
And now tapdancing in ringletts and dimples for the coveted John Tierney Unctious Hack spot at the Times, we have...drumroll please...Roger Cohen:
Much of the left, in both Europe and the United States, is so convinced that the Iraq invasion was no more than an American grab for oil and military bases, it seems to have forgotten the myriad crimes of Saddam Hussein.
There appears to be little hope that Bush will ever abandon his with-us-or-against-us take on the post-9/11 world. Division is the president's adrenalin; he abhors shades of gray. Nor does it seem likely that the America-hating, over-the-top ranting of the left - the kind that equates Guantánamo with the Gulag and holds that the real threat to human rights comes from the White House rather than Al Qaeda - will abate during the Bush presidency.
While it's nice to have yet another Cohen opining that they were right to be wrong about Iraq, Roger C. may want to acquaint himself with the fact that Duncan Hunter's rice pilaf Gitmo rubber chicken show has been replaced by somewhat more sobering impressions of the place that render the "Solzhenitsyn dance party" fantasies a bit absurd.
The country's little Iraq problem, it seems, will disappear if only the Dirty Fucking Hippies (who were, I suppose, axiomatically wrong to be right about Iraq) would embrace the...wait for it...Euston Manifesto:
The proper concern of the left after Saddam's overthrow should have been "the battle to put in place in Iraq a democratic political order" rather than "picking through the rubble of the arguments over intervention."
The manifesto observes that: "The many left opponents of regime change in Iraq who have been unable to understand the considerations that led others on the left to support it, dishing out anathema and excommunication, more lately demanding apology or repentance, betray the democratic values they profess."
As long as Cohen is going to dust off that hoary chestnut, I think it's only fair to reprise John Holbo's analysis of it:
If you truly, sincerely want to be forward-looking in this regard: admit you were wrong – wrong in terms of how it has turned out (obviously); wrong on the intellectual merits at the time, since there were those who correctly predicted how it would turn out, and produced – in advance – arguments against the war that we now know were basically sound. This second point is admittedly more complicated, but that some people opposed your bad arguments for the war with bad arguments against the war is, indeed, a pile of rubble not to be picked over at this time. Everyone who argued for the war was wrong about what Iraq was probably like, what it would probably be like post-invasion; and wrong about the character, motives and basic competence of the Bush administration. It was pretty hard to be pro-war without being wrong about at least four of those five. So do not attempt to make out how having been wrong puts you on double super-secret morally superior probation, somehow. It isn’t so hard to admit you were wrong. People make mistakes. You don’t have to shut up and never express an opinion about politics ever again. You just have to not persevere in putting lipstick on the pig you rode in on. Because it’s a pig. (Yes, of course, we STILL have to decide about the pig now it’s here. Fair enough.)
I'm left with the rather stunning impression that Cohen believes the only thing standing in the way of a peaceful resolution to the war is the dogged insistence of those on the left who want to remind the hawks just how wrong they were in the first place. It's, you know, uncivil.
Somebody get the hook.
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You’re rocking today, Jane!
He’ll fritz right in.
And for Gawd’s sake, can everyone in the spectrum of near-right to very far-right just stop with the Euston wankifesto.
Euston, we have a problem
SteveAudio @
3
I don’t think I’ll ever call it anything else now.
how can anyone stomach what’s being done with this undeniable failure
the aggression in Iraq has laid to waste the military influence we once would take advantage of, the image of integrity we once possesed, the position as an honest broker we once enjoyed.
our ability to defend ourselves is a shadow of what it was, and the good will the entire planet had toward America, where even our enemies became American’s becuase of the attack against us in the middle of september, that good will is squandered and converted into a vile hatred not seen since the days of fascism and hitler
what the frig do these people want to happen to America?
it’s as if they see the train barrleing into their own car and they smile in glee, telling even their own family to remain seated, watch as the train of destruction approaches…
“do not think that train is going to do more damage, why, the damage it’s done is all it’s going to do, just remain calm and do not move that car from the train tracks, you’ll be fine”
WHEN DO WE START THE HEARINGS?
