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		<title>By: rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=159124&quot;&gt;http://www.surfingtheapocalyps.....ead=159124&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ZAPATA OIL LINKS BUSH SR ISRAELI SNIPERS KILLING TROOPS &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;16 November 2006&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In Response To: ISRAELI SNIPERS KILLING US TROOPS IN IRAQ? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Add these quotes (below) to the info from the documentary about&lt;br /&gt;
JFK George Bush Sr C.I.A. CIA Link Conspiracy&lt;br /&gt;
at&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9137354720737304741&amp;q=Jesuit&quot;&gt;http://video.google.com/videop.....p;q=Jesuit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(not quite 2/3 way through the video)&lt;br /&gt;
and you come to a chilling conclusion. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(from that documentary)&lt;br /&gt;
In the JFK documentary is info that “in 1959, the year head of CIA Allen Dulles started planning the invasion of Cuba, Bush began his independent business carreer as sole owner of Zapata Offshore Oil at a place about 30 miles from Cuba. … operation Mongoose…operation 40…the assassinations of operation 40 were supervised by E.Howard Hunt &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(from freedomcrowsnest) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) “originating not from Iran, but come from Zapata Engineering” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) “Zapata Engineering, an offshoot of Zapata Oil with offices in North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3) “Zapata Engineering has hired these Israeli Mossad-types into Iraq for the purposes of alleged counter-insurgency” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your link led me to&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49204&quot;&gt;http://www.freedomcrowsnest.or.....hp?t=49204&lt;/a&gt; …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>ZAPATA OIL LINKS BUSH SR ISRAELI SNIPERS KILLING TROOPS </p>
<p>16 November 2006</p>
<p>In Response To: ISRAELI SNIPERS KILLING US TROOPS IN IRAQ? </p>
<p>Add these quotes (below) to the info from the documentary about<br />
JFK George Bush Sr C.I.A. CIA Link Conspiracy<br />
at<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9137354720737304741&amp;q=Jesuit">http://video.google.com/videop&#8230;..p;q=Jesuit</a><br />
(not quite 2/3 way through the video)<br />
and you come to a chilling conclusion. </p>
<p>(from that documentary)<br />
In the JFK documentary is info that “in 1959, the year head of CIA Allen Dulles started planning the invasion of Cuba, Bush began his independent business carreer as sole owner of Zapata Offshore Oil at a place about 30 miles from Cuba. … operation Mongoose…operation 40…the assassinations of operation 40 were supervised by E.Howard Hunt </p>
<p>(from freedomcrowsnest) </p>
<p>1) “originating not from Iran, but come from Zapata Engineering” </p>
<p>2) “Zapata Engineering, an offshoot of Zapata Oil with offices in North Carolina, Hawaii and Tel Aviv” </p>
<p>3) “Zapata Engineering has hired these Israeli Mossad-types into Iraq for the purposes of alleged counter-insurgency” </p>
<p>Your link led me to<br />
<a href="http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49204">http://www.freedomcrowsnest.or&#8230;..hp?t=49204</a> …</p>
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		<title>By: rumi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/28/whos-provoking-whom/#comment-433647</link>
		<dc:creator>rumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT but I’m pulling a John Edwards bandwagon. This is the first political candidate that I have actually positively supported in my entire life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe we all can make a difference by working together.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The site link if anyone is interested.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://johnedwards.com/&quot;&gt;Tomorrow begins today.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT but I’m pulling a John Edwards bandwagon. This is the first political candidate that I have actually positively supported in my entire life.</p>
<p>I believe we all can make a difference by working together.</p>
<p>The site link if anyone is interested.</p>
<p><a href="http://johnedwards.com/">Tomorrow begins today.</a></p>
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		<title>By: mandrake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/28/whos-provoking-whom/#comment-433635</link>
		<dc:creator>mandrake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-433618&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Adie @ 120 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;EPU’d downstairs &amp; probably here too, but pertinent?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mandrake&lt;/em&gt; @ 62&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    One other thing we keeping hearing that will NOT work in our favor, to paraphrase: Ford helped the nation heal by pardoning Nixon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Hear that, future President?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apologies for rant - but this little game of “chicken” they’re playing will, without question imo, have &lt;em&gt;enormous&lt;/em&gt; consequences if they are not stopped. There is only one fragile world involved here, trying to keep from going !BLOOOEY! If “we” don’t tackle some/all of these things, the world’s children will have no.legacy.at.all…. Z.E.R.O.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;go ahead. tell me i’m wrong. please.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;maybe I’ve had too much coffee.&lt;br /&gt;
maybe not enough. *shudder*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My hope is that, although the Dems have said “no” to impeachment, the revelations from the upcoming investigations will give momentum to the public outcry for impeachment, more and more community petitions for impeachment flowing in the door.  Then, the Dems can say, “Look, we tried to avoid impeachment because we thought it was in the best interest of the country, but this is what the people want, they’re clamoring for it, so we’re gonna give it to them.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That way they can look all noble and stuff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sure I’m being naive.  I imagine Cristy can contribute to the legalities issues in ways that I can’t touch on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-433618"><em>Adie @ 120 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>EPU’d downstairs &amp; probably here too, but pertinent?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Mandrake</em> @ 62</p>
