably similar to Europe’s.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 97
Na. Ga. Happen.
Mommybrain @ 95
There was/is lotsa plans to “deal” with protest.The most effective I have seen is the mainstream media “blackout”to the most of the country….remember what really happened when the war started….millions of protesters…not a word on TV
jeffreyw @ 83
Reading is believing — thanks jefferyw.
Bookers dude.
joining you all … got a bit of flu so it’s a quiet night here with Omar the pup merrily chmbing on a chew and daughter out with her friends doing whatever 20 yr olds do …
been watching Discovery about a bad climb of Everest … two climbers too concerned with their own glory to protect the lives of their sherpas and comrades … reminded me of W and crew …
deadissue @ 91
It’s not bet-hedging, it’s payback. The media moguls are making buckets of cash since the GOP deregulated them so they could assemble enormous multi-outlet corporate empires that would make Teddy Roosevelt blush.
Siun @ 102
My wife is totally into that show…I agree with you, very selfish of some of those people to threaten the lives of their comrades for their own egos. Bought her “Into Thin Air” for Christmas.
Sorry about the flu, Siun, hope you are feeling better very soon.
Pagnotta in the oven. Mmm.
What’s Pagnotta?
Twisted – see if you can find an old copy – maybe at one of the online book companies – of A Woman’s Place is on Top which is the account of the first women’s ascent … tragic but also brilliant. I have a copy here if she would ever like to borrow – it’s a little ratty (found in a library basement) but worth the read.
snuffy @ 100
And still it is known. Now there are many more in opposition. It gets harder to ignore reality. Even with the happy talk and prognosticators of doom, the people have stopped believing. There are now many more of us than them. We have stopped being afraid.
My Siamese loves three things. Bacon, beer and me. In that order. So, every New Years Eve she gets a little of the first two. And the rest of the year, a lot of the last.
I wonder. Will next year be as scary as the last?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 110
Let’s hope that next year will be as scary for Bush as the last has been for the rest of us….
Siun, found it on Amazon. Title has been changed to Annapurna: a woman’s place Some Thug probably complained about the suggestive title! Thanks for the tip.
montag @ 111
The bright news: on January 4, Bush will start finding his stamp to be a little less rubber. Share and enjoy!
Good night, all. I’ve made it a habit to tuck up early every New Year’s Eve since Guy Lombardo took it with him. (Dick Clark? Dick Clark? DICK CLARK??? Puhleeeze..) Besides, the Meezer is glaring at me from the pillow. I’ll see y’all in 2007.
neokneme @ 101
not even punaise could make up this kind of shite and onions. self-annointed shills….
marksb @ 8
I wonder what would happen if we all chose an economic boycott strategy with the MSM and flooded them with news of our decision.
I for one will also pray for peace and that it is not hopeless.
I’m guessing TRex is about to thunder on stage for the last bow of the year. . .
Twisted – that’s great news and it’s good to know it’s still available. I’ve never had the slightest desire to climb … not even a twinge! but I love watching mountains (a favorite activity when I lived at the base of Monadnock in NH) and tales like the Anapurna book say a lot about something powerful.
I also really appreciate Starhawk’s Walking to Mercury which tells the tale of a wise woman carrying her mother’s ashes to bury on Everest. Not a mountaineering book but an Everest tale (as well as a tale of the 60s and resistance and all sorts of stuff) – if your wife connects with the politics, it teaches a lot, including a lot of Everest:
http://www.starhawk.org/writin…..rcury.html
Happy New Year Jane and your puppies too! Who da thunk this site would rock like this just such a short time ago when we all were struggling to find a voice and audience. Great job and great team.
Umm, other dire predictions from the American public, but, now we know the extent of Bush’s base:
[In 2007] 25 percent [of Americans] anticipate the second coming of Jesus Christ.
This apparently does not include Atlas Buggs, who thinks he’s already arrived in the body of John Bolton….
Asquirrel hiller @ 68
AMEN!!! I’ve wondered the same. How could we create an effective demand for such coverage?
Peace to the world.
I want our boys and girls home from Iraq!!! And that’s that!
‘07 ain’t gonna be Heaven, George.
I have two choices before me this next year. I retire two massive debts in the next 45 days. I can continue my hurculean workload and forward excess proceeds to progressive causes, or make a career change and dedicate more time.