WHEN DO WE BRING OVERSITE?
when
Jane Hamsher @ 5
I think that is it’s name now.
Everytime I see a Riverbend post I want to print it out and mail it to the war monger of the day, if only I could figure out who that would be.
punaise @ 4
whitney euston, I wanna dance with somebody
Don’t “they” get tired of defining any opposition as “the left?” How simplistic the world has to operate for “them.” I am glad humans are not that low on the evolutionary ladder! ((Just this administration))
It’s like vampires sensing that rays of sunshine are about to pour in.
Riesz Fischer @ 16
what part of “they were lied to about the threat” do they not understand?
That could easily be answered by looking at the guest list for Faux Newz.
Jane Hamsher @ 4
Thanks! Seems somehow appropriate, as an exercise designed to make one feel better, with no real substance involved.
Ewww.
“Alas, to wear the mantle of Galileo it is not enough that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment; you must also be right.” (Robert Park)
And, dammit, we were right! Still are, and no mealy-mouthed blather makes it not so.
well, we’d never want to lack in civility now would we …
I want both Klein’s and their buddies to spend one weekend in Baghdad … not in the green zone but in just a normal neighborhood.
The manifesto observes that: “The many left opponents of regime change in Iraq who have been unable to understand the considerations that led others on the left to support it…
Ya just gotta love it– the rightards keep talking about how we on the left are unable to understand the decision to invade Iraq. Uh huh– we just don’t get it. These people really are caricatures of themselves!
The intellectual case for the war has always been thin at the very best. In fact, it’s little more than a series of bumper stickers:
Weapons of Mass Destruction
Regime change
Shock and awe
War on terror
Mission accomplished
Fighting ‘em over there
Support the troops
Generals on the ground
Let freedom reign
(purple finger)
Islamofascism
Stay the course
Last throes
Turning the corner
Freedom is on the march
(Don’t) cut and run
New way forward
Surge
By comparison, “Give peace a chance” doesn’t seem so unserious. Happy new year, firepups.
Muzzy @
10
I’m gonna use that.
these Cohen chuckleheads have quite an oeuvre:
Blood Simple
Raising McCain
Judith Miller’s Crossing
Bolton: Fink
The Scudsucker Preznit
Fargone Conclusion
The Big Lie-bowski
O Pony, Where Art Thou?
The WMDs That Weren’t There
Intolerable Cruelty
The Ladykillers
Raph Levien @ 17
you know “the left” as never been “give piece a chance”
we’ve been;
“don’t attack a country that posed no threat”
“don’t attack a country that had nothing to do with terrorism”
“don’t attack a country that was enemies with our enemy”
“don’t divert and dilute the forces and resources necessary to beat our enemy”
“when you’re going after osama bin laden don’t make saddam hussein a greater effort”
there are a bunch of others, but let me add this as my last;
“don’t make decisions that make it impossible to win”
They are stuck with “can’t win for losing.” ‘less they can find some of that success that hasn’t happened yet.
off 2 c rock # 687
g’night firedogs
It’s not that I don’t understand the arguments for invading, it’s that I never agreed that the arguments were supported by the facts cited in support.
Now these serpents come, wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross, and arguing that the others a such a threat that we must give up Liberty in favor of security. It’s always either/or for them, never rights and security.
jeffreyw @ 23
they refuse to admit, out security relies on our liberty
now to the movies for real
g’night all
punaise @
19
all mess-terpieces, punaise.
perris: you’re right, of course. I’m a Quaker and pacifist, but there are plenty of sane people who aren’t pacifists who consistently opposed this war from the beginning.
There are plenty more where those come from. It’s amazing that these simplistic phrases can get so deeply rooted in the national consciousness, and that real debate so rarely goes beyond them.
Axis of Evil
Mushroom cloud
Aluminum tubes
Coalition of the willing
Bring ‘em on
The central front (in the WoT)
As Iraqi forces stand up, then US forces will stand down
(no) global test
hey, ET - I hope your shoulder is steadily on the mend. I’ve caught glimpses of your post-op accounts.