<p>    One other thing we keeping hearing that will NOT work in our favor, to paraphrase: Ford helped the nation heal by pardoning Nixon.</p>
<p>    Hear that, future President?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Apologies for rant &#8211; but this little game of “chicken” they’re playing will, without question imo, have <em>enormous</em> consequences if they are not stopped. There is only one fragile world involved here, trying to keep from going !BLOOOEY! If “we” don’t tackle some/all of these things, the world’s children will have no.legacy.at.all…. Z.E.R.O.</p>
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<p>go ahead. tell me i’m wrong. please.</p>
<p>maybe I’ve had too much coffee.<br />
maybe not enough. *shudder*</p>
<p>My hope is that, although the Dems have said “no” to impeachment, the revelations from the upcoming investigations will give momentum to the public outcry for impeachment, more and more community petitions for impeachment flowing in the door.  Then, the Dems can say, “Look, we tried to avoid impeachment because we thought it was in the best interest of the country, but this is what the people want, they’re clamoring for it, so we’re gonna give it to them.”</p>
<p>That way they can look all noble and stuff.</p>
<p>I’m sure I’m being naive.  I imagine Cristy can contribute to the legalities issues in ways that I can’t touch on.</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/28/whos-provoking-whom/#comment-433621</link>
		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK Kiddo @ 48,&lt;br /&gt;
I read your post this way: &lt;em&gt;the White House says it’s a “non-delusional” gathering. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I thought, Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
Must get these glasses checked, although I kind of like the way that sounds.  They’re wrong but defensive about it.  ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Kiddo @ 48,<br />
I read your post this way: <em>the White House says it’s a “non-delusional” gathering. </em></p>
<p>And I thought, Hmm.<br />
Must get these glasses checked, although I kind of like the way that sounds.  They’re wrong but defensive about it.  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/28/whos-provoking-whom/#comment-433618</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EPU’d downstairs &amp; probably here too, but pertinent?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mandrake&lt;/em&gt; @ 62&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    One other thing we keeping hearing that will NOT work in our favor, to paraphrase: Ford helped the nation heal by pardoning Nixon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Hear that, future President?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BUT, Nixon HAD ALREADY RESIGNED, &amp; his powerbase was NIL - in shambles &amp;/or jail, no?!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;somehow, that makes a HEEEUUUUGE difference to me in re strategery. Jr. &amp; that faceshooterfella MUST be removed from office, ASAP! append the “usual” imho, ianal, ymmv, ad lib. i’ll just sit here &amp; stew over the consequences if it’s not done, &amp; hold up looming world war, rampant poverty, global warming, etc. etc. etc. as justification for being so silly. You think jr &amp; bigthyme have any intention of tackling those frivolous lil’ sidelights while amassing their $legacy$?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apologies for rant - but this little game of “chicken” they’re playing will, without question imo, have &lt;em&gt;enormous&lt;/em&gt; consequences if they are not stopped. There is only one fragile world involved here, trying to keep from going !BLOOOEY! If “we” don’t tackle some/all of these things, the world’s children will have no.legacy.at.all…. Z.E.R.O.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;go ahead. tell me i’m wrong. please.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;maybe I’ve had too much coffee.&lt;br /&gt;
maybe not enough. *shudder*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EPU’d downstairs &amp; probably here too, but pertinent?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Mandrake</em> @ 62</p>
<p>    One other thing we keeping hearing that will NOT work in our favor, to paraphrase: Ford helped the nation heal by pardoning Nixon.</p>
<p>    Hear that, future President?</p>
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<p>BUT, Nixon HAD ALREADY RESIGNED, &amp; his powerbase was NIL &#8211; in shambles &amp;/or jail, no?!</p>
<p>somehow, that makes a HEEEUUUUGE difference to me in re strategery. Jr. &amp; that faceshooterfella MUST be removed from office, ASAP! append the “usual” imho, ianal, ymmv, ad lib. i’ll just sit here &amp; stew over the consequences if it’s not done, &amp; hold up looming world war, rampant poverty, global warming, etc. etc. etc. as justification for being so silly. You think jr &amp; bigthyme have any intention of tackling those frivolous lil’ sidelights while amassing their $legacy$?</p>
<p>Apologies for rant &#8211; but this little game of “chicken” they’re playing will, without question imo, have <em>enormous</em> consequences if they are not stopped. There is only one fragile world involved here, trying to keep from going !BLOOOEY! If “we” don’t tackle some/all of these things, the world’s children will have no.legacy.at.all…. Z.E.R.O.</p>
<p>go ahead. tell me i’m wrong. please.</p>
<p>maybe I’ve had too much coffee.<br />
maybe not enough. *shudder*</p>
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		<title>By: Blub</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/28/whos-provoking-whom/#comment-433613</link>
		<dc:creator>Blub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I figure there’s a good chance he’ll wait until SOTU to announce his new way forward.. ‘course the subpeonas should start landing on desks at the WH ’bout that time, so maybe we’ll get lucky and his lawyers will advise him to take the fifth for the SOTU.. OK, I’m kidding, but still…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-433607&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;EvilDrPuma @ 115 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-433600&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Blub @ 111&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe he’ll do us a favor and announce that he’s going to forego the State of the Union address this year…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He may as well. We all know he’s not going to stand there and say he’s fucked up big time, so what’s the point? Yeah, it’s constitutionally mandated, but the Constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figure there’s a good chance he’ll wait until SOTU to announce his new way forward.. ‘course the subpeonas should start landing on desks at the WH ’bout that time, so maybe we’ll get lucky and his lawyers will advise him to take the fifth for the SOTU.. OK, I’m kidding, but still…</p>