For the old-timers here, they will understand, based on a previous post of mine, it is a question of value.
Where doth my greater skill lie?
The ancient Greeks said, upon Plato’s conclusion:
“How well he spoke.”
And when Diogenes, the Gadfly of Athens, spoke.
“We Marched.”
Decisions, decisions. A little help here people.
I’m rather amazed that McCain and Lieberman claim credit for the foreign policy to take down Saddam Hussein and that Lieberman now claims it is that policy which is the reason we went into Iraq. Doesn’t he remember Bush said it was to prevent Saddam from sending tiny little remote-control airplanes to attack America with nuclear weapons?
These self-congratulatory statements make me think our foreign policy has been bi-partisan all along (after all we all heard about the policy to dethrone Saddam back during Clinton’s administration).
Of course, Bushie went too far, using 9/11, as a reason to fear from Saddam and to attack Iraq. That was the illegal step over the line. The war was lost at that moment.
Teddy Roosevelt said it’s not important whether America shall win or lose so much as whether the Right (righteousness) will prevail. Clearly it has not and we are lost.
This entire time of the Bush administration has been so surreal and still it amazes me that a Senator would claim credit for an illegal activity, possibly a war-crime.
WTF?
Oilfieldguy @ 124
Do it all.
MarkH @ 125
Because he has a reasonable expectation of never being tried for war crimes, as do the rest of the people who made them happen.
And, he’s not that bright.
Oilfieldguy @ 124
Retire the debt, work for change. Good people are more valuable than their weight in greenbacks.
ofg -
Your greatest skill is what you bring to both – and what you can do in the future.
Hope you use the proceeds to give yourself freedom (and greater health) and the progressive causes more time.
There will always be more donors.
The global supply of oilfieldguys is quite limited – please conserve it!
Twisted Martini — oops, sorry, was away to snuggle on the couch with the little guy while he drifted off. It’ll be just me and hubby to greet the new year here, the little folks have both tuckered out and tucked in.
Pagnotta is a rustic Italian loaf, made with a biga or starter. First time I’ve made it, looks damned tasty now that it’s out of the oven and cooling. (Link to recipe that is similar to the one I’m using.)
big feet in blue underwear upstairs….
ofg–first, take care of yourself.
If you have the resources to start as a volunteer, you could go to the Edwards HQ (just an example) ask what you can do to help and in the process, show your stuff. If you are really interested in working for change, and campaign work appeals to you, I believe you will be invaluable and a lot of doors will open.
I met a very interesting person who just went as a volunteer, jumped on a band wagon and soon was helping with a major national campaign. I could not believe it would happen that way, but it did.
Of course, as the campaign becomes hot, then lots of the terrible people giving bad advice for a lot of money show up, and then who knows?
But I think it would be worthwhile to give Edwards a chance. . .don’t know if he appeals to you, but you could be inside easily, I believe.
Oh dear, my underwear aren’t red, either.
[sigh]
Damnitall, didn’t get the memo once again! Hope that changes in 2007!
OFG -
Whatever it takes to magnify your voice. It resonates with folks that have been duped into voting for their/our demise.
Retire your debts, and your freedom from those chains that bind will benefit us all.
Your comment on the Requiem thread (and I paraphrase)
was one of the most vivid and heartfelt ever on FDL.
I read and comprehend the suggestions.
OK kiddo, I am afraid it truly does come down to an either–or proposition.
Tossing out pertinent comments on a blog and occasional witty posts on my own does not in and of itself represent true participation in my own opinion.
I have never felt my abilities as a writer or public speaker has been anything more than a hobby or a diversion from the concrete task of billpaying.
I see people making careers out of it who fall far short of true analytical skills, and trade on cute phraseology and hyperbolic rice cakes.
I have never considered writing for filhy lucre and am really torn on capitalizing by itemizing the agony of our nation and trumpeting the heinous failures of the conservative mantra.
Even if I could, I wouldn’t know how.
OFG — OMFG! If you can quit …DO! Debt free no less? Dude, that rocks mightily!
I’m anything but debt free and I can’t write my way out of a paper bag. I just follow my passion… Just to be me :~}
Now about your expertise… the lineage of the carbon based fuel we burn determines our future.