9/11 made many panties wet and not in the good way. That damp, shiver-y feeling coupled with chafing and an ammonia smell drove “some on the left” to agree with any bugfuck stupid idea that made the shiver-y chafing go away.
As an extra bonus, after they changed their undies, the Iraq shock and awe show gave them a different kind of shiver-y feeling - the good kind - and that dampness felt good, and…fragrant.
This is the flip-side of High Broderism, the adolescent fears and delights that seem to define the DC pundittieri.
Wankers Away, my boys, wankers Aweigh.
Onward to oil-soaked shores,
You’ll sail at break of day-ay-ay-ay.
Leave your keyboards behind, take up a gun,
Put your asses where your mouths are now,
I hear Iraq’s just a barrel of fun.
Who knew the Mighty Wurlitzer needed oil?
Something squeaking?
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Fictional religious practice…based on living by the untruths that make one happy…
Here’s a good one for the list…”Plan for Victory!” Yep, Nancy and Max ought to be doing just that.
punaise @
27
thanks! shoulder appears to be doing great, though the downward pressure of the sling on the left side of my neck and upper shoulder is making my left ear go numb.
mostly lurking and reading….
OK, let’s see if I’m understanding this correctly - Cohen says that Bush is about dividing people, but that the left is against the Iraq War because they hate America?
Please, tell me what I’m missing here.
I think the proper response to this is: “When someone feels he must masturb*ate in public like this, I try not to look; at any rate, I certainly don’t encourage him with analysis and critique.”
There’s an awful lot of Kleins and Bergs and Cohens and Liebers rallying to support this war despite logic.
Must be a coincedence.
Riesz Fischer @ 16
I thought Josh Marshall pegged it nicely:
When I see that quote, I see narcissistic clowns like Peter Beinart, Joe Lieberman, Jeff Jarvis, Roger L. Simon, and Michael Totten, clear as day.
For them and the Euston wankifesters, it’s been a double-fisted circle jerk — not only do they get to dress up in their homemade Captain Freedom costumes, they get to play Captain Bipartisan, too (“I love freedom so much that I’ll support a Republican war!”).
In reality, they’ve been about as serious as a bunch of kids playing fort in their backyards.
I haven’t heard a rational Republican arguement since the party was taken over by liars and fear babies.
I just want to line them all up and torture them with George Clinton.
The Electric Spanking of War Babies
LindaR @ 33
Are we sure this isn’t one of Joe Klein’s alternate identities? You’re right about the masturbation thing, which made me think of Mr. Klein …
Hey, those Euston guys think that by fantasizing about awesome social democrats like themselves cheerleading US & UK intervention, things will get better for those suffering under enemy regimes.
Would my “El Cid Manifesto” be even more moral than theirs if I demand that the “left” stop objecting to time travel?
After all, if only the left would stop opposing time travel, then we could spare the world from having suffered World War II and the Holocaust.
Why won’t the leftists who haven’t signed on to the “El Cid Manifesto” oppose Hitler and the Holocaust?
Swopa:
Any communication from Billmon? Any idea how he’s doing?
I love America! It’s Bush and his Cabal I hate!
Unless we’re very careful, Democrats (and the left) will get blamed for losing this stupid, illegal war. Clearly it’s lost, and we need the world to rescue the BoyKing from his idiocy. Whether the GOP brand will soak in the IraqWar stink depends entirely on National Democrats, who’ve been known in the past to allow themselves to be blamed for ending stupid wars.
What I really don’t understand is why Old Lord McCain, RGJoe, the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation and anyone with the last name of O’Beirne are allowed to still have an opinion about this war. They’ve all been wrong from the beginning, they’re wrong today, and when they wake up tomorrow morning, they’ll be wrong about it. Why are they opining? Who thinks their opinion has value? Not the 88% of the American people who don’t want more troops sent, that’s for sure. Does the 12% who want more troops sent to Iraq live entirely inside the Washington Beltway?
… oh, and:
Troops
Home
NOW
Just another Israel Firster putting a dress and a pretty bow on their pig.