<p><a href="#comment-433607"><em>EvilDrPuma @ 115 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-433600"><em>Blub @ 111</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe he’ll do us a favor and announce that he’s going to forego the State of the Union address this year…
</p>
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<p>He may as well. We all know he’s not going to stand there and say he’s fucked up big time, so what’s the point? Yeah, it’s constitutionally mandated, but the Constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/12/28/whos-provoking-whom/#comment-433612</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-433610&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;OldCoastie @ 117&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-433604&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jay @ 113&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here’s a thought, maybe we should explore the power of the laugh.. no, this isn’t another feel good comment, I mean the power of the laught to deflate the pompous. Imagine if the WH pressroom erupted into laughs when Tony the Sno-job started pontificating some point. Imagine the look on his powdered face when he realized that he’s totally lost the audience. Let’s take it a step further and imagine the idiot-child at the next state of the union speech. “We are just about to turn the corner in Iraq”.. cue the laughs and watch the little puke screw himself into the ceiling. Now that would be something to laugh at.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;with a whole lotta comments like, “yer kiddin’! right?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It works for me. It might not change anything, but the bastards couldn’t ignore the fact that we’re on to them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-433610"><em>OldCoastie @ 117</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-433604"><em>Jay @ 113</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Here’s a thought, maybe we should explore the power of the laugh.. no, this isn’t another feel good comment, I mean the power of the laught to deflate the pompous. Imagine if the WH pressroom erupted into laughs when Tony the Sno-job started pontificating some point. Imagine the look on his powdered face when he realized that he’s totally lost the audience. Let’s take it a step further and imagine the idiot-child at the next state of the union speech. “We are just about to turn the corner in Iraq”.. cue the laughs and watch the little puke screw himself into the ceiling. Now that would be something to laugh at.</p>
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<p>with a whole lotta comments like, “yer kiddin’! right?”</p>
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<p>It works for me. It might not change anything, but the bastards couldn’t ignore the fact that we’re on to them.</p>
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		<title>By: OldCoastie</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldCoastie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-433604&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jay @ 113&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here’s a thought, maybe we should explore the power of the laugh.. no, this isn’t another feel good comment, I mean the power of the laught to deflate the pompous. Imagine if the WH pressroom erupted into laughs when Tony the Sno-job started pontificating some point. Imagine the look on his powdered face when he realized that he’s totally lost the audience. Let’s take it a step further and imagine the idiot-child at the next state of the union speech. “We are just about to turn the corner in Iraq”.. cue the laughs and watch the little puke screw himself into the ceiling. Now that would be something to laugh at.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;with a whole lotta comments like, “yer kiddin’! right?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-433604"><em>Jay @ 113</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Here’s a thought, maybe we should explore the power of the laugh.. no, this isn’t another feel good comment, I mean the power of the laught to deflate the pompous. Imagine if the WH pressroom erupted into laughs when Tony the Sno-job started pontificating some point. Imagine the look on his powdered face when he realized that he’s totally lost the audience. Let’s take it a step further and imagine the idiot-child at the next state of the union speech. “We are just about to turn the corner in Iraq”.. cue the laughs and watch the little puke screw himself into the ceiling. Now that would be something to laugh at.</p>
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<p>with a whole lotta comments like, “yer kiddin’! right?”</p>
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		<title>By: Scarecrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gang — Christy has a new thread upstairs.  Thanks for your comments here.  I’m off to work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gang — Christy has a new thread upstairs.  Thanks for your comments here.  I’m off to work.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-433600&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Blub @ 111&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe he’ll do us a favor and announce that he’s going to forego the State of the Union address this year…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He may as well. We all know he’s not going to stand there and say he’s fucked up big time, so what’s the point? Yeah, it’s constitutionally mandated, but the Constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-433600"><em>Blub @ 111</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe he’ll do us a favor and announce that he’s going to forego the State of the Union address this year…
</p>
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<p>He may as well. We all know he’s not going to stand there and say he’s fucked up big time, so what’s the point? Yeah, it’s constitutionally mandated, but the Constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper.</p>
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