If we keep introducing more terrestrial carbon then how do we re-sequester it?
Carbon resequestration. Humans’ bottom line.
Help us Oilfieldguy, you’re our only hope!
Happy New Year to Jane, Christie, Trex, Pach..and the whole firedoglake gang….
and thank you….
Your work changed America……for the better..
hizzhoner
Criticise the King’s war? Hard Labor For You AND your entire family!
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bi…..i/47/17936
Bush’s Mysterious ‘New Programs’
“The administration has not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue Fifth Column movements,” Graham, R-S.C., told Gonzales during Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on Feb. 6.
“I stand by this President’s ability, inherent to being Commander in Chief, to find out about Fifth Column movements, and I don’t think you need a warrant to do that,” Graham added, volunteering to work with the administration to draft guidelines for how best to neutralize this alleged threat.
“Senator,” a smiling Gonzales responded, “the President already said we’d be happy to listen to your ideas.”
http://www.democracyforums.com…..hp?tid=297
Note that in the DHS “Swift Luck Greens” photos, the mine facility is known as the “East Annex” – Rag Shoshone coal mine closed Thursday. August 30, 2000.
In 2000 – this was the production rate for the mine: Tons of Coal Mined in 2000: 1,209,795
It’s locate here:
Latitude: 41.92 Longitude: -106.521944
The facility was apparently acquired by the Army and DHS and has since been converted to a FORCED LABOR PRISON CAMP FOR ENTIRE FAMILIES according to the photos featured in the link provided.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C…..or_Program
Wikipedia:
Civilian Inmate Labor Program -
The Civilian Inmate Labor Program is a program of the United States Army provided by Army Regulation 210-35[1]. The regulation, first drafted in 1997 and went under a “rapid act revision” in January 2005, provides policy for the creation of labor programs and prison camps on Army installations. The labor would be provided by persons under the supervision of the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
Prison camps
The regulation also sets forth policy for the creation of prison camps on Army installations. These would be used to keep inmates of the labor programs resident on the installations.
In January 2006, Kellogg, Brown and Root reported that they had received a contract from the Department of Homeland Security to expand ICE DRO facilities “in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs.”[3] A February news article comments that the “new programs” mentioned could include the Civilian Inmate Labour Program.[4] ICE has “joint federal facilities” with the Federal Bureau of Prisons.[5]
LOOK AT THE PICTURES – READ THE DESCRIPTIONS:
http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-…..7403/posts
http://tinyurl.com/y48vxo
No one should believe a syllable that comes out of Lieberman’s mouth. Lieberman is a consummate and practiced liar. I want to see him publicly and nationally denounced and shunned. I wish him ousted from every committee he’s been allowed to chair. For these chairmanship accolades given to the pig Lieberman, we have Harry Reid to thank. For assuring Lieberman (CfL) the luxuries of a seasoned democratic senator, we have Harry Reid to thank. No one is more angry at Lieberman than the CT democrats, who did not vote for him. The REAL democrats! My advice to Harry Reid, for cushioning Lieberman’s fall, is to grow some balls!
Don’t forget that media maverick Ken Dixon of the Connecticut Post who CONSTANTLY badgered Ned about his money (of course, never once asking where Joe got his millions).
And I’m still waiting for the Connecticut Post to print my letter about Joe’s editorial in the WaPo. Unless they read the blogs, not one of his constituents knows he wrote it.
The latest Taking Stock has a look at “Surge” vs “escalation”
Surge vs Escalation
It is now decided: Lieberman is more loathsome than Cheney. He can retire now.
Exploding the not as deadly as Vietnam myth.
Vietnam was 4 times longer (13 years vs 3).
Vietnam had 4 times as many troops (500k vs 140k)
3000 x 4 x 4 = 48,000 close to the 58,000 casualties of Vietnam.
kairos in cal @ 121
Monday morning from Editor and Publisher article at Flashpoint tells of how the local newspaper forced open closed court files.
Wonder if there is information about other media modeling such behaviors.
http://www.editorandpublisher……1003526262
I want multiple impeachments to begin and all the military to come home and all the war profiteers jailed and all the stolen gains
returned and triple fines as someone suggested yesterday.
Peace to the world.
Julie @
42
What are the chances of Connecticut recalling Leiberman?