Democracy for Iraq. Riiiiiiiight.
Urban Pirate @
34
Urban Pirate,
Your point appears either vague or distasteful. Do you mind clarifying?
SusanD @ 40
So true. Today in Cheney’s speech about Ford, he talked about the dark days when Ford was president. It was the people’s unhappiness with Nixon’s criminality that Cheney called the darkness! This cabal doesn’t even know what America is.
This band of whiners is about to drop their lipstick and take up mouth to mouth resuscitation. It’s going to get real ugly folks.
SusanD @ 40
We liberals ALL love America! We’re trying as hard as we can to rescue our beloved country from these hateful oligarchs and usurpers. It may not be too late, but we must continue to love America as hard as we possibly can. They sure don’t!!
You’re going to need more than a hook to get that bozo off the stage.
Meanwhile, here’s The Truth.
I don’t love America at all.
TeddySanFran @ 41
You are so right. Democrats have to start saying “The war is already lost. This is now a salvage operation.”
every time
in every interview
as the beginning of every answer to every question about “What is the Democrats’ plan?”
One of the best Bushisms I have heard lately was “We’re not succeeding as rapidly as we would like to be succeeding, but…”
Translation: “We’re losing.”
What’s to love about a nation founded on wholesale genocide?
Urban Pirate @ 34
Thrasyboulos @ 42
ok …. where is this going guys?
David Ehrenstein @ 51
Name one that isn’t, somewhere in its past.
The ideal upon which America is founded, and seldom lived up to, is worth loving, protecting and holding up to the funhouse mirror reality that is America as it is.
The truly anazing thing about our country is the self-knowledge of its founders as they fell short of the ideals they propounded.
I love America for its potential, which we’re all responsible for bringing about.
TeddySanFran @
41
Teddy On Fire.
Ed*ard Teller @ 43
Well, although I am loathe to say it out loud, I am constantly surprised (disturbed?) by how many Jews are supportive of the war despite all logic. It’s like certain folks who may be otherwise firmly footed in reality are blinded by this, and unflinchingly, illogically supportive.
Keep in mind, I live in New York. I hope none of my comments are taken out of character. That being said, this war has a large “Isreal first” contingent of supporters. They’re about the only ones left. At this point, they make me sick
Here’s where it’s going.
http://tinyurl.com/y353xo
Liberal and left wing political commentators, despite all the evidence to the contrary, continually insist that America’s foreign policies are concerned with the interests of its energy corporations. This fantasy is also promoted by the Jewish state’s political agents throughout the western world who seek to provide a smokescreen for the power of America’s Jewish elite which implements foreign policies boosting the interests of the Jewish state rather than America. It is not just a coincidence that so many of the liberal and left wing commentators promoting this fantasy are Jewish. The belief that America is pursuing an oil based foreign policy is an illusion conjured up by neo-liberals and neo-lefties who refuse to confront the reality of Jewish power in America and around the world.
And here….
http://tinyurl.com/y9f8fk
lo @
52
People here certainly aren’t adverse to valid criticism of Israeli policies and how those policies are defended in American politics, but these two comments appear to be hastily written or below the dignity of fdl….
Sorry to be so undignified. By the way…
Blankfort
http://tinyurl.com/y9f8fk
When Israel invaded Lebanon. Bush wanted sanctions against it, as well. This is according to Moshe Arens, the Israeli Foreign Minister, writing in a book about this. When Israel had its pilots sitting in the planes, waiting for the co-ordinates to go attack Iraq in ‘91, after some Scuds had landed in Israel, Bush wouldn’t give them to them. They hate this guy.
And then when Shamir sent over as an emissary, to ask for ten billion dollars in loan guarantees, Bush said no He said, what we’ll do, we’ll wait 120 days, but first I want certain agreements. Stop settlement building and agree to settle no Russians in the settlements that are there, and wait 120 days and see what happens. And Shamir went to Congress, and Daniel Inouye, who I mentioned before, said to Moshe Arens, “Where’s my yamulka? This is war.” This is an American, US Senator from Hawaii, speaking.
When 240 senators and congressmen wrote a letter to Bush, telling him to pass the loan guarantees for Israel, at a time when America’s economic situation was terrible, Bush realized that if he vetoed the legislation, he’d be overridden. So what did he do? When a thousand Jewish lobbyists were on Capitol Hill, Bush went on national television, and he said there are a thousand lobbyists up here “against little old me. But I have to do the right thing.” And he says, US boys are over in Iraq protecting Israel and every Israeli man, woman and child gets so much money from the American taxpayer. No one’s ever done that before. What were the polls the next day? Eighty-five percent of the people supported Bush. A month-and-a-half, two months later, only 44% of the American public supported aid to Israel, while 70% supported aid to the former Soviet Union, and 75% to Poland. …………..
In fact, the Lobby had to retreat, because they realized the American public was not going to go for it. Senator Barbara McCloskey, a good liberal Democrat, was speaking to a group of Jewish lobbyists, when she’s handed a piece of paper, and according to the Washington Jewish Week, her face “went ashen.”
She said, “I’ve just been informed that the President is taking the issue of the loan guarantees to the American people. The American people!?! The last people that the Lobby wants to have concerned with anything about Israel. If you want to put it on the basis of nationalism, we’re talking about a nest of traitors. We’re talking about a fifth column in the classic sense. You have Israel . . . it’s Israel first. These people care nothing about the United States, or they do secondarily to Israel’s interest or what they perceive as Israel’s interests . . . there’s a lot of Israelis who don’t agree with that . . . but they are looking for a powerful Israel because its power gives them power as well.
This conversation has taken on an ugly tone.
SteveAudio @ 39
I haven’t heard anything. I expect that he’s fine, although Saddam’s hanging might be giving him some blogging withdrawal symptoms.
neurophius @ 59
Indeed it has.
Thrasyboulas and Urban Pirate, kindly take your racism and/or conspiracy theories elsewhere.
neurophius @ 60
Yah. I’m distancing myself from the long comment that precedes this, and withdrawing my comments completely.
Urban Pirate @ 55
Thanks for your response. I’m afraid you’re wrong, even about greater NYC. The preponderance of American Jews are Democrats and a majority of those want rational peace in Palestine/israel as well as the rest of the Middle East. Many of the most active and eloquent among American peace activists are Jewish. More than a few of them comment here at fdl. Some Jews critical of Israeli policies are wary of making public statements.
I’m sure three thousand American dead and six hundred thousand Iraqi dead are so worried about…you know…tone and dignity on a blog.
I guess we should get our priorities straight and keep certain things unsaid. For the sake of our dignity, if nothing else.
Thrasyboulos @ 64
Oh, thanks — I forgot that you were the only one who knows how many people died in this war.
When you take your racism and/or conspiracy theories elsewhere, don’t forget to take your self-righteousness, too.
Thrasyboulos @ 64
Your bigoted nonsense isn’t helping them, either.
Thrasyboulos @
64
Not too surprised you missed my point. I asked for clarification and all you’ve come back with is more rudeness and a set of talking points delivered like you’re some kind of a whatreallyhappened.com wannabe…
Edward Teller,
I’d like to leave the topic, as it always blows up or gets taken incorrectly, but want to say that I do understand that most Jews vote democratic. Working for Ned we had 80% voting Ned over Joe.
I am not impugning Jews, or Israel, or Kleins or any group. However, it is blindness to think there is not an “israel first” segment who are a large portion of who instigated this fiasco and who continue to defend it.
you want poor taste?
“Sell It With Sizzle”
JonBenet Rumsfeld
Swopa @ 62
Swopa, I respect you and your writing a lot, so it is pretty painful to get called out by you, but I am not racist or conspiratorial. I’m simply making an (unpopular?) observation.
Urban Pirate @ 70
My comment overlapped your distancing yourself from Thrasyboulas and your equally welcome restatement of your opinion.
It’s hard to look at how you expressed it @ 34 as anything but offensive.
Pach’s offering Late Night upstairs.
What this continuing rehash of the Cohens, et al, constitutes is a rather thinly-disguised attempt to cow the crowd that was right all along into silencing themselves about upcoming decisions which will demonstrably make things worse.
8 PM PST 30 Dec. 2006
GERALD FORD
Washington Honors A President
Ford’s Casket Arrives at US Capitol ABC News
all 1,548 news articles
JAMES BROWN
Fans bid joyous farewell to Godfather of Soul
all 2,401 news articles
SADDAM HUSSEIN
Saddam Hussein executed
all 2,266 news articles
JAMES BROWN IS STILL AHEAD IN THE SWEEPSTAKES OF POSTERITY
Leave your memoirs at http://www.silencedmajority.blogs.com
Bush took his time paying respects to Ford, who questioned his judgement about the war but only posthumously. He continued to clear brush on the ranch (when not in the tornado shelter) while waiting for news about the execution of his nemesis, Saddam. Only James Brown had three huge funerals, with Al Sharpton, MC Hammer etc etc. History will reveal more positivity about him - of the 3 - SAY IT LOUD!
I’m about to lose my electricity, so I hope I can get this through first (big ice storm in NE tonight).
Can we keep our tempers and a civil tongue? Both sides have a point. We’ve been complaining about the Isreali lobby having too much say in our foreign policy for a long time now, how come it’s suddenly fightin’ words?
I don’t know Thrasyboulas (no offense, sounds like a bad baterial infection) but Urban Pirate isn’t an anti-semite.
montag @
73
good point.
Mommybrain @ 75
U.P. got off on the wrong foot, but has clarified himself.
There is a significant Israel-first element in many war supporters, but their sense of what’s best for Israel is as flawed as other hawks’ view of what’s best for America. And it’s also worth noting that some of them aren’t Jewish.
BTW, I agree that the Israeli lobby has too much influence over U.S. foreign policy. But I think the PNAC fantasy that led to the war had more to do with broader geopolitical issues than just Israel.
oregondave @ 14
Wow, another Bob Park fan!
Sorry I stirred up a hornet’s nest.
Too touchy a subject to be flippant or cryptic.
look, Thrasyboulas and Urban Pirate,
I’ve probably brought the subject of Israeli apertheid and AIPAC influence up here more than any other commenter. And I’ve been pushy at times. But for you to describe a real problem in the immature, inaccurate and racist way you did only serves to take the dialogue on those subjects here backward.
That’s only part of why I’m pissed at you, though. I could feel the life drain out of this thread when I read your comments. If you don’t appreciate fdl as a living, breathing, nurturing community, you might feel more comfortable elsewhere.
punaise @ 69
oh, now that’s undignified.
TeddySanFran @ 81
nice comment number, as well.
The degree to which pro-Israel sentiments affect US foreign policy, and whether that effect is good or bad are difficult subjects, but important. Speaking only for myself, I hope all who commented here will stay and continue to help us sort this out — both the merits, and how to talk about it. I think that’s consistent with notions of fdl as “a living, breathing, nurturing community.”
Poor taste would be the all-you-can-eat Italian joint my in-laws dragged me to last night. Ptooey!
Mommybrain @ 84
hey, how’s the snow? are you getting outta there tomorrow or what?
Scarecrow @ 83
Do I detect another thoughtful post from you-know-who coming? I can’t think of anyone better to write it.
Mommybrain @
86
Totally agreed…and I can’t think of anyone better to write about “how to talk about it”.
TeddySanFran @ 85
Lettuce spray, TSF. It’s icy tonight, more snow coming, so they say; either that or it will be sunny. Sounds like Californy predictors. Woke up to cars in the ditch outside the house, two inches of ice on all the tree branches. The airport we fly out of is teensy and I don’t do teensy very well. I gotta find me some valium…
[Mod Note; you’re a funny one tonight]
What Scarecrow said, 83.
Israel/AIPAC is probably the most toxic subject in the blogosphere, the one every blogger who moderates a comment thread dreads. My wish for the new year is that we find a way to discuss it without shooting everyone in the building.
[Jane, dear, trigger words.]
Neocons get a free pass because the left likes to hide behind its finger about their motives. Anyway, I love this blog, and I know I have rather harsh views, so I withdraw back to lurkdom, for now.
What got my goat is the disingenuousnes of Cohen in setting up a straw man, oil, then shooting it down with blather about democracy, etc. Slime.
jane hamsher @ 89
I’ve always believed that Israel has the same problem that the US does–it’s been dominated by right-wing governments for far too long. The amount of debate in Israel about precisely this topic receives far more attention there than it does here–and there are complicated reasons for that.
Y’know, I have an acquaintance who was born in Israel, served in the IDF, etc., and is now, in her later years, looking seriously at the Palestinian issue and the revisionist history that she was subjected to in growing up in Israel–and not liking what she’s found. She came to it from a much more basic reason, to her, than just international politics. Her more fundamental concern was women’s rights. (!)
As Wallace Stevens said, “there are at least thirteen ways of looking at a blackbird.” In this country, we’re allowed only one….
jane hamsher @
89
It really is hard. I’ve expressed impatience here on this in ways similar to how it got out of control in this thread. Minus the racism. Not for a while, but - sorry. The most courageous reporter/blogger on the issue Jane brings out right here is Phil Weiss, who writes for The Nation and The New York Observer. A look at his blog shows every aspect of what Jane so accurately describes as “comment thread dread.”
http://mondoweiss.observer.com/
But Weiss usually writes his essay, then stays aloof as the comment thread takes on a life of its own.
[Mod Note; Does that mean we could take the night off?]
mod - ROFLCUPD (rolling on the floor laughing coughing up Peking Duck)
On a week when there is nothing original that can be said, but the deadline is approaching, sometimes the only thing one can do is hit that button on the Big Mouth Billy Bass and hope to produce some belly laughs.
All this “the left” and “leftists” crap is shorthand for: “Hey, I don’t like it any more than you do, but AT LEAST I’m not identified as a _______” - - - - From there the posibilities are endless.
Give up on even the argument that Iraq was a good idea (which he did as I recall), and with that example of poor analytical judgement (ie, uh-oh, I hope they don’t ALL figure out that I’m just splattering a quota-worth of words onto a computer screen for money…I hope they don’t ALL realize that I’m no more smarter than any of the people reading my work), he’s left in the same spot as hundreds of other right-wingers who pay their bills off of babble, and really need to hang on to the gig as well as the notion of self-worth that they’ve come to believe only stems from “understanding what’s REALLY going on”
They’re bankrupt at this point, because their readers aren’t looking for the truth…that’s not why they patronize political media in the first place…no, they want to be given a pat on the back for hanging in there, and the only way to provide that service to the customer while retaining one’s dignity is to:
A. Admit the situation is bad
B. Say it’s not as bad as the opposition tells it
C. Chastise the opposition for overdoing it with their criticism
D. Eventually start blaming the opposition entirely for what is wrong
I’d imagine that if you looked across the spectrum of right-wing writers, you’d find this dynamic all over the place. Some will blame Bush, but never moreso than they blame you and I…who of course had nothing to do with any of it.
Nice pull and breakdown! This crap coming my way in tomorrow’s paper should make for good kindling…as long as it’s not below Rich’s column!
Ed*ard Teller @
63
No time like the present as I see it! The immediate anti-semitism response you’ll get from right-wingers in the media now has a lot to do with the fact that Israel buys heavy from our mass-murder catalog of products year after year, and if “defending themselves” means ka-ching, then anyone who criticizes is being anti-semitic…it works out well for our defense industry.
The daily events in Gaza (if the world actually got to find out what they were) would tell a good story about what Israel does to bring on the hatred of others with their own actions. I suspect their government, like ours, is fully infiltrated by the mass-murder industry, and to them it’s as simple as Fraggles eating Doozer Sticks…if they don’t, then the construction will simply pile up so high, all the Doozers will have no choice but to leave…
And so, the stockpiles of munitions MUST BE USED, or else…hmmm
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